WHO DO THESE GIRLS THINK THEY ARE???

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shoneshon Deactivated User Los Angeles 25 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:15AM Is it just me or are certain girls to good to do anal and face shots, for example, Kira Kerner is a fine ass woman, but she never does facials or anal that I've seen. Does anyone feel what I'm saying. I love Devon she is one of my favorites, but she doesnt do facials for nothing!! I mean this is what you do, porn!! Take one in the face like a real woman does. There should be more Monica Sweetheart's out there, DP, facial, she does it all. [Link]
junglew Senior Member 1042 Posts 12/02	Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:21AM Kira has done at least 3 anals in her movies including the first one. Someone on this list said she did a facial in one of her more recent movies with Joel Lawrence. I have seen the movie but don't recall for sure if she did. She sure likes to avoid it that is for sure. Devon has taken a few facial's including a huge one in one of the Watcher films. Wayne [Link]
SickNick Member 265 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:23AM I think they would do acts like that if they are offered the right amount of money. They are probably asking for an extreme price. [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:23AM Take one in the face like a real woman does Click to expand Hmmm, they do? Is that what makes a real woman? DenverDon [Link]
Dweezil Member 87 Posts 2/01	Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:31AM Shouldn't a person have the right to his or her personal boundaries regardless of occupation? If a lady chooses not to engage in certain activities in adult film that is entirely up to her. Voice your displeasure the best way a consumer can, don't buy her product. FYI Ms. Kener does anal in 2 films (Nurses & Prisoner) and has done a facial in one film (Eye Spy). Devon has done 3 facials (Watcher, New Breed & Hayride Honeys). [Link]

shoneshon Deactivated User Los Angeles 25 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 1:47AM Wow one facial? These girls should take on Peter North, thats all I have to say. [Link]
waterproof Member 452 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 2:02AM what the hell... man, maybe it's one of your favorites but the girls should do what they like. i don't think there aren't enough women out there to satisfy your needs and who would like to see cum drenched women with a daybreak in their eyes ? cheers, waterproof shoneshon wrote: Is it just me or are certain girls to good to do anal and face shots, for example, Kira Kerner is a fine ass woman, but she never does facials or anal that I've seen. Does anyone feel what I'm saying. I love Devon she is one of my favorites, but she doesnt do facials for nothing!! I mean this is what you do, porn!! Take one in the face like a real woman does. There should be more Monica Sweetheart's out there, DP, facial, she does it all. Click to expand [Link]
futureofporn Member 658 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 2:09AM I agree somewhat. If a girl doesnt want to do a facial or anal, then that is their business. but I would watch more of a girls movies if she was more nasty. I cant stand watching some girls treat the cumshot like its nuclear waste..some of the appeal is that they are just so damn slutty, and that takes away from the slut factor. [Link]
waterproof Member 452 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 2:16AM you are right. the more nastier, the better :) cheers, waterproof futureofporn wrote: I agree somewhat. If a girl doesnt want to do a facial or anal, then that is their business. but I would watch more of a girls movies if she was more nasty. I cant stand watching some girls treat the cumshot like its nuclear waste..some of the appeal is that they are just so damn slutty, and that takes away from the slut factor. Click to expand [Link]
ziniaraya Member London 194 Posts 4/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 2:14PM If the girls aren't into it (or, at least, putting on a good job of being into it so that I can't tell the difference), then neither am I. Mostly this is because (a) I don't like the girls getting treated bad. Even if its not rough, if they don't like it, then it still goes against how I like the girls to get treated; (b) the net result is unlikely to be impressive anyway. I have got some stuff where the girl gets a face load and obviously doesn't like it. The scene would have been better if the guy shot somewhere else and she was more into it and maybe laughed or smiled a bit. The answer to who these girls think they are is people who get the right to decide what they want just like everyone else. Z. [Link]
Lonborg Member 114 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 27 2003 : 7:34PM Devon has taken facials in the following titles: Devon: The Lost Footage(2 HUGE ones), New Breed, The Watcher, Perfect Pink in Hawaii, Virtual Sex with Devon, Room Servicing, Into The Night, Devil's Blackjack, Island Fever 2(not yet released on dvd), and her latest feature No Limits(not yet released on dvd). She has also been glazed in plenty of photo shoots and quicktime movies, which can be seen on her website. [Link]
