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Gof
Member

United Kingdom
151 Posts
4/03
Posted - May 8 2004 : 1:26PM
Feeding into a recent debate on the forum about where gonzo goes from here, I would appreciate other members' thoughts on whether gonzo could be made more erotic if there were some premise for the sex.

Gonzo has come to mean wall to wall sex, where the scene begins with the girl or guy walking into the room and the sex commencing.

A number of series begin each scene with a short interview of the girl, but the questions tend to be the ubiquitious, "At what age did you first have sex?", "How many movies have you made?", etc..

I recently bought Zero Tolerance's Wet Dreams Cum True 2, which attempts to represent common male fantasies by dressing the women up as cheerleaders, teachers, brides etc. Apart from the outfits however, it was the same basic gonzo formula of girl walks into room, strips, and then shags guy.

I would like to see a film based on the theme of male or female fantasies, but where a little more effort is made to build up the scenario and some thought is given to the casting.

Take the following scenario as an example.

The scene begins with a hen pecked husband getting nagged at by his domineering wife. She is complaining about the state of the house and gives him a list of tasks to do by the time she returns from her evening job at the local mall. All he wants to do is relax and watch the ball game after a hard day at the office.

His wife leaves, and shortly after there is a knock at the door. His son's girlfriend is at the door, all dressed up for a night on the town. Unfortunately, it seems that she didn't get the message from Junior that he had extra football practice after school and so he would be running about an hour late. I think Brianna Blaze would make an excellent girlfriend.

Brianna's dad has just dropped her off and it is raining and so she asks hubby if she can wait for her boyfriend indoors. Hubby is hesitant, but reluctantly agrees as she cannot be expected to stay outside.

Once inside she sits and watches the game and hubby goes into the kitchen. Brianna begins to flirt a little with Mr. Scott and comments on how good the men's butts look in those tight pants. Mr. Scott begins to sweat a little and cannot help but notice Brianna's tanned, smmoth legs as she relaxes on the sofa.

Brianna comes into the kitchen and begins by helping with the drying. She is very confident and flirty and begins to tell Mr. Scott about the problems her and Junior are having in the bedroom. It seems Junior has problems holding back and she really needs someone more experienced.

The scene then progresses to sex in the kitchen and the lounge with Brianna playing the dominant lead throughout.

Ok this may sound a little long winded but it would only take about 5 minuts to act out. The point is the scenario would allow a believable premise for the sex and would allow the Brianna character to play the dominant role

I think if gonzo is to move to the next level then it must not only try to deliver on a visual level, but also on a psychological level.

I've heard many critics of porn over the years say that, "When you've seen one porno, you've seen them all." And to some extent, I agree with them. If porn simply works on a purely visual level then there are only so many sex positions, locations, outfits, fetishes and ultimately girls and so the product, particularly gonzo, looks much the same.

Working on a psychological level the sex becomes believable, it becomes easier to relate to and so more real, more erotic for the viewer. It allows the participants to adopt a submissive or dominant role and so gives the sex a harder edge.

I'm not suggesting that gonzos become features, which anyway are still guilty of premiseless sex, merely that they try and push the viewers buttons a little more.

Like partners who use role play to spice up their sex life, I think Gonzo needs to be a little more subtle.

boss_hog
Member

maryland
266 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 8 2004 : 3:17PM
I think there is a male psychologial element to porn and it is explored quite well by Joey Silvera's Service Animals the way he sets his scenes up, he tells a story with the hardcore sex and domination and costumes.

Rocco also sets up a story very well with the way he introduces the women.

dac
David Aaron Clark

Just another WKW wannabe
574 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 8 2004 : 8:05PM
I love you guys. Yes! That is true gonzo, and what it was supposed to be in the first place -- which is why you see it in Silvera and Rocco's work! The fans have been sold a bill of goods by producers who shot old-fashioned formulaic loop-sex with no personality and then claim to you guys "it's gonzo" to justify the fact they spent no money or effort or even real thought to make the scene look good or be interesting.

Don't let those here in the industry who are businessmen and nothing else tell you what "gonzo" is, or define YOUR porn for you. Demand more!

sorry to butt in, too much time on my hands,
dac

davidaaronclark.com
asianmouthclub.com

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cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - May 8 2004 : 9:08PM
Keep hollering, Gof. You aren't the first to beat that drum *ahem*. Trouble is, what we're asking requires effort. More effort = higher quality, but less product. Less product = lower bottom line. Keep dreaming, brother.

But I hear ya!

zigster
Member

51 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 12 2004 : 6:48PM
Contrary to your belief, that particular scenario would not take "5 minutes" to act out. Take your own little video camera, write a 5 page script, and try to act it out in your house so that it looks professional. With actors on their lines and the lights moved around...okay so 3 hours later, you might be getting closer...

Roleplay with a good setup takes significant time resources that most porn producers are not willing to invest.

Zig

 
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 12 2004 : 6:52PM
Zig is smart.

-T.C.

Beeone
Member

58 Posts
7/01
Posted - May 12 2004 : 7:42PM
I kinda agree with Gof here, for example Alexa Rae's scene in Flesh hunter 2, the role playing going on before the actual sex is really what makes that scene so amazing. And while many/most? of Jules' scenes have some sort of story I think that one works very well.
Walter Burns
Legendary Quoter

IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - May 12 2004 : 8:03PM
Role playing in porn is a matter of having the appropriate costume, isn't it?



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M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - May 12 2004 : 9:03PM
I love Mason's movies becuase she sets each scene up, kind of like a vignette style that used to be more prevalent in porn.
Kind of like Rob Black used to do when he was with Elegant Angel. Not exactly the same, but in a similar way.
HuggyBear
Member

105 Posts
3/02
Posted - May 14 2004 : 4:36AM
Roleplay needs to continue throughout the entire scene, It's pointless going to the trouble of an outfit and setup for a scene if as soon as they start sucking/fucking they just drop the whole concpet of the roleplay set up.
This happens WAY too much... If you are going to set up a scene then follow it through to its conclusion in charactor. Joey Silvira gets this right more often than not, and there aren't too many others who even come close to matching Joey!



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