Being known does give them more money on the escort circuit, I think that can explain why they do away with the anonymity along with the multitudes of fans following their every moves, massaging their egos..
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| Colombian-Canuck Member 48 Posts 5/10 |  Posted - Jun 7 2010 : 2:37PMBeing known does give them more money on the escort circuit, I think that can explain why they do away with the anonymity along with the multitudes of fans following their every moves, massaging their egos.. Colombian-Canuck [Link] |
Savoy  All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Jun 8 2010 : 12:09AM Work has slowed down so much the girl has to love sex performing for reasons other than cash. [Link] |
| insinuation238 Member 11 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Jun 9 2010 : 1:42AM It seems like some people are really committed to the idea that the girls are into it, and other people are committed to the idea that it's coercive. I think the truth might be a little bit more complicated and interesting. I kind of like the idea of sort of one of these extreme porn directors operating under a kind of cowboy moral code. I mean, people have made mobsters sympathetic by relating to them on their own terms. I think these sort of outlaw characters can be really interesting, if you get a tough, funny voice for them. I'd love to come up with a sympathetic asshole character along the lines of Kenny Powers from "Eastbound and Down." I'm also really intrigued by how prevalent porn is, compared with how little people talk about it. I'm fascinated by how stridently people push for abstinence-only sex education, when I know that every single kid in America has looked at Internet videos of sex acts I didn't even know existed until around my third year of college. Chuck Palahniuk wrote a book called "Snuff" about porn, but I thought it was mostly a book about how bodies were icky. [Link] |
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| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Oct 2 2010 : 9:05PM XO Mindee [Link] |
| jack33139 Member 85 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Oct 2 2010 : 11:21PM I don't care if the OP is a writer or not, as this is an interesting discussion. I also don't believe the OP is simply an anti-porn troll. Asking why people would do porn is a common-sense question considering the fact that probably 99% of the people (especially women) who perform in porn either leave the business unhappy and/or face negative consequences out in the "real world," from limited job options to disapproving neighbors to mortified family members, friends, boyfriends, etc. Unlike perhaps any other business, doing porn is the ultimate "can't un-ring the bell" type of work -- do it once and it's out there forever, and the person carries the "porn star" label forever. Unfortunately for the performers, not more than 1% are able to bank enough money to retire from doing porn. Personally, whenever I see some 18-year-old newbie, I always assume some sort of issue at home -- daddy issues, drugs, controlling boyfriend, etc. (This is doubly true when I see a newbie doing a gangbang or DP in one of her first scenes. Anyone with any common sense who enters porn knows to start out vanilla and hold out as long as possible before doing anything extreme.) I'm sure there are some who don't fit this mold, but I bet it's accurate for 8 out of 10. I think it's much harder to discern motives for women who enter porn in their 20s, 30s, 40s. I think there's probably an inverse relationship between the woman's age and (a.) her need for money and/or (b.) her desire to rebel (against parents, ex-boyfriend, etc.). I've felt sorry for a lot of teen performers who have the deer-in-headlights look, but then I've seen non-teen performers like Tera Patrick who seem to have entered porn with open eyes and a more rational mind (business reasons, exhibitionism, etc.). Posted by Jack33139 ... Miami, Florida, U.S.A. [Link] |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 8:24AM For some, this is a 'one and done' experience. Once they've done it, they're off to another new experience. For others, they enjoy it and look for other opportunities to make more videos and I see them show up in videos from other producers. For some, they enjoy it enough and are attractive enough to move into the commercial portion of the business. Those that have, genuinely seem to be enjoying themselves. Commercial opportunities for couples are limited, and generally, they need to decide to work individually if they want much work. Many adult video performers entered the commercial side of porn through the amateur porn door. Amateur porn may not fit the storyline you're looking for, but it's part of the overall industry, and so hopefully it provides some insight into how and why some in the industry got there and why they stay. I'm sure there are some that got tricked into the industry or do things they don't want to do, but those that I work with seem to do it because they enjoy it, and they also get paid. That may not fit your paradigm – you seem convinced that because it's not logical for you, it's not reasonable, but it is fun for some. [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 8:28AM A girl is a stripper and perhaps making good money. She then notices that