I asked you before to make a thread about your smoke fetish and post there. Since you didn't listen, I'm making this your smoke fetish thread. Post all of your smoke fetish posts here please.
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| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 |  Posted - Feb 17 2011 : 8:50AMA "poorady" is my "thunk up" term for a porn parody done terribly wrong, and Diabolic's Sons of Anarchy recreation fits the bill completely. Someone should tell every adult film company making parodies (except New Sensations and Hustler) that in a parody, the characters MUST both look like their original counterparts and emulate their life style as much as possible---anything else, is NOT a parody, but a "poorady," imho. Diabolic's recreation begins with Lee Stone, "trying" to play the part of Ron Perlman's character as Sam Crow's Club President, alone in the club room having trouble playing pool, because of his Arthritic hands, and from that scene onward, the film deviates more and more and MORE from the outstanding AMC original presentation. Sam Crow, as anyone who has seen the original series knows, is a "throwback" motorcyle club from the 50's and 60's, operating in the modern world and supporting itself by selling illegal weapons from Ireland to various buyers in the States, as well as making and distributing porn films. It is made up of a bunch of hard-drinking, heavy-smoking, brawling men, and likewise their women followers, living in and around the fictional city of Charming, California, where practically every successful venture is followed by an orgy--simulated, of course on cable TV, but with what some explicit sex film director should have a "field day." NOW!, the viewer is introduced to Diabolic's version of Sam Crow, where we find ONE person drinking a beer in the entire film, NO ONE, neither man or woman, smoking a single cigarette, and NARY an orgy in the entire production, which has something to do with a "gun running" operaion and four or five "luke-warm," dis-jointed sex scenes, in which only one character role, that of the young club vice president, even remotely resembles the original cast. From a personal viewpoint, as a cigarette smoke fetishist, I had honestly thought that THIS TIME!, the "anti-smokeites" could not stop the fact that we MANY men who constantly seek porn films, with sexy cigarette-smoking women, would FINALLY get our wish, for, as previously mentioned, EVERY female character, except the "doctor," were constantly seen "lighting up" and smoking their cigarettes in the AMC series. BUTTT, that was NOT to be, as AGAIN, 99.99% of the men and women making porn nowadays, go out of their way to avoid filming cigarette-smoking scenes, "kow-towing," I guess, to the much more vocal "antis." Do you suppose adult film directors out there might actually think that by filming sexy porn stars dangling loooong all-white REAL cigarettes between their luscious, moist lips, some impressionable adult man or woman might suddenly pick up the habit? Whatever the reason, less than 3 out of 100 adult films produced in a given year incorporate sexy cigarette smoking women, and that completely ignores the fact that for every "anti," out here in the world of porn patronage, there is MOST DEFINITELY a WANTY! From time-to-time, however, a director will work in some male performer smoking a cigarette---about as sexually exciting for me as watching grass grow! Certainly, as you read this, you're thinking "sour grapes," from a disgruntled smoke fetishist, but COME ON!, NO HOT orgy scene in a film depicting Sam Crow--GET REAL! In conclusion, check out this "Diabolic Disaster," for yourself, and perhaps you'll agree--another porn POORADY! Edited by - Flash on Feb 17 2011 Edited by - Flash on Feb 18 2011 [Link] |
Flash  Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Feb 17 2011 : 10:20AM I asked you before to make a thread about your smoke fetish and post there. Since you didn't listen, I'm making this your smoke fetish thread. Post all of your smoke fetish posts here please. [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 17 2011 : 4:28PM Sorry, but I thought that rightfully complaining about some obvious deviation from the original in the re-creation of some porn parody would be permissable, even if it did include my rants against the obvious refusal of porn to recognize, on film, our female cigarette smoke fetish passion-- created, I might add, primarily by so many main-stream Hollywood presentations, and more recently, as a counter reactionary to so much adamant anti-smokeite pressure in our socety today. [Link] |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 9:30AM [Link] |
| Zen Master 2007 Member 356 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 9:47AM |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 12:04PM What we many smoke fetishist (Google "smoking fetish" and "smoking glamour") really WANT to see in porn, is frequent tight camera shots of sexy, shapely porn stars, dangling looong all-white cigarettes between their luscious lips (NO damn silly-looking holders or cigars) lighting up and inhaling deeply with accomplished sexy finesse, SOMEWHERE in the context of both the main body of the film AND within bts interview segments, where the knowledge that one of our fantasy dreams is a real life smoker is ESPECIALLY erotic to us. With somewhere between 65 and 70 per cent of the ladies in porn choosing to smoke as a part of their personal life style (based on my personal observations over the years of women on