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JerkThemOff
Member

28 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 4 2009 : 5:47PM
Hi everybody!!
I'm french so please excuse my english if it's bad.
I would like to congratulate all the people who take care of this site because it's awesome!
In porn, what i love is when women jerk men to completion at the end of the scenes. But most of the time, men do it themselves.
First of all I would like to know why. Perhaps is it more easy for actors. But in this case, they can jerk off and when they're about to come, they can let the lady do it. It's a lot more exciting for those who watch and for actors too. I'm not the only one to think that because a lot of people whith whom i've talked are agree with me.
Second, I've noticed that when actresses jerk guys off, they stop when men start cumming and everybody knows that it's not good for men's orgasms. So please ladies, when you decide to jerk a man off, keep doing until he's completly dry!!
So I want to change this and the better way is to post this topic, hoping maybe that directors, actors or actresses will read it.
I also would like to know if you do agree with me and what we can do to change things.
thank you
stinkfist
Senior Member

Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Dec 4 2009 : 6:05PM
It always looks hotter when a girl finishes the guy off,some scenes are ruined when the guy takes matters into his own hands so to speak and beats off for what seems like an eternity until he cums.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Your other left
14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - Dec 4 2009 : 6:42PM
It is the editor's fault that we see anybody jerking off for a long period of time. Maybe they get requests from women to show it. I don't know.
As for the masturbation-to-climax norm, I suspect that directors find it more reliable, and probably quicker, to have the guys do the work themselves. While having the guy 'hand off' to the female when he's about to cum sounds nice in theory, it is probably a chancy proposition in practice. If the cameraman misses the shot then the director is out of luck. Well, unless the guy is capable of multiple cum shots, but those guys are few and far between.
The camera is probably the reason why the actresses stop when the guy starts to cum - the director wants the 'shot' to end up in front of where the camera is pointing, rather than flying all over the set. Having said that, I've seen instances exactly as you describe, but they've been the exception.
Boob Enthusiast
Member

91 Posts
3/08
Posted - Dec 4 2009 : 8:25PM
In my opinion, the cumshot isn't even worth showing if the dude has to jerk himself off to achieve it. The woman should ALWAYS cause the dude to cum. Otherwise, it just ruins the fantasy.
After all, I don't fantasize about fucking Sunny Lane or Sasha Grey, and then at the last minute whipping my dick out and jerking myself off. That would be silly, and a waste of good semen.
If for some reason, a porn dude is so jaded and/or insensitive that he can't climax at the hands of a beautiful woman, then I wish they'd just have him do an internal cumshot. If he really and truly can't get off, then he could just fake his orgasm. I don't care. I don't really understand porn's obsession with male bodily fluids anyway.
Would be much more interested to see some at least plausibly realistic female orgasms--something that's severely lacking in porn.


Bit Bucket
New Member

1 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 4 2009 : 10:12PM
AMEN!
Women should always finish the job. I lose all interest in any scene where the guy finishes himself.
 
pornlaw
Member

578 Posts
10/05
Posted - Dec 4 2009 : 10:20PM
A lot of male talent have a hard time popping and usually it is easier for them to take care of it themselves. It also makes it easier for the director to catch the pop with the right angle.
As for the female orgasm in porn -- hahaha thats funny. Most of the women arent there for the sex. And there's nothing erotic or sensual about sex on a porn set. It is usually quite cold and clinical.
Unfortunately this is not likely to change. Start watching scenes where the female and male talent are actually in a relationship and you might see more of a connection. Remember most scenes involve people who may not have ever met prior to the scene.
Michael
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billywatson
Manojob.com

939 Posts
1/07
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 3:06AM
When I started TheDickSuckers.com, I didn't care who finished...and I think the male talent in Porno Land like to finish themselves cause they can usually get a bigger blast than when female talent does it. Then, I started getting negative feedback on this. It really surprised me at first, cause as a porno watcher, I didn't care...as long as the chick got blasted. So, when I got the member feedback on this, it was strong, and it made me stop what I was doing and make the girls finish the job at TheDickSuckers. It's been that way almost 2 years now.
Same with MrPOV.com
At Manojob.com, I always had the girls finish...cause it was a handjob site.
JerkThemOff
Member

