In an effort to save my neck and spine from prolonged usage of these missionary P&A's, I have decided to try another FleshLight insert. This time, I have ordered a Ultra Tight Butt. It is pretty tight. I was actually cracking up when I first tried to put my dick inside it. At first it was almost so tight that it was a little painful.
I was hoping that this model of the FleshLight would give me a lot more stimulation, especially in the head area of my dick, than my Wonder Wave Lady. Unfortunately I do not think that is the case.
I am pretty disappointed with the Ultra Tight. It eats up lube like nobody's business. After my initial lube up, I had to re-lube the damn thing 3 times during my 30 minute session with it. After 30 minutes, I finally gave up on it and went back to my Devon UR3 P&A and got off inside it.
I guess I am just not used to the sensation of the various FleshLights and also don't like the fact that I am basically holding a "pussy in a can" and having to fuck myself manually. I find it much more stimulating and pleasing to just pound away at a hands-free missionary P&A on my bed. The only downside to using those missionary P&A's, for me at least, is that I am not in a very ergonomic position because I like to prop my head up on pillows to watch my display playing my various DVDs.
For those of you who use missionary style P&A's on a regular basis, what is your setup for prolonged usage? And for your FL users, do you have any tips on making the lube last longer and making a FL session more stimulating?
If you scroll or search this thread, somewhere there's a link to a Fleshlight user site. They may have specific suggestions on what to do.
I've had similar complaints about the FL. The inner canal on mine is smooth and it doesn't hold lube, so you keep having to stop and add more, which is not what I want to be doing. I heard the one with the textured inserts hold lube better, but I never bought one so I have no personal experience.
I have seen contraptions people made to hold the FL in place. Saw one made of PVC pipe, and it goes underneath the computer desk for hands free operation. I have no idea how well that would work.
One of the better ones I saw was where someone made something that looked kind of like a mannequin torso, and it was placed and held in the right spot. Looked interesting, but never made one.
My P&A doesn't get a lot of use. It has zero ground clearance so if you put it on the bed or the floor, you pretty much have to lay across the top of it. I put mine on a sofa cushion or two to bring it up to a more comfortable height, but like you I end up craning my neck to see the tv. I could put a magazine on the floor, but then you have to stop to turn pages. One of those portable DVD players would probably work (put it on the floor in front of you), but I don't own one.
Decent results from putting the P&A on the desktop, back when I used to have interesting chats with people, but the desk is just a wee bit too high. Weird, but small variations in height make a big differnce to stuff like this.
Hopefully someone else will have good suggestions.
The other insert I own is a Wonder Wave. This is a textured insert and holds lube MUCH better than my non-textured insert. It also feels a lot better.I have tried this method and while it is better on the neck and back, I don't like using the smaller screen and speakers. I like to watch my porn on a big display with good sound.
I looked all over but turned up nothing. It surprises me there's no forum that gets into the subject of sex toys. There's some talk on the Fleshlight site, but that's limited to Fleshlights, and doll site is mainly about dolls, and they're usually more interested in sharing photographs of them or advice on fixing rips and tears.
This seems to be it. Considering the number of different models, a lot of them must be sold. You'd think there'd be more talk about them. But maybe the people who buy them tend to be lurkers, too.
Do you guys use condoms when using the doc johnson vaginas? I've never used anything like this before but would like to try. Seems like fleshlight is all the rage, but I really want something hands free and can't be bothered to engineer something for the fleshlight. So it's going to be a UR3 for me. I'm just thinking which one to get? Anybody have any comments on Jenna's vibrating vagina and ass? It's a missionary style one and goes for about $250 Canadian. Do all of the UR3 ones from the different girls feel essentially the same?
Me and the Mrs. like it bareback. It just ain't the same when you have to wear a raincoat.
Seriously, since it can't get pregnant and I'm the only one who uses it, I don't use a condom. I'm not sure what the point of wearing one would be, unless you just like the feel of it. You still need lube, so you still have to clean it afterward anyway.
I only have one (a Cassidey missionary style) so I can't compare. I believe most are very similar, what differs are the visuals (missionary style or doggie style), whether you're getting one entry or two (Cassidey has two. They feel the same internally but the angles of attack are different, and the visuals are different), and whether it's molded after a real girl or it's just a generic pussy or anus. If they molded it from a real girl, the price his higher.