the club dance circuit and ESPECIALLY from attending various after-awards parties in Vegas, including this past January, btw) it CERTAINLY should be no trouble to find ACTUAL smokers, even though the lower echelon Kick Ass Pictures failed to do so for its smoking fetish series--a fact, discussed ad infintem on our many chat rooms and forums. btw, thanx Flash for changing the title of this thread for me, and, in time, you will see that it will most definitely grow as ever so slowly, many ADT followers will start to realize how absolutely LUDRICOUS it is for porn directors and producers to ignore our female smoking passion fetish that is growing now by leaps and bounds as a "backwash" to so much pressure from the anti-smokeites, constantly striving to squash out every smouldering cigarette on the planet, and I applaud them as long as that cigarette rests between the lips of any man or an ugly, mis-shapen woman, but NOT the luscious, moist lips (the "key" to the innate oral sexuality of smoking) of a gorgeous, full-breasted, slim-waisted, butt-jutting, sleek-legged woman---THEN its a vision of intense sexuality, ANYWHERE, but ESPECIALLY in any porn film, and THAT"S why I continue the battle. "Fight on, good men, Sir Andrew said, although wounded, not yet dead. I'll but lie down to bleed awhile, then rise again to fight the DREAD!" [Link] |
| torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 12:58PM I have a book of 420girls (IIRC) that shows numerous porn stars partaking. I think it was called Naked Girls Smoking Weed. I want to see more of that [Link] |
| UnkwnUsr2 Member 443 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 1:54PM [Link] |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 6:04PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 6:40PM As for the smoking, meh. [Link] |
| bsavage Member 112 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Feb 18 2011 : 8:54PM [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 19 2011 : 10:17AM Thus, what really gets my juices flowing, is when a sexy, shapely porn star, several times during her screen appearance, lights up a cigarette in the natural way an in real life smoker would do---if its during a feature film with tense situational dialogue, and plot, the cigarette light-up has always served as a stress relief for the smoker--a film technique used quite often by Hollywood directors, I might add, to accentuate the plot's crisis. "Pardon me, do you have a light," has launched more sexual relationships than all the pickup lines out there, but is this natural part of the-- man/woman relationship EVER shown in porn?--HELL NO!, and for the REAL KICKER, every female smoker I've ever "been with," reached for her cigarettes afterward, for its such a natural "unwinding" act for them, YET, in all my porn watching experience, I have seen only TWO such scenes, and I STILL remember the title of the film in which the scenes took place, "Turning Point," and will NEVER forget the film's sexual dynamics for me when first, the sensual Sydnee Steele, and later, ravishing Julia Ann, enjoyed smoking their cigarettes following the HOT (pun intended) sex scenes--Yes, these "never agains" happened in the same adult presentation, a Wicked Pictures production, directed by Jonathan Morgan, I believe. If only adult film writers and directors would realize how easy it would be for them to add smoking scenes with their female talent---Talking on the phone, in a car, sitting on a balcony, outside in a patio or by a swimming pool, ALL perfectly set up for natural, and for us, extremely sexy female cigarette smoking, but again, NADA! Now, regarding the extremely popular MILF/Cougar theme, a very effective way to contrast that older, more experienced attractive woman, stalking her young, naive prey, is through sexy cigarette light-up scenarios---It worked DAMN well in Hollywood's main stream classic film "The Graduate," but when it comes to porn's writers and directors incorporating sexy smoking scenarios as a part of the Cougar's seduction routine, the "steam streamers," are still in Kindegarten, for I have NEVER, and I mean never, found a single MILF film with such an approach. In conclusion, thanx again Stinkfist, and I trust that you can tell from this reply, the type of porn female cigarette smoking scenarios the majority of we smoke fetishist are always HOPING to find, but NEVER do ###### insert multiple closing expletives! [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Feb 19 2011 : 12:12PM I was trying to tell Mike Quaser the same thing in the thread about parodies. He said there is no integrity in making a parody. Which I strongly disagree with. I think there is no integrity in making a bad movie, which you just confirmed his parody is. I wonder if there is room to make a good SOA parody, or did they just ruin it for everybody else. I was the technical director on SOA season 2 for all the porn, I placed at least 10 porn girls as extras, I wanted to bring back those girls in the parody. Do it true to the real story. BTW it was one of the only sets we were allowed to smoke freely, they encouraged it. I also have a problem with them calling it the "OFFICIAL" SOA parody, when Kurt Sutter had nothing to do with it, and never approved it. You should really write a review of the movie dani. [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 21 2011 : 5:36AM IN 2009, according to screenit.com, and much to the chagrin of this family values conservative site which reports on undesirable screen scenes in main-stream films, a whopping 20% of all Hollywood productions included cigarette smoking female characters. Contrast this fact that in the same year approximately three out of one hundred, or only 3% of ALL adult films incorporated scenes with female porn stars smoking cigarettes--even simple math, proves dramatically that one is almost SEVEN times more likely to see a woman smoking a cigarette in a main-stream production than in a "steam-stream" one, and what a HELL of an indictment against an industry predicated on "bad girl" imagery, of which that dangling cigarette is a most definite personna. When one considers that Hollywood producers and directors must endure a HELL of a lot more public pressure to avoid filming actors smoking than their porn counterparts, to film such scenes with women 20% of the time is remarkable, so why do they do it?