ZZinsider was one of my favorite sites, but that sadly got shut down earlier this year. Since the cameras are rolling, why not give us more insight into the shoot and what goes on. At the bare minimum, I think video of the photoshoot should be added, since they give us the pics from the photo shoot at most major sites. Seems like BikiniRiot is a pioneer in this. The girls are absolutely hilarious and SEXY, when they show the photoshoot footage. They aren't acting and it's great to see them like that. Why has behind the scenes been scrapped all of a sudden?
Heavenly Heavily Hootered Hos R Good 332 Posts 4/03
Posted - Jan 11 2014 : 6:34AM
There are two types of BTS that I enjoy 1) Hardcore photo shoot, where the lady does all kinds of nasty things, posing and smiling for the camera. Some off camera voice tells her to deepthroat or whatever, and she does so with a smile...whatever she is told 2) extra curricular fucking - the lady taking pity on one of the crew, her SP taking his turn after her scene, maybe earning some extra cash..
There are many pornstars I started liking more because of their BTS stuff. It's fun seeing the "real" girl when she isn't performing for the camera. For me it's a turn on when you see that they really are into the sex and/or when they have cool likeable personalities. It's also interesting to see some of what what goes on in the making of a porn scene. Seeing unplanned/unscripted sex is great. Even the interviews with some pornstars can be good depending on the girl and the questions asked.
^Number 1 doesn't make a lot of sense to me because a performer hired to do a hardcore photo shoot will expect to be paid more if there is to be a video as well since she was contracted for one and not the other. Now if the contract includes both things then it's not really a BTS so much as your basic hardcore shoot with both photos and video. Number 2 should not even exist because if there is such a thing then that means that a studio allowed a performer to have sex with a non-tested man on their set. I don't know if it's illegal to do that but if it isn't then it should be because that is beyond stupid.
It amazes me how naive people can be. Porn is the business of erotic performance. As such, "talent" is contracted to perform. Everything you see is a performance. Good performance approximates our fantasies. Be happy with that! I do not doubt that there is some blurring between the talent as performer and the talent as a person, but this is only to add to the illusion. It is not in the industry's interest to portray the reality of the business. Real BTS only exists in a true documentary, and as such is not erotic. We should demand better dialogue, better scripting. Then we could have performances which would be more erotic.
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fanman44 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 11 2014 : 9:49PM
yes but i like to see a different side of the stars.
Most directors shoot the photos we see on the box covers before the actual scene starts. The stars start having sex and are posed to take the photos. That way the photographer can get in and take good shots in good poses without having to try and do it during the actual scene. That's why sometimes the pics on the boxcover doesn't line up exactly with what you see in the scene like the girl might be wearing shoes in all the shots/positions on the boxcover but actually takes them off early in the scene. This is the norm and doesn't pay extra. I just watched a BTS for ORGY MASTERS were the cast were having sex for the purpose of taking photos and it as both fun and hot to see them talking and joking around while they did it. Sophie Dee was talking about what men should do to get help prep their girlfriends for anal sex in a very casual way while it was all going on and Brigitte B. would drift in and out of the conversation in between moaning and getting lost in the sex and saying how good it felt. It was fun for me watching how casual they were about it and how they were enjoying the sex without having to put on a show for video.This kind of stuff does happen but it's rare and usually with people who already know each other off camera and probably have had sex before. In other cases when it does happen it's the girl having sex with a male pornstar who's on set waiting to shoot another scene later. This type of thing wouldn't happen so much these days with all the recent health scares but years ago you'd see it in a BTS from time to time. In a LEWOOD production BTS I saw after the scene was done Gia Polama was the on set make-up artist and started blowing one of the proformers just for fun. Francesca Le saw it and started acting like she was blowing the cameraman who was pornstar Claudio and eventually started blowing him for real. You can tell it was unplanned and they were all just goofing around...well maybe not Gia.
Not true at all. Sure some BTS stuff is more set up and made to look sexier than it is but a lot of it is people just being themselves. A lot of fans don't believe it but many girls in porn actually like sex and are or can be very sexual when they are in an enviornment where they feel safe. So when they aren't performing for the camera they don't have the hangups about sex many women do. Yeah, they get paid for their performance but their sexuality doesn't always go on and off like a light switch when the scene is over. Sometimes they're playing it up a bit for the camera but sometimes they're just having fun and being themselves.
