Well, there is something I keep on wondering for a certain time now. Besides the obvious (Monique Alexander), I really like to see Jenna Haze, Roxy Jezel or Sasha Grey in action (to name only a few). As a matter of fact, these ladies all have something in common - and I'm not talking about that they are sadly some of the last few natural babes without 'plastic' in their bodies - no, I'm talking about, that they are doing anal in their scenes quite regularly. Well, I know that watching gonzo-movies will bring it along - but anyways...If I want to see them, I will have to accept this. I read quite a lot comments here and there like in some reviews "she's not doing anal, so the scene would be better if she does", "why doesn't she do anal" or "it's about time she does anal". Now, I just would like to know what you think about anal sex or better asked, what is so special about a cock in a girls ass? Given the choice I could really live without it anyway. I am sure, mother nature wasn't that wrong, when giving women vaginas, so where does this concentration on anal sex come from? I never had the feeling that anal sex makes a scene hotter/better... Well, maybe I am left alone with this opinion, but that's why I am asking you. Topic Moved by - lindi on Nov 13 2007
Because it's wrong! And that's what makes it so right. It's just the site of big cocks entering tight round holes, there's something kinkier and dirtier about it. Nothing more complicated than that. I know there are plenty of porn lovers who hate anal. But they are well served by vanilla studios like Digital Playground and Vivid who churn out "couples" friendly porn. There's something for everyone out there at the end of the day. Nothing says romance like anal sex.
If you're losing your soul and you know it, then you've still got a soul left to lose. 86 Posts 11/07
Posted - Nov 13 2007 : 11:53AM
LOL...Yeah. I kinda like Roxy too - and hell yeah - somehow Mo4 is right: If ya wanna see her you always [almost always] get to see her ass f*ck*d too. Guess you're missing something between vanilla and gonzo - - - Let's create vanzo Sorry 'bout that
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Posted - Nov 13 2007 : 11:58AM
"pussies are bullshit" ""Answer me something. How do you account for the emphasis, not just in your . . . work but in the industry in general, how do you account for the truly incredible emphasis on anal sex?" After a minimal shrug and a minimal pause Stagliano said, "Pussies are bullshit." Now John was being obedient to the dictionary definition of "bullshit" which is nonsense intended to deceive." Interesting article from 2001.
You have to understand that sex with a partner is not just a physical act but also a psychological and emotional one. People mingle not just their bodies but also their minds, their emotions, and their souls when they have sex with each other. And it's this desire to unite mentally and psychologically with the lady that drives men's interest in anal sex with her. Men don't have vagina's. And a woman's experience of vaginal sex is a bit of mystery for men. Men can't imagine well how vaginal sex feels for the woman. And this lack of understanding of the woman's vaginal pleasure limits men's ability to empathise with her, feel what she feels and thus unite with her emotionally and psychologically in their minds. But anal anatomy is the same for both men and women. Which means that a man can imagine well how a woman feels when she is having anal sex with him. And the man's natural understanding of how the lady feels allows him to empathise with her, feel what she feels and thus unite with her in both body and mind. Physically, perhaps vaginal sex is often more satisfying because the woman's body is built for it in terms of natural lubrication and cleanliness. But anal sex with the lady is more psychologically satisfying for many men. And that's why they like it so much. Also, watching porn movies is a very different experience from having actual sex with a partner. The satisfaction of watching a porn movie is mostly psychological because the viewer cannot physically participate in the sex action. He can only participate emotionally and psychologically. And since anal sex with the lady is better in terms of psychological satisfaction for men. It's no surprise that so many male viewers want to see ladies have lots of anal sex with the guys in porn movies. But I can say from my own experience that in real life, where the psychological and the physical satisfaction of being with a real lady is evenly balanced. My interest in actually having anal sex with the lady is not nearly as great as it is in watching it done in porn movies. Edited by - Dan on 11/13/2007 2:15:28 PM
I'm not here, this isn't happening! 2571 Posts 6/04
Posted - Nov 13 2007 : 2:45PM
I like anal, becuase it'S something I don't do n real life but want to. And this fixation is kinda McCartney syndrome. You ask why doesn't he writes songs like "yesterday" or "get back" again. Same with women who got fucked up the ass by 2 guys and now you see them on a boring 1 on 1 vag only scene. You think: "She already took 2 dicks up that ass without feeling anything and still asking for more... Now she screams like bad with a average dick in her pussy?" ... Boring! It depends on the women I think. Some women are hot to watch without anal. But most women who got dp'ed already are expected to do this regularly. There are few exceptions of course...
