What suprises me is that in all the time Max had been in jail, no-one else has stepped up to the plate to deliver that style of full-on extremity. I mean - there must be a market for it, and even if more mainstream US producers are scared of getting prosecuted, you'd think some kind of website only content producers would try and fill that gap.
People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11
Posted - Aug 21 2011 : 1:34PM
Right on brother, anyone whose work is politically incorrect is a friend of mine. I think some Max Hardcore titles should be mandatory viewing at a feminist convention.
Maybe someday they'll release the complete of works of Max Hardcore (Max Hardcores Gesamtausgabe) in a single box with all his DVDs, each with audio commentary by Camille Paglia. We'd get to hear insightful things such as: "Here you see the embodiment of the myth of Priapus", or "That's how they did it in Ancient Rome", or even "This is why Max will never blow himself up for 72 virgins."
I hope you people won't mind my saying this but his joke made perfect sense to me. Of course the chances of finding anything funny drop considerably if somebody's thinking is biased by political correctness.
And given that you're the guy who calls me dishonest just because I use plain "ugly" instead of a hypocritical "unattractive", your argument pretty much confirms what I'm saying. Edited by - HarryScriba on 8/22/2011 8:09:44 PM
That surprises you? Really? Think of it this way. Let's say you're in a business where you can make money selling porn that while it might not make you rich, will still sell and won't attract the attention of the federal government any more than the porn of anyone else. Why on earth would you even want to emulate (or even outdo) a guy who just went to prison for pushing the limits? Edited by - randomprecision on 8/23/2011 4:18:36 AM
People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11
Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 8:53PM
Thanks for the support, my intent was to simply get a laugh but instead I struck a nerve on a few members, not what I wanted. I think you summed it up perfectly. I could not have said it better. No wonder poor Max was so hated by so many.
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Posted - Aug 23 2011 : 3:19AM
Bobbitos the comeback is in progress he is uploading tons of stuff to free "tube" sites, but according to most folks in here & AVN peeps its illegal for us to access this material due to copyright infringement (even thought Max is uploading these to move more of his product and keep his name in the porn public's collective consciousness).
The joke was completely hilarious and only the most pretentious of members would intentionally refuse to find the obvious humor in it. I would add though-that at these feminist conventions, the chair should vibrate WHILE they are forced to watch ol' Max do his thing.
HS- Your dishonesty was evident when you said you don't have anything against transsexuals and then proceeded to demonize them. Specifically, the Old English origins of the word "orc" and the etymology of that word in contemporary English. Saying a person or group of persons doesn't appeal to you is one thing. Not all music lovers love jazz and among jazz lovers you'll find a variety of opinions about Miles Davis. Going out of your way to argue that they appear inhuman after denying you've got nothing against them is another. You say you're not dishonest. (Even though the extent to which my barb has stung you suggests otherwise.) Then try the following. The next time you're out and about in the physical word, go up to any group of strangers belonging to the same cohort. The cohort can be an ethnic group, members of a certain sexual preference, or a profession (such as cops). Tell them that you have nothing against them. Then immediately describe them in pejorative terms.
I personally think he's Shelley Lubben messing with us. Explains the jazz reference. Rumor has it Shelley's a great fan of wind instruments. She even played with Kenny G once. It was a major hit on the PBS channel, right behind Charlie Rose.
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Posted - Aug 23 2011 : 10:56PM
Max Hardcore - I dunno...the world of adult entertainment is already laden with debauchery but to see some prick intentionally making girls uncomfortable; not a fan. I know there is a niche for that and some people are able to pull off the dominating attitude but with him it just seems like he's a big jerk on screen. Not sure what the women who have filmed with him have to say...I'd be interested to see the percentage of women that enjoyed the experience. GGG Models archive at Pornstarchive - Work in progress!
^I'd be interested to see that as well... However, I've seen a lot of Max films and while they look choked or overwhelmed at times, I never really see regret in the eyes. So I would wager that JM Productions actually has many more girls that would claim working with them "wrecked their life" or at least that they severely regret it. I've seen a lot of JM films and you can see many girls who want to get out of the shoot half way through and not only does Powers manipulate them into staying but he makes fun of them, humiliating them verbally, etc. And you can tell it's real on both ends. I like both film makers, just wanted to say... frankly, Max isn't that bad lol.
Also... Let's also be real here-in both cases, if a girl signs up to do some movie where a guy is gonna piss in her mouth with or without drinking it, or she's gonna eat the cum from 75 "bums off the street" (as Powers tells some of them lol).... I really have no sympathy for them. In one of Powers movies, I believe it was Carly Parker who is basically throwing a tantrum during a Gokkun, he asks her "Did you think this was going to be romantic?" These girls know what they are getting into, if they bite off more than they can chew-then perhaps porn isn't so different than most of our professions.
Quit comparing those who watch Max to pedophiles, rapists and murderers. You are way out of line here and beyond pompous. There is little difference between Max and dozens of others-who do the same shit, peeing on each other and throat fucking and puking and so forth. It's all fucking legal and is nothing like pedophilia-and you're a sick fuck to even bring that into it. Now why don't you mind your own fucking business and pipe up when someone actually does something illegal. Go join a christian forum if you want to shove your views down the throats of others. edit: Toning it down :) Edited by - seedfeeder on 8/23/2011 11:54:00 PM
On occasion, I have wondered if some of these pornographers don't deliberately trick them in some way just so they can get that reaction on camera and make all of us out here making free speech arguments look like idiots. It occurs to me that maybe we shouldn't discount the possibility of impostors who may well enjoy what they're doing well enough but are also working to destroy the industry from the inside (Whether knowingly or having been somehow goaded into it by someone who does know the consequences). I don't doubt there are people who get off on it (seeing girls tricked into intolerable situations) but would they really be so blatant about it? Yeah. I know. Paranoia. Right?
