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This is a slightly different angle on the thread that we seem to get 10 of a week. So sick of seeing the threads, honestly. Certain white girls not doing black guys? What is the real issue here regarding why people actually care? I am white. I personally I couldn't give a fuck if a girl, does / does not do a black guy or any certain performer for whatever reason. If there was a black woman not sleeping with white guys I also would not give a fuck. I generally do not give a fuck regarding this issue... clearly some people must disagree with this view... Edited by - joel on Dec 16 2009
Here's what I'd like to see: an IR film where there aren't constant references to the ethnicity of the performers. No "I like that big black dick fucking my tight white pussy", etc. That's what I find annoying about IR films, the implicit racist narrative about the innocent white girl being violated by a virile black stud.
If you were a black guy, then you probably would want to see your favorite porn stars do it with black studs once in a while. Because it's a lot easier to imagine yourself doing the porn lady, when her stud looks a lot like you look. You don't care probably because your favorite porn stars do white guys all the time. And you have no problem with feeling under-represented in porn movies.
I usually try and stay out the IR threads but what the hell. Why is sex with a black man considered a fetish genre? Basically just calling interracial sex unnatural but sex with a white man isn't. You don't hear about chicks holding out from sex with a white guy because they will get paid a larger sum of money from it. If you're white and trying to understand why a black person would care about IR porn just stop. I don't think you really will understand simply because you're not black. You don't know what it's like to walk in a black man's shoes or deal with the things a black person may have to deal with on a daily basis. Edited by - iramaj1 on 12/16/2009 10:18:50 PM
Man I'm with you. I had no idea people were so fucking obsessed with interracial porn until I started reading the forums here. It's ridiculous and, in my opinion, really says a lot about some of the infantile views on race and sexuality a lot of people have.
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Posted - Dec 16 2009 : 11:51PM
probably because black guys don't get off on seeing white women fuck white men, they know this same girl would probably refuse to have sex with them because of their race, so white on white porn doesn't do much for a black guy. anyway why start a new thread about interracial Edited by - braziliandude on 12/16/2009 11:52:57 PM
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Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 12:33AM
There's no such thing as inter-racial.... There is only one race of human beings.
Why did the chicken cross the road?...so he wouldn't have to read another IR thread. Personally, I like interracial scenes...but another thread? Run, chicken, Run!
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Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 9:38AM
I don't buy into this. I look nothing like Peter North, Ron Jeremy, Eric Everhard, or any other white male I've ever seen in a porno and I have no problem watching them fuck women. For that matter, considering the color of my skin, I look even less like Lexington Steele or Mr. Marcus and I have no problem watching their scenes either. To me if you are focusing on the man in the scene (unless you are Savoy, Pagoda, Gore Gore Girl, Melpster, etc.) you are missing the point.
I don't really. Do I enjoy those type scenes, yeah but it's not the be all end all of my porn watching experience, I enjoy several types of scenes. But what I don't enjoy in a b/g scene regardless of skin color is when the guy has a weak load. I don't care if your cock is 12 inches long, if when it arrives at Money shot time and you can only work out a few dribbles then your dick size becomes irrelevant to me.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 1:46PM
probably because you know the guy who's fucking the girl could be you since they wouldn't turn down a white guy?, now how many black guys can say the same?.
And how is this going to change by creating 5 million threads about it? Up until 2 weeks or so ago I didn't even know ADT exists and this IR bickering is already getting on my nerves. I can only imagine how annoying it must be after one has been exposed to it for a couple years straight. I find it mind-boggling how race appears to be still so much of an issue on the other side of the Atlantic. (And I'm pretty sure most of us guys here don't look like it might as well be us in those scenes.)