Well, let's see. Very few people ever get 18 years of pure misery from taking a dick up the ass. Some women might actually want to save their pussy (as much as they can, anyway) for someone special. Maybe they think doing mostly anal is a way to do that. AND - People like anal. OK, not everyone likes it but most people apparently do. Some porn companies may be a little shoddy on how they're run but they're not stupid. They make what sells.
And there are many heterosexuals who aren't so obsessed with gays they literally see them everywhere. Edited by - randomprecision on 11/13/2007 8:26:12 PM
I like anal because it's the most submissive thing I could possibly do.. It's like I lose all control.. and sometimes that's what I need.. To feel owned.. just for a little bit..
as far as watching it.. I don't mind a scene that offers a variety of everything. Hannah West ;)
Who says they want nothing to do with pussy? Anal porn just happens to be more popular with pervs. Maybe they're gay. Maybe they're not. Maybe they're bi. Maybe they don't even care what they are. And if they don't, why do you?
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These R The Buttocks Of Ryan Star: No Butt Can Compare 248 Posts 6/07
Posted - Nov 13 2007 : 10:40PM
Anal is truly spectacular when a girl starts in the business as a non-anal performer and then later, opts for anal scenes. An absolutely perfect example was Keri Sable doing her first anal in Perfect Specimens 2. I use Keri Sable as an example here because she is gorgeous. Many girls (but all) who do anal are just OK looking. The anal appeal: 1.)By all accounts, Anal Sex can be painful -guys love to imagine that the starlet may be in some type of pain or discomfort (by their complete BS trash talk during the sodomy, me thinks they like it too much) To say nothing about Painkillers, which for female performers, can have more advantages than most can imagine. 2.) If a girl is beyond gorgeous (like one of your absolute favorites), forget "the pain": You just hanker to see some lucky SOB sodomise her, as this is the only way for a man to become truly one with an amazing girl's ass. I mentioned Keri Sable, but some other anal access girls that I find to be amazing are: Cody Lane (my lord that BuBBle Butt!),Roxxy Rush (Big All-Natural B(oYo)Bs, little ass), Bailey (Very DD Cup Busty), Nikita Denise,Velicity Von, Whitney Stevens, Cassandra (GIANT EE CUP All-Natural Super B(oYo)BS*note I don't know if she's still performing, but she took Peter North Up the Butt in "Anal Addicts 3", Avy Scott (Takes All 13" Of Manding Up The BUTT in "Big Black Beast."-all time favorite) Girls who are All Naturally very busty and also Do Anal are tougher to come by, which is why I adore them. I'm Dying To See These Faves Do Anal One Day Soon: Brooke Banner Sara Stone Gianna Brandy Talore Natasha Nice Sammie Rhodes The Luv Twins (at the same time) just to name a few The best anal scenes are, of course, always with Lexington Steele, Mandingo(especially), Peter North The rare scene when a girl does show distress with anal penetration is fun, but rare. I actually saw Katja take Jack Napier up the butt like it was nothing, but when she was vaginally penetrated by him, she was in a lot of pain.
Vastly prefer pussy. Don't care if I ever see another anal scene again as long as I live. I tolerate anal, because, if you want to watch new porn you have no choice One-on-one scenes with vaginal sex (no anal) would save the studios a whole lot of money too, wouldn't it?
I don't know. Maybe the quote "pussy is BULLSHIT" has something to do with it. If my limited understanding of English slang hasn't failed me, when someone calls something "bullshit", they mean they don't care much for it. Simple enough?
I don't care. I'm puzzled as to why someone who doesn't like pussy bothers to watch straight porn in the first place. Then again, that's just logic. I wouldn't expect you to waste your time with it.
This thread really isn't my thing, but I feel compelled to comment on the use of the word logic here. Someone says they do not like pussy. They do not say, unless I missed it, they like masculine sexuality (the idea of being with a man and consumating that type of relationship with intercourse). There is a subtext of finding feminine sexuality appealing when the woman (beautiful, smooth, able to bear children, with pussy, breasts,...) gets fucked in the ass. It's a preference, a professed exclusive preference. How does saying you only like to watch women be penetrated anally translate into a latent desire to watch men be penetrated anally? Could you direct the logical process here? I'm curious, that's all. There was a porn star, Chloe, from the 90s who stated she could only orgasm when fucked in the ass. Is she a man, but needs someone to point that out to her? I am now going to lay off posting on provocative threads, but it's difficult when posters comment as though speaking for a majority or make generalizations that are unfounded. Make a point, express an opinion, but own it as your own, keep the facts straight, and don't put others down. We should all become familiar with the term "subjective". Case in point, this is just my opinion, I don't have all the facts and am not an expert. Thanks for your time!
