This c-clamp trick looks interesting, could you possibly link to a photo of this configuration?

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While you are there, do a forum search on the phrase "Hands Free" and you'll get all kinds of ideas, including some of the PVC holders guys have fashioned out of plumbing parts from the hardware store.

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That's a story for the grand-children.

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When you are ready for some REAL Frankensex tricks, I'll post pictures of how I modded my Tera Patrick P&A unit after the P&A just became a gash. It ain't a pretty sight, but those ass cheeks actually feel like really nice boobs when I was done with them!

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I think a trip to the hardware store is in order this week-end...

Edited by - Joey Starr on 3/30/2006 3:27:02 AM

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Hey, wonder if there's a commercial concept there?

"Ho Depot"
"Ass Hardware"

Hmmmmmmmm........

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I'm all for the visual aspects of the P&A units. I'd be quite happy if ILF (makers of Fleshlight) would come up with something with all the features of a FLeshlight but that looked like a P&A unit. Till then, I'll stick to my clamp method.

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The nice thing about the P&A is that it stays put, I know how to place it easily in a position I know will be comfortable, and it feels good. I have other issues with it, but it's beside the point for the discussion here.

I like the FL, I think it's great in many respects, and I've endorsed it to others. I'd like it better if I could put it in a spot I'd find comfortable and sturdy, but I haven't figured out where that would be yet.

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I should turn that into a poll...

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First off, as you have probably read in most reviews, this thing is huge. I expected this, but was still surprised at the size of the box when I got it. The entire package was over 13 pounds!

Because this thing is so big (I mean, it is a life size ass after all), you have to be careful and carry it with two hands. For setup purposes, I set the ass on a pillow and started to fuck the vaginal opening. Both holes feel about the same to me. However the anal entry is better because you don't have as much ass cheek blocking your hips, so you can essentially thrust more of your dick inside.

I am so used to my Jenteal missionary style pussy and ass and this was a big change. You can't really lay on the ass cheeks, which is to be expected. So in a sense, this thing is a lot harder to fuck. You have to do more work to keep the correct angle of attack going.

I then moved the ass to the edge of the bed and stood up and started fucking it that way. This is possibly the best way to fuck it, but the angle of entry is still about 45 degrees downward. You also have to stand up, which I don't like. I like laying down. The ass can work hands free in both positions, but it is also fun to grab onto the cheeks and slap them. I got enjoyment out of this.

Now while you can fuck this thing hands free, it still is not as good as fucking one of the missionary style products hands free because I found the harder I went at the doggie style P&A, the more it would tend to move forward away from me, whereas my missionary P&A doesn't move at all and I can really thrust my dick up in there hard -- not the case with the doggie style P&A, at least not a way that I have found yet. I ended up cumming into the anal entry.

Now this is where my biggest gripe begins. This thing is a BITCH to clean! After you have an orgasm, there is nothing better you'd like to do than some cleaning. I carried the sucker over to my bathroom sink, where I normally clean my other sex toys, but this thing was bigger than the freakin sink. It could hardly fit under the faucet to rinse! So I ended up getting in the bathtub with it and basically gave the damn thing a bath. Once that was over, I had to get a large towel to dry it because of it's size. This wasn't so bad except for the vagina and anus, which were bitches to dry out. I'm not sure exactly how to dry these little holes out effectively yet, so if someone has a suggestion, please post it.

A couple other notes I would like to add are that I found myself using a bit more lube than usual. I actually had to apply more lube in the middle of my session. And finally, the vagina opening already showed a small sign of ripping after my first use. The anus looks OK though. I assume this is normal, since the holes are so small to begin with.

Pros and cons:

PROS: Life size ass, the feelings of both the vagina and anus are satisfactory, ass cheeks are a lot of fun to grab and slap.

CONS: The large size of the ass makes it a bitch to clean as well as store and handle. It also seems this product takes up a lot of lube. Angle of attack makes this product harder to fuck than missionary style products.

Conclusion: I haven't been blown away by this product like most people who have used it have. It might even be a little disappointing, but I'll wait to make that judgment after several more trials with it. Because of the relaxed position laying on top of and the aggresiveness I can go at a missionary style product with, I still prefer missionary style P&A's over this doggie style P&A. Plus, the mish style P&A's are easier to clean.

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Any recommendations? I love all my FLeshlights (9 right now) simply because they ALL will accomodate me without me peeking out of the end.

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Could you give me your personal tips on how you fuck your Tera Patrick P&A and also how you clean it? Thanks.