That's just retarded. How many people outside of porn have honestly fucked a porn star? Some white girls prefer black guys. Not sure about porn, but some white women only fuck black guys. LLvladk read on - If there was a black woman not sleeping with white guys I also would not give a fuck. Did it ever occur to you the reason a white women won't fuck a black guy, might have nothing to do with race? People just jump on the band wagon 'cos it's easy to do so.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 4:38PM
you're missing the point, it's not about having sex with a porn star, it's the notion of a white girl acccepting to have sex with a black guy that is appealing to black guys, white guys don't usually get rejected because of their race and if they ever do they don't really care, it's like calling nicole kidman ugly she will just laugh it off but call an unattractive girl ugly and see how you'll get to her, so white men don't care if they ever get rejected because of their race because like it or not white people rule the world, the comparison is stupid.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 4:57PM
I think we should restrict almost all IR talk to a few sticky threads so we can avoid having it spill into every other thread on the forum. Anyway, to address the OP, I can see why black men would like to see an attractive performer do IR, but it's the constant harping, insults and attacks on those who haven't done it yet I find unbearable on here. There are performers who have even said they plan on doing IR eventually, and they still get insulted and attacked. I also don't buy the idea that you have to watch someone of the same race in a scene, I don't care if the male performer is white, black or asian as long as they have chemistry with the girl they're performing with. I have no problems identifying with a male performer of any race. One thing I do find odd though is it seems like many of the IR obsessives are black, but you practically NEVER see them talk about black porn stars. Don't they like to see black women fucking? I know I do, a lot. With white or black men, doesn't make a difference to me.
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Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 4:58PM
Me, I would rather have Susan Boyle shit on my face than read this thread.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 5:05PM
BlackSix people always say that but i'm yet to see a performer get insulted or attacked on this board for not doing IR, never seen that happen, i'm sure it must have happened but i've never seen it, i've seen interracial fans get insulted though, not on this board but that happens all the time on FO, it's ok to say you don't like a girl because she doesn't do anal but if someone says they don't watch a certain girl because she doesn't do interracial they all gang up on him in a most disrespectful manner.
Edited by - braziliandude on 12/17/2009 5:13:32 PM
^ I remember reading criticisms of stars a bunch of times - or perhaps you mean openly attacking the performer herself? Well, that would get you deactivated, so you don't see that a lot (though I have seen it once or twice in my short time here). I'm with Blacksix - it's ironic that the people so obsessed with IR, apparently from some kind of progressive position, are so totally obsessed with white women doing black guys - where's the love for the black women, who are also horribly underrepresented in porn (and the rest of media too)? Personally, I find racism troubling, but I also find the total under-representation of fat women troubling. That, however, is taken as a given, because "who would want to see *that*??"
Most of the audiance for black man on white woman interracial is white, so I would expect most of those complaining about certain girls not doing IR here are also white. As a white interracial fan my issue is the BS you get from the dodgers. Sorry but I don't believe the preference excuse, expecially when some of them are perfectly willing to take on 3 or 4 scruffy ass white guys at the same time. The dodgers really should just keep their mouths shut about the issue.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 6:02PM
"Gore Gore Girl" i see , i don't visit here very often i just check the interracial threads to see if there's something new that's probably the reason i've never seen that happen. now porn with black women , i don't think that really sells, never found any in the video stores here, i mean where i live. Edited by - braziliandude on 12/17/2009 6:03:57 PM
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 6:08PM
i agree with you but i think going to their threads just to start thoube is inappropriate, as long as they don't do like that other chick (you all know who i mean) that one who would hijack every interracial thread to dump a bunch of racist crap, some of the most retarded and insulting posts ever posted here just to play victim later i have no problem with them. as long as they mind their business i'm ok with them. Edited by - braziliandude on 12/17/2009 6:11:04 PM