I heard that one the super-premium ones, like the Kobe Thai ($300+ in the US), that it really is better interally, but the differences are subtle.
I always advise people to start with something less expensive unless you're already sold on something in particular. UR3 P&As are notorious for having the two entries tear and combine into one big entry, which is great if you're hung like a mule but bad otherwise. Mine hasn't done it, but I've heard numerous other complaints from people who have. You probably don't want to spend $200 on a sex toy that's ruined after a dozen uses.
I'd suggest getting a single-entry model that looks decent, is hands free, and won't clean out your bank account. If you like it, you can spend more on a better model later. If you don't like it, you can spend your money on something else next time.
Hey thanks for the reply. Just one thing I don't get is why being hung like a horse is better if the two entries combine into one and not be good for someone average sized. I'm average sized by the way. So it would be better if the two entries didn't combine? Why?
If they combine into one, you end up with one huge tunnel of love, which cuts down the tightness and friction. Most people (that I know of, anyway) prefer a snug fit over a sloppy one.
I'm thinking of getting the Cassidey UR3 one too as it seems to be the cheapest. Do you have any complaints about it? If you were to able to start again, which would you get?
I'll just put this here since it's as good a place as any. I stumbled on this site today and thought it was funny, The Sarcastic Sex Toy Blog. Good observations about the Kobe Thai P&A.
Also this: Curiosities from Japan's porno shops, particularly the story where he talks about the beer can sex toy, and the "afterward" feeling. Boy, have I been there. I call that a "WTF am I doing?" moment.
Don't know if anyone else ever had that, but I have (and still do).
I recommend the Briana Banks mold. It was tight and fleshy. I used my rod and a dildo to have a double vag penetration on the Briana Banks mod and it was hot. I know I know...I've been watching too much porn.
you dont have to build something for hands free, you have enough around the house to do it
Get 1 belt 1 pillow 1 towel
fold the towel in half the long way roll the pillow up the short way wrap the towel tight around the rolled pillow put the belt around it to keep it all in place
now you can stick your FL in there so the oriface is the only part outside the pillow
just prop it up at the angle you like with a blanket and you can grip the pillow thing with both hands and give it doggie style, or no hands, whatever you like. you can also go on your side and spoon it
I was fairly active in the Fleshlight Forums for awhile...was even a moderator over there for awhile. I've done all kinds of things to modify my various Fleshlights (I own 11, pretty much all combo's they sell).
The best experience for me is when my wife uses one on me. Yes, we both enjoy sex toys and they work their way into our "role play" times. But I also travel extensively and so I take one with me on many trips. The absolute best way, IMHO, to use a Fleshlight SOLO is in hands-free fashion. There are litereally dozens of ways to do this, the above poster gave one example. But I've found the best hands-free method makes use of a simple "vise-grip" kind of device. These things are sold in all kinds of hardware stores....basically a C-clamp with a hand grip for ratcheting the pressure down one handed. With one of these you can affix your FL in the case to just about any surface....desktops, tabletops, chair legs, bedposts, whatever. The height and angle of attachment are totally up to your creativity and imagination.
I still laugh looking back at Jayo's post about the "shoe method." Yeah, that works, but you feel stupid doing it. With the C-clamp method, you can affix the FL, lube up and go to town and then when done the C-clamp just goes back to the workbench and nobody is the wiser.
As for lube use and sensation....I've always liked the SpeedBump texture the best. The SuperRibbed is pretty intense as well.
I have modified two UltraTight inserts. These things are so tight, and I'm fairly equipped, that they just do nothing for me other than cause me to go numb. But with a cheese grater (on one) and using a very narrow sander bit (on another) I got some pretty amazing textures out of the things.
Otherwise, I don't recommend the UT inserts at all...far too constricting.
The combos of internal textures and colors, or including different "entries?" I never understood what difference the entries made. It's entirely cosmetic, and only suggests a "vagina" or "anus" in its look anyway. Considering it's round and stays in its plastic can, it's not like you can look at it and fantasize much. The visuals are pretty bad.
Although it's somewhat subjective, I find that the different orifices do, indeed, feel different.
