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| SCK Member 22 Posts 11/11 |  Posted - Nov 2 2011 : 9:20PMNowadays, you see so many things in adult movies with a theme on big butts, and there are so many adult actresses with a lot of junk in the trunk. But who would you say started the whole thing? I was thinking it might be one of three people- Nina Hartley, Tiffany Mynx, or Katja Kassin. [Link] |
| Ashlii Member 809 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Nov 2 2011 : 9:25PM [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Nov 2 2011 : 9:27PM My thoughts from a discussion on this topic we had in here five years ago. BSD [Link] |
| christopher streams Member 419 Posts 2/04 | Posted - Nov 2 2011 : 11:03PM [Link] |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Nov 2 2011 : 11:09PM Teagan isn't in with them. Nice ass yes, big ass no. ----Dread---- [Link] |
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| jrockmovie Member 38 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 12:51AM Teagan has a nice ass but I think the OP is talking about huge butts like Kelly Divine. Teagan (at least in the movies I saw of her) has a nice shapely ass but not a "big butt" like what Elegant Angel has been featuring the last few years. I mean those asses are huge. Before this recent craze, those types of asses would have been considered heavy girl porn. There is no point in porn history where Teagan would have not been mainstream, but some of the larger bootied girls now would not have made the cut. Just sayin... And I actually like Kelly Divine and some of the more massive assed gals now. Ryan Conner was a pioneer of the massive ass, but even hers was held together pretty well compared to some of the cottage cheese butts that are more frequent now. [Link] |
| Dread Senior Member Latex and boobs 5085 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 12:54AM anyway, on topic the first girl i really remember there being a craze about her butt was Katja. ----Dread---- [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 1:46AM Don't know how many read my big booty history in the link, but I'll synthesize it down. For WHITE women, (Black and ethnic women is a different discussion), the mainstream porn producer who first voiced a big butt fetish and pretty much created the genre in a meaningful way was John Stagliano in the early to mid 90s. His first porn big butt protege', and the embodiment of all that he loved in a big booty white girl was Krysti Lynn. Krysti was the first girl specifically presented and marketed for her big ass, and it was always the focal point of the movies that John made with her from 93 to 95. She was the first big butt queen. Unfortunately, Krysti died at 24 in 1995, and didn't live to see the popularity of the porn genre that she helped create, or the transition from videotape to dvd that fueled the consumer porn explosion of the last ten years. The first porn girl to really cash in on the growing "big booty" focus was Katja Kassin when she hit America's shores in 2003. That was the beginning of the big butt genre as we know it. I've discussed Katja at length elsewhere. BSD P.S. - Teagan Presley in a thread about "big" butts. Good grief. Lord deliver me from this nonsense. Edited by - BSD on 11/3/2011 1:49:52 AM [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 1:55AM From a director standpoint, I think John "Buttman" Stagliano was the man. I can't really recall many, if any, big butt movies before he started shooting them. [Link] |
BlackSix  All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 3:13AM [Link] |
| celluloidferox Senior Member @EmperorCorndog 1438 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 3:23AM I think Nina has to be mentioned. For me though; it was women like Ryan Conner, Olivia O'Lovely, and Tiffany Mynx. I also have to give some credit to Jules Jordan for my knowing about any of them with the first few Ass Worship movies. Vicariously, I always thought of Jewel D'Nyle as an underrated booty queen. [Link] |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 2:58PM Director: John Stagliano Girl: Tianna [Link] |
| rc7394 Senior Member 1109 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 3:08PM [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 3:22PM Sure there have been particular buttworthy girls (Nina Hartley, Tanya Foxx, Kassi Nova) all along, but Buttman is the first to explicitly and overtly feature the bigbutt and talk about it and produce movies with booty-centric titles and booty-centric themes and booty-centric content and explicit dialogue about the big booty. Even the classic "Caught from Behind" and "Loose Ends" series were primarily about anal sex and not about big butts. If the performers in those movies happened to have big butts it was merely incidental, if the viewer happened to notice it, but the "big butt" was rarely/never actually praised or even mentioned in the movie dialogue. It'd be interesting to research what was the first overt recognition/mention/acknowledgement of the awesomeness of Nina Hartley's butt, within a movie? Edited by - ninja1 on 11/3/2011 3:25:13 PM [Link] |
| Midnight Max Deactivated User And put an end to the Chicago-style Thuggery 678 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 4:29PM Did Chris Streams really say it was Teagan Presley?!? [Link] |
| Steve Smith Senior Member 2669 Posts 11/11 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 4:35PM If it is meaning shapely, then it would be Nina Hartley. Any of us that have been around for a while knows that everyone was talking about her butt in the 1980's. Her butt is excellent. Edited by - Steve Smith on 11/10/2011 2:07:00 PM [Link] |