pornstars who strip make much money. They get to talking with a pornstar who strips and the pornstar tells them of all the positives that come from being a pornstar and ends up helping the stripper get into the porn biz. The girl shoots a few movies and her stripper rate much higher. The bigger her porn career gets the bigger her stripper career gets. A girl does some modelling and is making good money but would like to make more. She gets a few nude modelling gigs and the pay is better. She then finds out that doing sexy spreads with other girls pays even better so she does some of that. Doing this she comes in contact with porn girls and PENTHOUSE PETS who make more money and get side gigs besides doing photo shoots. The girl is already shooting "softcore" girl shoots so going hardcore G/G isn't that much of a stretch and the pay is better. If you do it for still shots what's the big deal doing it for a movie, plus the pay is better. The girl becomes a fan fav doing girl/girl porn and now the offers start pouring in to do Boy/girl. At some point the girl accepts the offer. A girl is escorting and making good money but realizes she could make more money escorting if she were a were a pornstar. Hell, she banging strange guys anyway, why not bang perhaps better looking guys on film, get a bit of celebrity going and charge more for the escorting thing. The girl is just as good looking as many of the girls doing porn and banging a guy for money is banging a guy for money...why not do porn? A girl started taking nude pics of herself posted them on a site. At some point she realizes she can film herself having sex with her boyfriend/husband and lots of guys will pay to see it. After doing this for awhile and seeing how much money is to be made. The girl decides to go to the next step and try and get into the porn business because she's already doing it on a smaller scale anyway and if she becomes a pornstar more people will find out about her and her site and the money will be even better or doing what she was already doing anyway. A girl has a friend who's doing porn while she works at a low paying and dull regular job. The porn friend seems to have lots of money and lots of time to have fun. The porngirl friend is always saying the girl is pretty enough to do porn and the money is much better than she making and it's not so bad. At first the friend says there's no way she could do it but over time as her job becomes even more mundane and the porngirl friend seems to making even more she slowly starts to consider it. The pornstar friend then takes her to a pornshoot and it doesn't seem so bad. Maybe a girl/girl scene wouldn't be so bad. The girl gets paid more for one day than she made all week at her other job and suddenly porn has converted another girl. These senarios probably cover about 80% of the girls who've gotten into porn. [Link] |
| strokerass Member 8 Posts 9/10 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 8:49AM All the talk about wealth, fame, or loving two cocks in their ass while being spoon fed manchowder is kayfabe. No woman with multiple degrees and the option to hold a professional designation is going to opt to pull a train in a California studio warehouse. [Link] |
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| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 1:59PM [Link] |
| strokerass Member 8 Posts 9/10 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 3:18PM I'm talking about a degree from a practical faculty, like health science, engineering or environmental studies. Education that will land you a profession as opposed to a job. A general bachelor's degree in arts/humanities is about as relevant in the real world as it would be in the porn industry. [Link] |
| ControlFreak Member At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 3:56PM [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Oct 3 2010 : 4:38PM XO Mindee [Link] |
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| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Oct 4 2010 : 11:10AM Example, "guys that wear wifebeaters, baseball caps backwards, and dogtags are douchebags!" (it's true, btw) Guy wearing a wifebeater, baseball cap backwards, and dogtags: "That's true, but I wear my dogtags not because I'm a douchebag like other douchebags, but I want everyone to think that I was in the miliary so I can make up stories about being in the shit!" [Link] |
| jackyjoy Member Adult film actress and reality tv addict :) 30 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Oct 5 2010 : 12:43AM Adult Film Actress Jacky Joy xoxo [Link] |
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| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Oct 6 2010 : 4:23PM Actually, I expected better of them than I got. [Link] |
| Irish Caraway Member I like to fist girls. 274 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Oct 7 2010 : 2:41PM [Link] |
| screwcap Deactivated User I'm walkin' here........ 1032 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Oct 7 2010 : 7:57PM if you can manage your finances effectively + if you can avoid getting involved in relationships + if you can do all of the above, you have a good shot at a career that may last perhaps a decade. There are exceptions, but by and large Porn actress come and go like the "A" train. Miss one?, another comes right along. It's no different in Hollywood, ton's of 1 hit wonders there. Cheers and good luck. [Link] |
