Thanks fundo, for creating the most funny threads.

Reading about why/how people should be changing the popular use of the English language is sort of like seeing someone sit in a corner, curled up in fetal position, rocking back and forth crying.

Totally pointless and sad.

Edited by - conquistador on 5/15/2007 12:21:17 AM

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Still, fundo, your agenda is showing through.

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There are thousands of escorts in the USA. There are escort review boards like theeroticereview.com , aspd.net. bigdoggie.net, theotherboard.com and several others---and not one of those boards allows any poster or review writer to use the "w" word.

I'm just tired of these producers like Jim Powers, Kan Tusion, JM and the others that have given porn a worse name than it already had in the 90s.

Seka, Veronica Hart,Ginger Lynn, Nina Hartley--they never were called the w word by their peers with the venom that the producers do today.

Edited by - fundo on 5/14/2007 11:30:17 PM

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I hope never. I'm rather fond of that word.

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Edited by - Endless Loop on 5/15/2007 5:23:38 AM

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I don't like much about Mike Power's work though. Some may find him a genius but not me.

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These types of things are of the essence in "hardcore porn". It's how the industry thrives. Women being degraded as sexual objects for fantasy purposes only. That's why there are series' like "black street hookers". They are catering to what sells and what people want.(female performers included) There are many males that like hearing a female being called a "whore", "slut" "cum dumpster" and everything under the sun. The industry would suffer big time without this type of content.

If these things bother you, maybe you shouldn't watch hardcore porn...

Edited by - sickguy on 5/15/2007 9:35:39 AM

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Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, whored, whor·ing.
–noun
1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.
–verb (used without object)
2. to act as a whore.
3. to consort with whores.
–verb (used with object)
4. Obsolete. to make a whore of; corrupt; debauch.

[Origin: bef. 1100; ME, OE hōre; c. G Hure, ON hōra; akin to Goth hors harlot, L cārus dear]

Whore as been around since 1100 AD.

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Whore is fine though.

- -B -I -G -m -i -k -e, here and there, over and out! - -

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most girls in the business are proud when you tell them what a great whore she is.

Although a few of my colleagues really don't like being called a whore and I always wandered why. This word describes perfectly what we are. A person who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money. (thank you Double Vag Lover)

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My best friend uses the word 'hooker' as a term of endearment towards her good friends and in referring to herself, and she's not a porn performer at all.

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well put.

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This issue about producers abusing female talent first started boiling up in the 1990s with Max Hardcore's product. I remember a friend who was going to enter the industry. She first talked to Jim South Sr. and she told him that she did not want to work with Max Hardcore--ever. So what happens next--my friend gets a call from Max Hardcore, and he tells her that he can help her career take off, and that he wants to work with her first. So my friend calls LA Direct Models and Derek tells her in substance that Jim South always lets Max Hardcore have first shot at any new talent. Fortunately for my friend, I had known about Max Hardcore since 1998. I remember his voice on the speakerphone--oh, he talked a good story about making my friend a star. She was very polite to him--and he called back numerous times.

What's needed is a website that is available to new talent considering entering the adult industry. It could be structured like any FAQ. It will list the producers and companies who respect women--like Evil Angel, Vivid, Wicked, and those that don't respect women. New talent is the lifeblood of the industry. If they can be reached, they can avoid the low-life women hater/producers.

80% of the performers working in 2009 will be women that have not even entered this business yet--so they can still be reached.

The website will discuss the various talent agencies--for instance, new talent considering World Modeling will be made aware that Jim South gives Max Hardcore first shot; that Derek at LA Direct expects talent to work hard and he will insult you--he'll tell you're boyfriend to get a job--that he is a real boss (many girls entering adult don't want to be bossed); that Lighthouse and Gold Star are some of the best agencies, along with LA Direct (if you can stand having someone ordering you around) and a few others.

Advise them the best way to obtain a contract and to go straight to the best companies, meet them at the conventions, and don't oversaturate yourself.

And female talent will have a place to speak out against those producers who try to blacklist them by posting at pornstar performance and here.

Escorts have a national database they can report bad "johns" to. The adult industry might benefit from a similar bad producer listing--if these guys are going to consider the new girls whores, then why not consider them johns, and put them in their place?

I think Luke and Gene and Mike South will link to the new site if it's done right. So watch out all you producers who disrespect the beautiful women in the adult industry--the new talent entering the business will be made aware of you before they do their first scene.