I can understand if someone likes anal sex, although it isn't MY thing. But my issue here is with those who simply don't like pussy. While the vagina is not all that there is to a woman, surely, a straight man wouldn't be uninterested in a canal specifically designed for penile penetration. Don't you think it's a bit odd for a straight man to be turned off by pussy?
If you look through any of the anal debate threads, you'll find that the tendency to speak for the majority is far more prevalent on the pro-anal side.
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Posted - Nov 14 2007 : 2:39AM
Obviously the interest with anal sex has to do with the taboo, and/or an interest in (supposedly) 'degrading' acts. Ditto for facials. Dan has an interesting idea but I don't buy it, because it would assume that most men into anal sex with women have experienced anal penetration themselves, which as any number of responses regarding pegging would tell you is not the case. I find the obsession with anal boring myself but find the quote from Stagliano that Conquistador used hilarious (and was the first thing that popped into my head when I read the title of this thread). In case you didn't bother clicking on the link from Conquistador, the brilliant article on porn by Martin Amis that it is taken from is available for reading here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4153718,00.html Edited by - BlackSix on 11/14/2007 2:40:53 AM
Well, perhaps if you thought about it a little and actually READ some of the posts in this thread (and the countless others just like it) from people explaining their affection for anal sex, you wouldn't be so puzzled. But that's not really the issue, is it?
Maybe because it's a free country? People have their reasons. There are what? 300,000,000 people in America? You think everybody has the same reasons? If a dude likes butt sex, that's his thing. Again, why do you care? You say you don't care and in the next sentence you say you wonder why such a person bothers to watch straight porn. It's obvious that you do care. If you didn't care, you wouldn't keep on about it. I'm tired of hearing this "We don't need this in straight porn". As if the entire straight genre belongs to you simply because you identify yourself as straight. Do you have any idea how arrogant that is?
Do you really think logic has a damn thing to do with jacking off?
Edited by - randomprecision on 11/14/2007 4:14:34 AM
I love anal and pussy and blow jobs and rimming and kissing and pussy licking andandand
It is really something special when a girl gives you her asshole or rims you and I really appreciate it. Other than this it just fells and looks good. Steve Holmes
For me anal is a take it or leave it kind of thing. If I see a movie is only about anal I won't go out of my way to watch it, but if there's anal in a movie I'll enjoy it as long as there's a varied amount of alternatives. One thing I don't really get is the fascination with A2M
If you have ever had Hemorrhoids, you might have a little sympathy for the girls. That's no joke....I love to see it as well as do it, but its like chocolate cake... its nice on now and then but its not good to live on...
Maybe so but I bet you haven't heard it from me. I don't care if a chick does anal or not. If she doesn't, there are half a million others who do. If a chick wants to do vaginal only, that's fine by me. But back to the issue with straight versus gay porn. Gay men aren't gay because they like ass. They're gay because they like men. Do you think people who like to see blowjobs might as well watch gay porn? It's the same difference. Everybody has an asshole and everybody has a mouth. There's not a lot of difference between a male and a female oral cavity. The argument that anal is necessarily a "gay thing" just because there's an asshole involved is just that patently ridiculous. Now personally, I'm bi. But I'm emotionally and physically attracted to women. All the times I've ever done a dude was just for sex. And pussy sex is just fine. The problem is that it doesn't look as good as it feels. And personally, I'd rather eat a pussy than fuck it. It's extraordinarily difficult to find good pussy eating in porn. And when it happens, people whine (naturally) because they can see the dude's face and it makes them feel so insecure they can't get off. Anal looks almost as good as it feels (if you like it) and it doesn't have to be shot from some oddball angle or from 3 inches away. You can see everything that's going on and the performers can do it in a position that LOOKS pleasing. Pussy sex is good. Yes. But it isn't that pleasing to watch. And then there's the taboo thing. Anal isn't really taboo anymore but it still gives a lot of people that rush. That they're doing (or watching, rather) something "dirty". Believe it or not, there was a time not a long time ago when good anal was basically impossible to find at local rental outlets. So what did I do? I made do. I couldn't really complain because the internet was nothing then and there was no ADT. I couldn't even afford a computer. So. I just sat and watched. Bored really. I still managed to get my rocks off but I really wanted to see nice anal stuff. Now? What can