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| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 |  Posted - Dec 27 2013 : 1:50PM. Just need to remortgage my house to afford the plane ticket...[Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Dec 27 2013 : 4:41PM -No ugly guys -No GOOD-LOOKING guys to antagonise the male viewer with Personally I don't mind either. A guy like R. Bolla in the Golden Age did not look particularly good, but I'd rather watch him than any of Rocco's sociopathic shtick, although Rocco used to be objectively good looking. Good looking guys bother me even less - it's not as if they're having sex with my girlfriend after all. In my case g-g has become a large portion of post 1990 porn that I watch for other reasons: (1) I despise the way most b-g porn has become an exercise in the humiliation of women, or what I call Woman Hating Shit (WHS). I don't get off watching a bunch of lowlifes getting their jollies out of using some pretty girl like shit. (2) Modern b-g porn has become some sort of weird sport: Gapes. Bigger Gapes. DPs. DAPs. 100 man gangbangs. Bukkakes. A2M. It's not sex, it's sport. If I want sport I can just watch the NFL. In my porn I want to watch sex, not "acts". And it's not the acts that I mind so much. I like many sex variations in real life, including anal sex, internal oral finishes and even restraining my partner, and I don't have a problem with other acts that other people like but I do not, e.g. watersports. My problem in porn is not the acts, it's the attitude portrayed in it, and no amount of disclaimers of the "it's only a fantasy" sort will make them enjoyable. (3) Modern b-g porn is all about the guy. No, scratch that, it's all about the penis and its effluents. For some bizarre to me reason, most straight male viewers seem to be fixated on the length, girth and sperm capacity of the guy's dicks instead of the women. I watch porn strictly for the women. I don't mind the guys, as long as they don't behave (or look) like total apes, in fact I'd rather like to watch them have sex with the pretty girls like normal human beings. (4) Because of this penis fixation, modern b-g porn lacks all intimacy. The idiotic and absurd external cumshot is one such expression of this fixation, but the same holds with the contorted and distant positions between the two bodies so that the camera can get a clear view of its precious penis. There are never any close body positions or any eye contact between the couple (I'm not even going to multiple men on one girl scenes). The all important thing is to show the penis and its emissions. I am not interested in some guy's tackle. If I were interested in penises I could just look at mine. (4) For the same reason, there is almost never any proper foreplay in modern b-g scenes. I love foreplay - it's probably my favourite part of sex and I could do it literally for hours. But in b-g porn it's all about the penis either getting sucked or penetrating some hole. Those lovely female bodies never get properly played with. The better sort of girl-girl functions as a good substitute: in general there is much more foreplay and kissing, much more appreciation of the female body, and greater intimacy. This is the reason for the extreme unpopularity of toys in genre (i.e. non-mainstream) lesbian movies like those by Viv Thomas, Girlfriends Films etc, for most male g-g viewers. Real lesbian women find this hatred of the toys they happily use in their sex lives strange, but they don't understand that male viewers of g-g films have not come to watch LESBIANS have sex: they've come to watch WOMEN have sex. If they happen to actually like women in real life so much the better, since they will display a greater appreciation for their scene partners' bodies and hopefully develop some good chemistry with them. But that's what makes a GOOD g-g scene; the reason the male viewer was there in the first place however is to see a pretty girl being the centre of the attention in a sex scene, for once. Imperator [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 27 2013 : 6:15PM ^ I agree with some of your points , especially about foreplay to which I share your great fondness in real life sex. I'm not very much interested in males nor penises but they have to be at least equal to mine and with a decent wood , I can't imagine myself limp or pencil dicked 'cause I'm not. and I strongly agree with the lack of passion between the performers (and the reason why I like so much Nica Noelle's works.Naah you just need some shoes , make sure they are red though. I don't have a UK passport would a European one be of use? Edited by - LCF on 12/27/2013 6:26:51 PM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 1:04AM [Link] |
