She gives me pleasure no gauge can measure

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There were times, I was very moral. Anybody seen my "m"?

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My kingdom for a faceful of girl juice.

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I would have thought Ten Little Piggies may have gone pretty heavy on that.

Why should pussy eating be a niche thing anyway? It's more of an everyay sex act than many of the outrageous things commonplace in porn.

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In the words of the song "99% of gargoyles look like Bob Todd"

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(My English don't help me to express my thoughts correctly)

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In the opening minutes of "squirting 101", Amber Simpson is sitting on a couch when Dillon decides to dive under her skirt and start licking her.

Both of them have their clothes on, no genitalia are seen for almost the entire shot, yet the interaction is intensely erotic. You can't see what his tongue is doing, just the back of his head as he kneels on the floor in front of her with his face buried between her thighs. Amber's reactions, both voice and body language, are delightful. It's a shot that would give anyone wood, yet she doesn't even expose a nipple.

It can be done.

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-T.C.

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Not that I've seen a guy's face in porn for months...The disembodied cock has been perfected, I'd be surprised that it couldn't be done with a tongue.

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-T.C.

Comstock Films: Smut For People Who Like Sex

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No it can't. And suggesting that it can be is irresponsible!

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What about the lesbians films then ?

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I think that's not the problem.Some guys do like pussylicking, some others don't as in real life.
Have ever think how many people like it but they can't find it at most films ?

Edited by - pire on 1/5/2005 7:04:41 PM

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Why should the principle "Keep the customed SATISFIED" be untrue just in porn?

But well, if you're not into it yourself you better don't do it. Just don't prevent others from giving pussy aficionados what they need and I'm happy.

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Try looking elsewhere for what you seek. You will not find it in porn.

-T.C.

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But maybe you're right about me. I like women, I like sex, I like pussy... but that doesn't mean I was ever loved or kissed by a women... it doesn't mean that I ever had sex or that I know how to ask for it. It doesn't mean I ever saw a pussy anywhere else than on the screen. So I think I qualify even for your definition of a porn consumer. But I know what I'm into, even if I don't get it.
I dare to say your definition is not all false, but much too narrow.

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I have not had the pleasure of seeing one of his movies, but from the reviews I have read I suspect both of us would like them.

Come on Tony, now you've had your fun with us yokels, how about some straight talk? We are at least potential customers.

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More straight talk:

Yesterday I asked Loraine if she could see her own clit (if she pulled her legs up and spread her lips with her fingers.) I won't reveal her answer, but I will tell you that asking her the question was more than an excuse to get her to tell me about her pussy.

In any scene, why the camera is pointed at what it is pointed it is a crucial question. When the scene is a pussy eating scene, whether or not the woman eaten can see her own clit, and what position she has to be in to see it is a crucial bit of information.

-T.C.

Edited by - TonyC on 1/5/2005 9:18:34 PM

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If I understand you correctly about what a reaction shot is, then I think that is what I liked about the Amber Simpson scene that I described above.

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Getting back to the question of where is the [good] pussy eating, the scenes I consider to be good are the ones where the participants are aroused and focused on getting each other off. This may be easier to find in a scene with two women, without the gender power dynamics that are all too present in gonzo. In most features, there is usually little effort spent on capturing any real female pleasure - if it looks and sounds faked or over-acted, it probably is.

Here is an excerpt I got in an email today from a women responding to a casting call:

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For research purposes I've just taken another look at a nice scene from Nina Hartley's Guide To Sex - Younger Women/Older Men. Part of the scene has a wonderful pussy eating session.A quick view on why it works for me. The scene involves Nina, Sophie Evans and Jay Crew. Nina eats Sophie, Nina is enthusiastic, talented with her mouth, she knows how to explore, lick, suck etc with finesse (many guys would do well to watch her technique, it's very good) and would seem to be genuinely enjoying what she's doing.

