pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 1 2008 : 5:47AM
it's so the genitals are more visible. amusing to find that people now imitate porn in real life. things are changing a bit though, many of the best girls are sporting a bit of muff: Gianna, Sasha Grey, Kristian Rose.
I sport a muff, but shave my lips so that the camera can see. I keep it "bikini trimmed," so it fits within the lines of my panties... but I LOVE the hair uptop. To me, little girls are clean shaven, real women have hair. Nothing against the girls that wear it shaved off... but after coming into this biz a barely legal teen and having my photo used as an example of kiddie porn in the movie Freeway (Reese Witherspoon, Brooke Shields, Keifer Sutherland, Bookem Woodbine,) I realized just how young I really looked at that time in m life. I embrace my womanhood now.. and the hair that cums with it. ;)
When people say that shaved genitals is some kind of pedophilic tendency thingie, I ask them if the same goes for shaved armpits or shaved chest. I think the reason is increased hygiene in general. Keeping clean today is not just taking a shower every other day and changing clothes once in a while. Many get paranoid because they don't know how dirty smells like anymore, all they know is the fresh smell of perfumed products. But I don't think there are any trends when it comes to pubic appearence today, it's all about personal preference whether it's based on aesthetics or practicality or both.
I was jacking off to some Kelly Marie from a photo layout and the whole thing was too fucking processed > no grit got two guys waxed with.... long hair Jean Val Jean?? lol damn shit she should have been sitting on Max Hardcore's dick or sucking off Dave Cummings, that would have been so much more exciting, too processed nice contract for her she ain't going anywhere else so its a bore.
The increased hygene awareness is good definitely good for porn > the pussy is easily the most fetid/rank body part, keep it nicely trimmed for the sake of "looks" and wash to eliminate odour.
Hairy is not unhygienic at all. I think people should shave however much they like, or not. Completely shaven looks good, bushy looks good, something in between looks good. I prefer some hair compared to sq ft of shaving rash. I hate when all pussies look alike, and I hate when girls feel they "have to" follow a trend.
I like a small bit of hair down there. To answer your question it was on the 3rd of September (can't remember the year) but that day I'll always remember. Wait that was the day that my daddy died. Forget it.
My personal preference is a well-trimmed beaver (like Racquel Darrien), but I understand that having hair down there can lead to odors. Not to be mean, but I remember hearing lots of trash talk, back in the day, about performer Lois Ayres being known for having pubic hair odor. My guess is the main reason most porn girls today are clean shaven, is because with skimpy bikinis, getting a Brazilian wax is a necessity. In the real Lesbian community, however, not shaving is very common. So, when mainstream actress Mia Kirshner did her big full-frontal nude scene in "The L Word" at the end of the first season, she kept it "real" displayed a full, hairy beaver. Last comment. Men shaving their genital hair is also becoming more common--not just in porn, but in real life. Probably the odor thing, again.
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Posted - Dec 1 2008 : 10:22AM
It's only polite to remove the hair from anywhere you expect someone else to put their mouth.
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Knuckle Kids Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 1 2008 : 5:48PM
Pubic hair odor?? Are you serious? Give me a break, by that logic, the hair on your head would stink all the time also. If Lois Ayres had an odor problem, it wasn't her pubic hair, it was her pussy. A simple shower would easily wash any pub odor away. Washing her actual pussy is another matter. If there are any odors coming from someone's crotch, it's a cleanliness thing from the actual cash and prizes(props to Dane Cook for that term) not the pubic hair that adorns it. As far as the actual shaving and waxing is concerned, the reason its done is simple, it's visually appealing for girls to have a manicured pussy, whether it's smooth or with some hair. And in the case of guys shaving or waxing their balls, that's just gay! But as the female duo known as Tastyskank sing, "Manscape your area" It's a matter of consideration for your partner as she really doesn't want to floss while giving head. Edited by - knuckle kids on 12/1/2008 11:01:38 PM
I'm personally not a fan of "drowning in bitch juice" (wish I could take credit for that one, but it's someone else's, I forget who) when I'm going down on a ladyfriend, so I ask that it's trimmed. But shaved or trimmed, I don't care, as long as the hair isn't so long that it keeps a lot of her moistness in it, which then goes up my nose when I breathe in while going down on her. That is an awkward situation to be in, let me tell you. Lick, lick, cough-snort-cough-cough-snort, is not the way to push your girl closer to orgasm. As far as what I like to see in porn goes, again, I'm not a fan of super-long hair just because it obscures some of the beauty that is the female groin area - but shaved or trimmed, it's all good. I think I prefer the next-to-labia area to be shaved, just so I get a better view. But up above, it doesn't matter if there's no hair, short-ish hair, a "landing strip", whatever.