^It's a viable theory, but no I don't think so. 2 Examples for you: 1/ My favorite-Carly Parker. She knew it was a cum eating fiesta, she brags at the beginning about how great she is at it, while staring down the room of 60+ guys. She knows exactly what she signed up for, and also boasts about her ability to do it... then starts whining after only about 3 or 4 cum shots and bitches for the rest of it acting as though she has no choice.... To conform to TOS, I'll avoid saying what I think is going on there, but she sure as hell didn't get "tricked" into it lol. 2/ Camilla in American Bukkake 31 I think it was. She too knows it's a huge cum eating fiesta... I believe it was her first and only porn movie too. About midway through she appears to slip into a deep depression and you can see a sudden self hate overcome her-like as though she's wondering.... of the millions of decisions she made in life.. how did she get here.... eating load after load from fat, hairy JM style slobs? I've also seen a few movies with girls swallowing piss.... you can tell they hate it... they obviously knew what they were signing on to do (the ones I've seen are not Max style-just piss, that's it, nothing else)... yet they sign up and horrify their way through it... I don't follow what these girls are thinking, but perhaps some women have a streak of masochism and haven't come to terms with it just yet-but no fucking way do they appear tricked. :)
Neither do I but I'd really like to know why someone would go into a scene like that knowing what it's all about and then turn in the middle of it with no explanation and leave it looking like they were forced or tricked into it or something. I didn't see either of the scenes you mentioned but something weird is going on when you have stuff like that.
Mike Adriano stole his style? Then how come I hate that old bastard Max Hardcore and find Mike awesome? Fuck Max Hardcore, he should be left rotting getting assraped. Edited by - Gunzo on 8/24/2011 9:46:14 AM
It's a little more than not normal when someone goes from being totally down for something to completely averse to it in a few minutes without something happening that they completely didn't expect.
^It could be as simple as indecision.... Or maybe it changed when she tasted some dude who ate 3 steaks and a bag of asparagus with garlic before shooting a nice wad on her tongue.... Anything is possible
Maybe. I'm indecisive at times. But if, for example, I don't want to eat 60 loads of jizz fresh from the tap, I'm pretty sure I know it when someone asks me if I want to. You would think something like that would be a little more clear cut than, say, "Hmmmm. Do I want to get my nails done today or not?"So she never tasted nasty cum before that? That just doesn't fly. How many loads of cum do you reckon the average female has tasted by the time she's on a porn set? Also, I would think all cum tastes nasty enough to someone who's gonna change their mind the instant they taste some that doesn't taste exactly like a big gob of snot. So snot flavored cum is OK but asparagus flavored snot isn't? WTF? Edited by - randomprecision on 8/24/2011 2:16:17 PM
^hmm somehow I think your something and my something don't speak the same language. Now goddamit, where was I - Oh yes, we were discussing motives and confusion of young ladies gobbling glorious amounts of cum, or was this thread about the coolness in a cowboy hat called "max hardcore"?
^ Since I only know bits and pieces of the Max Hardcore story, what exactly was the cowboy hat all about anyway? I used to wonder why he wore the thing and then I eventually just gave up and accepted it that here was a guy talking about asspipes (or something) naked and wearing a cowboy hat. It's amazing what you can get used to. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/25/2011 3:29:09 AM
^No idea. I just thought of it because my wife doesn't like him-and she refers to him as the "guy with the cowboy hat." But her dislike is based on his appearance, not his behavior. She also dislikes Rodney Moore because of how he looks. Other than those 2, she has no complaints. Next time I watch a Max Hardcore Film, I'm going to count the times he says "yea"
Well, in that case, if anyone knows the story behind the cowboy hat, feel free to chime in. I need to solve the mystery. Rodney Moore - It's a shame she doesn't like Rodney. I can see why. He's not exactly a Greek god but he's made some good shit over the years. And he's in a completely different category than Max as far as behavior (as far as I know, anyway). But that springy toilet seat fucking contraption thing he has in so many of his movies bugs me a lot. I don't know what's up with that thing. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/25/2011 10:44:25 AM
^ No way-I love the springy toilet seat-I always figured Rodney invented it. I especially like it for the concept of cunnilingus opportunities. I have always wanted one-any idea where I could get one or how he built it??? You're just confused on that one Random!!! And I agree-Rodney was a trailblazer. He was among the first to actually create "swallow" movies, he also ignored the status quo of gonzo porn and went back to storylines which made many of his movies hot. He also worked mostly with girl next door types which I love. And I agree, he's nothing like Max, nor his movies-all I know is those are the 2 my wife doesn't like to see in movies lol. Edited by - seedfeeder on 8/25/2011 10:50:50 AM
Maybe so. He's pretty creative in the way he shoots so that creativity may well extend to building/inventing things. I liked it the first couple of times I saw it. Mainly just because I'd never seen anything like it in American porn. You can't completely hate something that original. It just wore on me after a while.Me? None. Maybe he reads ADT.This is what I really love about him. You don't see the kind of girls he shoots in a lot of other porn and he has a really unique style that makes them look really good. He does use the wide angle lens (which usually bugs me but maybe he uses one that's better quality or something because it doesn't seem to completely destroy the image).
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Posted - Aug 20 2011 : 10:33AM