| BumBum Member 395 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 9:00PM Then, Penthouse started showing more butt, and then Club, and then some others. Later, I was delighted when mags like Rear View cam out. For way too long, bums were virtually ignored by the glossy press. Then the video revolution started, and porn became widely available. Even still, great ass porn was rare. Then, Stagliano started things. The Adventures of Buttman was maybe the greatest development in all of porn history. Now there are more big butt and anal series than I could list. Why so much ass and anal porn, now? Because it sells. Why does it sell? Because people love big ass and anal porn. Stagliano, you are the man! [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Nov 3 2011 : 9:12PM As far as which director and/or studio helped bring bubble butts to the forefront on porn? I'd say the studio behind the BABY GOT BACK series and BUTTMAN. Both did a series of movies with big butts themes. [Link] |
| christopher streams Member 419 Posts 2/04 | Posted - Nov 4 2011 : 12:40AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Nov 4 2011 : 12:52AM [Link] |
| Midnight Max Deactivated User And put an end to the Chicago-style Thuggery 678 Posts 3/08 | Posted - Nov 4 2011 : 12:57AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Nov 4 2011 : 8:33AM You have to remember that technically, sex is about reproduction. Not recreation. We evolved to maximize the chance that our offspring would be born and survive. A malnourished mother would not be a great idea. Of course in some cases, the big butt thing gets wildly exaggerated. I like 'em big but even I have my limits. When it starts looking ridiculous, I lose interest. Edited by - randomprecision on 11/4/2011 8:40:13 AM [Link] |
| Rubberhole Deactivated User 256 Posts 2/10 | Posted - Nov 4 2011 : 9:02AM [Link] |
| warrenwest67 Member Thanks for the mammaries. 966 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Nov 4 2011 : 9:45AM Buttman was the first director I watched that focused on Big Asses. I loved Hustlers "Tailends" Mag at the time (80's) But recently the "Assparade" website changed the way I look at Big Ass porn. I figured as a website they could be more intensely focused and spend more time on the theme then if they were releasing DVD's for mass market. It was nice to see ass play and exploration instead of the standard foreplay to start a scene. I loved "over40inches.com" when that site first came out. They went so far as to measure the girl’s waist on camera then, if it was over 40" they would start to plunder from there. Also I think the fact that the Big Tit theme got muddy-ed up with the onset of implants. So what’s more natural than a nice ass that is made in the gym - or at In and Out Burger joint, depending on how big it is. But I yeild my time to BSD- he always has the goods on Big Assed girls. [Link] |
| Blak Porn Member Wifey is sexy. 72 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Nov 10 2011 : 11:11AM The first starlet I remember having a big ass was Skyy (BEFORE becoming Skyy Black). Her ass turned me on so much, the best part of her scenes was just watching her walk. For me, Skyy was the first phatty girl. Then came Cherokee D'Ass. Her ass is AMAZING! (Cherokee's ass isn't toned, nor are her legs, so if that's your thing, you won't like her.) What's even more impressive about Cherokee is, she doesn't have a big-girl frame--she's just bottom-heavy. Conversely, most big-butt black starlets are big all over. Kelly Divine, who's one of my favorites, truly has a phat ass. But not even she has an ass as impressive as Cherokee's. [Link] |
| Endorphine Rush Deactivated User "Why don't you flex yr magic muscle?" (Captain Beefheart) 418 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Nov 10 2011 : 11:37AM > black women [Link] |
| Unicorn Member 156 Posts 4/04 | Posted - Nov 10 2011 : 12:35PM I would not describe Nina Hartley as a woman with a 'BIG ASS'. She would be offended. She works very hard to keep herself thin and tight and she looks amazing. At a glance, it's very hard to tell the difference from 1980's Nina and Today. (She started in 1984) What Nina and Tiffany and possibly Naomi have is what I would describe as a very SHAPELY butt with a very defined and above average waist to hip ratio. Now Katja and Krysti are of a different body style all together and girls like Pinky and Cherokee are yet another thing altogether. That being said - I'm just curious - how common are butt implants now? I had never heard of such a thing until someone posted pics of Danielle Derek who had a very obvious booty bump that just defied laws of physics. Is the butt job the new boob job? Just asking. [Link] |
| Steve Smith Senior Member 2669 Posts 11/11 | Posted - Nov 10 2011 : 2:08PM I would say that Sarah Vandella has a very excellent butt. Edited by - Steve Smith on 11/10/2011 2:11:27 PM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Nov 10 2011 : 10:05PM [Link] |
| mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Nov 11 2011 : 10:07AM I'm having trouble thinking of girls in the classic-era (pre-VHS) era, that are known for having a big, or bubble butt. I guess Vanessa Del Rio would qualify. Maybe Annie Sprinkle. [Link] |
| mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Nov 11 2011 : 10:10AM [Link] |
| Hodel Deactivated User 462 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Dec 27 2011 : 1:57AM -  [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 27 2011 : 10:10AM And perhaps the increased supply of ladies with big butts also has something to do with it. Americans are more obese now than they were 20 or 30 years ago. And this means that now there are lot more ladies with big butts than there were before. Some moderately overweight women are very attractive. It all depends on how their body fat is distributed. If the fat goes to the lady's tits and buns, then she looks more attractive, when she gains weight. [Link] |
