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| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | As a lover of lesbian pissmovies I always have to go to European sites like www.glimpse-it.com and www.hightide-video.com The Brazilian MFX site is down because of the arrest of the owner when he visited the usa. Piss and scat maybe sickening to most people but when you look at it in a neutral way you could say that sperm, squirting or spitting is the same. They are all just bodily fluids. Why is it allowed to squirt and ejaculate in womens or mens faces but forbidden to do the same with piss or the brown stuff? Taking the fact that there are grown up people voluntering to act in such movies I do not understand why piss and scat is obscene but squirting and ejaculating not... I personally can't watch a scatmovie either.. but when people want to do stuff like that and see stuff like that I think it should be allowed. And when it is allowed.... it would bring me more choice in material :-) The States is a beautifull country.. but sometimes I do not understand you ;-) A European guy Edited by - tintintin on Aug 10 2007 [Link] |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | Ok for the umpteenth time heres how it works in the USA The only thing that is illegal is CP period anything else is legal UNTIL it is found to be obscene by the Miller Test and community standards. Until interstate commerce is involved its a state issue what maybe acceptable in one state may not be in another. but it is all legal until a jury declares it obscene deal widdit |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | what you havent really understood is that it isnt the customer per se who isn't ready Its the producers. you see obscenity here is determined by the jury its the only legal precedent I know of where where there is no determining factor of a crime until after you have been convicted. Obscenity as a legal term is nebulous, there is no specific definition aoutside the three pronged miller test which you can google if you are so inclined. Its the producers who dont want to face obscenity charges in the event that their golden masterpiece might become subject to examination by a jury that would declare it to be obscene, at which point they dont say hey this is obscene dont do it anymore...instead they haul his ass directly to jail where he then has 10 or more years to understand the error of his judgment in thinking that his idea of art is another man's idea of a crime. Luicrous? Yes. But thats the reality of it. |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | I once saw the movie about Larry Flint.. in the end he won his case. That's how porn got legal in the us isn't it? (Pardon me if i'm wrong) The porn business is a very big business with lots of money. Hasn't anybody with alot of money for lawyers tried to fight this Luicrous reality? (The three pronged miller test) Edited by - tintintin on 8/10/2007 3:03:46 PM |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | obscenity isnt legal but nobody can absolutely define obscenity and the definition varies from community to community. The Miller test was handed down by our supreme court, it cant be challenged per se but it can be revisited as it no doubt will in current federal cases. |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | everyone faces obscenity charges because we don't know if what we have released is obscene or not, even Playboy Magazine has battled obscenity charges, but as time goes on someone will push the envelope like Larry Flynt did and ace the charges and win opening the way for everyone else. The first girl known for squirting came along in the 80s, a chick named Fallon. by calling it squirting as opposed to pissing, which it really is most likely it seems to be more acceptable the tyhing to remember is the farther a porner goes out on a limb (think Max) the more likely he is to face obscenity prosecution (think Max again) Thats the reality |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | There are some european versions of Max Hardcore. So I guess the obscenety laws don't count for sending stuff abroad? If that is the case. Why aren't pornproducers interested in making stuff like pissingmovies in America for millions of people abroad? Edited by - tintintin on 8/10/2007 3:43:59 PM |
| tmd5 Member seika izumi 502 Posts 6/04 | I wonder what happens when you are hit with an obscenity charge? Do you have huge fines or go straight to jail? I wish I could find out what happened in the end to people that were hit with an obscenity charge. Also, MFX is still up. Just not in the USA. They are now hosted on european web servers and still ship to the USA from europe. Any scat, vomit or pissing porn you import into the USA is not going to be seized ever. They can probably still get away with taking anything you import into the USA if they don't like it though. I'm 100% sure that bestiality and CP would be a guaranteed seizure (and the later an arrest obviously). You can still get an obscenity charge if you ONLY export your "obscene" movies from the USA. This is because you are using the US postal service for this (since it's run by uncle sam). Maybe you can get away with it by using UPS or Fedex. Who knows. I doubt it! Edited by - tmd5 on 8/11/2007 9:13:24 PM |