28 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 3:37AM
hi Billy!!
I know your manojob site and it's one of my favourite.
Especially at the beginning, there were a lot of big black cocks being jerked. And I love to see women jerk big black cocks.
But in the recent updates, it's only white cocks. Why do big black cocks have disappeared? Is it possible to them call back?
thank you
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 8:15AM
I think the jerk-to-pop finish is simply a really bad habit perpetuated...its one of those "always been done that way" things that has stuck in the collective porn world. As is evidenced by a growing number of scenes where it is clearly NOT necessary, I don't buy the whole "well camera angles are better when they do, etc." bullshit. What it MEANS is that you require better camera work and/or more engaged performers, BOTH of which greatly benefit the quality of the scene. If it CAN be done, the question becomes WHY don't more people do it?
Clearly there is still some percentage (maybe even majority) of the porn population who doesn't mind watching a male masturbation video for the last few minutes of the scene. They pipe up in these types of threads often talking about the quality of the pop/scene/spray/facial as being the reason they prefer watching a guy play with himself to watching a girl do the honors. But I think these jerk-to-pop scenes are just the lazy pornographers way of making a quick(er) buck. Those who know how to get a better porn scene take the time to do so, or just get lucky by getting a couple who generate some real chemistry.
JerkThemOff
Member

28 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 9:03AM
Hi kantabcd!! thanks
I agree with you, i don't like when a man cum inside pussy or ass either.
Like you, I love to see sperm on girl's face and tongue but if women have made the guys pop with their own hands.
I think that it's much more exciting when women control men's orgasm. And each man knows that the pleasure is better, right?


NewRomancer
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738 Posts
7/08
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 11:46AM
Guys jerking themselves off is the major reason I don't buy much porn...
TheCuriousDizzle
Member

91 Posts
11/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 1:38PM
While it doesn't bother me a ton... the part I can't figure out is why not edit it out? I don't get the lazy editing in some movies where the dude beats it for like 5 minutes.
Porn isn't real life. EDIT THAT SHIT OUT. I'm not as annoyed by the beating off being there at all... I'm annoyed that if it takes 10 damn minutes for the dude to finish the job, some lazy directors leave the whole block of it in there.
Bobcat
Senior Member

1490 Posts
2/08
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 1:55PM
I agree, it's much better if the chick does the beating!
Problem is a lot of chicks don't have the strength and stamina in there arms/wrists to stroke a dick for more than a couple of minutes.
BigLou
Member

57 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 2:14PM
There is a trend these days to have the chick do the jerking. I concur it is the best way to finish. I think the custom of not finishing inside started because it was more cinematic to finish outside.
JerkThemOff
Member

28 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 2:21PM
I think you're right but in this case why guys don't begin to jerk and when they feel they are going to pop, they let the lady finishing it!! It's easy to do and much more exciting!!
I totally agree with you. I only buy movies where there are several handjobs at the end of scenes. For that, I read reviews of this site and I want to thank LSB, Den and many others because in most of their reviews, they tell us how the scenes are finishing.
 
Dread
Senior Member

Latex and boobs
5085 Posts
3/07
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 2:25PM
I usually end up skipping the finish of a scene most times.I was never big on cumshots anyway. I'm all about the sex and BJ's
----Dread----
Joris33
Member

8 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 3:21PM
I hate that too, but I just look hard, there are (mostly ammateur) movies that show you a girl sucking a guy dry. Heather Brooke is known for her deep-troath, but at the end the guy always had to cum for the camera, that sucks like hell. It's way better to see a girl that keeps sucking, especially when you see some cum dripping out of her mouth.
just_me
Member

133 Posts
4/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 3:33PM
Unfortunately my refusal to view, and consequently my refusal to purchase such porn, is not likely to change either
I know it's not your fault, this is just a reminder to any onlooking porn producers that too I have no interest in most of what is made.
billywatson
Manojob.com

939 Posts
1/07
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 7:39PM
Thanks for the compliments!
I shoot IR only for the Dogfart family of sites.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 8:22PM
Because women always dodge if they know which way to go.
franco
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766 Posts
1/08
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 8:37PM
billy, why do u shoot the same girls all the time on the sites.
there are hot girls out there that do the stuff you film and are new.
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Sara Beth from Ocmodeling.
I hear people talk about your sites but it seems they are all Kylie, Julia Ann, india summer, janet mason, etc.
Dubious_Leftovers
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And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me...
1423 Posts
3/09
Posted - Dec 5 2009 : 9:32PM
Men know the rhythm of their own bodies. It's 90% mental. If sex with hot girls is regular enough (as it is for male performers), a woman's touch isn't automatically what's needed to finish the scene.
A guy wanking of, knows the rhythm and intensity need to climax - more often than not the girl plays no part in this, as they probably have to go into their own heads and conjure up a fantasy to finish. Bare in mind the experience is VERY different to that of the porn viewer. It's far more difficult than it appears.
This type of beef in porn, should be aimed more at the editor or director than male talent.
LubeNLuv
Senior Member

