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the dark knight
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 4:06AM
Get this straight i dont HATE or look down on any of the females who engage in porn we are all human and have different feelings/thoughts ect about these things but to think porn is anything more then prostitution is amazingly gullible or naive on your part for of performers working 5 years or more i reckon 80% of they escort or have escorted on the side i could be way of the mark but i would say this is pretty close. Hannah west sells her talent her drive her ect ect sorry thats rubbish imo you sell your body for money no one who hires you really cares about anything but that. You say we all prostitue ourselves this is true to an extent but the great game of female vs males on a date is a laughable comparison to turning up on a film set having sex with a guy you sometimes dont find attractive, doing multiple humiliating looking things and getting paid for it. you can dress a cow as a horse but its still the same thing inside. all i want is HONESTY that its all about M.O.N.E.Y fixing VCRs is the same as doing porn? god how deluded are some of the girls in porn AND SOME OF THE MALES WHO WATCH IT?.
And finally i watch porn for the same reason all men do to get off but the big difference between me and some men is i can SEE it for what it is some naive men and women here think to much into it,creative,exhibitionist freedom for women a form of art ect its a fantasy of hot women having sex, men imagine themselves in the situation to get off it is nothing more then that.
Edited by - the dark knight on 4/11/2008 4:12:04 AM
moodyblues
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 6:10AM
Being in porn is like having the ultimate infomercial to promote your services. There's nothing wrong with making over $1000 an hour to meet with someone who wants to experience the real thing. It must spoil the fantasy for you when you find out that a girl escorts.
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 12:12PM
Well miss hannah west doesn't escort. I don't hold grudges to those who do it.. but I'm paranoid about safety. If my agent knows I'm at a company.. I trust that Mark will come and fucking get me if something goes bad. He's a good person to have on your side.
I am not deluded.
I understand what was going on. I told you that you can call me a prostitute..
But I also told you to form a solid opinion. But you suck at it.
Mr I love porn
and porn forums
but you are all prostitutes
Okay here.. take it. I am a prostitute in many different ways.
But the god news..
is I'm not ignorant.
I am the type of person who is strong enough to have the world dissect me, laugh at me, and pick through my brain.. because I know what's going on.. and not only that.. I'll laugh back because I feel more enlightened.
and you are what? A civilian? Correct? Just some dude who... hummm... single, holds a job down.. and comes to forums presuming you know the truth about how porn operates? Late at night perhaps.. and when you are done with these posts.. do you click over to "view more porn star photos".... You want to look at your favorite prostitutes.. maybe jack your dick in the computer chair.. and call it a night.
I'm a prostitute. (and I was honest.. but I had a different meaning for the word)
You are a tool. (you can't seem to be HONEST about that)
I don't find you ignorant, really.. I find you narrow. But that's okay. I do think, however, you could do something more productive with your opinions.
and I'll take this time since you are a consumer.. to thank you for keep us prostitutes and pimps in business...
You make the demand for us.. just by simply being here
we provide the supply.
Thank you.
Hannah West ;)
oh oh oh.. and for the record.. I have had companies re-hire me after they saw my personality. You think these people want to deal with divas? You think they want to deal with twits that don't know what they are doing? You don't think they take a person inconsideration who is creative enough to shit talk and needs little direction. You know nothing about my job friend. Just as I know little about yours. Think about it.. it's not about being cute to the director. He/she knows you were cute. They saw your picture.. You have to go in there and rock that set with your attitude.
Edited by - Hannah Westxxx on 4/11/2008 12:19:38 PM
Milwaukee_Porn_Addict
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 12:19PM
Good for you Hannah.
There is nothing wrong in what you do. And I loved your bringing up the guy taking a girl out for a steak dinner, etc. Why else would he do it if he didn't want to get laid?
I heard on a talk show a few years ago about prostitution. They brought out this guy who saw escorts all the time. He said, "Hell, I could spend a couple hundred buying clothes, taking a girl out and showering her with gifts and still go home alone, or I could spend the same amount and get what I'm looking for. I'm just cutting out all the BS that goes along with dating."
 