| insinuation238 Member 11 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Oct 30 2010 : 6:53PM I checked back here, because I was thinking about this idea again after the Charlie Sheen incident. The woman involved insisted that she was not a hooker, but a porn star. But the story now seems to be that Sheen ordered her from an escort agency while dining in a private room at Daniel (Boloud) in NYC (the tasting menu there is $600 a plate). Her price for the evening was $12000, though I see nothing about her that's much more desirable than $1000 an-hour Ashley Dupre. There's definitely something interesting about the people who would get involved in this. I'm still not sure how I would make the story about a porn-star into something I'd be able to find an original take on, especially at novel length. Obviously, there's a lot of writing about sex, from literary stuff down to "Penthouse Forum." I think the mainstreaming of porn and the impact of that over the last few years on how people relate to each other is one of the few meta-narratives about sex that isn't totally mined-out. There's also an interesting story about porn as a microcosm for the tumult of the US economy in the aughts. The porn industry clearly expanded due to the Internet. Customers who might have been interested in the product but wouldn't go to a porn store were suddenly accessible. Porn has been an early killer-app for various widely used technologies; the VCR, the DVD, high-speed internet, secure online transactions, digital video cameras, streaming online video. But then the market seems to have saturated, and piracy seems to have eaten porn the same way it ate music (and might eat books). Like real-estate or finance or even mainstream entertainment, porn is an industry that was flush with excess and might be facing a new austerity. How that might effect people on a personal level is interesting too. A lot of people mention that strippers or hookers can raise their income by doing a couple of porn scenes and calling themselves porn stars. But now that there is so much porn, pretty much any stripper or hooker who wants to can probably be a "porn star." Has that been diluted? Is there any real celebrity to be achieved as a porn-star anymore, now that there are no more porn-theaters? Do all of these girls think they will be Sasha Grey or Jenna Jameson? Are lots of these girls, in fact, partying with celebrities like Charlie Sheen? There's maybe an interesting story about a porn star who was buying Louis Vuitton and Cadillacs in 2006-07, and now she's older and in less-demand, and there's less money around generally. What happens to her could be worth exploring. There's also a possible story about somebody who owned one of these internet companies that was flush in cash and hot girls a few years ago, and now they're shooting in a warehouse or an office park and they're barely solvent. The idea of people shooting porn in foreclosed dream-mansions in Florida is a funny metaphor for the whole contemporary era. [Link] |
| sonofbones Member Middle East Living in the Carolinas 49 Posts 7/10 | Posted - Oct 30 2010 : 7:37PM [Link] |
| screwcap Deactivated User I'm walkin' here........ 1032 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Oct 30 2010 : 7:48PM "It is wat it is" a wise man sed, and we are beneficiaries. this thread "why would anyone do porn?" would yield similar responses if it were titled "why would anyone want to drive a bus." "why would anyone do drugs" "why would anyone do that" et al. human nature, power of choice, nothing better available, and of course I love to fuck on camera. [Link] |
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| zophos Senior Member 1703 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 12:19AM Maybe it's just me, but I kind of feel sorry for one starlet, who writes of having a crush on someone who works out at the same gym; the star is irrelevant. The point is, what if she really likes this guy and he finds out she has been in porn for several years and holds that against her. That's the thing, Porn stars need to keep in mind. I'm sure there are plenty who are level headed, mature and have thought things through about what will happen when folks they care about learn of their career, or past career, and they most certainly will. To be clear, I'm not judging at all; it's just that some potential partners probably wouldn't be able to handle or accept a partner that had a celluloid, sexual past...especially those who have filmed harder edged things like gang bangs etc. Most women, or men, aren't mature enough to think of the long term impact and realize that their scenes are going to always be around and there is nothing they can do to make them go away. All, I'm saying, is anyone considering this career should think those things thru, that's all. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Jan 29 2012 : 12:40AM [Link] |
| ControlFreak Member At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09 | Posted - Jan 31 2012 : 1:53PM [Link] |
| Drebin Member 686 Posts 3/09 | Posted - Feb 1 2012 : 9:22AM very true... women only really like doing hardcore stuff like anal/dp/gangbangs if they are get compensated for it! [Link] |
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