| rtj2v0a Self-removed Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 1:14AM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 4:30AM For me the fantasy lies all in watching female beauty, a resource that in the real world is (a) scarce; (b) very variable; and (c) highly unlikely that you will be able to see naked (or worse, having sex). And watching a beautiful woman have sexual fun is really very beautiful. Porn steps in and provides beautiful women (usually), of the sort of beauty you don't easily find in real life (from different countries and even races), all of them naked and having fun. Only it doesn't. Even when it manages to cast genuinely pretty young women (and the emphasis on "young" is intentional, since so much porn these days is of the "milf" version which does less than zero for me), they will more often than not try to all become uniform looking through the copious application of silicone, bleach and tattoo ink. And in any event the centre of the focus remains some guy, or rather some guy's dick and his sperm. I personally don't care about some guy getting off, I watch porn for the women. So, off to g-g I go. It may be also infested by over-the-hill "milfs" and by women competing on who will permanently deface their bodies more extensively through implants and tattoos, but at least I won't have to watch a bunch of ex-con types behaving like apes with the camera lovingly tracking their man paste as if it's holy water. Imp. [Link] |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 10:03AM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 10:14AM Indeed. It's another sign that "lesbian" porn is actually addressed to straight men rather than gay women that all scenes require the girls to fake at least an "orgasm" each. The US, being the country of excess and also of an obsession with the bottom line (for the latter of which I actually admire it :)), has taken this requirement even further, and genre lesbian labels (i.e producers of g-g only) in the US are in an arms race of providing ever more "orgasms" per scene. A woman like Celeste Star is a genre superstar (har, har) partly because of her ridiculous faking of double-figure "orgasms" per scene. BTW, by using the word "faking" I don't imply that I have a problem with the practice. Far from it. Some girls, e.g. Jo, Zuzana Z., Sandra Shine or Eufrat, have particularly beautiful faking routines. Who cares if it's fake as long as it looks so damn beautiful. Female faked "orgasms" have a further advantage over the genuine ones of b-g: they don't need the chap to jerk off manically like a demented monkey at the end just to get to the precious "money" shot. She just does her song and dance, pretends her clit is oversensitive afterwards, and everyone's happy. Imp. Edited by - Imperator on 12/28/2013 10:14:37 AM [Link] |
| Fireyfox Member 233 Posts 4/02 | Posted - Dec 28 2013 : 6:46PM When I watching porn, whether its b/g or g/g, I just as the saying goes, just go with the flow and cum when the feeling to cum happens and I can't hold it back. Sometimes the scene has still sometime to run but I'm ready to go! [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 29 2013 : 11:41AM Here are some examples of the physical arousal that the woman needs to show to make her orgasm look real and believable for the viewers: Squirting orgasm with a pussy gape Pussy truly and fully aroused This lady's wet pussy speaks for itself that it is sexually aroused. Acting doesn't look believable, unless there is spectacular visual evidence to back it up. And this is true as much in porn as it is in Science Fiction movies, or action movies, or any other type of movies. The acting looks lame and hard to believe, when there are no spectacular visual effects to go along with it. Edited by - Dan on 12/29/2013 11:46:58 AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 29 2013 : 12:06PM man if someone ties a woman and stimulate her manually long enough her pussy would get wet but I seriously doubt she'd be sexually aroused. If some male ties you and stimulates you manually you'll get an erection even more so if he sucks you properly, but I really doubt you'd be sexually aroused even if you're forced to ejaculate. Biological arousal and actual sexual arousal aren't the same thing if a top model wants to fuck you senseless your arousal would be far greater than that provided by some regular woman , you'd be aroused even just at the very idea to fuck her. the best of sex lies in the mind , if you get fired and manage to cuckold your former employer with his wife , I believe your arousal would be greater than just fuckomg her in a casual encounter without knowing who she is. It's all in your mind. Edited by - LCF on 12/29/2013 12:08:49 PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 29 2013 : 1:01PM The viewer can only see the lady's physical arousal. There is no way he can read her mind. If you can believe that the guy is sexually aroused, when you see his big erection. Then you can also believe that the lady is sexually aroused, when you see her pussy wet and gaping. I