The scene is shot from over Nina's shoulder and off to one side a little, okay Sophie is spreadeagle but the view of her pussy is pretty well unimpeded and yes I know seeing the back end of Nina Hartley or the back of her head is not like seeing a guys head...the other thing that works for me is that Jay is at Sophie's head end just cradling her,kissing and caressing her, both of them watching Nina do her stuff. Sophie can relax and enjoy it without having to "tend" to anyone else, which seems to be the standard porn setup. In any other film it would have been mandatory for Sophie to have been engaged with Jay's cock or it just wouldn't have porn.

Jay and Nina swap places, and now Sophie licks at Nina while Nina straddles her facing back to Jay, the camera manages to fit all this in frame beautifully and move between action satisfyingly for this viewer. It's worth viewing. Maybe I need to see it just one more time for verification of all the details?

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Licker the beer commercial is bad, it caused a stir of revulsion if I remember. Nina's film works on lots of levels,it has a very relaxed, fun feel to it. It's very watchable. I did a review of it, although for some reason my enthusiasm for it doesn't come through in the review, I must have been having an off day.Review

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Oddly enough the most arousing example of cunnilingus I've seen was performed by Jenna Jameson, who didn't give a damn about opening up for the camera and just got in and clamped on like her life depended on it. It was also shot more from the recipient's POV, looking down there at Jenna's cheeks sinking in and out with that suction action. Good gawd!

Not sure how this would work for most male viewers however ;)

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I like Nina's stuff, it's real and therefore hot as hell :)

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I'm a bit surprised. I found myself quite concerned for the tongue as it was crossing the road, almost as if I was worried it would go tharn in the headlights.

Crossing the floor in the party scene had that effect too, like Bambi in a room full of godzillas.

I'm just a pushover for small defenceless creatures I guess.

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As far as the independent confirmation on technique goes, don't get me wrong, the pointy tongue can be put to good use but as you know, there's more,so,so much more than tongue flick method.

Going back to earlier ideas on the subject and something that got brought up in the sex talk forum a couple of days ago -- I think women who watch porn can be just as particular about the specifics of what they want to watch, any old pussy eating scene won't do, the details have got to be right for us personally.

Just like the guys who want to see a blow job performed in a particular way, wet/not so wet, hands used/no hands, deep throated/shallow blow job, eye contact/eye contact with the camera, the same complexity of preferences can hold true for what women want to watch. I don't think men and women are really so different. It's nice if occasionally we can find something to watch that fits with our experiences and our fantasies.Even nicer if it's something you can watch with a sweetheart.

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It can also be good at the beginning for gently parting the labia for the first time. I often like to do that with the tip of my nose though. There is a little burst of heat and scent when the petals first open that is absolutely wonderful.

Later on I like to have my lips very lightly wrapped around her clitoris so I can gently suck it in and out of my mouth. I find this gives her some control of how intense she wants things to be. She can push herself against my face to tell me if she wants more suction. I keep my tongue just behind my lips so that if she thrusts hard enough the tip of her clitoris will touch it. That also makes it easy for her to signal if she wants more contact.

Whew! I've been celibate for a year and it's really starting to get to me!

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The other thing I can't understand is why it's always such a dry business on film? There's nothing hotter than a guy with a mischievous grin on a face slick with wetness looking up at you.

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Are you suggesting simply sitting back and letting a couple perform cunnelingus simply for the sake of their own pleasure, with no particular concern for time or "opening up the action", and then sort of just shoot what you can get, with a special eye towards moments of authentic pleasure, and physcial and emotional connection? I don't know buddy, that sounds pretty crazy to me. But you know, it's just so crazy it might work. It would certainly have to be better than that stupid "Oh yeah, oh yeah" crap we see now.

In fact, if it would work for cuntsucking, it just might work for cocksucking and assfucking and maybe even plain old pussy fucking! And if we added a second camera, then maybe those ellusive reaction shots wouldn't be so hard to capture and edit after all. We could even shoot it on film.

OMG this would be so cool! I can just see it now. People caught in the act of enjoying real sex, shot in a way that allow the editor to cut the scene together with a natural flow that didnt break the mood. And if it could be capture with the majesty of film instead of videotape, hoe lee shit wouldn't that be something. Just imagine hardcore that looked like The Sopranos instead of a cheap Paraguian soap opera. Wow! Wouldn't that be hot.

Is anybody doing something like this?

-T.C.

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