--for the story line, of course, and to accentuate the "femme fatale" and "good girl gone bad" theme--and this is something so important to the "integrity" and "realism" in a particular plot that main-streamers are willing to "take the flak" from various angry citizen action groups. Should anyone question that there is not a very REAL concentrated effort to force an end to smoking in films, btw, as of January of this year, ALL films, incorporating either male or female smoking scenes of ANY nature, MUST carry an "R' (restricted) rating. In contrast, where is the pressure against filming scenes of sexy women smoking cigarettes in the adult film industry? The answer, believe it or not, goes wayyy back to the late 1980's, for before then, adult film producers and directors frequently filmed sexy cigarette smoking scenes, and we MANY MANY smoke fetishist (Google "smoking fetish" and "Smoking glamour") were in SMOKE HEAVEN! It was THEN, that the dimunitive Paul Fishbein, the founder of the AVN Magazine, and its industry awards show,decided to go off on a personal health kick (if anyone knows Fishbein personally, they are well aware that his peculiar health "quirks" would make Howard Hughes proud) to use his most powerful AVN magazine to discourage both cigarette smoking scenes in porn, and "bare backs," or sex scenes without condoms. Thus, it was that in ANY adult film, in which condoms were not used or women were seen smoking cigarettes,negative reviews or disparaging remarks, including editorials by Gene Ross, one of the "minnows minnions," were the order of the day. Granted, AVN has lost much of its "Clout" in recent years, and is probably less than a year from going "completely under," but unfortunately for we MILLIONS of smoke fetishist around the world, THAT strong anti-smoking posture by porn's producers and directors was both nurtured and has flourished ever since--the jury is still out regarding Fishbein's vendetta against condom or "bare backs" even today, with every health authority, city, county and the state of California, fighting to force the "rubber ducky on the dicky" in ALL adult filmed scenes, while most of the producers and directors righfully maintaining that condom scenes are NOT wanted by the majority of its patrons, and indeed, most of its performers. Unfortunately, however, when it comes to ANY courage on the part of 99.9% of the adult film industry's "movers and shakers" to "buck" the anti-smokeites out there and let forth streams of sensual, swirling cigarette smoke from the luscious, moist lips (the"key" to our oral passion) of sexy, shapely porn stars (and despite the fact for every "anti," theres a WANTY!)it just AIN'T happening..############## closing expletives. [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Feb 21 2011 : 10:51PM Yes Howard, we "ruined it for everybody else". You were a technical director for "all the porn" on SOA season 2? Did you get your own trailer? Or did you just send a bunch of girls the address to the location and hoped they'd show up? And thanks for name dropping Kurt Sutter again, I'm not sure we got how tight you guys were. Did you get Marvel comics approval for Batman? Are you BFF with Adam West too? [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Feb 21 2011 : 11:50PM [Link] |
| regomar Member 34 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 8:35AM Yeah! And why do they ignore the heroin addict fetish!? Or maybe porn with chicks huffing paint thinner and ground up paint chips! Why is there no porn with chicks high on cocaine? Oh! Or maybe a porn where everyone is binge drinking and completely wasted! Oh, I know, because it's fucking disgusting to see a beautiful person destroying their body by breathing in smoke and addictive chemicals. You think your ever shrinking fetish of watching porn stars kill themselves slowly is 'huge'? More people like seeing boys fucked by trannies than like your fetish and thank god. I have never been more happy than when porn started moving away from those awful 80/early 90s standards of having porn stars smoke or being in disgusting smoky rooms. Nothing to kill a hard on like watching people kill themselves by inhaling smoke. [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 12:21PM Integrity has everything to do with making and doing the best job on every project. My comment was and still is, the fact you used the word "Official", which you seem to just ignore and never addressed. You are the one who made the comment about integritiy, not me. Then you said try watching the movie, I did, but I held my comments and opinions because I didn't think it would be right for me to review your movie. Now someone else reviews your movie and says exactly