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| Senior Smith New Member 5 Posts 5/07 |  Posted - May 28 2007 : 1:56PMA large majority of the porn I watch, and have watched over the last 10 years, has been lesbian porn. I don't know why I love it so much, but I do know that straight (single girl or guy/girl) porn bores the hell out of me. Even when I first started getting into lesbian porn, I was not attracted to the mainstream stuff. It was amateur or nothing. And even then I always thought it could be a millions times better if only some effort was put into it. Here is a list of my main suggestions or complaints about lesbian porn. 1. The Mainstream Look. So what's up with these mainstream girls? I'll try to explain what I consider mainstream. Unattractive blond girl, giant fake boobs, heaps of makeup, high heals and some slutty outfit. Sound familiar? That's because that makes up about 50% of all porn. I never get limp-dick faster than when I see one of these abominations. 2. The girls should be beautiful. The main thing I look for in a woman is a pretty face. A sexy or 'hot' body is completely secondary. I usually prefer a more natural look. Although not too natural, haha. Boob size doesn't matter, as long as they seem to fit her body type. And ass size doesn't matter as long as it's not a really skinny ass. The girl can also be kinda chubby as long as it doesn't delve into 'rolls of fat' chubby. 3. Mood & Setting Would it kill the director to have something besides just two girls on a bed, or two girls on the floor? And it's always in this desolate, empty room. It's kinda creepy to be honest. Create a setting that is comfortable/inviting/exotic. The girl doesn't have to be the only thing in the room that's beautiful. 4. They need to get into it. There's nothing worse than watching two girls go at it and they're obviously there just to get paid. Sometimes they even look drunk/drugged out of their minds. I'm sorry, but if you're not going to put any effort into showing that you're attracted to this other girl, then maybe you shouldn't be in the porn industry. Also, don't over do it. I really hate the 'sexy face'. You know, the puckered lips, and intense eyes. This mixed with screaming 'orgasms' when a girl barely touches her, really sets off my bullshit alarm. I've only seen a few pornos where the girls actually seemed to be getting into it. 5. Realism & Buildup. Honestly no one even tries any more. The director just plops two girls down on a bed and they go to town. Am I just supposed to assume they both appeared out of nowhere? And they're both wearing super slutty outfits for god know's what reason? Can you please for the love of christ, create a situation that's realistic? Introduce us to these girls. Let us believe that they're actually girlfriends. Make them wear normal clothes. Most women don't walk around town with a skirt so high it shows off their vagina. Show the two of them talking, flirting, playing with each other. Hell, even watching these two girls go out on a date would be a huge turn on. It doesn't have to ALL be fingering and pussy licking!!! 6. Intimate Kissing. This is the biggest appeal of lesbian porn. In straight porn nobody wants to see a guy being intimate with a girl. Lets face it, most guys are butt ugly. And watching him kiss a girl can set off my gag reflex. However watching two beautiful women, slowly gaze into each other's eyes, smile with that 'come hither' look, and delicately, passionately kiss each other is probably one of, if not the, most beautiful things on this planet. So why are so many lesbian pornos missing this very important element? Beats the hell out of me. Even when the girls do kiss it's usually forced and sloppy, or dull and boring. The kissing needs to start slow and playful. Then move on to intense and passionate.
So, what do you guys think? Also here's a music video that I think would make the ultimate lesbian porno. I can't explain it but this is probably the hottest thing I've ever seen. These girls are basically the definition of sexy in my book. Although I'm not sure everyone will agree with me on that... Enjoy! (you may want to mute the sound) Edited by - Senior Smith on May 28 2007 Edited by - Senior Smith on May 28 2007 [Link] |
| BIGmike B-I-G-m-i-k-e 2335 Posts 3/01 | Posted - May 28 2007 : 2:29PM - -B -I -G -m -i -k -e, here and there, over and out! - - [Link] |
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| Zen Master 2007 Member 356 Posts 3/07 | Posted - May 28 2007 : 2:37PM
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| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | Posted - May 28 2007 : 2:38PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - May 28 2007 : 3:19PM A. Because of Sturgeon's Law. [Link] |
| bono-ONE All-Star Member SAMCRO 8571 Posts 8/00 | Posted - May 28 2007 : 3:54PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 28 2007 : 4:42PM [Link] |
| Prophit Member 378 Posts 1/07 | Posted - May 29 2007 : 5:20AM However you forgot about the toys though. Nothing kills a good scene more than when they get the toys out imo. [Link] |
| _swede_ Deactivated User 579 Posts 4/05 | Posted - May 29 2007 : 11:50AM [Link] |
