If you have been with enough women give me some feedback. Ratios would be also be helpful. (ex. 1 out of 10)
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Posted - Jun 9 2012 : 8:46AM
hard to answer since it all depends on what YOU prefer a blow-job to be...actually, in my world, most of the porn queens we see on video rarely give good head...yet its all a matter of preference...in my experiences, I have had only 2 that would 'curl my toes' as the expression goes...
I agree that it is about preference, since I don't like to watch in porn the "quacking" sloppy "throat fucking" type of thing. I think of the women who even do give BJ's (which in and of itself is rare) maybe 50% or less know what they are doing. That being said, those that are willing, seem to give it the "old college try" and I applaud them.
Speak up. A lot of guys do not give much feedback about how they like it. You don't have to be an instruction manual, and you don't have to "correct" anybody. But if you are silent, you will get a different bj than you get if you say, "Ah yeah, real slow...," or, "Oh, mmmmm, you know I love it when you do that," or whatever. If she's on your balls and you like it, tell her so, and if you like it better somewhere else, wait 'til she goes there and tell her you like it, or say something like, "Ooooooh, you know what I'd love right now..." (this better sound relaxed and blissful, not like a command). Don't talk through the whole thing, but a few moans and gurgles will help. Notice that there are no negatives, no implying that she's not doing it right. Different guys like/don't like their ass licked or whatever, so she's not responsible for that. Her last boyfriend may have liked it exactly the way she's doing it.
I've had sex with somewhere between 20 and 30 women. 10% of really bad blowjobs (feeling the teeth quickly puts me in a state of panick :-)) 80% of ok to good blowjobs. 10% of spectacular blowjobs. One of my favorite times involved lots of saliva, warm hands and perfect sync between hand and mouth. Felt like she was deepthroating me, but she was actually barely sucking it at all. One other time, the blowjob was good: hot, tight sucking pressure. When I came in her mouth, she gave me a dirty look as she let the cum slowly out of her mouth and onto my dick. It turned me on so much, I asked her to continue, and that's how I broke my record of cumming 4 times in a row. I don't think that'll ever happen again, it was really a fantastic experience. What I like: good lubrication, sucking pressure, slow and warm, sucking noises, good grip. What I don't like: anything that involves licking on the balls or under, tongue tickling... Edited by - Jambavant on 6/10/2012 5:44:53 PM
Yeah that's the whole point of talking dirty IMO. To hint to your partner what you like and how you like it. But if you sound too controlling some women are going to be annoyed (unless they're very submissive in bed). Once you've been fucking someone for a couple of months though, it would be more acceptable to give direction to improve things. But some people (male and female) are just naturally poor at oral sex and will always suck at it (pun intended).
I love all this "Most women this, Most women that" crap around here. Seriously guys, we WOMEN are trying to tell you. We are all different. I know LOTS of women that are into oral and even cock worship. Those of you who are bitching need to stop catagorizing us into groups and look at why we may not be sucking YOUR dicks. My number one bitch is hygiene. Wash your balls fellas! Nobody likes sucking smelly cock.
Wow, I must be incredibly lucky then, because I haven't taken a woman to bed yet that didn't. They haven't even waited to get into bed, come to think of it.
I wanted to quote Kimi, but also this one from Algaliarept, so I got ya both in one fell swoop! We need to take geographical locations into consideration here, I grew up in a small town, and as much as I want to disagree with Algaliearept, I can't totally. Sometimes in a small town word gets around, does she suck cock? Does she spit? Does she swallow? And OH MAN, if a girl swallows she is the girl that every guy wants to get a BJ from but doesn't want to be with. Fairly sad. I can only speak for myself when it comes to getting a BJ, I like the loss of control, being submissive and at her will, I personally enjoy deep a good deep cocksucking, ball licking, a finger in the ass, but hey, if she wants to blow my mind with her skills, I let her.