don't see the difference between the two. It's nonsense to doubt sexual arousal for both men and women, when it's so visually obvious. Edited by - Dan on 12/29/2013 1:01:57 PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 29 2013 : 1:30PM Many signs of sexual arousal are very similar to that induced by alcohol or drugs , other can be induces through manipulation. How can you learn from signs you cannot trust ?What Can I learn from this? [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 29 2013 : 2:24PM Alcohol and recreational drugs interfere with physical sexual arousal, according to medical doctors, who know about this more than you do. How Recreational drugs and Alcohol Affect Your Sex Life. It's true that Viagra can increase physical sexual arousal. But it also causes mental sexual arousal at the same time. Because human body is indivisible. The mental and the physical arousal usually go together. Which means that physical arousal causes mental arousal, and mental arousal causes physical arousal. That's why when you see that a guy has an erection or the lady's pussy is wet and gaping, then you can be pretty sure that it's not just physical arousal but also mental arousal for both of them. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 29 2013 : 5:53PM Alcohol affects sexual arousal true especially in men (not in women unless they pass out) and I don't need to be a doctor to know that , personal experience says that more than enough , to the point that pushing a woman to drink alcohol and then to exploit her arousal to fuck her is considered rape in some Countries. No matter how much she wants it , if she's drunk because of you then you risk to be jailed and maybe some judges would find you guilty even if it's her who get drunk by herself. also for what you SEE in a movie you CAN'T say whether her reddening skin upon the chest , throat and face (plus other places) is due to some substance or her sexual arousal , same for her expression or even performance, she may be rough impaling herself because she feels almost nothing due to drugs, other signs like the asshole opening might be inducted by stimulation with the purpose of faking arousal. You can learn only by actual reaction but you must know for sure they are real and you can't in a porn .I have seen women in porn almost passing out from a very powerful orgasm from an almost completely limp dick. Really? not to mention those performers who stay half ours stroking to get something they can sell as an orgasm Edited by - LCF on 12/29/2013 5:57:51 PM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Dec 30 2013 : 2:06AM Anyway, sorry for the temporary derailment of this thread - now back to our regularly scheduled programming... Edited by - N00dlesDaddy on 12/30/2013 2:20:49 AM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Dec 30 2013 : 3:03AM Surely the cumshot isn't the only exciting moment in the porn you watch. I know it isn't for me. In fact, I would be disappointed if it was the only moment worth getting excited about. [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Dec 30 2013 : 11:29AM [Link] |
| Lezlover Member 527 Posts 9/12 | Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 9:56AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 10:57AM they actually made a minority of consumers,those who hate women and like to see them abused the only voice around. They begun adding something, then adding a little bit more, then more again , then some consumer escaped and they found themselves with who wanted even more and they gave that to them. here should be somewhere an argument I had with Chico Wang years ago (with my former nick Laurie Cameron Fan) , about Steven French continuously slapping Trinity Post's ass to the point to redden it a lot and then when she turned her head as to ask what was he doing he suddenly spat in her face , she was caught completely off guard by both his actions , it was apparent but continued the scene to the end. I asked to Chico who was the director what the hell was he thinking to do such a scene , he apologized and said it was Steven doing and completely unplanned and that he had words with him after the scene and complimented Trinity for not stopping, a true trooper. Now nobody would even understand what was wrong in that scene Edited by - LCF on 12/31/2013 2:42:52 PM [Link] |
| MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 11:14AM [Link] |
| T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Dec 31 2013 : 3:52PM In the final scene from the same DVD, Chanel Preston and Lorelei Lee don strap-ons to DP a lovely MILF performer named Simone Sonay. There's always a lovely lady at the center of the action here instead of two dudes inevitably hogging the frame as in most b/b/g DPs. Also, the trio perform a DP position with the thrusting girls butt to butt and Simone taking their thrusts from the pile driver position. It's all well-captured and highly recommended. Happy New Year! TMB [Link] |