how bad it is, and you take a shot at me, again. Just FYI, I was on the set everyday of not only season 2 but also season 1 and most of season 3, and I will be back for season 4. You didn't ruin it for everybody else, just those of us who thought of making SOA too. Just to bring you up to speed because you appear to not know what you're talking about, I am not with Vivid, I did not make Batman, I just sold it, which by the way was the best selling DVD of the year according to the AVN award it won. Also as an aside I was paid for technical directing, I sat with the writers for 2 days, they copied my office and warehouse for the show and used all my DVDs and posters in the episodes. I also cast about 50 adult performers throughout season 1 and 2, not only the girls,but the male talent too, and they all showed up thank you very much. There were about 10 girls we used over and over and I thought it would be great to use them in a parody of SOA. Maybe you should try watching the show before you do a parody and you might have used some of them. I also got Tommy Gunn on the show, at least you used him. Dude you sound like you are munching on a bunch of sour grapes, chillax. Here is a tip, if you actually watch the show before you do a parody you might have some more integrity when you shoot it. Edited by - hollywood woody on 2/22/2011 12:31:36 PM [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 12:42PM I know you're very invested with the whole SOA thing and your integrity is perfect and you're a super awesome guy who knows everything so I'll go on the record and say "There will be no official Sons of Anarchy Parody until one is made that involves Howard Levine and his incredible sense of integrity!!. All other parodies of Sons of Anarchy should not be considered Official in any way, shape or form" Do you feel better? You have my blessing to go make the best darn sons of anarchy parody in the world. And the distributers WILL eventually say no more parodies because pretty soon they won't be buying DVDs at all. And I simply brought up Batman because you've incessantly plugged it, which is good, and I'm glad it sold so well. But did anyone get Marvel Comics permission? No. Sorry we didn't ask Kurt Sutter for his. And for the record, the person in question did not review the movie, he complained loudly that it didn't feature girls smoking cigarettes, which he does in every thread, because he's completely obsessed by girls smoking cigarettes, hence the title of this thread that you have decided is an appropriate place to take yet another shot at us for tarnishing your beloved SOA. [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 3:16PM I did not know you were Kreskin and could predict the future, but this business sounds like a doomsday for you. I hope you are learning a trade you can fall back on. Thank you for thinking I'm a super awesome guy, you are super awesome too. "A "poorady" is my "thunk up" term for a porn parody done terribly wrong, and Diabolic's Sons of Anarchy recreation fits the bill completely. Someone should tell every adult film company making parodies (except New Sensations and Hustler) that in a parody, the characters MUST both look like their original counterparts and emulate their life style as much as possible---anything else, is NOT a parody, but a "poorady," imho. Diabolic's recreation begins with Lee Stone, "trying" to play the part of Ron Perlman's character as Sam Crow's Club President, alone in the club room having trouble playing pool, because of his Arthritic hands, and from that scene onward, the film deviates more and more and MORE from the outstanding AMC original presentation." Is what he said, this is not too glowing and there is no mention in this part of smoking. I can read and know what the thread is about. I did plug Batman because it was done well, with integrity, that is why it was the best selling DVD last year. Vivid did not put on the box, "The Official Batman by Marvel". Let's just end this because you clearly don't want to address the questions put to you, you just want to argue, I'm far to busy for that. [Link] |
| Bigscotsman27 Member 464 Posts 9/09 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 3:34PM [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 3:39PM BTW, this is the first time in the 10 or so years that I've been visiting this board that I have ever come across someone from within the industry bashing someone else's product. Very childish if you ask me. Edited by - mike quasar on 2/22/2011 3:43:18 PM [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 4:04PM I'm childish, but you lower yourself to name calling and insults. Very grown up of you. If you weren't so wrapped up in making sure you are right, you would see I never bashed anyones product, the only thing I ever said or asked was why you used the word "Official". If I wanted to bash your product I would have reviewed it after watching it, which I did not do. You seem like a very angry guy. Are you ok there pal? [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 4:11PM [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 4:35PM Now let's get back on topic: sexy porn girls giving themselves lung cancer. Maybe there's an even narrower micro-niche in tracheotomy porn. [Link] |
