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threadman80
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Posted - Jul 3 2009 : 10:54AM
The best thing about all these porn websites, is the amount of movies you can have quick access too. The problem is, you fill up your hard drive and external drives. So far I'm 750 g in, and still need more.
Do any of you have an online storage you prefer? One with unlimited capacity?
Topic Moved by - heynow on Jul 3 2009
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 3 2009 : 1:44PM
I have no experience with any of them, but I simply don't trust them. I don't know how they can guarantee they won't goof *poof* one day with all your stuff and you're left with nothing but memories.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Jul 3 2009 : 5:45PM
^ I don't trust them either.
Also, think of the day the government decides they want to start digging through people's online storage.
Those of us who own porn should think twice about storing anything that will get you screwed in a government witch-hunt.
threadman80
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130 Posts
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Posted - Jul 3 2009 : 7:22PM
I can be as black helicopter as the next guy, but if they start going after porn, it would exhaust even their resources.
The going poof thing is a worry, but so is paying for all these hard drives.
Leyden
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Posted - Jul 4 2009 : 8:25AM
Rather than use online storage I prefer to use optical storage. Burn CD-R or DVD-R of your downloads, and that'll free up space on your hard drive. The alternative is to keep buying more and more hard drives.
 
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Jul 4 2009 : 9:36AM
^ I'm very anal-retentive, so I do both
I keep buying lots of hard-drives, and I burn the stuff to DVDs before deleting the files from my internal drive(s) on the computer.
(1) Original DVD
(2) Back-up copy of original DVD
(3) Harvest and create individual scenes, cumshots, trailers, extras, etc. from DVD
(4) Burn harvested files to DVDs (as individual files, not a movie)
(5) Burn harvested files to external hard-drives*
(6) Burn the "good stuff" onto My Passport portable drives (for immediate use)
(7) Finally, delete files from internal drive(s) on the computer
So, as you can see, backing-up my files to online storage would just be overkill
* My current external hard-drives archive consists of seven 1 TB drives:
Scenes A-B & W-Z
Scenes C-I
Scenes J-K
Scenes L-Q
Scenes R-V
Cumshots (includes Popshots, Ejaculations and BJs)
XXXtras (includes trailers, title credits, behind-the-scenes, sex ads, photo shoots, etc.)
Leyden
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Posted - Jul 4 2009 : 10:01AM
I don't think I've seen the word "harvest" used in quite that manner before.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 5 2009 : 7:22AM
You are a god
Loraine
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Posted - Jul 5 2009 : 10:54AM
^ Or a librarian!
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jul 6 2009 : 10:04AM
I prefer mass storage locally to any online storage. I'm not quite at BigBob's level, but am now pushing 4TB worth of storage, all redundant via RAID on a NAS device, so I guess that means technically I'm sitting on 8TB of redundant porn. LOL...isn't all porn redundant after awhile?
My biggest concerns re: online storage are that you are potentially publishing a complete case file for evidence against you for copyright infringement, obscenity or both. While the chances of any of us getting nailed with something like this are remote, it becomes FAR easier for the prosecution if they can access digital content pre-indexed as opposed to getting a search warrant for my home. ISP's in the USA are already very cooperative with the feds in divulging your surfing habits and download history.....no need to completely automate the job for the prosecution IMHO.
PS: Leyden, I did the DVD thing for a long time also, so I guess I can add maybe another TB or two to my collection if I add all those in. I've yet to transfer them all back over to my NAS array....doing that slowly. I've also been discouraged to learn that many of my older burns have glitches in them. Could have been bad burns originally or some form of degradation, not sure which.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Jul 6 2009 : 11:30AM
FWIW, it is not copyright infringement if you own the original media (typically DVDs and VHS tapes) you have harvested your collection from (for your sole use, and not to be copied for others and/or uploaded to the Internet).
The "glitches" are the reason I have so much redundancy in my archives.
At a minimum, I have:
(1) Original media
(2) Backup of original media
(3) My "harvested" files burned to DVDs (in real-time order as the files get created)
(4) My "harvested" files burned to external hard-drives (which organize everything alphabetically)
(5) Whatever files I copy to portable hard-drives and/or DVD stroke-compilations for medicinal purposes
There have been a few times, probably less then 10, that an individual file has become corrupted (both on a hard-drive and on burned media), and I have been easily able to restore it from one of the other archives.
The thing I actually fear the most, is having the original media go bad -- and this has happened a few times (but, again, my archives always bail me out).