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Posted - Dec 1 2008 : 6:31PM
I like a full-fledged pussy fro, so long as the hair around the labia is neatly shaved. i.e = Allie Foster, Sasha Grey, Gianna et al.
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Posted - Dec 1 2008 : 7:58PM
I am fully shaved..waxed actually...What surprises me is the number of young girls {18 & under}I see in the ER who come in fully shaved. We have a fairly big Latino population in our area, and I have yet to see a young latina that I have to examine who isn't shaved. White girls are mostly shaved, but I still encounter a white teen girl here & there that does not shave, but it's very much not the norm.
Usually I don't name names when it's negative about someone. But, there's lots of interviews, from back in the day, with other pornstars saying this about her. Still, my bad.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 2 2008 : 2:43AM
The claim that it has to do with smell is ridiculous, it clearly comes out of porn where it was done for visibility in scenes, no one shaved before it became popular in porn except for a small fetish niche. And yes, that niche included those with a jones for underage girls, read about Gary Gilmore in Executioner's Song, he had that particular bent.
Edited by - BlackSix on 12/2/2008 2:44:30 AM
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Posted - Dec 2 2008 : 8:35AM
One of the biological functions of pubic (And underarm hair for that matter) is to retain and accentuate a persons odour... To assist in the spreading of our pheromones. So those who think that pubic hair and the removal of such can't be at least partially motivated by smell are completely out of touch with reality. Do you groom the hair on your head? On your face? Why not under your arms, or on your crotch? "that's just gay!" There's very little more pathetic than homophobes.
Yep, but it is one of them. Another is to prevent germs/yeast etc by providing for more air circulation and less humidity.Of course it's not gay. People should do whatever they want. I want to taste all the variants of pussy as well :D
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Posted - Dec 2 2008 : 4:16PM
Of course it's not gay. People should do whatever they want. I want to taste all the variants of pussy as well :D
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Waxing or shaving your balls is about as gay as one can get without being homosexual.
^Really? Like, is it more gay than having hairy balls, and doing double anal? How do you even quantify something like that? What if the reason you wax your balls is so your girlfriend will suck on them for you? Is that gay?
Do you really have to ask? Look it it for fucks sake! It looks like a big ass hairy tribble. How is that in any way sexy or feminine?
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Posted - Dec 2 2008 : 4:47PM
Easy! I was using the term gay, just like we all did as a kid when we called someone a "Fag!" We wern't actually refering to them as being gay, it was just the way they were acting. And I did say, it was gay without actually being homosexual. And I was refering to to the actually waxing or shaving of the balls. I actually use clippers to keep everything tidy for said suckage. As far as double anal being gay? My take would be completely gay if in gay porn, and semi gay, depending on the guys doing Audrey Hollander. Truthfully, some of those guys do look a little light in the loafers. I mean IMHO, in some of her scenes it almost like they edited out any guy on guy play. But I guess overall Double Anal is not gay "in the traditional sense" as it happens in straight porn vs porn with a designation of Bi or Gay.
^ I have an awesome solution for you to avoid such misunderstandings in the future: Now that you're not a child anymore, stop speaking like one. "Gay" means "homosexual". It doesn't mean "lame" or "stupid" or whatever else. [edit: it's also possible for it to mean "happy", but that's begging for confusion as well.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 12/2/2008 6:20:07 PM
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 3 2008 : 1:48AM
We are officially in bizarro world where a hairy bush, which is definitively feminine, is somehow declared un-feminine.
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Posted - Dec 3 2008 : 10:56AM
Hear frigg'n hear! Language like this is nothing more than thinly veiled homophobia. And in the 21st Century, it's well past time we moved bast such childish behaviour.
A big hairy bush is about as feminine as a mustache. It just looks bad. Now if it's closely cropped, it's nice but that bushy stuff is just too much. It may be natural but it sure don't look natural. Completely shaved is kind of annoying too because it usually leaves a razor rash. I just like to be able to actually see the pussy and it looks neater if it's at least trimmed.
IMO, [ invalid url ] showing of a bit of hair. And, as others here have mentioned, Gianna looks great with or without hair as well.
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Posted - Dec 3 2008 : 3:55PM
An American Sexuality Magazine study found that most men who disliked female pubic hair were typically never married, lived with their parents, and were bisexual.