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| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 4:48PM [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 4:53PM [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 23 2011 : 3:04PM BUTTT, a gorgeous, full-breasted WOMAN, dangling a looong all-white cigarette between her luscious lips, conjures visions of "blow jobs dancing in the heads of MORE men than you could ever imagine, and ESPECIALLY, for me, if she's performing in an adult film, and SOMEWHERE in that SAME film, I'll see those SAME lips wrapped around another looong tube--if you get the drift of the cigarette smoke I'm trying to generate in porn gonzo and feature films, as well as their bts segments. Another poster here is adamant in his ASSumption that the passion to see WOMEN porn stars "lighting up" and inhaling with deeep sexy finesse on looong all-white cigarettes, is waning, and NOTHING could be farther from the truth, as ANY real search of "smoking fetish" and "smoking glamour" will prove. Indeed, its that very extremely vocal stance that smoking is BAAAD for you, and "every woman will get hair on her palms from smoking cigarettes" mentality," that has resulted in a "backlash," if you will, of even MORE cigarette smoke fetishist--ESPECIALLY when one considers that seeing a sexy porn star "lighting up" on camera is so rare nowadays, that viewing such scenes has indeed become an OBSESSION with a GREAT many men--HELL!, I don't even know the number, but a trip to the internet and a visit to our many "smoke friendly" chat rooms and forums will certainly prove that our passion is HUGE, and EVER-GROWING-- NOT waning, but WAXING! In contrast to this new blood of FEMALE cigarette smoke fetishist, are we of the "old guard," who grew up during those Hollywood smoking glamour years, when the silver screen was INNUNDATED with various movie stars smoking their cigarettes--for the men, that cigarette smoking screen character (John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart, for example) personified rugged masculinity and for the women (Ava Gardner, Rita Hayworth, and Lana Tuner) sultry sexuality AND glamour. In addition, my television screen was flooded with cigarette conmercials, as countless beautiful women, displaying sparkling white teeth, were seen lighting up and inhaling with deeep satisfaction on various cigarette brands, while on every, and I mean EVERY, television show or series, one could see attactive women smoking. There was always ONE vital element missing, however, in this extremely sexy cigarette smoking film environment and that was explicit, hard-core sexual action, which the above could only hint at, and thus, we as early teen-agers (WOW!, surprised that old fart can still write) were forced to envision in our masturabatory fantasies, and, of course, longed to see as the REAL thing created on film, and ALWAYS followed by that satisfying "light-up," in the real world, as anyone who has ever "been" with a lady smoker knows--NEVER EVER filmed in porn, btw! So it was, that smoking, and the extreme sexuality of sexy, shapely women were forever linked together--a link STILL maintained by the Hollywood film industry at LEAST 20% of the time, while in "The Valley," the chain is all but broken, and THAT"S why I continue the fight against so many "clueless" porn producers and directors out there in my "fantasy wold!" "Fight on, good men, Sir Andrew said, although wounded not yet dead. I'll but lie down to bleed awhile, then rise again to fight the DREAD!" [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Feb 23 2011 : 7:11PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Feb 27 2011 : 6:31PM [Link] |
| shalalin Senior Member 1734 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Feb 27 2011 : 7:45PM [Link] |
| Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Feb 27 2011 : 8:19PM [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 7:51AM A smoking fetish is an intense oral sexuality, generated by the mere sight of sexy, shapely women lighting up and smoking loooong all-white cigarettes, either in real life, in a main-stream Hollywood film, or ESPECIALLY wthin the context of some porn feature or gonzo steam stream presentation--farther validating "bad girl" imagary, of which smoking has always been a part of that personna. It is a fetish that was born decades ago on the Silver Screen of Hollywood films, when practically every production featured sexy, classy women in various roles, but notably the "femme fatale" or "film noir" female character--forever beautiful, and almost always with a lit cigarette dangling between her lush, red lips--the "key" to our passion, btw. In fact, it was Hollywood that made cigarette smoking forever linked with both glamour and rugged masculinity in the eyes of so many men and women back then, and, indeed, 20% of all Hollywood films made even in 2009 (the latest figures available) STILL incorporated female smoking character roles, while only 3% of all adult films made in that year did the same--A LUDRICOUSY which I have been striving desperately to change. The smoking fetish, however, is not without its detractors for just as all I can think of upon seeing some woman's foot in a man's mouth, is "Hoof and Mouth Disease," so do many conjure visions of blackened lungs, when seeing a woman light-up a cigarette--In fact, Henri Patel posts a Lung Cancer forward of the death of former porn star Viper (and my DEEPEST sympathy) as if to suggest that EVERY female porn star who smokes (probably close to 70%, btw) will suffer a similar fate, when in ACTUALITY, Viper's passing, attributed to smoking Mr Patel implies, is the ONLY such case I have EVER heard of among FEMALE porn stars, past or present. In fact, I challenge Mr Patel, or anyone reading this to tell me another female porn star SMOKER who has had or does have Lung Cancer??? In my personal life, my wonderful Mother, who never smoked a day in her lfe, passed away from Lung Cancer at the age of 58, while my paternal Grandfather smoked a pack a half of Camels (or any other brand handy) from the age of 15, until they finally "did him in" at 98!