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BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 6:24PM
Do they make NAS enclosures (diskless)? Why can't I find piece-meal parts like all other computer components (for a DIY project)?
I'm not referring to 1-3 bay NASes, but 4-5 bay systems. A small ATX mini tower is much cheaper to make, than a 5 bay NAS (but you don't get the space savings like the NAS).
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 8:20PM
What you are typically paying for is all the parts pre-assembled and working as well as the OS sitting on the device, usually embedded. But as you've said, the hardware is garden-variety stuff.
For a DIY rig, go grab FreeNAS and then snag this tutorial.
BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Nov 22 2009 : 12:16PM
Thanks Lube.
I was spoiled in a previous job where I used a Thecus (5200 maybe?), but I know a 4-5 bay Thecus is out of my price range.
I just have always found it funny that a 4 bay NAS is 4x a cost of a 5-6 bay mini-tower (including a cheap 6-channel SATA-II mobo and 1000bT NIC). But I forgot about the embedded OS and mini-motherboard.
Thanks again.
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Nov 22 2009 : 12:22PM
Oh wow, I've drooled over the Thecus enclosures. They are very nice but even a diskless one of those runs over $300. Like you, I really don't get why NAS enclosures are so expensive. There are a few more components in there than your average tower system....the removable drive chassis, the additional fans (sometimes), built in hardware controllers and a few other things. But not enough to warrant the prices.
I did buy the ReadyNAS DUO simply because it was so freakin' small. It is literally smaller than a 2-year old Seagate external hard drive I've got and it holds two hot-swappable drives and has 3 more USB ports. I set that one up as our family iTunes server and as a central backup point for my wifes scrapbooking pics and all the kids' laptops. For the money, I'm happy with it as it is so small. I set this up at our kitchen desk where my wife does all her photo stuff...she can just pop her card into the reader and it goes right to the NAS and is now redundantly backed up as well. A minitower there would have looked atrocious.
BYOB_Kenobi
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“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
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Posted - Nov 22 2009 : 6:30PM
Yeah, it was the N5200, which has come down in price recently (thought it was $700-800 just last year). It was awesome and I like Thecus's hot-swappable design they use for >= 4 bay NASes.
I still don't get it either. Seriously, if I had a machine shop and materials, I would give it a wack and try to make my own. Maybe I would need to have it controlled by PC, but I think I could design an enclosure with power, fan & maybe ethernet board (RJ-45), all for fraction the cost.
It doesn't make much business sense to me, to price NASes out of common SOHO users budgets. Especially as people's digital collections continue to grow bigger (and I'm not talking about those 1-3 bay NASes).
 
BYOB_Kenobi
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“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
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Posted - Nov 22 2009 : 8:31PM
BTW, for a fellow ADTer into NASes, you might be interested in a review I just read. In spite of sounding uber-nerdy, the new WD 2GB 7200RPM drives look like they deliver huge. Beat the VelociRaptor in a bunch of benchies over atTHG.
Now if these WD 2GB drives would just fall in price to $100-150...
cubesnake
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Posted - Nov 30 2009 : 1:04PM
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LubeNLuv
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Posted - Nov 30 2009 : 4:19PM
That one box would replace my entire hodgepodge of NAS devices I've got at the house. Do want.
cubesnake
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Posted - Dec 1 2009 : 4:56AM
I know what you mean :) but what would be the best way to set this up ? RAID5 ? RAID 6 ? Either way you still live with the fear of the loosing the controler one day. Any way you calculate it ... a huge amount of digital data is really not sooo much fun as it may sound first
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Edited by - cubesnake on 12/1/2009 4:57:32 AM
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Dec 2 2009 : 1:48AM
I'm pushing almost 16 terabytes of porn now and counting. Not all of this is redundant via RAID....maybe half of it is. So in reality, I'm hosting almost 25 terabytes of porn. I only mirror those files I've already indexed, which takes me a lot of time. I've actually started to cull my collection as I went through a phase where I'd subscribe to a website for a month, download the entire site, and then come back to it later to see what was worth keeping. A lot isn't, I've just not gotten back to it yet.
I think I've digital OCD. :(
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Dec 8 2009 : 11:33PM
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