| Senior Smith New Member 5 Posts 5/07 | Posted - May 29 2007 : 1:10PM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - May 29 2007 : 3:12PM Jacco [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 29 2007 : 3:16PM Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 5/29/2007 3:16:41 PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - May 29 2007 : 4:11PM Viv Thomas, Abby Winters and Sapphic Erotica. Those are the only sources I know of for decent lesbian porn. All three are good. I've seen some absolutely mind blowing stuff from the first two. You'll pay more but it's worth it. [Link] |
| Terri_Zeek Member Yorkshire gal with a sexy career! 116 Posts 5/07 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 12:43PM Like the OP, I am turned off by false boobs, loads of make-up and slutty looks; short skirts, skimpy bras and 8 inch heels. I also posted on here that lesbian movies should star lesbian women or bisexual women who enjoy lesbian more. That way, we will have better movies. [Link] |
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| gejothho Member 177 Posts 4/01 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 1:38PM His Pink Velvet trilogy is THE standard in lesbian porn. One drawback is that most of the girls are European and their command of English is lacking. [Link] |
| gejothho Member 177 Posts 4/01 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 1:47PM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 1:51PM Jacco Edited by - jacco on 5/30/2007 1:50:42 PM [Link] |
| Baggio Member 451 Posts 7/04 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 2:15PM [Link] |
| eduardo911 Senior Member 1299 Posts 8/03 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 7:17PM Apart from these minor points, I strongly agree with your assessment, BUT I think they should apply to all kinds of porn - straight as well as lesbian. (I prefer straight porn, but I also enjoy a GOOD lesbian scene - which, as you have indicated, is rare). Edited by - eduardo911 on 5/30/2007 7:21:08 PM [Link] |
| Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03 | Posted - May 30 2007 : 9:32PM [Link] |
| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | Posted - May 31 2007 : 5:11AM My personal favorite lesbian movies are of the lesbian kissing variety. I don't know why, but they're the hottest thing ever to me by far. You just have to see the right ones and i'm talking about the ones from Japan. Believe it or not they have at least a few dozen lesbian kissing fetish titles in Japan. They really get into it and are pretty sloppy. Some even go as far as spitting and that sort of thing. They even have lots of tongue sucking which isn't all that common i'd imagine in US lesbian porn. What's cool about these movies is that they quite often have up to 4 women in each scene! A good place to start is the DOBJ series from JNS. They're fairly cheap. Aroma (www.aroma-p.com) also sells a ton of lesbian kissing (and non-kissing) titles. They even have some that have this weird bondage thing going on. SOD also has made a few under the Deep's line. They're some of the best there is too. Seriously, check out some of the Japanese lesbian kissing titles. You'll be hooked. Probably my #1 favorite type of movie right now. If the kissing fetish isn't your thing Deep's makes some good lesbian titles and so does Dogma. Luckily with Japanese lesbian porn there is more good titles than bad believe it or not! [Link] |
| GreenKnight Member 38 Posts 4/07 | Posted - May 31 2007 : 6:53PM [Link] |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | Posted - May 31 2007 : 7:10PM I think the best "lesbian porn" out there is going to be directed by a straight male who is shooting what he THINKS "lesbian porn" needs to look like to appeal to his inner degenerate. [Link] |
| Gabriel Nine Senior Member Firecracker 1273 Posts 8/01 | Posted - May 31 2007 : 7:15PM Nice tune though. Out of interest, it's about this stage of the conversation that I usually like to suggest that you might like to see the video with Nadia (Pixie) for [ invalid url ] by Add N to (X)??? [Link] |
| MikeOxhard Member Hedonism = Porn = Good 267 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 3:57AM [Link] |
| EvilMonkey Member 55 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 8:05PM Seems we have similar interestes, as I love lesbian porn, but unlike a lot of people here, I like the toys (franky, hours of just pussy licking gets kindof boring). Guess I like a good mix. Here's a couple suggestions: 1. I find myself enjoying the Girls on Girls series from New Sensations. I think they're up to #11 now. Most scenes have at least somewhat normal clothes, or at least lingerie that doesn't look like it was bought at the Five and Dime. Most scenes have at least a (very) short setup, and the action is mostly sensual, with anal mixed in. Not much spitting, choking, or throat gagging. 2. The second disc of Girlvana 2 features much of the same as above, with a bit more scene setup. 3) I just watched Girls Will Be Girls today, and it was pretty good too. Again, sensual sex, anal, A2M, but no spitting/gagging/choking. 4) Girls Love Girls is also similar to the above. Anyways, I agree on most of your points. I'm really tired of every scene starting off with a girl in lousy lingerie and platform stillettos (Good God I hate platform shoes with a passion). I really think buildup plays a lot into how into the scene I get...even just a 30 second setup does a lot. It doesn't even have to be realistic, just a generic and cliche "girl visiting the female doctor" works for me. What doesn't work is when the scene opens on a couch with two girls making out for no reason. Edited by - evilmonkey on 6/1/2007 8:05:15 PM [Link] |