There are 4 different orifices/entries available: Lady, Butt, Non-Descript and Mouth
There are 5 different textures available: Smooth, WonderWave, SuperRibbed, SpeedBump, StaminaTrainingUnit (similar to a SpeedBump). There's also UltraTight, but that's by definition smooth...just tight.
There are also 2 diameters of inserts: Standard and Super Tight. The SuperTight insert is available in smooth texture and, by definition, all the "textured" inserts are SuperTight in diameter. The Standard diameter inserts are the largest (loosest feeling) inserts they sell, and by definition, they are all smooth...not available in textures.
Now here's where the orifices make a difference.....mainly when used hands-free. When you penetrate each one, the orifice behaves slightly differently. The Lady (vagina) orifices are the easiest to penetrate and provide little to any resistance. They provide basically a "funnel entry" and so you just push in and go. Because the material stays in "funnel" form, they offer virtually no "outstroke" resistance so more air can enter the canal when you thrust. As a result, the entire experience is the "loosest" of all the inserts. If you are built smaller and/or couple the Lady orifice with a Standard canal smooth insert, this really makes for a loose experience. By the way, the one-click order for "Original Pink Lady," their most popular seller for years, is a Lady orifice on a Standard canal.....so IMHO, it's the worst combo out there unless you have a large pecker with a girth of larger than 4-5".
The butt orifice, obviously, provides the most resistance at penetration. When used hands free, you can quite literally feel your cockhead "pop" thru the opening, not that dissimilar to what you feel during anal sex with a partner. But beyond that, the small entry then forms a fairly tight seal onto your shaft, allowing very little air to enter the canal while you thrust. Therefore, overall, it provides the tightest feeling during use....almost too tight for me (I'm 8" and about 5.5" in girth). But for a lot of users, it's the tightest. Couple it with an UltraTight insert and it's damn near like fucking a garden hose to me, but some guys swear by this insert.
The mouth is very similar to the Lady orifice, but the "funnel" is much shallower. Otherwise, they feel almost the same to me. In fact if you turn the mouth insert to a vertical position, it even BEHAVES like a Lady orifice during use. A little tighter sensation, but otherwise not that different.
Of all the orifices, the Non-Descript is, oddly enough, the most interesting and enjoyable. First off, it has far more material up front, giving it a lot more "cushion for the pushin" if you will. The slot is also unique in that it forms a fairly airtight seal around your shaft once you have penetrated it with the added effect of "curling" the orifice around your shaft on the outstroke...literally hugging your cock. If you watch enough porn, you'll see this when a woman's pussy is rather tight for her partner and the labia "hugs" his shaft while they fuck. That's the sensation the Non-Descript provides. Couple it with a texture of your choice and it's very pleasureable, particularly when used hands-free.
Long post, sorry about that, but thought you might like to hear a "collectors" perspective. For my money, a N/D with a SpeedBump texture is a pretty amazing thing. Get them in clear if you can so you get the added visual stimulii of watching how deep you can stroke.
Mods I've done:
-Added O-rings to the bottom cap to ensure the thing doesn't rattle during use and, when completely tightened, makes a vacuum.
-Added retaining rings/bushings to the opening of the containers so that the inserts don't get sucked in by said vacuum.
-Installed one-way 02 valves on all my cases so that I can adjust the air pressure to said vacuum. Fucking a vaccum isn't very pleasurable, but allowing for exact control lets you "tighten up" the insert when you are getting close to popping, making it very unique. Also lets you vary the intensity of the textures during use. More air=less stimulation, less air=insert bears down on your shaft and cockhead.
-Various self-texture mods to smooth inserts. One of them has heavy texture at the opening, just behind the orifice, no texture except for a rough area that is 3" in and on top (simulates a G-spot...I made it match my wife's anatomy so I could practice "hitting" her G on my downstrokes with the device) and then rings of heavy texture deep inside the insert where my cockhead would hit duirng full insertion. It's quite realistic feeling now, my favorite actually. All these mods were made to a Lady orifice SuperTight smooth insert. I've also modded smooth textures with different rings of alternating grooves/patterns and applied textures with cheese graters, scouring pads, drill bits (super heated so their grooves would imprint onto the insert..melted one doing this tho) and even a large-diameter machine bolt (again, super heated). Turning an insert inside-out and using a cheese grater gave the best results.
