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| Pete Zaface Senior Member 3064 Posts 8/03 | Many people don't like JAV because the governments censorship restrictions force the video makers to pixellate out penises and vaginas. (For some reason, the anus is okay, whether alone or being penetrated by something other than a penis.) I look at that as a half-full rather than half-empty glass, because it gives the video makers a reason or an excuse to focus on something other than the close-up in-and-out shots that American porn seems to have way to much of. So instead of seeing a lot of hairy balls slapping a cute girl's as, we get to see a lot more of the cute girl. While many scenes lack the gynecological viewpoint of U.S. porn, they are actually more erotic. I'm happy with the trade-off. Among the reasons I like JAV: ) After-market breasts have yet to make a significant impact in JAV. 2) Ditto with tattoos. I think I've seen maybe two JAV stars -- both well below A-list -- with body art. 3) The number of women I find attractive is staggering in JAV, whereas American porn has an awful lot of women that don't appeal to me. By and large, JAV actresses range from cute to stunning. 4) Japanese directors emphasize the woman. By and large, you don't see those annoying shots of a guy screwing his face up as he pretends to cum for the camera, you won't see parolees leering into and mugging for the camera, and, in fact, you won't see much of the guys at all. Too many porn-stars-turned-directors in the U.S. these days seem to think that porn is about them. It's not. 5) When you see a JAV actress on the boxcover, she's in the video. That doesn't always happen in the U.S. 6) An American video usually has only one or two actresses that I'm interested in seeing, and if either or both are involved in a g/g scene, the number of scenes I wind up actually watching in the video drops accordingly. A JAV usually has only one actress in it, she's in every scene, and, if it's not a lesbian-themed video, every scene will almost certainly be heterosexual. 7) I find a certain air about almost all JAV actresses that many American porn starlets lack. It's a combination of clothing, jewelry, makeup (or lack of it) and mannerisms that even the gals doing videos such as the Dream Shower series have. Many American gals seem to revel in their trashiness, while JAV actresses seem somehow to maintain their femininity and innocence. There seems to be nothing that a Japanese 18 year old will not do. And no matter how depraved it is, the girl will still look innocent and cute. You can't beat that. 8) Maria Ozawa, Akira Watase, Ran Asakawa, Akiho Yoshizawa, Yuria Sendo, Eri Ito, Miori Hoshi, Erika Sato, Natsuki Sugisaki ... I could spend all day at this. 9) In many scenes, you'll find the girl looking like she's genuinely interested in pleasing the guy, like she's really happy to be bringing pleasure to someone else. American porn actresses are frequently much more workmanlike in their approach. 10) Last but not least, the titles are often freakin' hilarious. Take these, for example: Upon Returning to My Parents' Home, My Virginity Was Taken By My Older Brother's Wife - Shall We Show You the Older Sister's 17 Consecutive Squirting Incidents?! Lascivious Lady Exhortation - Squrting Girlfriend Who Loves Penises More than Me Edition I Wish to Pump Hotaru Akane Until My Testicles Are Emptied Entire Body Convulsing Orgasm Dispatched Office Lady Indulging Wetness With Each Full-Time Employee's Penis Perform Nakadashi On Aunt Who is a Carpenter!! (Nakadashi is called a creampie in American porn; over the last couple of years multiple-nakadashi videos have replaced bukakke as a favored video theme.) Young Men, They Will Violate the Stepmother!! Big Tits Circular Design for Thinking On Fantastic Bursting Tits Beautiful Lady's Nakadashi Semen-Drinking Fuck Industry Most-Potent Lascivious Actress Will Wrest Away Your Virginity! Riko Tachibana's Inexperienced Male Virgin Hunt Glamorous Lip - Too Much Licking Indecent Mouth Saliva Female Molester Upon Being Asked I Feel So Passionate Really Lewd High-Class Pervert Female Detective is a Lascivious Lady and a Penis-Loving Pervert On Top of That Enthralling!! Complete Burning!! Sexy Big Burn Exuberant Madonna Who Ejaculates Real Disarray! Won't You Train the Perverted Maid? Great Express Thick Abundant Semen Bukkake!! Saturated With Male Juice!! Perversion, I Get a Real Sensation When I'm Messed Around With! Just MHO, and worth what you paid for it. [Link] |
| ronin3 Member 82 Posts 10/07 | What comes to mind when I think of JAV? The whining....The unbearable incessant whining. How do you deal with that crap. The gyno poking. The how many little dildos can I stuff in her pussy crap. The fake splooge everywhere crap. What seems to bother me most is the fact that if I was there I would not be enjoying myself. True there are a few fun girls and hell yes quite a few superstars but the format is not geared to anything I view as sexual behavior. That can't be what Japanese women crave for when they want to have sex. Would I be with a woman like this and spend 20 minutes poking my fingers and vibrators in her like a curious 5Th grader? Would I be turned on by a woman who constantly whines in an annoying high pitch every time I push inside her? These films are purchased by customers of a different psychological adjustment. I understand your reasoning. It's just that I am less of a true voyeur than you are. As someone else said, the porn I watch enhances the sex that my life revolves around. Here's something to watch if you can get a hold of them. There are a series of tapes of true Japanese women being video taped while they are in Video booths watching rented porn. If you want to see the true debauchery and lust of a Japanese woman then that will hit the spot. As far as typical JAV goes. Some are OK but you need to sift through a lot of junk before you get to something worthwhile. Ai Nagase and Sakura Sakurada come to mind as Happy, enjoying sex, not afraid to look at their partners or at the camera and erotic...The Red Hot Series is another exception to the rule. These are usually great to watch because of at least 75% real sex, good production values, and the lack of censorship. |
