does he hate women? because hes rough in all his work that ive seen,
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Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 10:17AM
And, unfortunately, he's the flavor of the month again. His scenes are all about him- he spends every second trying to make you forget that there's a female in the scene.
Disagree, I think his scenes are usually of a high standard. I love rough, intense scenes, and it seems some of the girls at least like this too. The scene with Asa in Insatiable 2 is amazing.
If he spent as much time actually fucking the chick instead of slapping her, spitting on her, and putting his foot on her face, then they'd be worth watching. Edited by - SaraJayFan on 10/10/2011 11:44:28 AM
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People who aren't into that stuff usually try to paint it as abuse and overlook the fact that a lot of women really dig being submissive, and everything that comes with it. Ask Asa Akira or Kristina Rose whether they enjoy working with Nacho. I can see why it wouldn't be a lot of people's cup of tea, and if it's not that's fine, just avoid his scenes, but a lot of girls are into it and I think it makes for a great scene when they are.
^In return people that are into it can't see that women accept to do a lot of stuff on film they would never allow in their personal life simply to earn a living. If you like Nacho's stuff then you won't believe that he's mysoginistic toward the women he works with. I like watching rough play but I draw the line at repeated face slapping, breast slapping, spitting hard chocking and the old foot in the face. His on screen antics are in similar to a lot of stuff being produced by Rocco these days but Nacho takes it a a much higher degree. I assume people are into it because people ares till buying it.
Nothing is wrong with him. I fuck girls the same way and they all have enjoyed it, with the exception of 2. I think maybe something is wrong with you for thinking something is wrong with him.
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Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 2:08PM
It has seemed like every Star Crossed thread in the last couple of months has had an "I'm working with Nacho!" post -- which to me translates to "I won't be watching much porn a few weeks/months from now." To me, the guy is like if you took Rocco, and stripped away all the charm and charisma and good looks that interestingly juxtapose with, and allow him to get away with, his animalistic side -- leaving just a crude, amped-up jerk. With very limited exceptions (e.g., the scene in one of the Fashionistas movies with Melissa Lauren, which was mostly interesting because of Melissa's "why don't you see if you can beat me to death? I haven't tried that this week" attitude), it's not anything I'm interested in watching.
People who are bitching about Nacho have obviously never been with a woman who likes to fuck like this and i'm guessing wouldn't know what to do if they did. Lots have probably even been with a woman who would have liked to be fucked like this but didn't want to say in fear of being labelled wierd.And i guess they would have been right to think that reading some of the comments here. Also,unless you have proof that the woman are not enjoying it you can't just assume.If your gonna assume anything you could assume the woman in porn are even more likely to enjoy it as there alot more open about there sexuality.
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Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 3:53PM
Closeted Max Hardcore fans... gotta love 'em. Or maybe not.
^Not a Max Hardcore fan no. How about actually answering the points if you disagree rather than trolling? You're basically saying pornstars are lying.. because as said many have said they enjoy working with Nacho. So like.. what's the deal? Again if you don't like it cool, but don't tell other people what they should like, and don't say girls don't like it when they've stated that they do...
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Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 4:07PM
Funny how you're the one who is the most blatantly guilty of everything you're whining about. Read my posts again and you'll find that it's you who is trying to impose his opinions and preferences upon me and everyone else who disagrees with you. Then again, you're obviously just too damned ignorant to realize it. Dangle, knuckle dragger.
I'm saying "people can like what they want" yet you seem to be insinuating some kind of abuse and calling anyone who likes Nacho scenes "closeted Max Hardcore fans". I never crticised anybody's taste in porn. I even said it's not everybody's cup of tea. You however are criticising. If you're going to flame you might want to make sure you're right first. Done with this debate though since arguing with you seems pointless at best. Good day. Edited by - reddevil87 on 10/10/2011 4:17:34 PM
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Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 4:21PM
I can see some, even many, not being into Nacho's style but if the performers say they like working with him, and considering Kristina and Asa's previous scenes with other rough performers, I don't see any reason to disbelieve them. I do agree that Nacho doesn't bring the charisma of Rocco at his peak or Manuel to his rough scenes though.
i think its pretty rude to talk about people like this. you dont know nacho, you dont even know the women who work with him. i think the rules apply to male performers just as much as the females... this is not a place to talk shit about people :(
^Also although I don't usually buy all that a pornstar say while active (IE Katja Kassin saying that she liked anal very much and then she quit and said she don't liked it at all and that she never do it in real life) I just remember that Bobbi Starr said he likes him and not only worked with him 4 times lately but also she HIRED him for her site (scene put into Shut up and Fuck) then for Nacho vs Live Gonzo and again for kink and again for a Spanish site. And I don't know if Nacho was in her Bound Gangbang scene too. I tend to believe that if she didn't want to work with him could easily refuse to. She knew him very well as she already worked with him in Made in Brazil 3 years ago She said at the beginning of Shut up and Fuck (You were amazing in there)she has chemistry with him and actually she managed actively to work (she said get fucked) with him and apparently it worked I also am aware that you yourself worked with him in a Pornstar Punishment scene , I'm not a member but I think it was no different than those of Bobbi
From my experience, lots of women enjoy being dominated in bed, however, I don't know of any that enjoy being degraded to the point of being spit on, slapped in the face repeatedly and having a foot jammed on their face... not to say they don't exist but quite uncommon. And sorry, porn actresses will do many things on camera that they don't enjoy in their personal life - that's a fact.