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine earlier and it's like this..... Many women are still taught that there should be some kind of shame associated with oral sex. We (as Breeze mentioned) are on the flip side of word getting around. We don't want bad reputations and when we are young a lot of us get the idea that sex acts such as anal sex or oral sex make you a slut. Much like how guys are taught letting someone play with their ass makes them gay. So if word gets around that we enjoy anal or oral or anything else considered "dirty" our young lives are basically ruined. Trust me on this. I was "that girl" in high school that pissed off the wrong senior and from then on any nasty rumor you could possibly think up was said about me. As many of us become adults we get into relationships that might let us explore a little more and sometimes that shame we feel about doing something seen as wrong or dirty goes away. IF WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT TAKE THE TIME TO HELP US THROUGH THAT. The only time I really see this as a ligitimate problem is when a person has experienced some form of sexual abuse. That's a whole other can of worms. I'll give my story as an example...... I met a guy named Danny when I was 19. Danny was 21 and much more sexually advanced than I was at the time. We had pretty good sex or at least as good as it could be for two people so young. Danny brought up oral and anal sex and of course I balked. BUT I wasn't totally turned off by the idea and he knew this. He asked me why I wouldn't and basically it came down to not wanting him to think of me as a whore or slut if I did these things with him. Like a "will you still love me tomorrow" kinda thing. That's what I have found in my experiences and talks with my girlfriends. We might like it when you call us sluts in bed because you're talking dirty. We might even get off on being degraded a little (although that's not for me personally). BUT WE DO NOT like the feeling of not having our partner's absolute respect when it's all said and done. BECAUSE THAT MAKES US FEEL ASHAMED AND DIRTY. I have also discovered (especially from working in a sex shop) that most of the time when people (men and women both) say,"Eeeww, I'm not doing that!" they are usually thinking about it in a more favorable light than they want to let on. In other words a woman who claims she will never suck dick, should never say never because she's probably fantasizing about how awesome it would be to just bring a guy to his knees with her porn star quality oral skills that she hasn't learned yet. AND if she has this guy teach and convince her that nothing they do as CONSENTING ADULTS could ever possibly be dirty or shameful, more than likely she'll go down. Then she'll get more and more daring and rock your fucking world! This is what Danny did with me. He convinced me without manipulating me, that nothing we did as lovers could ever possibly be shameful. Once I realized that we moved on. He never pushed it on me and he made it really good for me by taking his time with me. He gently led me to it and made me feel like a sex Goddess while doing so. Sure, I made some mistakes. He corrected them. And I mean correcting by giving me lots of praise and "suggestions" for improvement rather than telling me how bad I fucked up. So, even though the relationship ended badly,I still think of him fondly and the male gender can thank Danny for making me the cock worshipping, anal fuck junkie that I am today.
Indeed. Don't misread what you think is sexual inhibition. Sometimes it's just not wanting to get a reputation. Sometimes it's just not wanting to do it wrong. If one guy scolds you for touching his balls, the next guy thinks you are inhibited because you don't suck his balls. You don't know that's what he's thinking, because he doesn't say anything. He never knows if it's true, because he never says anything. There are guys who are trying to tell you telepathically that they want a finger up the ass, but that will not work if the last guy freaked when your finger strayed somewhat near that area. A woman may play it safe by doing something fairly boring. Women aren't mind readers. They aren't born sexually experienced. They can interpret heavy breathing, stomach tightening, moaning, and things like that, but you will not get what you want unless you let her know what that is.
^ Exactly. I guess I should have said when we are young it has a lot to do with reputation. But yeah even as women we don't like to feel like we're doing it wrong.
I'm completely all over that feedback thing. I have known a LOT (seriously lots and lots and lots and lots) of guys that just lay or sit there like they're dead when they get a blow job. I don't know if they're afraid to move, or if they've quit breathing, or if they hate it and wish I'd stop, or love and wish I'd never stop... A grunt, a groan, a slight hip thrust... ANYTHING would help. Comments about what you would like, or like that I am doing, that would be amazing.
I used to "play dead" because I was so afraid that if I moved at the wrong moment, the girl would get choked, get angry and leave. :-) So I was doing my best not to move an inch. That is until a girl told me how weird that was.
I cant add more to this thread, as Ive been married for a long time, other than my wife love sucking my cock - especially when she's 'in the groove', when she even tries her best to 'deep throat' me......but fella's , please listen to what gals like SSG have to say, you have more to learn from what she and other gals have to say than I could ever impart............. Seriously........
Oh, good. It's not just me. I'm not blaming the guy--guys aren't born sexually experienced either. So it's just a helpful suggestion. There are, by the way, guys who have a knack--they are confident, relaxed, easygoing and adventurous in almost everything they do. Those guys have a way of wordlessly conveying that they are up for anything--a spur of the moment rock climbing trip, scuba diving classes, whatever. Try anything. It might be fun. After a while, a woman learns how to test the 'other' guys without freaking them out, to learn their boundaries. That's the reason for trailing your finger around his taint, maybe wandering a little closer to his anus... and then guessing whether the guy tensing up a little is apprehension (dread), or anticipation (joy). If you still can't guess, you can spit on the finger (make a display of it) and wander back down there. But it's a whole lot easier if the guy will just say or do something.
It is rare in Michigan. Of course if it isn't your spouse blowing you it is a serious felony here. I hear in Ohio lots of women under age 40 stand on the sidewalks, tits out and begging to blow some rich dude that can support them for the rest of their lives.