firewall Member 20 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 28 2003 : 4:17AM ziniaraya wrote: If the girls aren't into it (or, at least, putting on a good job of being into it so that I can't tell the difference), then neither am I. Mostly this is because (a) I don't like the girls getting treated bad. Even if its not rough, if they don't like it, then it still goes against how I like the girls to get treated; (b) the net result is unlikely to be impressive anyway. I have got some stuff where the girl gets a face load and obviously doesn't like it. The scene would have been better if the guy shot somewhere else and she was more into it and maybe laughed or smiled a bit. The answer to who these girls think they are is people who get the right to decide what they want just like everyone else. Z. Click to expand I agree with this very much, and waterproofs comments, let those who want to do it- and those who don't want to shouldn't. Jenna Jameson gets far too much criticism for having never done anal with a man. Like it's affected her career- not! It's pretty ignorant to be demanding of anyone just because they are in the sex industry. There are more than enough girls around who do anal, cum shots and more stuff (stuff i dont like.) My thoughts, just find where they are and be happy. Edited by - firewall on 5/28/2003 4:20:02 AM [Link]
sassyshh Member 68 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 28 2003 : 12:11PM Take one in the face like a real woman does Click to expand Say what? LOL These girls are not toys, they are women who have the right to choose what they do and do not want to do! [Link]
lindi Senior Member 12345 3205 Posts 9/02	Posted - May 28 2003 : 12:48PM A woman who does porn told me that she thought that all women in porn should do anal, etc. ("It's their job."), or get out of porn. I told her that you'd lose a lot of girls that way. And if you want to see heat and chemistry, the girls should be doing what they love, and whatever expresses their own sexuality. So if they don't want to do girls, or anal, or facials -- that should be their choice. [Link]
GetCool Member 94 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 28 2003 : 2:55PM I've heard a lot of that over the years from a lot of people, the "all pornstars should do this act or get out of porn" talk. When you think about it though, there is already a wide variety of girls out there who will do the extreme stuff, and if you are wanting girl X to start doing anal/facials/whatever, you are just fantasizing. Hell, I can think of quite a few hot celebrities I wish I could see fucking. That is my fantasy, but I know I won't ever see any of these women in porn. To be honest, I'm quite thankful for any attractive woman to be willing to fuck on tape and let me watch it. While I do wish that some women would do more, I always remember that these thoughts are just fantasy. Be thankful for what you get, and remember that there are plenty of other girls who will do practically anything. [Link]

GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00	Posted - May 28 2003 : 4:29PM To expect every actress (or actor) to participate in every possible act is unrealistic, regardless of who they are, who they think they are, or who you think they are (or aren't). I'm of the general opinion that, given a premise for a scene or title, any actress (or actor, for that matter) who is not comfortable with the acts and action involved should not be asked to participate. In fact, it's better that way; as those who are interested will do a better job. ~ GaySatyr [Link]
futureofporn Member 658 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 28 2003 : 9:16PM Doesnt it seem like anal is the "abortion" of porn? Always a hot topic. [Link]
shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 29 2003 : 5:04AM shoneshon wrote: Is it just me or are certain girls to good to do anal and face shots, for example, Kira Kerner is a fine ass woman, but she never does facials or anal that I've seen. Does anyone feel what I'm saying. Click to expand I dont know Kira and not good enough Devon, but I feel what you are saying. There are many girls out there I want to engage in (condom-less) anal so damn much! But please remember that every woman has the right to decide herself which kind of sex-act she wants to do on stage/film. Of course there are certain porn standarts (and certainly within gonzo-category anal and facials are minimum requirements), but anal and facials on girls that really dont want to do it, tend to be bad anyway. (Unless they are very good professionsals like Lex Steel, who could hide a long time that he really does not like anal - but he not on the receiving end, too). Generally I think the lack of anal has something to do with some missing avareness on the producers side as far as initiating anal is concerned (Jewel from PMX is one example) and a wrong pricing policy. I raised this questions already here and I still hope for some more voices from inside the biz. With facials it is be similar, I bet. Its mainly a question of producer-avarness and $$$. But luckily, as Waterproof well said, there is no lack of girls willing to do all the acts we want at the moment. Edited by - Shameless on 5/29/2003 5:09:42 AM [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - May 29 2003 : 7:40AM shoneshon wrote: Take one in the face like a real woman does. Click to expand Silly me, I thought that porn was about what "real women" normally don't do (DPs, DAPs, Watersports, Fisting, etc... etc...) [Link]
waterproof Member 452 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 29 2003 : 9:23AM hehehe :) cheers, waterproof Joey Starr wrote: shoneshon wrote: Take one in the face like a real woman does. Click to expand Silly me, I thought that porn was about what "real women" normally don't do (DPs, DAPs, Watersports, Fisting, etc... etc...) Click to expand [Link]
sassyshh Member 68 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 29 2003 : 4:04PM hmm... Women who perform in pornography are real women. They may be doing things they personally normally wouldn't get off on in some instances, but I KNOW that there are PLENTY of women who love DP and the other things you mentioned in the "real world"! Why wouldn't there be? geesh. Edited by - sassyshh on 5/29/2003 4:05:06 PM [Link]