| gladtobeblazed Member 83 Posts 5/07 | |
| caroline-NL Member 543 Posts 3/07 | of JAVs. Because downloads and the few DVDs offered here and in Europe, really arent representative for the genre in toto. I dont like the whining, crying etc. too. I like girls and women who have fun, fun, fun. I have some of the japanese classics, who have this negative aura. But also around 100 DVDs, who are lightheartly, funny, euphoric, joyfull. And the range is going from softcore to hardcore, from bukkake, to group sex, to golden showers or even scat. Especially the lesbian scat porn movies, partly also made by (lesbian) women and with lesbian women, are impressive, to put it mildy. And I like the experiments, the crazy ideas and the approach, the directors take, even if they fail sometimes, but at least they try it. A silent porn movie, or porn in black-white, one filmed with a super-8mm camera etc. But if my girlfriend wouldnt be japanese, it would be almost impossible to get these movies. Some labels are extremely hard to get in Europe, or much too expensive. |
| Dreamer Member 95 Posts 9/04 | As for funny titles, I was amused by "Rin Aoki and her Enormous Bovine Udders" |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | |
| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | I have no doubt that some bukkake is faked. Out of maybe 1000 of them only less than a dozen appeared to be faked. It's so obvious too. The whining is normal. It gets annoying, but that's how it is. I hope you don't assume just because they sound that way they're in some sort of pain or it's not consentual. Sounds to me you're assume this is because it's as if it was supposed to be simulated rape. Please stop assuming things about the viewers of these types of movies. There is a ton of stuff I hate about Japanese porn. They have a TON of filler material where it's some guy that licks the girl's pussy, makes out with her in close-up, fingers her and then does other random things before the good stuff gets going. I don't want to see 15 minutes of fore-play! Then often you have a room full of creepy men in their undies surround her and then rub her all over all at once. What's the appeal of that? I could also aggro that they definitely have an over usage of sex toys. It's terrible. I can't go through a JAV without seeing lots of them. Japanese bukkake is by far the best there is without a doubt. I love how they seem to have every single type of fetish title there is. No matter how weird it is, they have it. I've heard lots of people who say their lesbian scat is the best there is. I don't know. Probably tied with the brazilian stuff thanks to those sick people (ie cool) at MFX. Vomit porn is made in Japan, but it's not common, but is getting more popular lately for some reason. And for the best "MILF" (ugh i hate that word!) porn, the best ones are in Japan by far. Did you know that they have companies that ONLY produce those types of movies? Check out stuff by Madonna or Ruby. Takara Visual also has a series of them that is very good. I like asian women, but to be honest, I'm only really into maybe 25% of them in JAV. That's too bad, but i'm picky I guess. Probably not much different than the US porn though! |
| Texan Member 167 Posts 3/04 | |
| ronin3 Member 82 Posts 10/07 | There was no reference in this thread to fake Bukkake by anyone but you. It would appear that my reference to "fake splooge everywhere" is your reference to fake bukkake . I'm talking about the movies which use a punch bowl sized container of a slimy sticky substance which is continually poured on the girls during the scene. If you have not seen this then that would explain your incorrect assumption. You wrote: "The whining is normal. It gets annoying, but that's how it is. I hope you don't assume just because they sound that way they're in some sort of pain or it's not consensual. Sounds to me you're assume this is because it's as if it was supposed to be simulated rape. Please stop assuming things about the viewers of these types of movies." You ask me not to assume something right after assuming something about me based on something you assumed..WOW.. The Balls we all seem to have. These are clearly your pain, consent and rape theories, not mine. I made the thread into a point counterpoint discussion. If you take offense to the facts I referred to then in your own words "it's normal" "that's how it is". Just for the record, the whining/wimpering is annoying if "anyone" does it under "any" circumstance. Hope that makes you less self conscious about this. All I wrote is all I meant. |
| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | Also, the fake splooge isn't always meant to be fake semen. I'm not sure which title you're thinking of but most of those scenes with that sort of thing are lotion videos. There is a whole genre of them. They also have scenes of this in the Mydol Semen series and in a "Sperm Lesbian" title. Obviously some are supposed to be fake semen, but not all of them. My guess is that only less than 1% of the movies out there have such scenes, so it shouldn't be such a big deal. |
| caroline-NL Member 543 Posts 3/07 | Could you list a few titles Caroline-NL?" I am no expert in Japanese, I can recommend the AQT Series. A Lesbian Scat Label. S.O.D. ( Soft on Demand ) has many good movies in every category. I can recommend the "Silent Scat movie", a perfect silent movie, but with scat sex. And I can recommend " Scat Glamour Model ", was shot by a former advertising film director. Many good bukkake movies with Ran Asakawa. One is very tricky, because the sound was edited in later, with a sort of inner monologue, that its asynchrone to the action in the picture. The greatest scat/vomit classic is "Scatgirls from Space", a B-Movie with superb extreme sex. |