We should list out some prime examples of what are the WORST possible sex toys out there.
That monstrosity is, I think, supposed to resemble a pair of titties with a mouth/tongue to slide into. But frankly, I wouldn't fuck that with my finger let alone my dick.
It's not even a cock, it's just the head...Men, have you ever wanted to slip your hard cock into a grenade? You'll explode with delite as you're being penetrated by thousands of shrapnel fragments...That is disturbing.
ROFLMFAO....seriously, that's hilarious.Perhaps....but given the thread views it gets, I'm betting we've got guys out there who are saying, "Dayum, I can't believe I actually bought me one of those!"
Just adding this to the thread since we've been talking about Fleshlights. ILF (makers of Fleshlight) have launched a new series of Fleshlights with the orifices modeled after several popular website models. Check it out here. These are the same as "normal" Wonderwave Fleshlights, but with new custom fronts to them. There was always a demand for different looking pussy lips and I know that one of the louder complaints I've heard about Fleshlights in general is that they don't "look" real. While it's not the same as full-size replica, it's a good start IMHO....and it's still a Fleshlight!
The booby balls on a sleeve concept is a killer, reminds me of those boggle eyed gold fish. Lube was nice enough to post a link to the Fleshlight vid page the other day (thanks L) I liked this one mostly because I found the action of the sleeve- mouth completely mesmerising. I'm a bit conflicted about the watching the Fleshlight films, not that they aren't fun but what I personally find one of the very sexiest things about watching a man play, is the sight of his hand on his cock. I like to see faces too. I'm very happy though, that there a nice, good quality toys for fellows to play with that go well beyond the crappy "novelty items that get sold as sex toys.
Interesting movie, Lub. I missed that link, so thank you, Lorraine, for putting it here. Maybe it's different with a partner or if you're going to film it like that, but as a solo act, I never understood what the attraction was to the mouth of the fleshlight, since the visuals would likely be obscurred. Maybe a lot of guys are looking there at the time, but I usually have my attention focussed on a movie or the computer screen.
You are welcome for the Link, Loraine. It's such a dichotomy of standards out there for sex toys. Too many people view sex toys for men vs. women like this.
"This question is directed to those of you that purchase these sex toys in the mail to fuck. Have you ever considered getting a real woman? Or do you prefer the orifice alone?" My gf and I have been together for 7 years, and she is up for just about anything sexually. We are both active in our local BDSM communities, as well. She is always ready to have sex. To me, masturbation is different than sex with another person. It is a personal thing you do along with your fantasies. There are times that I want to have sex with my gf, and other times that I like to masturbate. She's not always around when I'm horny, either. Sex toys provide different sensations than a hand or vibrator does.
I'm tired of starting new threads that go nowhere, so I'll just continue an old sub-thread here. Some messages ago, we were talking about weird/goofy toys for guys. I found this: Monkey Spanker. Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't look pleasant. (With the current dollar-exchange rate, I'm not finding out any time soon, either.)
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Let those who don't want none cherish the memories of not gettin' any! 46 Posts 11/07
Posted - Dec 26 2007 : 3:40AM
I once tried the Carmen Luvana cyberflesh doggie style pussy and ass. What was this thing made for, a young kid with a tiny dick? I couldn't penetrate it and when I finally did the damned thing tore on me. $200 down the drain. I chucked it and haven't bothered with others since. Any similar products where the openings aren't so tight? "Be like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich and keep it!"
I remember there was a post somewhere that measured the various P&As, including height, width and canal depths. I'll be damned if I can find it, though. I never had that model. Never had enough products to be able to compare materials, etc. Mine is a Cassidey and it's made of UR3, and I never had a problem with it. I'm about average size, so I suppose it was made for me. I suggest a Fleshlight. They're a lot cheaper, they're quality, you can hold them in your hand if you're so inclined, jam it between a matress and box/spring or between sofa cusions, wrap it in a heavy blanket, or duct tape it onto something. They're very easy to clean, to warm under a tap, and they're somewhat inconspicuous in their canisters (as opposed to a P&A, which is difficult to explain as anything other than what it really is). Plus I've never heard of them tearing the way P&A's often do.