| phaedrus Member 288 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Jan 1 2014 : 2:25PM http://business.avn.com/articles/video/Meet-the-2014-Nominees-for-All-Girl-Performer-of-the-Year-539679.html Meet the 2014 Nominees for All-Girl Performer of the Year [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jan 2 2014 : 10:57AM A typically absurd Americanocentric piece of AVN shilling for its favourite companies who buy ad space in it. Don't get me wrong: there are some great models in the list, at least two of which (Shyla J and Malena M) would be in the discussion for best performer this year, with Malena in fact being overwhelming favourite to win it - her work this year has been nothing short of amazing. But it ignores the tremendous work being done in European lez, in fact the place where the whole lez porn revolution started in the turn of the century; girls like Eufrat and Jo have done tremendous work this year and they are far from alone. The list also includes some great models who haven't done much work recently, good or bad, like Prinzzy or ginger horror :) Justine J. Anyway, all this is rather beside the point and doesn't really answer the question why straight men are attracted to g-g. Imp. Edited by - Imperator on 1/2/2014 10:57:34 AM [Link] |
| Shadow115 Member 332 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jan 3 2014 : 4:39AM I've always liked G/G porn, but after seeing a lot of the more recent stuff from Viv Thomas/GFF/Sweetheart Video/WLT/Kissmegirl/etc, I've realized what utter crap lesbian scenes were before about 2005. Browsing porn sites, I happened upon the Zoe Britton/Anita Dark scene from early GFF's, and I was just blown away. First off, the scene length was like 50 something minutes, they were wearing these beautiful gowns, and the sex seemed, romantic. It was at that time that basically just a giant wave of awesome lesbian porn showed up, at least stuff that I liked. Back in the day, it was, the two women kissed for 5 seconds, licked nipples for 10 seconds, had oral sex for 20, and then used a dildo for the last 15 minutes, and end scene. What trash. Thank God they finally figured it out. [Link] |
| phaedrus Member 288 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Jan 3 2014 : 9:56AM [Link] |
| charn fubar 2880 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jan 3 2014 : 7:33PM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jan 5 2014 : 7:09AM Porn Girls improving their Gapes Girls today not willing to do more aggresive acts? (this is mostly complaints that they don't) Who is the Hottest girl you've seen rim a guy? (46 pages of it) Girls calling themselves Whore/Dirty Whore Anal scenes where girls say words like "shit hole" ...as well as the usual directory threads of The 2014 Anal, DP, Gangbang Wishlist The Official FIRST ANAL - 2014 Edition (No DPs) Gangbang movies and scenes - 2014 Edition ------------------- Again, I'm not giving these examples by way of censure, although I certainly call this attitude (of both producers and consumers) Woman Hating Shit. But human sexuality is a huge and mysterious subject, and I've learned over the years to just move on when I don't get a sexual act. Otherwise I would just label the whole of Germany "sick" for the watersports fixation of their porn over the last 40 years :D, or Japan for their faux schoolgirls, or indeed Britain for its spanking fetish. Lots of men (and it's all men) seem to be getting their jollies out of fantasizing somehow "getting back" at the female sex. So be it. The problem is not the specific fetish. It's the domination of the mainstream by a particular one. And "gonzo", as it became around the turn of the century (John Stagliano's original, almost gentle, movies have nothing to do with this crap), seems to totally dominate b-g porn, at least in the in-your-face loudness of both its consumers and producers. The options one is left with, if not willing to witness some sociopath's ego trip or some bizarre kind of athletic feat, is either the posh b-g sites like X-Art and its myriad copycats, or the new kind of g-g that was developed in Europe around 1999-2002, and then copied (and good thing too that it was) by the specialist US studios like GFF. The big problem is that these specialist US studios are now dominated by a single fetish as well, to wit "Mommy porn". US specialist lez these days is all older/younger, faux-incest, blackmailing/browbeating scenarios and the like, with studios like Filly basically becoming fetish providers. So, expect us refugees who originally came to lez to (gasp!) see pretty young women have good natured sex with other pretty young women to up stakes again and look elsewhere. Imp. Edited by - Imperator on 1/5/2014 7:11:29 AM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jan 5 2014 : 7:30AM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jan 