| bissy Senior Member Nikki Sexx is superhot !!!! 7066 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Dec 28 2011 : 7:45AM [Link] |
| HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11 | Posted - Dec 28 2011 : 7:50AM that's who started it. Then Skyy Black came along [Link] |
| RiveGauche1999 Member 472 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 28 2011 : 7:07PM [Link] |
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| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Dec 28 2011 : 8:25PM [Link] |
| Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User 56 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Dec 29 2011 : 12:47AM Sir Mix-A-Lot was talking about this shit in the 90's, what kind of question is 'who started the big butt craze'? [Link] |
| warrenwest67 Member Thanks for the mammaries. 966 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Dec 29 2011 : 9:37AM Believe it or not people have been having sex for kind of a long time now. We havnt invented anything that hasnt been done before. [Link] |
| Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User 56 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Dec 29 2011 : 11:26AM [Link] |
| warrenwest67 Member Thanks for the mammaries. 966 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Dec 29 2011 : 1:47PM [Link] |
| Hodel Deactivated User 462 Posts 12/11 | Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 9:27AM Briella-  [Link] |
| bissy Senior Member Nikki Sexx is superhot !!!! 7066 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 11:18AM [Link] |
| twistedvincent Deactivated User Juelz....Fucking Juelz 3960 Posts 5/09 | Posted - Jan 1 2012 : 7:15PM Please read BSD's post from WAY BACK in 2006, I believe he hit the nail on the head concerning Ryan Conner If you've got a girl on top (or any other position for that matter), and there is an abundance of dimples (cottage cheese), it's time to head to the gym and ease off the cheeseburgers. If you choose to have a big ass, at least make it a fit ass. IMO the absolute BEST of the new "thick" ass girls is Franceska Jaimes.  As they say, you could bounce a quarter off her ass.I think Stagliano played a major part in the "big butt" craze. But(t)I honestly think a major part of the craze goes back to a couple things: 1 - I have to agree with Mr_Heatmiser. The Sir Mix Alot "Baby Got Back" style "booty shake" videos of the 90's. Having worked at Rachels Orlando for pretty much ALL of the 90's, I definitely noticed that the more popular those videos/music got the more the asses started to grow....usually in a bad way. We had to call girls on it on numerous occasions because unfortunately as their asses grew, so did the rest of them! 2 - The simple fact that as a society most of us have gotten lazy, girls included so we're more tolerant of "big butt" girls. The problem is though, if you notice, most of the "thick" girls in the business today just continue to get thicker and thicker. They get some positive feedback about their big ass and they take it a license to chow down, without taking care of themselves. Edited by - twistedvincent on 1/1/2012 7:19:19 PM [Link] |
| Herzog Deactivated User 245 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 24 2012 : 8:21AM [Link] |
| Blu Lite 3 Member Yeah uh-huh sure... and I guess conspiracy is just a theory. 252 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Apr 24 2012 : 6:15PM Adult DVD Talk Forum Topic which coincides pretty much with what Dan said...The admiration for beautiful shapely thick big butt women really isn't something new. It's just been cleverly suppressed for a very long time. Still, if you're looking for names throughout the history of porn that made contributions, there have always been no-named thick beauties popping up every now and then here and there but I guess the first one who was an actual star in the business would be Vanessa Del Rio with Susan Nero, Desiree Cousteau, Amber Hunt and Jennifer Wells (in her later years in the business) as runner ups. Then in the mid '80s came the big three, Nina Hartley, Ebony Ayres and Tanya muthaf*ckin brick-house Foxx. And talking about Nina, man, when she first hit the scene (back when she had dark hair) she personified the meaning of "brick-house". Especially in the scene she did with Vanessa Del Rio. She was more thicker and lovely than Vanessa. When I first saw the video back in the day, I thought she was Hispanic then came to find out that she's really white. However, I've always said that it was Ebony Ayres who open the floodgates for big butt honeys in the '90s to come in and take the stage like Tersa Tease, Janet Jacme, Menage A Trois, Lady A, Hot Chocolate, Cindy Love and a few others. But that started to quickly die out towards the end of the decade. Yet, while that phase was dying, something else was emerging that not only picked up the slack but established and maintain the genre to this day. That was the internet (I go into that in the post I linked to above). All of this was going on way before Katja Kassin, Sunny Lane, Cherokee D Ass, Pinky, Sarah Jay, Ryan Conner, Luscious Lopez, Victoria Allure and all the others most of y'all talk about now appeared. [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Apr 24 2012 : 8:51PM And there's no need for anyone to point out they've always been into big butts because I'm not saying you weren't but clearly big butts are more accepted now by much more people than they were in the 80s.Sure...but those girls are stars of the big butt era. Most of those girls porn career were built on their butts. Most of the women named from the past were pornstars who just happened to have big butts but it usually wasn't the focus of their movies, scenes or careers. [Link] |
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