| trivers77 Member 22 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 1 2007 : 11:17PM Via Fleshbot Also, for beautiful girls who enjoy lesbian porn, you should really check out Sandy from ClubSandy.com, especially when she works with Sophie Moone, Sandra Shine, or Clara G. I've heard her work with black girls is pretty good too. [Link] |
| SashaGrey Member 472 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 12:03AM tmd5: If you don't like muff diving or toys then what do you like? Scissoring and kissing? the fuck junkie ♠ [Link] |
| Gentleman Jon All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05 | Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 1:16AM [Link] |
| Senior Smith New Member 5 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 1:26AM It's kinda like saying, "I want the Lord of the Rings movies to be realistic". Then some guy chimes in with, "But elves and dwarves don't exist, so how can it be realistic?" [Link] |
| john thomas Deactivated User 1168 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Jun 2 2007 : 9:36PM [Link] |
| Watergun Deactivated User 4 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jun 3 2007 : 3:45AM Edited by - steph on 6/3/2007 11:38:13 AM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 7 2007 : 7:49PM [Link] |
| tontokabul New Member 2 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jun 11 2007 : 6:27PM Cheers, tonto..... (I know, scilly nick). [Link] |
| WillRiker New Member Shields Up! Red Alert! 4 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jun 11 2007 : 6:47PM I'm kind of torn about toys. I hate most toys, but a stapon from time to time is nice. Viv Thomas rules. End of story. [Link] |
| caroline-NL Member 543 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Jul 10 2007 : 9:14AM most lesbian porn is so horrible, because the girls/women arent real lesbians or even slightly interested in girl/girl action. They play it like a role, as if they would play a female marathon runner, but dont have the power for the whole distance. Watch Abby Winters (AUS) or Video Art Holland (NL) for really good and intense lesbian porn. [Link] |
| BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Jul 10 2007 : 9:19AM Simple as that. [Link] |
| JEWEL (imposter) Jewel De'Nyle 736 Posts 1/06 | Posted - Jul 10 2007 : 4:33PM [Link] |
| mrdngm Member 754 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Jul 10 2007 : 10:05PM As for the topic at hand: Sure, there's bad lesbian porn being made. At the same time, there's more good lesbian porn being made now than at any other time in the history of video. Take your choice: Viv Thomas. 21st Sextury. Girlfriends Films. Abby Winters. Triangle. TNV. The list goes on. Take a gander over at Lezlove. Also there are the good g/g scenes that randomly turn up in mainstream adult b/g features (those scenes can be hard to find but there are more of them than you'd think). I saw one recently w/Sammie Rhodes and Randi Wright that was a scorcher. [Link] |
| Leeroy Magic Member 178 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jul 10 2007 : 10:44PM I agree with what the original poster said but I feel those things aren't exclusive to lesbian porn only but to all porn. And as much as people say it's the girls fault or she wasn't lesbian enough, I'd have to say it's also the directors fault. The director has a part in what she wears. The director has a part in what she does. And I think even if the girl isn't a 100% lesbian, I'm sure with the right director she can lick pussy better than most lesbians out there. At least on camera she can! :) Now this is coming from a guy who has never gotten off to a lesbian scene. What it would take me to get off is two really cute girls, lots of smiling and laughing/giggling (love that stuff), some eyerolling, some oils/water, maybe candle wax. It would have to be very erotic. Slamming her body against a wall to eat her pussy erotic. Lots of kissing while fingering her down her panties until she orgasms. You have to find the most erotic aspects of it and stretch it out. Longer kissing, longer fingering down her panties. Some light hair pulling while kissing on her neck and body. That's erotica. It doesn't take a lesbian to understand that, just someone with a love for beautiful women and beautiful sex. And in all honesty lesbian porn without an orgasm/squirting is at the highest a 3 out 5 stars. It's just dry without it. I hate how it ends out of nowhere and I'm left thinking "ok, what the fuck." What a lot of porn lacks in my opinion is momentum and no porn needs momentum more than lesbian porn. Because it's kind of like watching a story. If there is no arc or climax you are left thinking meh that was weak. What a lot of directors are likely doing is saying "hey you know we could reach a wider audience if we throw a lesbian scene in it". Versus the director who's dedicated to it and sais fuck that, lets make a whole DVD with lesbian sex because it's hot. And in all honesty, lesbian sex isn't that far from solo scenes. How many solo scenes have you watched that left you thinking this sucks? Then stop and think about the few solo scenes that were actually pretty good. What I like in my solo scenes is the girl on a sybian. That is hot! Now throw in a girl kissing on her tits and mouth or maybe even joining her on the sybian. I remember watching Ann Marie on her call in show on a cable tv sex channel. Guys and girls would call in and she'd toy her pussy with a vibrating dildo and talk dirty to them. That was hot! And it was just her by herself! So what stepped that up? The dirty talk. You need dialogue to create real good erotica. And of course Ann Marie who was sexy as hell even by herself. :) Just my thoughts. Edited by - leeroy magic on 7/10/2007 10:57:49 PM [Link] |