So not true. In fact, a lot of times I never even notice when a girl never does IR. It's not that I don't like white/white, because some of it's pretty hot. Just as a pure style issue, though, sometimes the contrast in skin color makes a good scene even better.So true. And it's not like when you see some asian flicks. JAV movies are COMPLETELY different, filming style, language, everything, from the way most movies are filmed, that I don't mind seeing JAV movies marketed as different. Black flicks, they toss in a few slurs, a few awkward box covers and lazily call it a day. ---- Honestly, as said, I sometimes don't even notice. I didn't know Vicki Vette wouldn't do black guys until I was here(still not sure, cause I didn't read it myself, but it proves my point. And I still enjoy her scenes. Being socially backwards doesn't make anyone less hot). However, it's a LOT different going on record about it. As if it's okay. And people let them get away with it. A funny example that I've been noticing at work a lot these days. A man walks out of an otherwise empty bathroom without washing his hands. Bad, but not awkward. Now, imagine you're at the sink washing your hands, and someone walks out of the stall after dropping a duece, gives you the jazz hands, then walks out. THAT's the equivalent of going on record as someone who won't have sex with black men. As for some of the rest of it, what does it say about a girl if they do interviews about loving sex, talk about how handsome guys turn them on, then openly talk about how they wouldn't do some dude, even models, guys who love sex as much as they do, or the coolest, most considerate guys in the world based on skin color. That's why people care.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 7:02PM
if you didn't know vicki vette doesn't do black guys then you're not an interracial fan, that's the first thing interracial fans search for when they find a girl they think is hot. we all have our different needs, girls who don't do black guys don't even get me hard (no joke) no matter how hot they are, they do nothing for me i can't help it, i don't know what happened to me i wasn't like that when i first started watching porn back in 2004
Edited by - braziliandude on 12/17/2009 7:12:33 PM
An IR fan who likes Vicky Vette but who doesn't know of her stance on IR is hard to believe. So much has been written and said about Vicky Vette over the years that it's very hard to miss it.
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Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 9:01PM
It's been going on for far too long, but not that long. The IR whinefest moved over here from another forum this past summer. There were even warnings posted by one or two people familiar with the participants from the other forum that exactly what has happened, would happen. Unfortunately, these warnings were ignored.I see very little indication that the IR trolls are actually interested in adult video, or sex in general. It appears to be mostly, if not strictly, about keeping track of who to have a grudge against, and reveling in being aggrieved, and using the anonymity of the internet to whine or lash out at people who they mistakenly believe owe them something.
There are plenty of white women outside of porn who don't sleep with black men. Not to mention black women that won't sleep with white men, black men that don't sleep with white women, white men that don't sleep with black women, etc. Not even getting into combinations involving, jews, latinos, asians, arabs, Indians (Sub continent), etc. There should be written about beautiful black porn stars, black women (inside & outside of porn) that sleep with white men, and other positive but less covered aspects of IR sex, porn, & relationships.
I believe the american black polulation is around 12 or 13% now so this really should be a much smaller issue than what we see on the forums. The latino population is exploding and you can defintely see it in porn, especially the female performers. I'll admit as a middle aged white man I do not get off seeing my favorite stars do black guys but I understand that's their prerogative and I don't think less or more of them either way. I just prefer watching them do white guys.
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Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 12:47AM
I find this to be a rather negative view. First of all, I think it's safe to say that white guys get rejecetd all the time because of their race by women of other races. While I personally have been rejected by women of races different than my own (as well as by women within my race), the rejection has never been on the basis of race. Of course, it's possible that could have been the reason, but they just made up some other excuse. But I've never had a girl tell me that she couldn't date me because of my race. In the real world in which we live, such a response would be unacceptable. Plus, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with someone who thinks that way anyway. If a woman ever did say that, I would immediately consider her to be nothing more than trash, and take her rejection as more of a benefit than a loss to me. In the porn world, however, such attitudes are not unacceptable, and are even widely encouraged within the mostly white-controlled industry. As I've said many times before, it's not so much the girls who don't do IR that bother me. What I find most annoying are the racist views and practices by the industry as a whole. Maybe I'm being naive here, but I have no doubt that almost all of the white non-IR girls would do IR if the industry didn't make such a big deal of it.
It's not just black people who are complaining... As you are not white you don't know the shit we have to deal with on a daily basis either... but as you're black that's gotta be worse right and have more reason to whine? I truly am all for equality, some of my role models and people I admire are black. However incessant whining won't change the way things are, if white girls won't fuck black dudes because they are racist why would you ever want to even fuck an ignorant red-neck like that anyway?