I say? I'm sorry if you feel that good vaginal porn is being neglected. If I had my way, every taste and fetish would have it's own neat, fully-funded category. I wouldn't want anyone left feeling the way I felt then, not being able to find what I wanted to see. But my thing is anal, oral and pussy eating. What am I supposed to do? I can't change what turns me on. I buy what I like. As does everyone. It appears that a lot of people really like anal. I know everyone doesn't like it. Of course they don't. But the industry follows the money. It's a business. That's the worst thing about porn, really. The fact that they can't afford to do it right. They have to go with trying to stuff something to satisfy everyone into every flick. It sucks. That's why you see the back and forth between pussy and anal in the same scene. Anal lovers would probably be fine with all anal in all scenes and pussy lovers would be fine with all pussy in all scenes. But a lot of companies are too cheap to make seperate lines for anal lovers and pussy lovers. And some people like ass but not anal (for whatever reason). That would make two completely different categories. Pussy sex with a strong focus on asscheeks or anal sex with a strong focus on asscheeks. And then, some people really do want to see anal AND vaginal in the same scene so they'd have to create a category for that too. They just don't make that kind of money so everything gets tossed into the same video and if there's a really big market for something different that can exist outside of the mainstream, that market might get a category dedicated exclusively to it. I like legs. All "leg" porn is actually foot or stocking porn. Apparently, there aren't enough real leg fetishists to make it a viable category. I don't know why they insist on calling it leg porn, though. You think you've got it rough? Try looking it up. Go to Google and type in "Leg fetish". See if you can find one site on the internet dedicated exclusively to the worship of bare legs. I always thought it was a common male desire. I guess not. One final note. A lot of people turn to porn looking for what they can't get in reality. Or at least, what isn't easily obtained in reality. Anal sex can be a great fantasy if you enjoy it but the reality is very problematic for a number of reasons. A lot of women don't enjoy it at all and would just as soon never even be asked to do it. There's a lot of preparation that goes into just having sex if you're gonna do anal (unless you like it dirty). Some couples don't communicate that well or aren't comfortable being quite that open with one another. The fantasy of just pulling down her pants, bending her over and cramming her ass full of cock is still very powerful, however. It just isn't realistic. That's where porn comes in. If you can get pussy all day long, every day, why would you want to watch it in porn? That's not to say every perv is that lucky but it seems a lot turn to porn for the fantasies they can't really enjoy in reality. Edited by - randomprecision on 11/14/2007 1:11:01 PM
If you look through any of the anal debate threads, you'll find that the tendency to speak for the majority is far more prevalent on the pro-anal side.
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Response - That's a good point. I've been caught speaking for a majority about how people tend to speak for the majority! Let me apologize (I really am embarrased) and amend to say we should try to speak in terms of our personal preference - this attention would help curb some posters' tendency to denounce themes/stars/directors as though an objective study has been conducted. Good point, though, allow me to hopefully learn from my mistake.
I am one of those fans of anal movies and when I see a hot girl I'm always happy if she does anal sex. The only reason I watch porn is because I wanna see anal sex. Some pussy fucking is okay, but most of the sex should be anal. A girl who doesn't want to give up her rectum doesn't belong in gonzo movies. She should perform in couples movies. When the anal sex is really intense (or hard) you also know that the girls aren't faking.
Lela Star, Audrey Bitoni, and Paulina James are just three names off the top of my head who have given amazing performances and created a huge following in gonzo without doing anal. I believe there are at least two companies that go straight to the anal, and many many series that cater to all anal consumers (no pun intended). Why anyone would say that every gonzo/all-sex title of the thousands upon thousands released should be wall to wall anal is, again in my opinion, ABSURD. I am thankful that production companies have a firm grasp on what they are doing. Thank God this industry is run by the professionals!! Well, for the most part, anyway...
If a girl doesn't take it up the ass I won't buy her films - simple as that - that's my personal preference. There are so many gazillion films made every year that there should be enough material being made for both those who love and hate anal to take their pick. Personally I wish anal themed movies wouldn't waste time on vaginal sex at all - I don't HATE pussy fucking, but it's a bit tame and vanilla for me to shell out hard cash for.