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Posted - Oct 10 2011 : 8:31PM
nacho is like a waaaaay over the top brandon iron......he bangs hard but does all this other shit that just makes u wanna cut the scene off especially when he makes females suck his toes and shit smh just makes the scene a thumbs down for me after that....but of course he'll b praised like ass punching manuel as long as he films with elegant Edited by - kingdarius on 10/10/2011 8:31:45 PM
I don't have a problem with the general rough sex if she is into it. And make no mistake, I am not claiming these women aren't. But I tend to draw the line at projectile spitting or the woman getting her face stepped on. That isn't attractive to me. Not to restate the obvious but that is what it comes down to; personal preference. Two consenting adults; fine. But some scenes are a little much for my viewing pleasure. I can dig the spanking, slapping (even more so when the woman being screwed is doing the slapping), hair pulling, hands around the neck, hard fucking, etc.
Ok...nothing against Dana but why in the newest Brian Pumper thread she list reasons why her/people don't care for him but in this thread she says this is not cool? Am I missing something? This is not to offend Dana or anyone else but I am curious why one is ok to do and not the other. I am confused I think. [invalid URL removed]Pumper Thread Edited by - theDude008 on 10/10/2011 9:34:05 PM
I get the impression that Nacho does the performance equivalent of bling. I'd rather see female talent instead of male bling in porn, but I am fairly warned of bling when the guy's name is in the title.
A couple of observations. What's that about Rocco and his good looks? And Katja never really ever said that she loved anal. She usually said, "For me, it is OK." Speaking of which, Katja worked with Nacho in Back 2 Evil. Katja played a submissive geisha girl in a cage. The set-up was too damned long, and they did seem to stop too often for no good reason. Velvet Rose was in the scene, too, so it should've been scorching. She did make Katja toss her salad, so that was cool. Oh well.
To answer the question posed about what I said about brain pumper is because he is pretty much black listed by most companies for falsifying tests. Which is a pretty dumb thing to do.
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 2:43AM
Dana Dearmond wrote (concerning B. Pumper)-This was Dana's opinion of a fellow male performer. Dana Dearmond wrote (Taken from above)-Dana, I respect you and your opinion- but the above seems quite contradictory. FWIW, I seem to recall posting that Pumper should have been banned from the business when he falsified tests. It was unforgivable and he obviously placed many lives in danger. Then again, that's just my opinion...
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 3:21AM
There is a difference in one respect though Max. Dana knows Brian. Dana, Asa and Kristina know Nacho. None of the other posters in this thread know them and are making judgements on their personality including accusing Nacho of hating women.
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 4:31AM
Nacho's scenes are NACHO's scenes- they're never Asa scenes, never Dana scenes, never Kristina scenes, etc., I never used the word "HATE" or phrase "HATE'S WOMEN". I agreed that he's rough and find it disheartening that he's now being featured in pretty much every release from every production company that I usually follow- the above is my opinion, which is seemingly mirrored by some of the other posters in this thread. I believe HIS scenes are inherently degrading, thus his appeal- very similar to how Max Hardcore was popular, during his time, for being degrading to women- that's my opinion and one would think to be hard to argue but feel free. He chokes, slaps faces, spits in faces, pokes heads into toilets and steps on women's heads- this is what I've SEEN from HIS scenes in the past and from a slew of recent trailers. I've skipped his stuff for years. (No opinions to be found here- there's nothing to argue with). Pumper is reviled by many, yet continues to work. He's a performer and a director that still has female talent, some popular veterans, coming in to do scenes with him. Being paid apparently supersedes public opinion. Midnight Max wrote- (These are all of my posts in this thread, concerning Nacho, collected to peruse through again). So many conclusions and so much anger drawn from so little... "And, unfortunately, he's the flavor of the month again. His scenes are all about him- he spends every second trying to make you forget that there's a female in the scene." "^ +1 and Fuckin' A!" "Closeted Max Hardcore fans... gotta love 'em. Or maybe not."
-How "rude" of me. How incendiary, how "Hateful" I am... Gimme a fuckin' break.
Any Star Crossed thread title that uses the word wrong, is probably a set up for failure. Somebody is going to get their feelings hurt, or pissed off, or both.
Midnight Max,the closet Max Hardcore fan commemt was unnecessary though.Theres not even a comparison is there really?TBH you made yourself look silly with that.