| pis228 Member The Elusive Southern California Spearmint Rhino 88 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 1:35AM 'No Cocks Allowed #2' Sammie Rhodes-unbelievable!-I was really worried for her at some points. I thought she was going to meet the same end as a Spinal Tap drummer. [Link] |
| Terri_Zeek Member Yorkshire gal with a sexy career! 116 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 3:20AM Obviously to cover up for sexless scenes. A good strap-on fuck with lots of energy is good to watch. But endless scenes in which toys are inserted with no enthusiasm on the faces of either girl, is a real drag. I also dislike fake moaning and stares at the camera. All this "yes, yes, yes", when in fact we know they're thinking "pay-check, check, check!" I think most of the men and women on this forum want to see good sex, enthusiastic women, real, prolonged pussy eating, some strap-on, but cut out the toys too. [Link] |
| miguel Deactivated User 7 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 3:35PM Edited by - hardware on 7/11/2007 3:56:57 PM [Link] |
| pis228 Member The Elusive Southern California Spearmint Rhino 88 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 7:53PM That is a big turn-off for me. I like when the camera's presence is forgotten. The site I get my porn from has two categories: All Girl, and Lesbian. At first I didn't understand why there would be a need for both of those categories, and then I started watching more mainstream G2G action. Now the difference between the two is crystal clear to me. Here in S.F. in the Castro, there is a DVD store that, all though it carrys mostly M2M material, has a small section devoted to "lesbian" films. There is a series they carry called 'Muff Munchers' ( I am aware of the 'Cunt Munchers' series, but I think this is different.). I haven't actually viewed any of the films, but I noticed Jenna Haze is one of them and she doesn't have any make-up on. None of the other girls are wearing make-up, at least not the kind girls usually wear in mainstream films. So, I wondered if the absence of make-up was purposeful and intended to enhance the "lesbian" factor. Also, Jenna Haze was the only mainstream actress I recognized. I am not sure what other series exist that are purely devoted to realistic G2G action besides the stuff done by Nina Hartley, which Good Vibes sells. For a long time I stuck to the old JKP stuff for mainstream G2G, but then decided to check out some other offerings because I got tired of all the toy usuage in the JKP films. Edited by - pis228 on 7/11/2007 8:06:49 PM [Link] |
| Dracula Member Women's necks are too damned sexy for me! 756 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 8:21PM Nothing lights my fire more than to see two women really going at it necking. [Link] |
| EvilMonkey Member 55 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jul 11 2007 : 9:52PM Plus, there was not one (not even ONE!) platform shoe in the whole thing. The girls actually start off dressed normally...you know, like people actually dress. It was a welcome relief. I liked it. Too bad there was no A2M though, and some of the action was kindof repetitive. Oh, and can I mention that I hate this dialogue in lesbian movies: Breathe in. "Ohhhh" Breathe in. "Ohhhhh" Breathe in. "Ohhhh" (repeat for 25 minutes until the scene is over) Edited by - evilmonkey on 7/11/2007 9:52:58 PM [Link] |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Jul 12 2007 : 2:59PM [Link] |
| Terri_Zeek Member Yorkshire gal with a sexy career! 116 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Jul 12 2007 : 3:52PM Surely it cannot be difficult to hire lesbian only women, who are exhibitionists and sex crazy. There surely is no need for fake sex, or non lesbian or bisexual ladies in all-girl porn. I think the casting agents should bear the responsiblity. [Link] |
| mrdngm Member 754 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Jul 16 2007 : 4:43AM 21st Sextury's stuff seems like a harder version of Viv Thomas. A number of VT regulars were casted in the Lesbian Fever series. [Link] |
| Xenomorgue Deactivated User 50 Posts 9/06 | Posted - Jul 16 2007 : 5:57PM Oliver Brand shoots young anal lesbian porn that is simple and straightforward but also effective and quite hard. The series are: Petite Playthings (1), Girly Love (1-3), Les Honeys (1-2), LezCuties (1-7). The last series is released as Teen Fever in the USA. Andrew Youngman shoots more glamorous lesbian porn. The models are a bit older, the actions is slower and fits better in the LezLove or Viv Thomas tradition. Andrew Young series are: Les Babez, Sugar Candy, Sandy's Club, Les Glam (some titles are directed by John Walton). The last two series are released as Lesbian Fever in the USA. Other 21Sextury directors shooting lesbian porn are John Walton (Lesbian First Timers; Sweeter) and Hungarian performer Sophie Moone (Secrets). Edited by - Xenomorgue on 7/16/2007 6:13:44 PM [Link] |
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