Well, 1. it is taboo. Most married guys aren't getting it I would think (I ain't) 2. To me, it just makes it seem like the girl is really experiencing something. Some of the girls are built like you could park a car in their pussies and see out the side mirrors. No matter how veteran a girl you are, you've gotta be feeling it when one of those big studs is rocking out your sphincter. 3. errmmm...I don't know, but two enumerated points felt weak, so here is a third.
But do you really want to see anal sex featuring women who don't even like anal sex? Personally, if they're just doing it for the cash (OK, they're all doing it for the money but some actually like doing it as well), I'd just as soon they didn't.
Personally I would say yes. The fact that there can be some slight discomfort with a girl doing anal sex is actually a turn on for me - going back to what Guam just said 'it seems like the girl is really experiencing something'. With vaginal sex scenes that I have seen the moans and groans seem more fake - unless the male talent has a freakishly large cock then the sex will be comparitively easy for the girl - it's a natural fit after all. When a girl is straining to take it up the shitter you can normally SEE the effort, you know as a viewer she is feeling it - it doesn't mean I'm getting off on girls being in absolute agony, just that the sex is more intense when you can feel it's real. It may not be a caring, sharing, politically correct thing, but I want to see a performer taken to her extremes physically. Does that make any sense?
Makes sense to me. I feel the same way. And i also am one of those guys that if i see a hot chick i hope she does anal. Edited by - valo on 11/16/2007 12:58:49 AM
^ Interesting. Let's suppose the girl is so used to anal, she takes the biggest cocks with complete ease. Then what?...Should we tase her to elicit some "discomfort"? How about we get one guy to punch her in the nose as the other is fucking her in the ass....I mean, she HAS to feel some sort of pain, otherwise it's not porn. right!? I always wondered what kind of fucktards would buy titles like Donkey Punch. Now I know. There are some damaged people out there who work out their issues through porn instead of seeing a shrink. And many of them are under the illusion that their illness applies to everyone.
I'm a huge fan of anal so whenever I see a post that says "Oh so much anal, why isn't pussy good enough?" my standard response is: BECAUSE IT JUST LOOKS SO DAMN GOOD! I know it could be put more eloquently, but there is just something special about seeing a free and clear, wide and open, glistening wet pussy out there while the hinderhole is getting pounded. Reverse cowgirl position is best for this, but also doggie, especially if her ass it high in the air. And it doesn't even have to be a pounding. I'm not into seeing a girl in pain. It's fine if she is sliding up and down on the cock in her ass.
[/quote] The term is latent rapist, meaning would love to rape, but don't have the balls. [/quote] Riiiiiiiiight - so now fans of hard anal sex are 'damaged' wannabe rapists? Good grief - is it just me or has this forum got really tame recently?
People who are fans of something simply based on the amount of distress it inflicts on someone else, are, to put it politely, damaged. The actual terms I would like to use would most likely get me banned.
I don't wanna see those movies. I like it when girls enjoy anal sex. I've only said that I only watch anal movies. So when a woman doesn't want to do anal I won't watch her movies.
No. You said - "A girl who doesn't want to give up her rectum doesn't belong in gonzo movies." It's one thing to say you won't watch them. It's another to say they have no business doing gonzo if they won't do anal. That's just another way of saying they should be forced to do anal or forced out of gonzo.
There is a difference between gonzo porn and feature porn in my opinion. Most gonzo porn is also anal porn, so when a girl wants to perform in gonzo movies she has to do anal. If she doesn't want that, she should perform in feature and more couple orientated movies. In a gonzo movie I expect anal sex, otherwise it isn't gonzo in my opinion. Edited by - blueyonder on 11/16/2007 5:24:25 PM
So the whole gonzo genre should be dedicated to anal sex as far as you're concerned? Absurd. That's exactly why we have this problem. I'm a huge anal fan myself but some people like hardocre stuff without anal. Features and couples porn tends to be really soft. There is no reason why a girl should have to do anal in order to have a porn career.
Its something different and adds a new skill to a pornstars repitoire. Its something people do not do in a regular basis thus it seems like a taboo. We all know that Male on Female anal is mostly for the films and doesn't happen too much in real life. So it adds to the fantasy level of porn. If you can't do something.Next best thing to do is watch. If the dick fits(or in this case with lube fits?)