--the point being, genetic factors have JUST as much to do with life or death than smoking, which is WHY I have NEVER smoked a cigarette in my entire life,and going through 20 years in the Marine Corps, when every "good job" was rewarded with "the smoking lamp," that wasn't easy, I assure you. Finally, there is a new breed, so to speak, of we smoke fetishist who have become somewhat frustrated at all the vocal anti-smokeite propaganda out there, as well as taboos, and have joined the ranks, simply because they have a difficlt time, as I, seeing sexy, shapely women smoking ANYWHERE in porn films today, and. of course, rarely in public. THAT, Dear Reader, then IS our smoking fetish, and if you care to do so, I invite any of you to Google "smoking fetish" and "smoking glamour" to see the myriad (probably in the THOUSANDS of smoke fetish sites, forums and chat rooms catering to our fetish---THEN, you will discover, for yourself, as I've tried to stress many times to so many "clueless" adult film producers and directors, for every anti, theres a WANTY!!! [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 4:13PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 4:14PM [Link] |
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| Stalag Deactivated User 476 Posts 1/10 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 4:22PM Which explains everything. [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 5:21PM In fact, I have received about that many private messages from various ADT readers agreeing with my frustration, BUTTT writing that they just don't want to put up with all the "flak" from the much more vocal anti-smokeite faction, who also love to suggest that our passion to see tight camera shots of sexy, shapely porn stars lighting up and inhaling/exhaling with the cheek-hollowing finesse of their "in real life" status as smokers (over 60% of the ladies performing in adult films today, I would GUARANTEE) is somehow, WEIRD and a perversion. Personally, I think all types of Bondage, S&M, the Foot Fetish (Hoof & Mouth Disease) Trannys, Golden Showers, and so many more so-called fetishes, are a HELL of a lot more weird than our desire to see attractive, full-breasted porn stars dangling cigarettes (ESPECIALLY the looong all-whites) between their luscious, moist lips SOMEWHERE within the context of adult film productions, and EVEN-God Forbid, during the actual sex scenes, such as the "smoking blow job" (we many smoke fetishist FAVORITE form of sexual foreplay) SOMEONE making adult films should think to incorporate such sexually-charged scenarios, NOT for the 26 smoke fetishist as Stalag suggests (and where he came up with the number 26 is beyond me) but for the MILLONS of men world-wide who are forever and fruitlessly hoping to find in their porn watching experiences! And "You GO Gore Girl," kick all them sexy cigarette smoking women to the curb--there will ALWAYS be someone to embrace them for the truly sexual heat (pun intended) they could bring to the "steam stream" if ONLY 99.99% of the adult film producers and directors out there would come to realize that fact. [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 5:55PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 5:58PM Do you mean in real life? I'm attached already, so I kick everyone to the curb except him. If you mean in a movie, I don't really care. If I like the film and the performance, then I will likely encourage them to remain on the pavement.[Link] |
| RFrog Member 396 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 10:56PM The woman holds the cigarette a bit ackward. I'd enjoy a reality-style hand-held video, of say, a relaxing after party: A few guys and girls in a house after midnight, empty beer bottles on the table and slow music playing. Maybe "Dazed and Confused".  The girls have cigarettes dangling from their fingers. And blowjobs are given as people in the room watch. But, I don't think the producers could buy the rights to use Led Zeppelin or any 70s band. [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 1 2011 : 9:24AM I DO agree with you on ONE thing you write, however--the very few adult film operations (such as Kick Ass and Legend) who did seek to exploit our passion, and in their TOTAL ignorance re just what makes it "tick," so to speak, created so many "staged" or fake smoking scenarios with model/performers who were NOT in real life smokers (the puffers or light inhalers and awkward holders) that the fetish was portrayed in much more of a comical than sexy way. BUTT, to illustrate my point that our fetish passion is a HUGE and ever-growing "here and now" type of thing, major tobacco companies have looong recognized the sexual appeal a beautiful woman's smouldering cigarette holds over we many men by creating any number of somewhat longer, and more slender brands for ONE purpose--to enhance the beauty of the female's somewhat smaller hands and lips. These brands (Virgiia Slims, Eve and Capri come to mind, although there are more) sell extremely well with women, BUTTT the cigarette of choice among the vast majority of adult film stars still remains Marlboro Light All-White 100's---WHAT a cigarette commercial THAT would make--even though MOST