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Posted - Dec 3 2008 : 4:00PM
I'm married... haven't lived with my parents since I was 18 or so.... and can't say I'm any more bi-sexual than any other heterosexual male (Let's not pretend sexuality is a gay or straight or bi toggle switch of some kind.... it's a scale that can slide, day to day or even moment to moment... ) I don't hate pubic hair, but if you don't care about yourself enough to groom, why should anyone else care about you? So much for that 'study'
I have been shaving mine off since I ever had any to shave, just personal preference. I don't like the feeling of hair down there, maybe up top I'd be ok but not on the lips, and I think the only reason why I never let a little grow in up top is because I would drive myself crazy trying to keep it "even", lol. Im a perfectionist about stuff like that ;) I do like a little 'landing strip" on other girls, something hot about it. Not a fan of a full bush, just too much in my way, lol.
I like some pubic hair on display rather than none. It seems like almost all the pornstars clean shave nowadays. I think it's really sexy as long as it's trimmed and not excessively bushy.
I've been watching a lot of 1970s porn recently, primarily for the pubic hair (as well as for the plot). I like Japanese porn partly because of the pubic hair, too. I've actually decided not to buy any more porn without bush. Shaved women just look too processed for me: I like things to be down and dirty and natural. Fake boobs and fake tans are finally going out of style in U.S. porn, so maybe pubic hair will become the norm again, too. Personally, I'm even ok with arm-pit hair on women. It's a fetishistic thing (the pubic hair being the last thing you see before you see the pussy itself). Also, I find women so incredibly attractive and delicate in so many ways, I like it when a more animalistic side of their femininity shows, too. And it shows that they're a woman and not a girl. Throughout human history, the trend toward shaving comes and goes. The Ancient Greeks made their women remove their pubic hair. For most of recent European history, women had hairy armpits and pussies. I just think a woman in stockings and a corset looks so much better with a bush. As for men, I think it's best they shave. In porn, hairy cocks can end up covering the woman's body (I've seen this in some JAV). In real life, I think a trimmed pubic area on males just looks better. But it's not an absolute preference. In my personal life, I trim and have very little hair, my wife leaves hers totally natural, and we're both happy that way. I've never encountered a woman with a full bush who had a problem with odor, so I don't see how leaving it unshaved can cause a problem as long as you wash daily. There have been quite a few discussions about pubic hair around here over the past few months. Interesting.
I'm ok either way as well. Though I prefer that the hair looks "nice", meaning it doesnt look too long or intertwined. I'm ok with armpit hair as long as its not excessive, a bit trimmed is ok, same goes for pussy. It's not a fetish for me, although it is a bit exciting to see it on an attractive girl once in a while because its so rare. I'd want my girlfriend to vary, some times shaved, some times bushy. Variation is good.
i dont mind a little here, but just not bushy where its distracting. a nice landing strip is fine, but shaven is the best to look at! personally, i started to get into the habit of shaving more frequently, it just feels better!
I don't buy it. I didn't even bother asking for a source. I do think the people who are the most obsessed about shaving are a bit immature, but you can't extrapolate from there.
"I can shave off my pubic hair - makes guys think they're fucking a little girl." - Beth Anna in Gerard Damiano's Skin Flicks I think that, and the fact that it makes the gash more visible. I find shaved and even excessively trimmed pussys gross. Not that I think they should be hairier than most men's crotches (which are equally gross when excessively shaved or trimmed) but that shaved girls look horrible.
Man I'm a mess..I've been married 3 times, live with my wife, have 3 step-sons and I haven't crossed the Bi line. And I most definately don't care for a hairy puss.
Why? I've never found hairless bodies of either gender in the least bit attractive. I've encountered a number of women who have full blown forests between their legs but I still find that more appealing and natural to a slab of flesh with a gash in it. In the 70s, blad/shaved/shaving pussies had freak and fetish appeal. Suddenly people looking like real people was given freak value and an unnatural shaved, babydoll, silicon injected human piece of rubber look took off. Can someone explain why this is appealing? Seriously!
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Posted - Dec 15 2008 : 12:34PM
It's like any other 'attraction'... if you don't already 'get' it no amount of explaining will make it clear to you... Different strokes for different folks I prefer bald or trimmed to jungle-thatch for a few reasons.... It's more comfortable to put in my mouth if it has no hair on it, is a reason I can explain.... and it's an aesthetic I prefer, is a reason I cannot explain.
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Posted - Nov 30 2008 : 11:49PM
We are officially in bizarro world where a hairy bush, which is definitively feminine, is somehow declared un-feminine.