| spitty Member 730 Posts 12/04 | |
| Dreamer Member 95 Posts 9/04 | I'm more into bukkake and group sex titles. Can you recomend any more titles of this type? I very much like the sound of the Ran Asakawa movie you describe - "the sound was edited in later, with a sort of inner monologue, that its asynchrone to the action in the picture" - that does sound very interesting. Do you remember the title? Unfortunately I guess I would not really appreciate it fully because I don't speak Japanese - although I've picked up "arigato" after hearing it so many times in bukkake movies The reason why I love JAV at the moment is because they do things differently. Simple as that. They kiss differently, they fuck differently. I love how you can get whole movies of nothing but really hot tease. After all the multiple penetration and cum farts and blowbangs I've seen, at the moment I love just watching a sexy girl dance for 20min. Sounds boring right? But it isn't! Every couple of minutes the girl does something cool and keeps my attention the whole way through with no fast-forwarding which is more than I can say for most American porn I've seen recently. |
| Cuddly Wombat Senior Member Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04 | |
| caroline-NL Member 543 Posts 3/07 | it to watch a scat movie, but my japanese girlfriend introduced me to a totally different world. These movies either have a story and are innovative, or they have passion, lust and joy. Sorry, I dont remember the exact Ran Asakawa title, but it was something original too, translated like " round table discussion without a table ", or so. Very original movie, but without english subtitles. My girlfriend translated it. If you dont have the translation, its only a normal bukkake movie. ( Even if Ran Asakawa is really worth a look...) A very good bukkake movie is called " 18 years old ", but many movies carry this title. The movie is a mixture of experimentalism, music video and normal porn. A young woman celebrates her 18th birthday, a great party is given, all men have to please her ( and vice versa ) etc. She is also playing on the piano, and except from the nice party she enjoys, her relationship with her boyfriend is almost on the brink of collapse. At first, he was happy to have such a hot girl, who is "fucking around", but later, he is envious and jealous, he is retreating more and more. She escapes to a beach and has sex with two strangers. He watches her, and is angry, but also aroused. When they meet again, he isnt talking a word about this, his protest is to remain silent. She goes to the piano and plays her birthday song. When she does it, all of the situations that happened after her 18th birthday, are visualized in a form of fast cutted flashbacks. She cries and sheds a few tears, because her relationship has ended, just after her 18th birthday, a date, she has awaited for so long, but its also a new chapter in her life, because she is free now and she can take all decisions on her own. Only one of the few examples, that many JAVs are on a very high level, have very good stories, are often critical of the society and are targetted at a more sophisticated and intelligent viewership. But these movies dont appear - usually - in Europe. Because you cant understand a word, if you dont understand Japanese. Edited by - Caroline-NL on 11/2/2007 11:51:33 AM |
| Comet Man Member Boston 96 Posts 4/01 | What I don't like about those movies is they way some of the women "moan"...it's more like they're suffering and being raped instead of enjoying sex :-P |
| Dreamer Member 95 Posts 9/04 | If your girlfriend is looking for a good excuse to watch porn all day then she could offer a translation service on the internet. There must be hundreds of thousands of JAV fans in the West who would pay to understand what their favourite JAV girl is saying. I know I would Edited by - Dreamer on 11/5/2007 4:27:37 PM |
| budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04 | The ladies look natural to me. Few are tattoo'd, few have been to the boobjob butcher shop, few have petrochemicals in their hair, and most have the natural look of pubic hair down there. Many titles have the men cumming in the lady's pussy and the camera then shows it leaking out. Sure it can be faked and it is on occasion but most of the time it's natural intercourse between a man and a woman. Costume play is fun to watch and the men using toys, fingers, and tongues to pleasure the gal is something not seen much in western films. Some of the whining and grunting by the women can be annoying as well as distracting but I can turn the volume down real low and that takes care of that problem. Also, many of the ladies have pretty hands and beautiful hair, something I've always loved about women. JAV is tame by western standards. The Japanese are the only porn-friendly people in the Orient and they can do beastiality films as well as scat movies. I'm not into that at all but it is amazing how they can make extreme films like that when most of the adult fare is standard male/female sex and anal is rare. You either like it or you don't. One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. |
| Schmse Senior Member I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04 | The girls are not treated like scrap. I really enjoy to watch a beautiful girl enjoying herself to please a dude. It's not like in american gonzo, where the same guys fucking the same girl up the ass everytime. |
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| Schmse Senior Member I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04 | |
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