A review of the Tenga Squeeze Play, for anyone who's interested. Background In Japan, if what I read is correct, the Ona-cup is a very hot item among sex toys. An ona-cup basically a single-use, pre-lubricated masturbation sleeve, about the size of a soda can. You buy one, peel off the opening and insert yourself--a "you provide the erection, we do the rest" deal. When you're done you just throw it away. No cleaning, drying, or trying to hide it from nosy parents, siblings, friends, roommates. In Japan, there are a variety of different models, each one supposedly mimics the feeling of a particular act (missionary, cowgirl, blow-job, etc), and they're color-coded with firmness inside. They take these things very seriously. Now while I found that the official Tenga "demo" videos were on YouTube and embedded in all sorts of blogs, including mainstreamers like Boing-Boing and Gizmodo, nobody wants to admit that they actually used it. So I decided to take one for the team and write a first-hand review. What's Available So now Tenga, which seems to be the leader in the field and markets a lot of different onacups, is now exporting two models to the USA: the Squeeze Play and the Blow-Job. The Squeeze Play resembles a big tube of tooth paste, round on the business end and flat on the other. The Blow-Job is more bulbous and looks a bit like a Coke bottle. Both of them look solid on the outside, but are squeezable. Each of these comes in two sizes, the 6.0 and the 8.0. It took some research to find out that this refers to the sizes. The 6.0 is six inches long and about 2-1/2" in diameter at the base. The 7-1/2 inches long and 3 inches in diameter. The 6.0s are sold as "travel size," but I suspect that the 6.0s are the Japanese versions, and the 8.0s are the models that are scaled up for American cocks (the website mentions that the onacups are being re-engineered for the US market). They're also hard to find. My go-to sources for this sort of thing didn't carry it, and I ended up getting it from Amazon (I had no idea they sold sex toys); it'll be interesting to see what my recommendations look like later. Amazon's least expensive was the Squeeze Play 6.0, so I ordered that one. With standard shipping it ran about $17, making it pricey for a single jack-off, IMO. Outside It arrived wrapped in a plastic bag. Once I opened and discarded that, I was left with the unit itself and a little pamphlet with the instructions (peel off the plastic covers) and warnings (don't eat the lube). Tenga claims that it is phthalate-free, and at least out of the bag, it doesn't have any noticable odor. The red and silver striped outside turned out to be a thin plastic wrapping which easily (and must be) pealed off and thrown away, leaving a plain milk-white plastic shell which looked like it could be a soft-soap dispenser. While it isn't guaranteed to get past a visit from nosy guests who are rooting through your bathroom, it doesn't scream "I'm a sex toy" the way most others do. Good going. In Use Peel off the tape over the air vent, and then pull off the plastic cap from the business end. It's pre-lubed with a clear, thick, slightly sticky goo. This kept the lube for pouring out and making a mess when I opened it, at least in the short time between opening and using it. The entry hole is small, but the rubber is soft and very expandable. I found entry slow-going but not difficult: it's snug but comfortable. If you put a finger in it, the beginning of the entry feels like several layers of slim sheets, and the sleeve itself has a lot of nodules inside. With the lube, the friction is cut way down and I couldn't really feel the contours, but it felt pleasant anyway. The Squeeze Play's shape makes it pretty easy to hold and maneuver; besides up and down (or in and out), you can turn and twist it, though I don't think it really changed the feeling. It's easy to drape a finger over the end and plug the hole, and suddenly you get a tight seal and a strong suction. With the hole uncovered, you hear the soft sound of air rushing in and out, like breathing easily through a drinking straw. Cover the hole and you get a loud, wet slurp as the rubber pulls, stretches, and leaks air in through the base. Afterward Onacups are designed for single-uses, so you just finish inside and then throw it away. I took mine to the sink and washed it out instead. I found out that there are several small pieces that are like heavy sponges which appear to be the major source of the lube. They're loose, so you can pick them out and discard them. It seems to me that if you pull the sponges out and wash the Squeeze Play out and dry it thoroughly, you'd be able to use it again. But I don't know how well that will work. One of the worries of these things is that dark, damp places are great breeding grounds for nasty things, and do you really want your dick in there with them? So it's probably just best as a single-use product afterall. Tenga has come out with another, multi-use item which is easily washed and dried anyway. That brings up another question, which is whether a single-use item is so useful anyway. Sure it's nice if you pick it up while you're travelling, bang it at the hotel and throw it out in the room's garbage can. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. But it's pricey for a jerk-off, something you can do for free with your hand or a mattress. Even though you can toss the toy and you don't have spooge to clean up, the toy is well lubed and you'll still need to clean yourself up afterward, or you're going to feel sticky an clammy until you do. Final Verdict For what's intended, I liked it and I would recommend it. It felt good and it was well made. My only real quibble is its price. At around $15, I think it's very expensive as a single-use product, unless you really have some special need for something like this--and I'm hard pressed to think of what that would be. Really, it doesn't offer much that the similarly priced Head Honcho II doesn't offer, and the Honcho is reusable. What you're really buying is something that looks discreet until you use it, and doesn't need to be prepped before or cleaned up afterward. If that's what you're looking for, then this product is a great place to start.