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| Prophit Member 378 Posts 1/07 | On this squirting vs. pissing thing: Maybe we will see the day when someone tries to declare a squirting movie obscene and this argument is taken to court. Could probably help settle things once and for all. :) I bet if they came to the conclusion that female ejaculation is real they wouldn't be able to ban it because if a man has the right to cum in pornos then females have the right too. Edited by - Prophit on 8/12/2007 3:13:54 AM |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | In my opinion the mayority of people in the US are Liberal in their heart. However they let themselfs be ruled by Christian fundamentalists. Because of those fanatic right wing groups alot of people in the states are afraight. Afraight of loosing your job when you say you are gay, afraight of being banned by the community when you admid being polygamic or having other ideas about issues like the war or Healthcare. Americans have the right to own and sell guns wich can lead to deaths but they face 5 years in prison when they film and distribute pee porn..... I don’t get it... (DON'T MISUNDERTSAND ME.. I AM NOT FOR BANNING GUNS!) Quote: I would also think that Bestiality would also be illegal. I personally feel it should be banned, but I don't want to get into an argument here. TINTIN: As I said: As long as there is no force and people do sexacts as volunteers everything should be allowed. Animals can’t choose so bestiality is out of the question. Quote: The European operation is up but they have always been dedicated only to selling stuff. I don't know if MFX is still producing new movies in Brazil though. TINTIN: Mfx is shut down and they only sell the old stuff on mfx europe. Quote: While piss and scat may turn a few people on sexually, the government and much of the public considers piss and scat nothing more than human waste. Therefore it is considered more obscene than ejaculating and squirting. TINTIN: You could also say that wearing rubber outfits and using a whipe or candles has nothing to do with sex... but it can.. just like piss or scat. About a few people beeing turned on by scat and piss... I thing you are wrong wrong wrong... look at the succes of squirting... Edited by - tintintin on 8/12/2007 7:38:30 AM |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | Because it's depraved shit. Pun intended. Tintintin, when you say that "they are just bodily fluids", piss and shit are excrements; spit and semen are there to serve a purpose, mostly sexual. The reason normal sex is allowed in our porn, and scat isn't, is the obscenity thing as MikeSouth explained; we all (well, 99% of us) do the sex thing, spit and semen included, so it's easy to understand that it's ok to watch it on video... However, 99% of us DO NOT normally do scat, so that's why it's NOT ok to watch it on video. |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | I find that very narrowminded or does the production of such movies havesome kind of impact on your life? You could also say "99 procent of Europeans don't eat Antz, eating Antz is depraved shit, so eating Antz should be forbidden. 90 procent of the people don't like things like SM or licking feet.. so according to your point of view no one should be able to produce it or watch that either? A pitty for those who love to see feetlicking or sm. As I said before.. the only reason to forbit things should be that it harms somebody. In case of dvd or video... if you don't like it don't watch it, but give the people who love such things their freedom to produce that stuff. Edited by - tintintin on 8/12/2007 7:57:39 AM |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | "if you don't like it don't watch it" Good point, but my point was that the REASON it's forbidden in the USA is because it's considered OBSCENE by The Man. The reason The Man considers it obscene is because 99.99% of The Man considers scat to be depraved shit. I'm not the one responsible for its illegality, so fuck off with your personal attack. S&M and foot fetishes are definitely more popular than scat, plus they are not considered obscene, just little odd. Like fat chicks or fisting. By the way, the only S&M that is allowed (in the UK at least) is where the violence is very mild, and doesn't appear to actually harm anyone. Edited by - kensington chapp on 8/12/2007 8:31:19 AM |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | |
| Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07 | |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 | I have no interest whatever in having sex with an animal, but I am amazed that all the nonsense that comes up about "consent". Does it not occur to people that if animals did not like sex there wouldn't be any baby animals? I strongly doubt that any animal would see sex as being any different from all the other affection and petting that they routinely get from humans. I sincerely hope that all the people saying "animals can't choose" are vegetarians. We wouldn't want to be hypocrites now, would we? |
| TarynThomas Senior Member Taryn It Up 1013 Posts 2/05 | |
| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | |
| Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07 | |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | However, as has been pointed out countless times, popular speech doesn't need protection. 99% of people don't need the First Amendment. They're a majority and a majority never needs protection. It's that 1% that it was pretty much indisputably intended to protect. |
| Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02 | |
| Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07 | |
| Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07 | |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | My position was that maybe those are exactly the kind of people the First Amendment was written for. You never need such protection unless a large number of people feel that what you do or what you like is wrong. Why would they have written it if not for the minority in a given situation? Maybe we just read one another wrong. I don't know. At any rate, I feel that people who like it aren't hurting anyone as far as I know. It's not like there's a wide market for it anyway. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/14/2007 6:06:34 AM |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | |
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| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | The discussion here is not about the question if pissing or shitting on somebody is gross. The discussion is that in my point of view it is gross that people face prison in the USA when recording and distributing this stuff. Edited by - tintintin on 8/14/2007 3:10:55 PM |
| prfb Member 165 Posts 6/05 | If I remember right, the original court decisions that made an above-ground porn industry possible in the USA date back to the "Deep Throat" days, around 40 years ago. And those were basically high-court judges begging the question: "We can't come up with any definition of "obscene" that will..., er, hold up in court, nationwide," they declared. So they punted, and invoked a new and mystically vague "community standards" notion. Lawyers, check me on this one. At the time, this seemed like a victory for free speech - it let Deep Throat, DMJ, etc. be seen in NYC and LA and so on. Paving the way for even wider tolerance all over, later on. East Bumfuck Oklahoma was - for once - not setting the standards for everybody else. In the long run, though, this has worked out to be a poisonous precedent. Any time any reich-wing theofascist Junior G-man with political aspirations wanted to make points with "The Base" all he had to do was haul Sleaze E. Productions from Chatsworth, CA into the East Bumfuck, OK courthouse. Community Standards, anybody? Mr. Sleaze is, if nothing else, a businessman, and knows that any government-funded prosecution could grind him down to nothing even if he "won" his case and avoided jail. So the trick has become to try to give the fans all they want (and sell a lot of DVD's or whatever) while not catching the attention of Holy Righteous Crusading Legal Eagles gunning for higher office. And to avoid invoking any more Congressional interference/regulation, like all of the Regan-years hoo-hah. It's almost funny to watch the industry push the boundaries and then scurry back under cover when threatened. Ballsy guys like Mr. Flynt are few and far between. Vagueness, confusion, threat, and corruption are functional: they let the money-making continue while fronting all pure and chaste -- just ask the Mormon Mariott family! Shorter answer: We Americans luvs us some hypocrisy! |
| Luvvy Duvvy Deactivated User 228 Posts 5/04 |
Make a right mess though! |
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| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | I continue to maintain that the glory days (such as they were), are winding down for porn and porn fans. The dark ages are approaching once more. You can see it everywhere. It might not be much of a threat except that I don't think anyone cares that much. They got their tax cuts. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/15/2007 4:25:58 AM |
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| dvd4dvd Deactivated User 292 Posts 6/07 | I personally wouldnt wanna kiss a girl like this. wouldnt tongue kiss her either. Im guessing she would be ugly as well as nasty. Im sure you wouldnt see Jenna Jameson do this? so obviously it aint something that total hotties and gorgeous babes would do. and while Im on that topic, Im sure if you ( man ) are into that kinda shit and that turns you on, you can forget about ever being with a total hottie and a total babe. cause they simply are not into that SHIT ( get it? ) |
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| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 |
Edited by - randomprecision on 8/16/2007 1:28:07 AM |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 |
The most stunningly beautiful woman I have ever seen, and she has made the full range of this stuff. |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | |
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| dvd4dvd Deactivated User 292 Posts 6/07 | if a babe taking a dump, or drinking your piss, or being totally into eating your shit or being completely covered in your shit turns you on. go for it! Like I said. "you will not see the hottest of the hottest doing this shit. sure. there are exceptions to the rules just like everything on earth, but Im 900% sure that when you see 1 kick ass total babe, whose got it going on from head to toe, hot bod, hot boobs, hot little pussy, great feature and just totally perfect, Im sure that the first thing that does NOT come to your mind is "gee I wonder if she will allow me to piss down her throat and take a dump in her mouth"!! Like I said. if your into that "shit" go for it..buy up all the videos in the world that have that shit |
| dvd4dvd Deactivated User 292 Posts 6/07 | if your into having girls drink your piss, next time you go to the hottest bar on a friday night, either down West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, Long Beach or Marina Harbor,Laguna Beach or Newport Beach..why dontcha walk right up to the bartender, hop on the table, whip out your cock and yell out..."HEY LADIES! DRINKS ON THE HOUSE! FREE! LINE UP AND DRINK MY PISS! " and count the seconds it will take to be taken downtown to the station. ok? |
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