Hannah Westxxx
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506 Posts
8/07
Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 12:25PM
see!!!
At least I am smart enough to know that guys have a motive.
Guys are never nice because they want to be your friends and just buy you dinner.. sex will always be on the back of their minds.
guy motive= pussy/company
girl motive=love/money/material things/
YOU all have done it at least once for pussy
If the girls first motive isn't met.. she looks at her other options
Hannah West ;)
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 1:37PM
^Hannah West rules. That is all.
caroline-NL
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 4:05PM
Dark Knight, you sound very judgemental and cynical !
You tell us, that we are "deluded".
Full of illusions. This sounds like a blatant ignorance. Hannah always defends her own standpoints, even if they are far away from the mainstream. ( Just read some of her old posts here ) She isnt telling porn customers what they just want to hear.
This is the exact opposite of "marketing talk" and delusion, or ?
If you look down on porn ONLY as a jerk-off material, I am feeling sorry for you.
Its much more to me. Its even possible that your opinion reflects the majority of male porn customers, but you shouldnt deprive Hannah of her personal attitude toward porn.
Dave_K99
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 6:47PM
As far as generalisations go, I don't think this is too far off the mark. But believe it or not there are a fair few of us guys out looking for love as well...
...Not that sex isn't still there at the back of our minds.
(Then there are those male bimbos out looking for a sugar-momma...)
the dark knight
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 9:57PM
Of course! you understand now (and i always knew you did) we are the Johns or "tools" who are fed the 24/7 whore act tirelessly kept up by performers some of us buy it and think they "know" their favourite gals, others (like me) know what they are getting behind the gloss and are not so naive but still spending money to keep the circle rolling either way its all about money its the beauty of consumerism!
I still cant fathom though why people see it as more as jerkoff material though the girls are gorgeous many of them seem to be decent people but its not like the storylines (when there is one) are the next Citizen Kane all they are, are short interludes between scenes girls like Hannah who seems a nice person seems to hate the moniker of prostitute but thats what she is its not a judgemental thing i dont look down on you but its just a fact that some seem to constantly spin to make themselves feel better about what they do.
I say again porn isnt all rosy and sweet Vivid girl stuff there is some REALLY bad stuff out there you know what im talking about i know most girls know full well what they are doing but meatholes? Sexbox? and the even lower end gutter stuff churned out in larger quantities then ever before is disturbing some people performers and fans seem to completely blot it out when defending porn.
the dark knight
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:05PM
But it happens all to often many girls do escort i think (and i may be wrong)many newer girls initially dont do it but as they see more and more that porn IS prostitution, that there is no difference between sex with a stranger on camera then with a client in a hotel room and that it pays better for shorter hours they take the plunge. theres nothing wrong with this they just cement my claims on the biz.
Viva porn!
the dark knight
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:17PM
But thats the beautiful man/women game we all have done it our have been subject to it, its exciting and unpredictable the flirting the banter (and a free meal)and at the end its all up in the air will he/she go home with you do they like me ect.
to equate it to porn is crazy: haggle price with girl, girl agrees, comes over, sex, pay girl, girl leaves, repeat.
Dave_K99
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:38PM
You seem to be doing exactly the same thing that you accuse other people of. Believing that you know what's going on in someone else's head, and believing that you understand the motives behind what they choose to do. You don't know them any more than I do.
Every man and woman in the porn industry is an individual, what you say may be true for some, I do not believe that it's true for everyone. Ultimately they are the only ones who really know how they feel about what they do.
Frankly I'd take the word of someone who works in the industry over your assumptions and generalisations.
Hannah Westxxx
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8/07
Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:39PM
All I have to say is
blah
and I am done..
You suck and this probably isn't the site for you.
Hannah West ;)
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:55PM
Good point.
 
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:56PM
@Hannah,
Love your mind!
caroline-NL
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Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 9:13AM
Its strange. This "discussion" with Dark Knight reminds me of "conversations" with anti-porn feminists. Its just a waste of time.
And they are very tricky. Its like moving into a cul-de-sac. If you have sex before the camera, they say: " You only do this to make money. Its only for $. You dont like it at all." If you do it "for free", or better, you dont want to do it before a camera, because of several reasons, they say: " You dont have sex before a camera, because you dont like this too. You have realized, that this is no fun and no women can enjoy it. "


Edited by - Caroline-NL on 4/12/2008 9:29:13 AM

caroline-NL
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Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 9:18AM
caroline-NL
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Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 9:19AM
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