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 7:47PM
Well, that is true! But in general, if a guy is acting like a douchebag on a porn DVD that's not plot driven, there's a pretty good chance that the guy is a douchebag in real life also. As an example, I've seen and heard enough about Brody Jenner and Spencer Pratt to know that they're douchebags without ever actually meeting them. I don't watch Nacho's work because it's not my taste, but I could never take someone seriously who's stage name is "Nacho!" Edited by - rosco fuji on 10/11/2011 7:50:33 PM
Porn targeting heterosexual males should never have a dude as the main focus of a film. This is why I ignore any film featuring a Nacho or a Rocco or a Manuel 99 percent of the time. Anal doggy style while the guy stomps on the girl's head, aggressive guys slapping the girls face, girls eating man ass or sucking man toes, women getting their heads shoved in a toilet...I mean really...it just doesn't arouse me. But I guess that someone is buying these DVD's or these guys would not still be in business. So if this stuff gets you off then have at it. It's a business. The free market (supply and demand)always decides which products are successful and which ones are not. Right?
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 11:35PM
Sorry, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me that he isn't named after a snack food. Nacho might be a derivative of Ignacio, but so is Iggy.
nacho is a short for ignacio, and its his real name, so i dont really think its too cool for busting someone's balls for what they are named. sorry :(
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Posted - Oct 12 2011 : 4:30AM
Folks, Nacho wasnt like that all the time... He started to act like that after mating with Rocco in his movies. He is a rather handsome, ... naturally gifted guy and he has tremendous potential to be very erotic, transferring this eroticism to his beautiful partners. Unfortunately he and many others tried to imitate Rocco's offensive behavior, which some times is part of the sexual game, but most of the times becomes repulsive and distracting and kills the entire scene! Not to Nacho and every Nacho acting male actor.. Yes, We are in favor of intensity and spontaneous reactions but please try to be more lover than raper. I am not speaking only for myself... BTW he has appeared in many hot scenes. PS. I dont know how many of you watch spanish football or soccer as the americans calls it, but Nacho has great resemblance with Daniel Alves the right back defender of Barcelona. That's irrelevant .. Explore Sexuality!
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Posted - Oct 12 2011 : 10:16AM
Sorry, Dana, but I'll have to disagree and agree with you at the same time. I agree that kids teasing other kids about their names in is not cool, but an adult male in the US calling himself Nacho especially in the porn industry, regardless of whether its a deriviative of his real name, is just ripe for parody. Especially with his standing on the girl's head antics. When I hear the word Nacho, I don't think of all the Ignacios in the world, I'm thinking Belle Grande, Supreme, or O'Brady, with a side of sour cream and salsa.
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Posted - Oct 12 2011 : 11:40AM
In my mind, Nacho is a Rocco Want-To-Be. He wants so badly to come across in the Rocco style. He doesn't quite pull it off. Rocco can be abusive but at least he can pull off the face stomping and slapping. I think Nacho on the other hand really wants to punish women and gets his rocks off doing it.
After seeing much of Nacho's earlier stuff, I was really looking forward to his new scenes. Unfortunately, they don't do it for me.
^ Watch Rocco Ravishes Ibiza 2.Theres a scene with Rocco,Nacho,Roxy Jezel and Angel Dark.Roxy seems to be struggling a bit with the anal so Nacho takes it real easy with her while Rocco just goes ahead and mercilessy fucks her ass.Hmmmmm
All I know about Nacho is what I see him do on screen and that`s why I judge him from his on screen persona. It`s irrelvant to me if he`s a sweetheart outside of porn because I don`t get to see that.
The implications of "whats wrong with nacho vidal?" is "What's wrong with the people who like his porn?" and "What's wrong with the people who like working with him?" Rough hardcore is a niche market. If it's fairly labelled, no problem, but one rough scene in a broader market dvd will ruffle some feathers, especially if there's a rough scene in every dvd in that market. To people who don't want rough porn, that's money and dvd space wasted. This is another issue that becomes less important as dvds are replaced by scene downloads, but there is still a measurable amount of loss as people avoid entire dvds due to single rough scenes.
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Posted - Oct 13 2011 : 12:27AM
He does do some positions in his scenes that are intriguing, and would probably take a lot of stretching for most to attempt. Has stamina as well so I can see the appeal. It's the tranny stuff that concerns me that could bring possible harm to all my favorite girls in porn valley. I heard he's already left the USA, but it seems like he must have had 3 scenes a day because he's in almost EVERY movie I've seen lately.
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Posted - Oct 13 2011 : 1:05AM
Nacho did some classic scenes with Belladonna and Avy Scott that I can recall and his scenes with Asa and Kristina have been excellent. I think his scene with Gracie Glam in Lust is less extreme than most of the others because I'm sure just like Rocco and Manuel he adjusts to the woman he's performing with.
the answer to the question asked is simple......NOTHING AT ALL! Nacho is Nacho and a lot of what you see is him being him but with that he does what A) the director wants from him, B) what the female he is working with can handle and likes and C) how his mood and the location get his mind going. I 100% love what he does and even when he goes a little to far I cant help but laugh and think, if there were no limits what would come out of that mind.
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