5 2014 : 8:12AM As I mentioned in one of the IR threads, my main problem with porn depictions of black men with white women (which is bizarrely what "IR" exclusively implies, as if other races or combinations didn't exist) is that for me it's incomprehensible why it's considered such a big deal. And why so much of it is done in the frankly racist way of it being a feat of endurance (or worse, humiliation) for the actresses. Sex is sex is sex, and I couldn't care less what colour the skin of the participants is. In fact give me a likeable black star like Sean Michaels or Franco Roccaforte (when he's not working for Rocco), than any of the myriad of sociopathic white ones. Like, well, Rocco :P And to bring it back on topic, one thing that is sadly missing from g-g is enough numbers of non-white models. I'm personally big time into Japanese women (but not so much black or Chinese ones - I'm racist I guess :P :D), and I'd love to see more of them work outside the often bizarre (but also often hot) world of JAV. What would I not give for Zuzana Z. or Eufrat to make a scene with Maki Tomoda (there's an "older/younger" scene I would pay good money to watch), or Rio Hamazaki, or Yumi Kazama (another proper "milf", as in "she's bloody hot, not just old"), or mega-babe Maria Ozawa. Imp. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 5 2014 : 9:59AM Few women are as attractive as any regular Japanese wearing a yukata [Link] |
| draghixafan Senior Member Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 7:52AM If not, why is practically ALL porn like this???  [Link] |
| draghixafan Senior Member Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 7:54AM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 2:15PM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 5:11PM But talk of minorities and majorities is actually a red herring. This is not a zero-sum game. More "quality" (=non woman-hating) porno doesn't mean less gonzo, at least not immediately. A smaller market share does not equal a smaller volume if the market grows. After all X-Art and its million imitators are doing very healthy business without affecting the production volumes of Woman Hating Shit, at least not in the short term. All they do is reach an audience that would otherwise not watch any porn, or not consume large amounts of it beyond the immediate masturbation needs of the average divorced man/businessman on a business trip. The consuming public can, (and actually does) grow beyond those with a grudge against women. It even includes women viewers. I'm sure that there are other niches, nasty as well as nice, that could be developed and find their viewing public that is now a "minority" in that it doesn't actually have any supply to serve its demand. But this is a copycat "industry" (and I use the latter term very charitably) that is terrified of innovation to the point of cowardice. If John Stagliano didn't obsess about his personal fetish in the late 80s there wouldn't be a "gonzo" today, and the "industry" would happily keep on churning out 4 b-g + 1 ridiculous lez one-day-wonder video "movies" even today. Similarly, in girl-girl, if Viv Thomas, Anna Span and the rest weren't forced by UK censorship to emphasize kissing, foreplay and full body shots and de-emphasize dildos and closeups, there wouldn't be a new template that proved massively successful in practice (Pink Velvet sold like hotcakes, and there wasn't a dildo in sight) and was copied rseligiously by all the companies that came after on both sides of the pond. Lez would still mean dildos and rubber gloves like in Bruce Seven's day. They told us in the 90s that natural boobed women in porn didn't sell, but when the ex-commie natural goddesses flooded the scene and flat-chested US beauties like Jenna Haze had monster careers, then a boobjob was not a requirement of porn survival any more. The accusation that "you are in the minority" whenever you express dissatisfaction with the status quo, is just an excuse to never innovate and to not fix something that is most definitely broke. Imp. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 5:34PM There's hopeSkin Diamond was even raised in Scotland and in my non British ears she does have a sexy accent! [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 5:49PM If I could renege on my pledge to resign from this thread (see my earlier post) just for a moment I'd like to make one final observation: doesn't the production of so-called 'woman hating shit' require the consent and co-operation of (certain) women? Edited by - N00dlesDaddy on 1/6/2014 5:58:48 PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 5:56PM the production yes , but not all the customers want it I surely don't , and there are some actors who are unnecessarily harsh while shooting. There are only few times I can enjoy such treatment when I know for sure the performer wants it that way , Leya Falcon had to convince Mandingo to go hard on her and even harder up the ass and yet she said he wasn't doing that as hard as she wanted. the scene has yet to be released Edited by - LCF on 1/6/2014 5:58:49 PM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jan 6 2014 : 8:45PM When did I ever say anything about coercion or consent? That would make me even more off-topic than I actually was :). Imp. [Link] |