1854 Posts
3/06
Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 12:30AM
^^ I think thats just an excuse. The real reason guys on porn sets aren't that turned on by their female counterparts?
1) Overworked
2) Little Blue Pill
3) Straight for Pay
4) Bright lights and start-stop-action means they gotta beat off constantly if they aren't using the pill, making their dicks pretty damn well desensitized.
5) They aren't into the female at all. As in, she's not even ranking "cock socket" levels of arousal for him. Could be all the above.
It has nothing to do with landing the shot. Women are more than capable of aiming it at themselves and professionals know what the hell they are doing. Hell, amateurs can do it. Hell, my WIFE can do it.
Unless you are fucking Helen Keller on cam, there is no reason at that she can't finish the job. Unless the guy just flat out doesn't WANT her to.
JerkThemOff
Member

28 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 2:33AM
You're welcome, I mean it!
Are you sure? because at the very beginning of manojob, girls like Avy Lee Roth, Gianna, Adrianna Nichole... did jerk off black men.
If you shoot for dogfart, is it you that shoot gloryhole.com?
bissy
Senior Member

Nikki Sexx is superhot !!!!
7066 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 3:43PM
i completely agree with this....its much better if the woman does the end part...better still cumpies
Edited by - bissy on 12/7/2009 3:28:16 AM
 
Girlyman
Deactivated User

29 Posts
10/06
Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 4:26PM
I think that cum shots are gay, period. When I'm watching a porn, I'm watching to see the woman get off or have an orgasm which, sadly doesn't happen that often. I have always found it interesting that the "end" of the scene is when the guy pops. That's just so gay to me. I really don't want to see the guy getting pleasure like that while the girl just sits there like a baby bird awaiting the flood of cum. It's pretty disgusting, really. I would much rather not see that at all and see the focus of the scene move to the woman's orgasm as the finale. But that's not going to happen anytime soon since porn producers have it in their heads that the end of the scene is the pop shot. As to why the guy has to finish himself, well he's fucking a stranger who doesn't really know him or know what gets him off. So of course it's going to be easier to just do it himself most times.
htb066
Member

69 Posts
11/08
Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 4:48PM
I prefer it when the guy gets himself off at the end, as long as the interminable jerking off is edited out. I like to see a good facial, and it seems like in every scene where the girl finishes off the guy, it just goes on her chin, or if it goes in her mouth she spits it out. I've never seen a good facial when the girl finishes off the guy.
Edited by - htb066 on 12/6/2009 4:51:42 PM
Dubious_Leftovers
Senior Member

And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me...
1423 Posts
3/09
Posted - Dec 6 2009 : 11:39PM
You listed a variety of things that can also (and very often do) contribute, but it still contributes to my point that being a male porn star is actually very difficult...
Attraction is very deep thing; if your job is to fuck on cue, someone who is merely good looking won't have the same appeal ongoing. There are far deeper things at work...
Guys on here moan about male porn stars not performing up to the standard they'd like them to perform at, as if they can do better... I guarantee it is not the case.
just_me
Member

133 Posts
4/09
Posted - Dec 7 2009 : 1:42AM
Porn is a business, and we have every right to moan about male porn stars not performing up to the standard we are willing to pay for.
Porn can usually be turned into a sports analogy, and this is no different. If my sports team plays terrible all season, I'm going to complain about it. I'm going to buy fewer tickets, less merchandise, watch them on t.v. less often. Because I can't hit a 90mph slider, shoot a 3-pointer consistently, or block a 300lb lineman, does not mean I should throw away my money on a losing team that fails to entertain. I hold back on the cash to force the GM to replace the losers with new athletes.
And let's be real, this ain't rocket surgery we're demanding, all we're asking is for a pornstar to jerk off a guy. It has been done before, it can be done again.
Edited by - just_me on 12/7/2009 4:33:59 AM
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Dec 7 2009 : 7:39AM
As I always say, I don't have a problem with the pop shot and in fact, love it. To me, it's the one thing that can save an otherwise worthless scene. That is, if you have a scene that is poorly done but has a good pop shot, you can at least get off to the sight of a beautiful babe submitting to having a load of jizz deposited on her face or in her mouth. For those of us who like it, it's like nothing else.
mapofhawaii
Senior Member

1050 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 12:22PM
I really don't understand this point of view. If this bothers you so much, and you just want to see the woman get off, why not watch g/g or solo female scenes? If the answer is because of the fantasy of you as the viewer vicariously being in the scene as the guy, why does watching that part of it bother you more than the rest. When a girl is blowing the buy, you see the cock. Do you want them to start pixelating that? Sorry, I don't mean to jump on you. I just don't get why this bothers people so much. It's not like the girl is out of the scene altogether, with just some guy beating off.
Edited by - mapofhawaii on 2/14/2010 12:23:17 PM



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