Shows what dumbasses in michigan know about Ohio women.......and their own state laws. On June 26, 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision in Lawrence v. Texas struck down the Texas same-sex sodomy law, ruling that this private sexual conduct is protected by the liberty rights implicit in the due process clause of the United States Constitution. This decision invalidated ALL state sodomy laws insofar as they applied to noncommercial conduct in private between consenting civilians and reversed the Court's 1986 ruling in Bowers v. Hardwick that upheld Georgia's sodomy law. In otherwords, it hasn't been illegal to blow someone in Michigan since 2003.
Many of us have had bad experiences giving feedback when it comes to blow jobs. I dunno if all guys like deep bj's or not, but a hand on the shaft stroking it while you suck on the top seems to be ok. It is pretty much the same thing as a deep throat is your hand is lubed enough with spit. Bad feedback I have gotten is like this..."If you don't like the way I suck your cock then I won't suck it."
Aah but Michigan still has a fornication law which was not struck down. Oral sex is considered fornication if the people involved aren't legally married to each other. Fornication is sex outside of a legally sanctioned marriage. My Ohio comment was a joke based upon that state not having a law against fornication. Edited by - mharris127 on 6/13/2012 1:04:13 PM
mharris...it was struck down by the US Supreme Court. It may still be on the books but it's not enforceable. Read and learn. "Gross Indecency" Algaliarept, oral sex was part of Michgans sodomy laws.
^ Read. I still don't see anything about fornication laws being struck down by the Supremes. Gross indecency is not the same as fornication. Oral sex is still sex, therefore if the couple aren't married it is still fornication. If it has somehow been struck down (I haven't seen any evidence of that) you better tell the judiciary and prosecutors in Michigan because people are convicted of it quite often to this day.
We were talking about oral sex. You are talking about fucking another man's wife. Lawrence & Garner v Texas sets precedence and it already struck down laws against sodomy and oral sex. When Michigan's adultry law goes up against the Supreme Court (and you can bet the ACLU will have something to do with it)it will be struck down as well. Scalia dessented on the Texas case and even he said it would. So basically if an unmarried woman is giving a blow job to an unmarried man, there isn't shit the state can do about it. The "married" part is what changes things and that hasn't even been used since 1971 to prosecute anyone. However, right now the adultry law IS being used to prosecute criminals that the state has no other evidence against and for descrimination against couples and families that co-habitate. It is not something that is enforced unless someone is trying to make a case for something else.Which is the state appeals court upheld as CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONDUCT. In other words (as in the appealed case)a man cannot give drugs to a cocktail waitress in exchange for sex even if the sex is consentual because she's also his girlfriend. The wording is tricky but for the most part it's something used as a scare tactic. Otherwise anyone that goes for a divorce on the grounds of adultry can have their spouse prosecuted for it. And I'll ask in this forum just as I asked in that other topic......what are YOU as a Michigan citizen going to do about it?
I already wrote my state Senator and Representative regarding this issue. Short of actually running for office I don't know that I can do a whole lot by myself (too many skeletons in my closet for me to actually win). For the time being I will just have to go to Ohio to get off. I will admit that I don't have the balls to openly fuck in Michigan in order to fight the law in court. BTW that rumor that the law hasn't been used since 1971 is wrong. My county was actively enforcing this law until the late 90's and some counties still enforce it. Our current AG may not enforce it himself if the case comes to him for some reason since he was caught fucking his secretary but county prosecutors still do. The AG wasn't prosecuted himself because his concubine would not confirm that they fucked each other in Michigan and the private-eye pictures weren't detailed enough to prove that they did their business here.
How does anyone stay silent when getting a blow job. A girl giving me a BJ is definitely going to elicit some vocal responses and depending on how good it is make me into a babbling mess. I just can't help it haha.
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Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 4:02PM
I've had some amazing BJS and some pretty pathetic and one that drew blood. Even among prostitutes and porn stars the skill level varies greatly. One of the very best BJs I have had was from a pro, but the VERY BEST I've had is from my current girlfriend. She's UNREAL!!! Not only does she do it exactly how I like it, she wants to hear me talk about it after words and she INSISTS on giving me head. The secret i have with this woman is COMMUNICATION!!! As I've grown older I'm more willing to ask for what I want and state how I want it. I make damn sure to reciprocate so that we BOTH have an amazing experience. The only hard and fast rule I have is a 3 for 1 rule. At a minimum I must give her three O's to every one of mine. Yes, I love pleasing her, but I'll admit, it's an ego thing too and she's so damn hot and horny I want to make sure that I ruin her for anyone that might get it in their head to hit on her.