^ Blowing the BTS camera guy? That was either set up or Jesse Jane and her friend were drunk/high/dumber than a box of hammers that day. They should know (especially Jesse) talent that blow the crew (more than likely untested) get put on other performers "no" lists very quickly as they don't want to take the risk of getting the BTS guy's (or any other crew members that they blew/fucked) VD.
Jamal Johnson. He's not a performer that I'm aware of, and has been a member of the DP crew since forever. Not really the place for a discussion about testing/barrier protection in porn, but the idea of Jesse or Riley being on a male performer's 'no list' is fairly unlikely. Check it out; I'm unsure what the board's policy towards Manwin scenes on Manwin tube sites is, but the upload is everywhere.
^Not 100% but I feel confident. I streamed the clip and the girls are in flight suits and aviators, so I'm guessing it's Top Guns. Scott walks in after the blowjob, so I don't think he was the recipient, but I can't ID a performer by his dick. And one of the girls calls the camera man 'Jamal' so I'm putting two and two together. Maybe there was some good camera work where it started with just the cameraman in the mirror and he then filmed a POV shot of Scott getting blown? If so, it fooled me. Not that I'm concerned about it. I still say it's one of the hottest scenes to come out of Digital Playground, BTS or not.
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fanman44 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 13 2014 : 11:19PM
Where did you stream it? I have DP membership but they wont let me stream it. Does the scene you watched take place in the bathroom? because mine does.
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Posted - Jan 13 2014 : 11:20PM
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Posted - Jan 13 2014 : 11:21PM
Found it. Its scott nails https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/review/top-guns-digital-playground-dvd-blu-ray-combo-pack-26347
Heavenly Heavily Hootered Hos R Good 332 Posts 4/03
Posted - Jan 23 2014 : 6:45AM
" talent that blow the crew (more than likely untested) get put on other performers "no" lists very quickly as they don't want to take the risk of getting the BTS guy's (or any other crew members that they blew/fucked) VD." OK, at the risk of being dumb, what is the difference between having sex with the crew, and having sex with some random guy they pick up that night at a bar? Other than the fact their coperformers may not actually witness the after hours contact...
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Dragon Sign Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 11 2014 : 2:55PM
To cut away the BTS part is a little bit of a crime to the consumers. It's not that hard to shoot and the editing can't be taken too seriously. Most of the BTS from the years 2005 - 2009 seemed like pure joy. It's California, and the landscapes and the sun and the pools and the mansions and all that stuff you just can't feel uncomfortably about. It's not there to be left out. Saw Jamie Elle for at leat five minutes in the shower in a volume of Teens With Tits the other day. She laughed and they talked Sal Genoa Diabolic 05 style. She was asked to squeeze her tits into the wall you could easily look half through. You don't get to see that no more. It's dried out, this BTS. Maybe the buyers would be more, at least they would be happy to get it back.
If talent finds out that chicks are fucking and sucking every guy they meet in a bar that lands them on no lists as well. It is just easier to tell if a chick is blowing the camera man or PA than if she is blowing a line of guys on Hollywood and Vine or a line of tradesmen at a factory in Vernon. There isn't much difference otherwise as far as someone's future in the biz IMO.
Genesis Skye bts from choke it down, has her lying on her side trying to get started into the anal. She is explaining how she had had a rough anal the day before that is why she needed extra time getting it worked in. She squeaks an groans, she pushed the dude back a few times just a great tid bit. There must be more footage out there like this, as several forums are based on anal pain, or stars pushed to the edge. What a niche that could be filled while the slow down in filing is happening.
wow, look at you goin back like 10 years.... lates, von S.
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Posted - Feb 12 2014 : 2:10PM
The irony is there is plenty of space on DVD's let alone Blu Rays, however BTS has lost its shine. At it's best it was a 3-5 minute interview or funny or nasty out takes. Now it some guy that doesn't know how to hold a camera steady talking to a some female while she's going through her set suitcase. If I was a shooter, I'd shoot the talent as they arrive, interview then in the make up chair and then show them walking to set, showing the complete transformation. Might not be possible with all talent as so many females wear wigs or are too vain to show their face with makeup. But I would find a way to make the BTS so interesting that like a Marvel Film, you would stay in your seats until after the credits rolled and the lights came up.
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JB_X Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 26 2014 : 3:57AM
It wasn't a crew member. It was definitely Scott Nails. I haven't bought a Digital Playground movie in a long time, but behind the scenes sex between performers was pretty common.
That sounds more likely. Scott Nails is a performer and likely tested for VD so Jesse and her friend fucking him won't likely get them on those NO lists like fucking the camera operator or BTS interviewer would.
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Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 1:24PM