of we smoke fetishist prefer to see VS, Eve and Capris dangling from their luscious lips, as with the gorgeous Shyla Stylez, who sometimes wraps her beautiful lips around a Capri in her films, and WHAT a HOT (pun intended) sexy sight that is for us to relish--FAR, FAR too rare, however. In addition, the myriad (HELL, I don't even know the number) of smoking fetish sites, forums and chat rooms INNUNDATING the internet, which LOUDLY proclaims our frustration with porn's producers and directors, I might add, prove beyond doubt the REAL here and NOWISM of our fetish--search "smokingfetish" and "smoking glamour" for proof, but DON"T just search under "smoking," for thats where the anti-smokeites propangandize, and you might even get to view some of those gross pictures we all got to see in Eighth Grade Health Class again. [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 4 2011 : 9:33AM Since this makes the FIRST such scene I've found in the past 90 tries (YES, I DO keep count) by my way of reckoning, and to keep up that 3 to 100 ratio, which adult film industry producers and directors have steadfastly maintained for several years now (with Main Stream Hollywood its 20 to 100) there should be at LEAST 2 more out of the next ten I see---I can hardly wait! Even with the above Shyla Stylez HOT cigarette smoking scenarios, there was much more holding than smoking--DAMNIT!-- but beggars can't be choosers, so many thanx to Director Alex Braun and Hustler for "Shyla Stylez Superstar."--a HOT HOT adult film in many more ways than one, and truly worth your money for Shyla is at the "top of her game" in this one. [Link] |
| regomar Member 34 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Mar 4 2011 : 10:28AM [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 4 2011 : 11:19AM Admittedly, very few of we smoke fetishist visit ADT on a regular basis, because with only 3 of 100 adult films incorporating sexy cigarette smoking scenarios in their productions in any given year, the vast majority "gave up" on the industry long ago --opting instead for the plethera of internet smoking fetish sites, forums and chat rooms. where pctures and videos of HOT sexy cigarette smoking women abound, hard core, soft core and glamour/cheesecake. MY special "niche" of the smoking fetish is porn, however, so I keep HOPING that just some of the adult film producers and directors out there wil somehow come to realize that for every "anti," there TRULY is a WANTY!, and as I've stated many times ANY really sincere Google effort will easily validate that fact. [Link] |
| hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Mar 4 2011 : 2:46PM I checked google and there are dvds that already cater to this fetish. Why not buy those? [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 5 2011 : 5:35PM Its the adult film genre where I always envisioned the "missing link" would be provided, and that the HOT sex scenes, which could only be hinted at in the main-stream, would "CUM to reality," in the steam stream---with lots of sexy cigarette smoking setup seduction scenes beforehand, of course. Gonzo, which always includes tease or sexy "cheesecake" posing sessions before the "fucnsuc," would also be a GREAT venue to incorporate sexy cgarette smoking women, but Chris Streams, Mike Quasar, Jules Jordan, Johnny Darko, Lex Steel, and the rest of the adult film directors out there either haven't figured that out yet, or just don't give a damn that such scenes would attract a very large portion of the porn watching community--more likely, the latter. Even in behind the scene interview segments, filming one of our "fantasy dream women," established porn stars,btw, smoking their cigarettes is extremely erotic to a great number of we men "infected" with the fetish, because it reveals a bit more of her "humanity," so to speak, and we can always tell if the woman is a real life smoker--deeep inhaling, instead of timid puffs. Sure, Hollywood, there are a great many such films out there, as any quick internet search will show, but they DON"T feature Julia Ann, Lisa Ann, Tory Lane, Shyla Stylez, and all the other 60 to 65% of the women in porn who either smoke as a habit or enough socially so as to appear on camera handling and smoking a cigarette with extremely sexy finesse, for nothing looks sillier to we of the "smokerhood," than the faker, as "Kick Ass Pictures" and "Legend" tried to palm off on us in many of their "smoker" series scenarios--and WHY", I'll never know???? In conclusion, That looong all-white cigarette, dangling between the luscious lips of an attractive, shapely woman (especially a popular porn star) is and always has been a powerful phallic symbol to we MANY MANY smoke fetishist (Visions of blow jobs dancing in our heads) and HOPEFULLY, someday, adult film producers and directors will somehow CUM to realize that fact! [Link] |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Mar 6 2011 : 9:24PM [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 7 2011 : 8:41PM I, also am a non-smoker, and I've found when it CUMS to our fetish, probably two out of three men are as well--its that old opposites DO attract type of appeal--Frankly, I learned this from interacting with hundreds of fellow smoke fetishist in various forums and chat rooms catering to our fetish, and BEFORE those revelations, thought that my getting a "boner" just seeing some beautiful, shapely woman, dangling a cigarette between her luscious lips, was really WEIRD, for its NOT something one talks about "in real life" situations, ONLY