Pornmaster Mike Senior Member 32DDD 1462 Posts 8/02	Posted - May 29 2003 : 5:03PM gone are the days when watching a woman get naked and get fucked on camera was good enough... i agree that it isnt the best sight to watch a woman dodge cum like an animal trying to avoid their bath... but if shes not into i dont think she should be condemned - not all porn is about taking massive loads on your face, and stretching your ass to the limit... - Pornmaster Mike www.adultdv-depot.com [Link]
Phil Thee G Member USA 77 Posts 4/02	Posted - May 29 2003 : 7:16PM Not much to add, but I would assume some of this applies to the male talent too. Some of them probably don't like doing anal every scene or making genital contact with another guy, but they usually buck down and do it... "Yay! -another day, another dollar, another three hours risking disease inside some fresh new starlet's shit pipe while some other dude's sweaty nut sack flops up and down against mine before we beat off together on her face." Performers have the right not to partake in a specific act, but should be responsbile and agree on terms before-hand and not break a (verbal) contract. Employers also have the right not to employ them based on that criteria. [Link]
GetCool Member 94 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 30 2003 : 2:58PM Pornmaster Mike wrote: gone are the days when watching a woman get naked and get fucked on camera was good enough... i agree that it isnt the best sight to watch a woman dodge cum like an animal trying to avoid their bath... but if shes not into i dont think she should be condemned - not all porn is about taking massive loads on your face, and stretching your ass to the limit... - Pornmaster Mike www.adultdv-depot.com Click to expand I agree. It's almost as if people can't get of to anything less than the extreme stuff anymore. I have some extreme stuff and some softer stuff. I find myself watching the extreme stuff more often, but when I put in the soft stuff I can still whack it like a champ. Do I prefer watching anal over vaginal? Yes. But no matter what I am watching, I always have the thought running through my head: "Wow! This girl is hot, and she's naked, and she's having sex on camera, and she's letting me watch her!" Moreover, how many porn fans can still get off to still pictures? Sometimes when I'm too lazy to pull a DVD out of my hidden porn stash I'll just pull up a JPEG or two of my favorite pornstar of the moment and masturbate to that. She doesn't have to even be doing anything... as long as she's hot, naked, and has her legs spread for me, get the kleenex. [Link]
tpr007 Member Over 20 years at ADT so far! 325 Posts 7/01	Posted - May 30 2003 : 5:41PM apologies for duplicating what i wrote in another thread, but it seems appropriate here too: "If a girl wants pose topless but no more...fine If a girl wants to be totally nude...fine If a girl wants to shove 2 dildo's up her butt while eating out another girl...fine if a girl wants to do vaginal sex only....fine it's up to them. you don't like it? don't watch it. No-one has to do anything they don't want to do, nor should they. There are plenty of good looking girls doing what you want to watch, so watch them instead and stop crying about it. It's ridiculous to claim that they are being hypocritical - it's just a job at the end of the day, and they can do what they like if they are employed to do it." It seems a bit sad (and odd) to me that some people believe girls "should" do sexual acts even if they don't want to. They have a right to go as far as they want and show as much as they want. Again, if you don't like, don't watch. I'm more than happy with some girls who just do lesbian, or just do vaginal etc... [Link]

Blaze420 New Member 2 Posts 5/03	Posted - May 31 2003 : 2:51AM I strongly agree!!! If these so called extreme porn stars aren't providing 100% of sexual male fantasy's (e.g. Facials, anals, DP's) Than they shouldn't be in this line of Business. Thank goodness for chicks Like pioneers like Jasmine St. Claire who took porn to the next level... [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - May 31 2003 : 5:16AM This thread is almost the exact replica of the one about "Softcore models doing hardcore". Nothing wrong with the subject matter (although: adlion, my friend, take it easy!), but, in my opinion, this dead horse can't really take any more beating. Aren't there enough gorgeous models doing gangbangs, anals and any kind of crazy stuff? Or is frustration maybe more exciting that the explicit acts? [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - May 31 2003 : 9:30AM IMO, as long as there are "couples" companies who have "contract girls" there will girls who will never do anything more than generic "BJ, get eated, mish, spoon, doggie, cum on her ass" scenes. That's all the company wants out of them, there is no financial incentive for them to do any more. Yes, some contract performers will do more because they like to do more, but most won't. I'll go out on a limb and say that most girls who are doing lots of anal, DP, DPP, DAP, etc... are doing it because they get paid more to do it, not because they love those acts (most, not all). Take away the financial incentive to "work overtime" (like pay a contract girl a set salary) and they are going to "work overtime". [Link]
shameless Deactivated User Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03	Posted - Jun 1 2003 : 3:31AM Your leatest sentence is not that clear to me, Bill, but basically you hit the point, IMO: It is a question of money only. If pussy-only was payed much worse than anal, we would get anal from 99% of the girls, if girls not doing facials would not even get hired, 99% of the girls would train to overcome their facial cum-shyness. It is as easy as that. If you ask me, pussy-only is payed too much. But I still retain: Every girl has the right to choose what she wants to act on film! In this sense it is good that there is a couples and contract girls market, too. Edited by - Shameless on 6/1/2003 3:32:50 AM [Link]