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As for cleaning and care, my experience almost matched yours. I'd have to clean it in the kitchen sink as that was the only place big enough to accomodate it's size. I'd also pre-warm it by wrapping it under the electric blanked on my bed (I hate cold sex toys). I'd talc it very thoroughly afterwards to keep it non-tacky. And to clean out the orifices, I'd use a douche-bottle filled with warm water and flush it out. Never used soap or oils of any kind, just water-based lube. So I treated it with TLC and the thanks I got was nothing but rips for my trouble....sassy gal if you ask me. :-)

As for using it, I only used it either standing up beside the bed (I've a tall bed) or lying on it/squatting behind it. I did use it on the couch a few times with the wife holding it while I did it, alternating with my wife giving me oral. That was actually the best position, but I think it's because wifey helped and it's a leather couch so we got a good grip with it.

Good luck with yours, I hope it's more durable than Tera was for me.

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While it is awesome to have a full size ass at my disposal, which feels good and the ass cheeks are a lot of fun to grab, squeeze, and slap, the entire thing is entirely too big for me and I do not like the increased chore of cleaning it (as opposed my missionary P&A's) and storing it (I live in an apartment).

So if someone would like to take this thing off my hands, I would be more than willing to sell it at a greatly reduced price (I paid a ton for this thing). I know this sounds ridiculous, with it being a used sex toy, but I have only used it 3 times and have cleaned it thoroughly with anti-bacterial soap. This sucker is seriously as good as new and I still have all of the original packaging it came in untouched, as well as the shipping materials. So it would be a snap for me to send it to someone.

If anyone is interested, please e-mail me at tower621ihatespam@gmail.com and we can talk about it. Please remove the "ihatespam" part of the email address. So if any of you out there have wanted to try one of these coveted full sized doggie style pussy and asses, but were deterred by the high price, here is your chance to get a pratically new one for dirt cheap. Also, if anyone has any recommendations of a site (eBay?) or forum where I can sell this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Edited by - tdb on 4/9/2006 12:19:58 AM

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If you don't get takers here, try www.dollforum.com again. They have a For Sale section. You're more likely to sell it if you're an active member of the Forum because people are more likely to trust you. Most people are more worried about being ripped off than anything else.

I think anyone who's bought more than a couple of toys has found things they didn't like. The Fleshlight was the first one I bought that I did like, and the P&A was the second. The rest were various types of junk.

It's a shame you can't rent these things to test drive them. They're so expensive that the $ risk is just too high for most people to even try something. There are things I'd love to try, but I don't want to invest (what to me is) a substantial amount of money to find out I don't like it. And sex toys just aren't the sort of things you want to share...

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Seriously, running rubbing alcohol thru the canals will kill anything, safer than bleach as well as it won't bleach out the pigments sometimes used in these things.

For the guys with good P&A units (missionary style), which one has the longest usable canal on the market? The three I've bought don't go past 5" or so, too short for me. I'd be willing to try one again if I could find one with a long enough canal, say 9" to give me some thrusting room. Then I could bury myself inside of it as opposed to popping out the back of it. Any recommendations?

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Always willing to help,
Chico

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Anyone got anything new, or a review of something you bought fairly recently but haven't discussed?

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I just received my first Fleshlight in the mail today. It is the Fleshlight Wonder Wave with Lady entry. The material is very soft, probably the softest of all the toys I've tried. I also like the suction feature. However, I did not realize how much lube this thing takes. It takes A LOT of lube -- about double what all my other toys take. This is the third hand-assisted masturbator I have tried and I just don't think I can get into masturbators that are not hands-free.

I will probably be searching for more stand alone vaginas which you can set down on a pillow or flat surface and fuck hands free. Those to me are by far the best feeling. I switched to the Fleshlight because I think I might be hurting my neck/upper back by using the stand alone vaginas too much in the way I angle my body to watch my DVDs. But who knows, it might be psychological.

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I think it's a lot of fun - it's just wonderfully decadent and over the top having a full size plastic ass to play with.

I've lots of other toys, but this one is almost unique in its appeal, and cheaper now that memories of Julie as a working star are fading.

I think all the "realistic" toys are novelties rather than viable alternatives to the real thing, but viewed as such this one is well worth it in my opinion.

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Well I'll be placing an order for "Juli" as soon as I get over shelling-out the cash. $169.00 for J.A.+ free shipping. [Adam & Eve]$ Sale on all toys!. 16 ounce's of "I-D Glide" $19.95 - 2-dozen condoms $12.90 plus some sales taxes totaling $203.00 . I'm now deciding on just the right smooth pre-stretching dildo/s & sizes and plenty of mildly-scented baby powder to kill the fresh-factory [UR3] scent. Anything else I should know; new-model/s that can compare to "Juli" or are there about to be improvements to "UR3 Pussy & Asses"? I'm not a big fan of of Juli in particular.