Hands down - errr - I mean pants down - HEAD HONCHO by California Exotics. Disclaimer : Havent tried Fleshlight yet. Have tried plenty others. HEAD HONCHO is BY FAR the BEST. The rest dont even come close. I will give it a 9. The rest I have used will only get a 5 at best. Missionary position masturbators - your search for artificial vagina should end here. If people who use hands find Fleshlight better, I would suggest put it in a hard shell container and then see how it feels. Looks translucent ( like fleshlight ice ) pinkish white. Does not have a outer hard shell though. It is not made of the ubiquitious UR3. Something diferent. I think TV's Doc Johnson recommneded as #1. It is THE BEST. Feels JUST LIKE VAGINA. YOU C A N N O T come any closer to VAGINA sensation. Will try Fleshlight and then say if I was wrong. Just make sure you use some water-basd lube. Requires VERY LITTLE. Doesnt DRY out. Because I am not sure what it is made of, so DO NOT use SILICONE-BASED lubes. While masturbation takes me 15 minutes, it takes less than 5 minutes with this. Great for people who masturbate in missionary position too. Costs 20-30. I have seen in 5 and 6 inches. GREAT JOB CAL EXOTICS. Only request - make the edge on at least one side flat for missionary positioners.
I've owned a Fleshlight and I have a Head Honcho, so I know the difference. The FL is a lot larger and heavier, and it comes in a hard platic case that's modelled to mimic a large flashlight. If you're sneaky and you wanted to do a little work, you could make it look like a flashlight close up, and hopefully you could leave it out and it wouldn't attract attention. Because the FL has the case, you can leave it inside the case, or take it out of the case, and it'll work either way. There are screw caps on each end. If you take the screw cap off the far end, the air moves freely while in use. If you leave the cap on, you can get a suction effect. If you're willing to adjust the screw cap, you can change the suction on the fly. Because it's big and heavy, it works better for hands-free, since you can easily jam it in between seat cushions, or mattresses. You could duct tape it or clamp it onto things. FL's come with a lot of different interior textures. The Head Honcho is a single piece of very stretchy rubber-like stuff. It's much smaller and lighter. The inside is heavily textured: there are a lot of chambers and galleries. The far end is closed so you have to stretch it to expel the excess air when you enter it, and you get suction whether you like it or not. Because it's so small and light, I don't know how you can do hands-free on it without securing it to something. Plus, on the first couple uses it's very snug, so if you slide out of it, you need to stretch it to enter it again. Because the FL is open at both ends, washing is fairly easy because it just sluices out the other end. You do have to let it dry thoroughly outside the plastic case or it'll get moldy. The HH can be turned inside out so it's fairly easy to wash and very easy to thoroughly dry. Not sure about the durability of the HH. Mine's split lengthwise on the inside, and I've used it maybe 6-8 times and I'm not hung like a porn-star. It's still holding together, but I expect it'll break all the way through sooner or later. The big upside is that HH is around $15 and the FL is around $60. So the HH is very affordable, and even if it doesn't last, you can go through four at the same price as an FL. My opinion: I wouldn't discourage people from buying either. They both have their ups and downs.