One thing I have learned in collecting porn is that, porn has a very limited shelf-life. Most of it, anyway. Meaning that, scenes, movies, and stars go "out-of-print" all the time. Even the very best stuff. If it's more than 10 years old, your odds of being able to purchase it again drop drastically. And, the advent of web-distributed content has resulted in even fewer titles being re-printed when current stock sells through.
Moral of the story...
If you like something, buy it now, back it up and watch your collection from your backups and stroke-compilations (and harvested files, if you take the time to create them).
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jul 6 2009 : 3:29PM
Well this is where I'm liable to get myself into trouble. Years ago, I bought a digital DVD Jukebox player and began to rip my DVD's (or burned web-based content) to DVD-R's and then throw away the original DVD + packaging. I have (had) young kids in the house and didn't want them to be able to access my porn collection which was pretty extensive at the time. I didn't keep stuff on mass storage back then because, back then, mass storage was maybe a few gigs in older SCSI drives. It was just too expensive to go that route.
I DO have a copy of every receipt for every DVD I ever purchased, going back at least 10 years. I have been a big paperless-office fan for years and have whole drives dedicated to indexed receipts for all kinds of purchases. So I guess I still have proof of ownership as the original DVD's weren't serialized in the first place.
Regardless, the whole archival copy thing really doesn't help me much with all the web-based content I've accumulated from fully-paid accounts. I keep all my CCBill/Epoch registration forms as proof that I belonged to that site but I don't know how far digital copyright laws have been tested in that arena as of yet.
Slightly off topic, but I'd love to find a very good and easy to use file indexing program that lets me apply my own search tags to each file. Suggestions? I have my RAID array indexed via Google Desktop now and it works but it isn't great without tags.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 6 2009 : 7:17PM
It's not illegal to own obscene material. It's illegal to sell or display obscene material. So, there's no reason to worry about that one.
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 4:12PM
Not entirely true, Bill.
Under 18 USC Chapter 71, the Supreme Court has ruled that it is constitutional to legally limit the sale, transport for personal use or other transmission of obscenity. While it is not illegal to merely possess materials that are deemed "obscene" under the Miller test, moving your digital media from your home to a server residing outside your home is clearly considered both transport and transmission.
The intent to sell it or profit from it in any way is irrelevant for the purposes of determining if you have violated the statute itself.
So basically, you can own it. You can view it. You can store it to your local hard drive. But take it off your personal property via carrying it or transmitting it in any way, and you open yourself up to prosecution.
Of course, this all assumes you become a target in the first place. From what we've seen of obscenity litigation recently, it appears to be focused on actual content creators/distributors, not viewers. Yet.
For more information, I suggest you read the following from 18 USC Section 1460. It states, in part, "While even the mere possession of child pornography is a crime, private possession of obscenity is not, although the act of receiving obscenity could violate the statutes prohibiting use of the mails, carriers, or interactive computer services for the purpose of transporting such material."
Regardless, the bigger issue is how you came into possession of such materials. If you bought/paid for them, you came into possession of them by engaging in commerce, yet another violation against you. Even if you pirated them, it has already been upheld that paying for your ISP account or a Usenet account can be viewed as engaging in commerce to obtain access to the obscene materials. If you pay for an online storage facility to store your obscene materials, that is also engaging in commerce.
Oh and the real doozy hidden in obscenity charges? 18 USC 1467 - The feds can force a forfieture of property used in the commission of an obscenity offense.
My issue with online storage services remains. Once you place materials outside your control, they are outside of your control. TOS policies kick in and the feds have easy access to your little cache of porn. If, on the other hand, it is in your house...they'd need a search warrant to get the evidence. That may be meager protection, but it's better than zero protection. For all you know the feds may even be setting up one or more of these "online storage" services as a front to catch pedophiles and you get caught up in the net. There was a big rumor circulating about the hidebehind.com service related to this some time ago....no idea of the merit of that rumor.
Use online storage services at your own risk is my continued advisement. What isn't considered obscene today may very well be considered so later.

Edited by - LubenLuv on 7/7/2009 4:36:30 PM

BigBobxxx
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Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 10:11PM
You don't see LubeNLuv and I agreeing that often, so it must be true
 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 10:13PM
They'll also bank on the idea that if they litigate, it becomes a war of attrition in bank accounts, and most likely you'll run out of money long before they do.
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jul 7 2009 : 11:02PM
And somewhere in Hell, Beelzebub just nailed Asmodeus with a yellow snowball.......



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