| tacticalpiss Member 276 Posts 2/10 | Posted - Jan 7 2014 : 4:49PM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jan 8 2014 : 2:04AM The best g/g porn - in my opinion - is set in women's prisons (clichéd though that is). One of the very first pornos I ever saw was an all-girler called 'Porn In the Pen'. Don't ask me who was in it but it was fucking hot. For me to find g/g spankable, there has to be some nasty, sleazy aspect. I do like JM Productions' all-girl gangbang series, 'The Violation of...' I know a lot of you on here are into the touchy-touchy kissy-kissy g/g stuff and that's fine. Just remember it's different strokes for different folks. Let's all just get along, eh? [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jan 8 2014 : 3:56AM I agree, it's a very hot set-up if it's well made, and unfortunately it's almost never made, well or not. Exceptions: There was the Girls Gone Bad series in the 90s. Despite being 90s lez (=no kissing, no foreplay, 100% oral, lots of toys), some episodes were rather decent on the strength of exceptional casting: Tianna, Jenna Wells, Sharon Mitchell, these ladies KNEW oral. They're not great videos, but are definitely worth a butcher's. People over in LLV swear by the Bound Heat series which I've never seen as it is softcore. The best I have seen in an old Michel Ricaud (late 1980s) romp for Marc Dorcel: "Étreintes à la prison de femmes" http://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/e00040 (database entry) http://www.dorcelshop.com/en/Etreintes-a-la-prison-de-femmes/510/id-510.aspx (Dorcel store) Most of the appeal lies in the wonderful Marie Noelly. Bear in mind that this is France in the 80s so bush is still king (great news for those of us who are turned off by the universal shaving fad). Like most of Ricaud's videos it is a "fantasy" set-up really (a prostitute with a lesbian woman pimp?). Michel Ricaud always made the best male fantasies. In fact you could tell they were his own fantasies: travelling salesmen blackmailing their female customers and even their boss into having sex (La tour de Manie Velle); truckdrivers frolicking with highway hookers (Les Putes De L'Autoroute); hotel bellboys dreaming about female customers and being exploited by them (Souris D'Hotel); bakers' wives deceiving them under their nose right in the bakery (Les Miches De La Boulangere). I can imagine Michel having worked for a spot as a truckdriver, travelling salesman (or bellboy), or that he fantacised on getting down with some baker's hot wife. So "Etreintes" is a fantasy. Marie is a hooker with a female lesbian pimp. A disgruntled customer sends her down on some pretext. She goes through the cavity search (though no hosing down, that is not a French stereotype it seems), becomes the bitch of the veteran inmates stage, before she eventually takes over. There is OF COURSE a communal showers scene, but it's a strange one. Her pimp ends up in the same slammer and finds out that Marie doesn't need her any more. She tries to off herself but is revived by the lesbian nurse in the infirmary. They both get released but now Marie is the pimp and the former pimp is the hooker. It's fun. Imp. If I remember well (perhaps I got this info off Woodman in his own forum, but I can't remember), this was shot in a genuine disused prison, either a 19th century one or juvenile detention centre and Michel Ricaud found it and thought that he just HAD to shoot a couple of flicks in it (he made a b-g title after "Etreintes", again with Marie in it but in only one scene - "Chantage Des Femmes" http://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/c00044). But all that is from my atrocious memory, so any and all may be entirely misleading. [Link] |
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| Lezlover Member 527 Posts 9/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2014 : 5:26PM This is what it said when I bought it, and it was the sole reason I bought it. 'Throw in a perky cheerleader orgy , and you've got the sexiest day ever spent in a library since... ever! Needless to say, after watching said 'orgy' I fired off a rather angry email to new sensations citing trade description violation and to their credit they apologized profusely and changed the layout and description on the back cover to what it is now. I didn't bother going through all the hoopla of getting my money back so I guess you could say I was robbed twice, once literally. [Link] |
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