Can you compare how they each felt on a scale of 1 to 10. Also, current head Honchos have both ends open. So cleaning should be easy. Besides, they come in 3 different sizes - 5, 6.5 and even larger. That should take care of any tearing problem. Anyway, I have used it about 200 times ( 6 months ) and it is holding up well. Maybe they are better made nowadays. I wish they made the VAGINA OPENING in two varieties - SMALL and BIGGER. I like SMALL. You probably like the BIGGER opening of the FL vagina.
I can't directly compare them; they're all different. I thought the Fleshlight was the most versatile but it had a smooth interior and didn't retain lube, which meant that I had to stop and add lube periodically. Supposedly the textured interior ones are better. The P&A, for some reason, is better at retaining lube. I'd use it more but I find it difficult to put it somewhere comfortable to use. It's best when it's setting on something and used hands free. If you want to watch tv or look at a magazine, you have to find a place to put it that allows you to do everything, and I haven't figured that out in my current place. That and I've been too lazy to figure out what to do about it. The Honcho is comfortable and easy to use in a chair, in bed, in the tub, and so on. I had a Tenga Squeeze Play which I liked (a few posts above). It was kind of in-between the Honcho and the Fleshlight. It's biggest drawback is that it's on the small side and some complain it's too small. I'm built average and I was able to squeeze in, but it was a tight fit. The Tenga Egg is interesting. It's cheap, it's easy to clean and you can reuse it. It looks like a hard-boiled egg but it stretches lengthwise, and to some extent it's like fucking a condom. I'm undecided on it. I don't think the "feel" of it is any better (or much differnet) than my bare hand, but I have noticed that I don't last as long, so maybe there's something to it that I'm not aware of. Inflatable dolls: I've discussed this elsewhere. The cheap ones are awful. The expensive ones are better but it really, really helps if you have another fetish that it satisfies (I don't). Generally they're not what people imagine, and since they rarely get discussed, you don't know what to expect or how to deal with it. Solid dolls solve a lot of those problems but I never tried one. Various home made things: usually disappointing. The upside is that usually they can be broken down so you aren't busted if someone finds it. But I never found anything I really liked. Edited by - jayo on 11/7/2010 4:15:49 PM
dude..is getting a woman really that hard for you??? we had family friends who had a son paralyzed waist down due to some birth defect in his backbone...he was ok looking and a brilliant student as well a work out champ..and all we could do is envy his girlfriends who would get from the school and internet chatrooms..back then social networking and dating sites weren't that popular. God knows how he was able to fuck with those non functional legs!
Fat bottomed girls make the rockin' world go round! 1551 Posts 5/09
Posted - Nov 30 2010 : 8:29PM
Two sailors got liberty off an aircraft carrier, in Norfolk, Va. They went to a sex shop in town. There, they saw those artificial vaginas for sale. They each purchased one with the intent of renting them to their shipmates once they got back on board. They split up, once they got back on board their ship. One went to the bow, the other went to the stern, with the intent of meeting in the middle of the ship a month later, to see which one made the most money. A month later..they met in the middle of the aircraft carrier. One asked the other.."so..how much did you make?" The other sailor replied, "Five hundred dollars..how much did you make?" The other sailor replied, "Not a damn thing..the first guy ate the damn thing!" Edited by - dogzcatcher on 11/30/2010 8:30:51 PM
For people who masturbate in MISSIONARY position : After using Super Head Honcho and some Fleshlight vagina sleeves( without the container ), this is how they compare. A) Vagina likeliness in feeling Super Head Honcho (9.5) ; Fleshlight (9) B) Intensity of orgasm Super Head Honcho (9) ; Fleshlight (7) For people who masturbate using hand, I have a feeling that the hard cover of the Fleshlight might be convenient to hold. If that is so, try putting the Super Head Honcho in a can and see if that helps. By the way, lot of Fleshlight-like masturbators are now available that are a lot smaller and lot more easier to handle than Fleshlight. Try JACKMASTER - it opens up along the side for easy cleaning and drying. I think that California Exotics has got the material perfectly right with Super Head Honcho. Now different people will like different textures - some like ribbed, some nodules etc. etc.