Edited by - fundo on 5/15/2007 5:02:27 PM

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And what about the male talent like Christian here in this thread--Christian, are you a whore then? Would you work for a producer that degraded you and called you a worthless dumb whore to your face? Hell no, and they'd be afraid to say that to your face--but they aren't afraid to say this to women. No producer is calling Tommy Gunn a whore to his face. So that says something about these little men doing this--they aren't afraid to abuse women.

Edited by - fundo on 5/15/2007 5:33:46 PM

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Now if someone calls a woman a name she doesn't like in RL and they're serious about it, I can see her getting upset.

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At escort boards and after knowing escorts, they hate the w word more than anything. Somehow the adult performers who like to be called whore must not think of themselves as a prostitute, when the consensus among some, like Mark Kulkis, is that they are prostitutes. I respect women so it doesn't matter to me if they are or not. They are all beautiful.

Edited by - fundo on 5/15/2007 7:37:38 PM

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In mainstream the actors don't have to worry since mainstream companies aren't going to try to offend anyone with titles of movies--but something like this is being discussed in the Porn News forum thread already about the nappy headed ho title Kulkis used, how the AA online community is trying to get organized to stop the release, and how those AA performers didn't know they were appearing in what to most AAs is a dvd with a racist title, so I'll drop it here.

IMHO maybe some female talent (Hanna Harper, who said in 2003 she liked being called a "whore" in her scenes) might think it means something different than what I believe the men who throw the word around mean by it--here is an example of how I think most of the men using the word are expressing themselves--in a mean-spirted, I'm better than you way--see the link:

Link to Mean-Spirited Way Most Men Use the Word Whore to Degrade a Woman

Edited by - fundo on 5/16/2007 3:37:04 AM

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I own what you call me and I have no shame in it

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Making and watching porn is fantasy land. We play out dirty fantasies. Mia Rose for instance is such a sweet young girl. But in porn I want her to be the ass licking, cum drinking whore. And in fact she really is both. That makes her such great performer and colleague.

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1. Whores have the ability to share their most private and sensitive body parts with total strangers.
2. Whores have good senses of humor.
3. Whores challenge sexual mores.
4. Whores are playful.
5. Whores are tough.
6. Whores have careers based on giving pleasure.
7. Whores are creative.
8. Whores are adventurous and dare to live dangerously.
9. Whores teach people how to be better lovers.
10. Whores are multi-cultured and multi-gendered.
11. Whores give excellent advice and help people with their personal problems.
12. Whores have fun.
13. Whores wear exciting clothes.
14. Whores have patience and tolerance for people that other people could never manage to put up with.
15. Whores make lonely people less lonely.
16. Whores are independent.
17. Whores teach people how to have safer sex.
18. Whores are a tradition.
19. Whores are hot and hip.
20. Whores are free spirits.
21. Whores relieve millions of people of unwanted stress and tension.
22. Whores heal.
23. Whores endure in the face of fierce prejudice.
24. Whores make good money.
25. Whores always have a job.
26. Whores are sexy and erotic.
27. Whores have special talents other people just don't have. Not everyone has what it takes to be a whore.
28. Whores are interesting people with lots of exciting life stories.
29. Whores get laid a lot.
30. Whores help people explore their sexual desires.
31. Whores explore their own sexual desires.
32. Whores are not afraid of sex.
33. Whores hustle.
34. Whores sparkle.
35. Whores are entertaining.
36. Whores have the guts to wear very big wigs.
37. Whores are not ashamed to be naked.
38. Whores help the handicapped.
39. Whores make their own hours.
40. Whores are rebelling against the absurd, patriarchal, sex-negative laws against their profession and are fighting for the legal right to receive financial compensation for their valuable work.

DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A WHORE?

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I have a brilliant solutoin to this double standard. We should demand every male producer who calls porn dolls slut and whores to equally call male performers pigs and dogs. IN this way it will clear up the confusion in the context whore is used. Tiffany Granath from Night calls constantly calls her male caller pigs. We should adopt this terminonlogy throughout the adult industry.

Thank YOu For Your Time
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mod: I have no idea what you were trying to quote, so I deleted all of it. Please don't quote entire posts when a snippet will do.

Edited by - hardware on 5/16/2007 9:44:25 PM

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I propose that the name pornstud that refers to male peformers to be changed to porn pig. I also propose every single male performer to be called a pig equal to her female counterpart. Please support me in this very important movement.

Leglover1000

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Hip hop artist use the word "nigga" in reference to black people. it is very different than the word "nigger" used by mostly white people to insult black people. Please note the difference.

BTW RAms have you seen Zafira videos on Hot Legs and Feet? If you have not, I think you should check it out!

Leglover1000

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some male porn star call themselves "Male whore" (after all they get paid too)

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