jamesn may have hit on a small part of the reason but, really, it’s more than that.I've thought about this before, however briefly, and I'll give you a serious answer. Some of us do. And I wouldn't call them "straight" forums, per se. But in many cases, the atmosphere there is not completely welcoming. I’m not suggesting any overt hostility; far from it. There’s just a sense that many of our comments are ignored. And on some sex-related/porn-related/ societal-type topics, I often feel there’s just more to explain to straight people than I want to be bothered with. Added to that, I think, as with many minorities, there’s a certain “circle-the-wagons” mentality that is our fault. Even though posting is essentially anonymous, we are just conditioned to be suspicious, however slightly, of baring our thoughts and souls around large groups of non-Gay people.
An example—jamesn dug around apparently in this thread trying to identify someone. Not that I’m particularly upset by that, but it did give me a bit of the creeps and it would be easy to see how that puts a chill on participation, perhaps particularly for Gays.
The other point is that this specific forum, although labeled “Gay DVD Talk” might be used for discussions like those in WN&N or pop culture, but with a gay perspective. But currently it isn’t. Largely the posts and items here are specifically about gay porn stars, what flicks have this or that attribute—the biggest dicks, the most explosive cum shots, you name it. I’m all for that but the other “gay” stuff, if you want to call it that, just doesn’t seem to fit.
I enjoy participating here but in the end, I suspect many of us read and post on other, friendlier, more wide-ranging boards.
billy-wouldn't worry too much about that. i was full of shit, i just wanted to geek the guy out-i'd never spend that kind of time hunting someone down. now shhh...
I'm not sure what the reason is. You can tell by the read count on these posts that there are definately a lot of people reading these threads. Why more aren't posting is a mystery to me.
Maybe the forum seems to limited in it's scope? At the other big gay forum I go to (which has a lot more subforums) you don't actually see many people talking specfically about gay dvds. It's usually about a particular star, who's hot and who's not, escorting, and a myriad of other gay topics. As a moderator, I try to let pretty much any tangentially gay topic stay here, so I hope people feel ok starting topics that aren't necesarily about gay dvds.
The only thread I've moved recently has been about Transgenered golf players or something like that, which I thought was just a wee bit off the main path.
I remembered peeking here when I started. Let's face it, it's boy-centered. There's way more lesbian talk in the other forums. So of course, that's where you'll find me.
Not that I don't love you boys. Just not in a talking about smutty videos kind of way.
I'm perfectly happy with its current name. I post when the mood strikes or a topic strikes my fancy. That applies to all the forums -- not just this one.
I dont' respond much because it lumps all gay porn together which mainly focuses on twinkies. I think gay men are into one type of man more then a variety. Mainly I watch bear or older men gay porn only.
Maybe sub forums would be good and adding a trading forum might be helpful.
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Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 11:38PM
I get the feeling that adultdvdtalk is mainly a "straight" man's site, as in 100% "straight". The gay section is really quite bare and is there more as an afterthought than as an integral part. To my knowledge, there are no major gay porn performers or directors engaged in regular chats or anything like that.
Another thing is that many gay guys can easily hook up with other guys in social situations, far far more easily than straight guys with women. Porn becomes a surrogate for straight guys who can't get sex socially.
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Posted - Nov 1 2005 : 12:22PM
The amount of effort we put in is proportional to the amount of interest. Most of the major features of the site aren't restricted to either gay or straight. As far as attracting gay stars and directors - again it's an issue of interest and activity. Joeblow made a lot of efforts at contacting people in the gay industry. I'm sure more would participate if there were more activity - catch 22. In general the straight porn companies have been a lot more receptive to our site with a few notable exceptions on the gay side. Some of that comes down to different business models - eg our price search is a point of contention with some gay producers.
silverfoxes- gay men 55+ bears- hairy masculine men with facial and body hair twinks- young slim muscular boys over 18 tweaks- young druggie queens- fem men dragqueen - gay men that dress as women daddies - middle aged or older men trolls- ugly older men bi- confused men pig - men into rough sex such as fisting water sports handballers - fisting men
Probably alot more but that should be enough for awhile
You define "bear" as a hairy, masculine man. In gay bear culture, a man may perceive himself as masculine or strive to be masculine, but may fail to be. It's a matter of how they perceive themselves, rather than what they actually are. My point is: the subculture to which a gay man identifies is not a valid measure of his true masculinity. I've come across some feminine-acting bears and muscle jocks, although they yearn to be perceived as masculine. I've also met hyper-masculine gay men who are neither bears nor muscle jocks. A gay man could perceive himself as not being very masculine, but actually be more masculine that he perceives himself to be. If you are a drag queen, well...(I've never met any naturally masculine drag queen).
By the way, you forgot one of the most popular gay subcultures: muscle jocks
Drag queens are performers and dress to be glamorous. Transvestites are men who dress as women. Furthermore, not all transvestites are gay, though most are. The overwhelming majority of Drag Queens are gay. Little straight boys don't dream of growing up and performing in front of a crowd in a sequined dress.
I have found it very difficult to get integrated and be a contributing member here as well. I am very familiar with the way these types of forums work and have certain sites I visit and contribute on a daily basis but none of them are porn forums. When I first found the site I was very excited and thought I had found a wonderful place to discuss my interests to see if others shared them.
However, the more I read and looked at the dates of the threads it became clear that there wasn’t much movement/postings. I have been over in the straight forum and have lurked for days and posted a few times. The few times I posted, there were responses that disagreed with me but nothing I couldn’t handle.
I have found that the people that seem to be posting (in the gay forum) on a regular basis do not hold the same idea/likes I have so I haven’t been able to contribute. I view porn as fantasy situations that I would love to be in but know there is no way that would ever happen. It just heightens the thoughts to know there are people living out my fantasies.
I don’t like mainstream gay porn because it tends to be the same thing over and over (and nothing I really fantasize about)…cleanly shaved muscle men going through the motions of having sex. A 30-minute blowjob gets old to me really fast. I tend to like more amateur/underground sex with real men having sex. IMHO, it appears that there are more people here that like the mainstream stuff and something that I don’t associate with in my day-to-day life.
Also, in the realm of bears there are further break downs.
The one I am most familiar with (since I fit this one) is bear cub. Basically it is a younger bear, or a bear in training. At least that's how I've had it explained to me.