Almost all good top porn stars fuck black guys and if not you can see a black guy fuck a white girl who is similar to the girl who doesn't do it. People need to get a grip and deal with it! After walking your life as a black man I would have thought you (and supposedly all the black men making IR whine threads) would have learned to deal with racism better than whining on a porn forum about it!
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 4:49AM
Both good points.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 5:43AM
that's what happens in europe, most english girls have done interracial, most french girls have done interracial, most dutch girls have done interracial heck even most italian, finnish and german girls have done interracial, there are virtually no black people in these countries.
Edited by - braziliandude on 12/18/2009 8:23:15 AM
I don't think the IR issue would have been a big deal if it was only less than 20 % of the girls refusing to do IR. The percentage of girls who refuse to do black men is over 60 % so it's a majority. When you have one or two people telling you that there is something wrong with you you don't usually care but when almost everybody tells you there is something wrong with you, it will get to you and you will start wondering.
I think there is a double standard in Society. Imagine if Palin said something like this : "I could never do a black man because I don't find any black person attractive" and the media gets hold of that tape. The same white liberals who see nothing with the IR issue in porn will jump on this opportunity to call her a racist. I'm not talking about blacks here because obviously they would have problem with it. The liberal white media will have fun with that for months. Black, white, asian or hispanic... I think people are all hypocrites who pick the fights that suits their interest. If latinos were the targets in porn, I'm sure blacks will tell them the same : "Deal with it".
Harri Patel I see very little indication that the IR trolls are actually interested in adult video, or sex in general. It appears to be mostly, if not strictly, about keeping track of who to have a grudge against, and reveling in being aggrieved, and using the anonymity of the internet to whine or lash out at people who they mistakenly believe owe them something. [/quote] Good post Harri Patel These are my thoughts on this matter as well. A few pornstars have left the site over the constant barrage of abuse on here. Edited by - pokerman on 12/18/2009 9:21:12 AM
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I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 10:04AM
First of all if she is fucking someone as (how do I put this tactfully)"photographically challenged" as Dirty Harry or just flat out annoying as Nick Manning then, no the guy could not be me. Trust me, I am living proof that girls turn down white guys all the time. I could fill an airplane hangar with the women who have turned me down in my lifetime.
I don't trust men who don't like big tits. 1067 Posts 12/04
Posted - Dec 18 2009 : 11:31AM
Huh? The fuck? Son I've been a fan of IR since the days of Billy Dee/Ray Victory/F.M. Bradley, when they were the goto black guys. So that's about 20 years before you started watching porn. Granted my being older and having a head start on you porn wise doesn't make me a bigger porn fan. There are different levels of porn fandom I suppose. Anyway...All of us don't have pornpedia memories/knowledge or keep up daily with porn industry news and gossip. I didn't know that Vicky didn't do IR, hell I didn't know Carmella Bing didn't also until I read so here. Surprised me for a minute then I moved on/got over it. They can fuck whoever they want. You're telling me I'm supposed to know if every chick I like does or doesn't do IR? If a chick catches my eye it usually means she has big tits or a nice ass. From there, if I'm going to look up her body of work, the first thing I look for is if she does anal. Then IR. So no it's not the first thing I look for. There are times when some chick is "outed" as not dong IR I just shrug. A lot of times I'll be like "You know now that I think about it, I have never seen her do..." and I shrug, because it's not the most important thing to me.
both llvladk and braziliandude picked one part of my post and ignored the point of the rest of it. so anyway,That isn't true. I've known for a while now, but that's because I read/post a lot on ADT. As much as I like porn, and like IR, if I just had a rental subscription, then how am I supposed to know? Lack of proof not being proof of lack and all that. Considering the relatively low membership on ADT compared to the astronomical percentage of people who've seen porn, I'd guess Vicki Vette has plenty of fans who are also IR fans, but just don't know. It's also kinda silly to tell me what kind of fan I am.What he said
Dani Daniels: The Iconic Collection - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Dec 16 2009 : 2:29PM
I had forgotten about that cartoon until now.
I would rather have Susan Boyle sit on my face than read this thread.