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yes, the majority of guys that I know who buy these kinds of toys use them as a surrogate, not an addition to a girlfriend or wife. (But I do know a few people who use them with their wifes/gf's for fantasy purposes.) Typically they're either in a relationship with a person who can't or won't satisfy their sex drives, or they have no relationship at all because of social issues (frustration or anger) with women. Some of that group of people are not physically attractive or lack self-confidence so they have more than the normal amount of trouble finding a woman. Some have deeply routed psychological problems that interfere with their personal relationships. Either way, they find that a rubber pussy or a sex doll is a nice change from using a hand or a mattress.

I know a couple of people who simply have rubber/plastic/balloon fetishes, but I think they're a small minority of the group.

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Thanks

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Edited by - OneLouder on 1/6/2007 7:56:04 PM

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The material on the Devon model is softer and more realistic feeling when compared to the Jenteal model. Also, as someone mentioned in this thread or in another thread regarding these P&A's, the "skin" which separates the vaginal and anal canals on the Devon model is noticably thicker, BUT after about 10 uses with this thing, it's about to break on my Devon model as well. I am either too rough with these things or using them the wrong way. Anyway, I expect in the next few uses, the skip to finally rip in half and the vaginal and anal canals to become one.

As of right now, this model is a little bit better than the Jenteal model, only because the material is softer. I liked the angle of the thighs on the Jenteal model a little bit better. It feels like she is wrapping around you more. I still prefer these hands-free standalone P&A's over the wildly popular Fleshlight. I seem to get a lot more stimulation and powerful ejaculations out of them.

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Am I using these toys as a substitute for the real thing? Hell yes. I'm single and it is unrealistic to expect sex every night with a real woman. This does not mean I don't consider getting a real woman, but when one is not around to please me, I use these toys.

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Mine hasn't torn, but I haven't used it very much--maybe a dozen times in the couple years now that I've owned it. I'm not sure if I got a better one (unlikely) or if I'm just easier on it than other people.

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The more expensive ones are silicone dolls, and they'll look more like guys. The more money you spend, the better they'll look. But they're very expensive, very heavy, they not that durable (Realdoll fingers and toes are notorious for breaking easily, tears develop at stress points, and if you don't store them properly they get flat spots), and they're cold (unless you keep them under an electric blanket). And they don't move, so you may think you're screwing a corpse.

If you want an expensive a toy, look into getting a Sybian instead. Basically a motorized, mountable dildo/vibrator. Pricey but a lot of people love them.

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I've heard of people using them for this purpose, but I don't know if it's legit or just making excuses. Like buying a vibrator--gee, my muscles really are sore! Yeah, sure they are.

Can't hurt to practice, though.

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Edited by - Kush on 1/9/2007 11:57:42 AM

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I agree with whoever it was recommended a Sybian. You could check out the DVD 'The Greatest Female Orgasms Ever'. This will show you how effective the thing is. Sure, porn stars are probably as good at faking as any woman will be, but I really doubt there's much faking going on here. Even Jenna Jameson, who seems to be overacting at first, then gets taken by surprise at what she's feeling. Anyway, if any woman asked for the ideal pseudo-man toy, I'd recommend the Sybian. It's still a bit big, and you don't have that much freedom to arrange it in different positions, but a male doll would presumably be best ridden, and that's how the Sybian works too.

As for your earlier question, I've used an inflatable doll. I didn't have a partner and didn't want one, so I thought I'd try a different style of masturbation. Basically, it felt like I was fucking an inflated generally woman-shaped inanimate object. It didn't seem even slightly 'real'. It's a different sort of masturbation in that I was using a lot more of the muscles used in sex, so it's a bit more full-body, but it didn't appeal to me.

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I'm glad other people are writing. For awhile there it seemed like every other message on this thread was mine.

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I think you'd have to really like whatever the material is to like inflatables. It has a distinct smell, as well as the very non-flesh texture. As a gag gift, fine, but as a genuine sex toy, definitely go for the higher priced stuff.

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I saw this, which looks like it might be similar: Catlina's Cat in a Can Stroker. You have to take it out of the can so I suppose you can't do the suction thing (unless you plug it). I have no idea how idea how good or bad it is, but it's certainly cheap enough ($9 US), and Cyberskin is a lot better than old-school vinyl.

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