the unanimity of the internet--It can be somewhat of an embarrassment, btw,and requires a bit of "leaning," at times among mixed gatherings. I do agree with you also about how sexy cigarette smoking can be within the "tease" or cheesecake posing intro to a particular gonzo sex scene to follow, BUTTT NO porn director as far as I know, has ever figured that out yet, or, at least, I've never seen such scenarios--Of course, with only around 3 out of every 100 adult films produced nowadays incorporating sexy cigarette smoking female characters (with main-stream, its 20) I hardly see ANY cigarette (NOT cigar) smoking women in "steam stream" productions, PERIOD!, as more and more "kow towing" to the much more adamant "antis" is "in stone," so to speak, and NO ONE, neither producer nor director, DARES to use a chisel! But, thanx again for your comments. [Link] |
| stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07 | Posted - Mar 8 2011 : 9:14PM The 2 girls are stunning and the intro is quite sexy with both girls sitting opposite sides on a sofa and with that a sweeping shot of one of the girls follows then the camera moves onto the other girl as they both sit there looking so sexy in there underwear,both girls are already holding a cigarette in there hands and as the camera zooms from one girl to the other Christoph's hand comes into view and he lights one of the girls cigarettes and the camera lingers on her as she takes a few drags from it. The attention moves to the other girl and once again Christoph lights the cigarette the girl was holding and she takes a few drags from it then with another camera angle to catch both girls smoking the action turns to one of the girls using her finger to beckon the other over..the action was about to commence.It was quite erotic to see the intro and was not too much overkill with the smoking,so if you thought that a cigarette could only be enjoyed by girls after sex then think again.. Some pics,the best i could do with screen grabs as using VLC media player and it's rubbish lol.      [Link] |
| danl Member 436 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 9 2011 : 6:29AM What I tried to stress is that such "tease" scenes NEVER incorporate sexy cigarette smoking women, at least in American-made porn, and they could in fact, be especially effective as a prelude to the "sucnfuc," if only, adult producers and directors here in the States would consider developing such scenarios. Here are some very interesting (and frustrating for we MANY smoke fetishist) facts about the probabilties of seeing sexy women smoking their cigarettes in film productions: Among main-stream foreign-made films, its a 40% probability; with foreign-made porn, you've got a 30% chance of seeing some French, Italian, German, English (except a Harmony film, where its ZILCH) porn star,; lighting up and smoking a cigarette; here in the USA, a trip to a main-stream movie theatre or rental store, offers a 20% probability of seeing a sexy cigarette smoking female character portrayal; AND, as I've tried to point out in numerous posts here to ADT, American porn viewers will likely see a porn star cigarette smoking scenario a WHOPPING 3% of the time, or 3 out of every 100 films!!! This, to me, Stink, et al, is a LUDRICOUS TRAVESTY for an industry which owes its TOTAL existence to the exploitation of so-called "bad girl" imagery, of which, as I've stated numerous times here, that smouldering cigarette, dangling from the luscious lips of a good-looking, full-breasted woman, has ALWAYS been a major part of her personna character role--Thanx to main-stream Hollywood, which more than any other institution created the link between cigarette smoking women and sexuality, ie, The Smoking Fetish Passion. While I will enjoy considerably seeing the film you have kindly brought to my attention, my REAL "niche" of the fetish will ALWAYS be "relishing" tight, or close camera shots, of gorgeous, shapely AMERICAN porn stars lighting up and inhaling with deeep sexy finesse on lots of looong all-white (especially feminine-style) cigarettes, as both HOT female characters in feature films and parodies, as well as within ALL aspects of gonzo productions, including behind the scene interview segments in both genres. Of course now, I realize I'm only dreaming, and THAT stagnant 3% probable ratio will be here FOREVER, especially if "MESSERS," Mike Quasar, Chris Streams, Lex Steel, Johnny Darkko, Jules Jordan, Brad Armstrong, Paul Thomas, Billy Watson, Brett Bando, Christian, Vince Voyeur,Sean Michaels, Robby D, Tom Byron, Andre Madness, Nic Andrews, Justin Slayer, Jordan Septo---HELL! I just might as well name em ALL, including female directors Kelly Madison and Nica Noelle---have their way. For, NONE of the above adult film directors could recognize a sexy cigarette smoking filmed scenario, if IT burned them in the BUTT--and THAT'S the tragedy for more men than they could EVER realize! "Fight on, Good Men, Sir Andrew said, although wounded, yet not dead. I'll but lie down to bleed awhile, then rise again to fight the DREAD!" [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Mar 9 2011 : 7:16AM Besides which, you can get those e cigarettes now, which probably aren't nearly as bad for you as the real thing. I would think a smoking fetishist would be just as happy to see a sexy woman puffing one of those as long as it looks pretty close to a real cigarette. The "smoke" looks real enough. Edited by - randomprecision on 3/9/2011 7:19:28 AM [Link] |
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