Bellend this ain't the place but the simple fact is that HIV HAS NOT been isolated in a way that is direct and fully verified based on unique proteins. Reverse Transcriptase and molecular cloning does does not count. The so called virus under the microscope is simply inferred based on incomplete protein markers. All viruses have this unverified problem.
I'll just reiterate my earlier comment: Don't engage in an HIV/AIDS debate with Maxxx. For one reason, you'll never convince him. For another, in the past it has led to threads being locked. So no good will come of it.
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Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 3:05AM
^^Okno To bluntly answer your Q, if there is no directly verified virus via purification and isolation then there can be no test for said virus. The Gallo test(as I like to call it) is basically an unspecific sensitivity test. Now, that's not to say that it's a meaningless test. If you are a member of risk group or have underlying oxidative stress via various toxicities within your system(which Charlie most certainly has) then the Gallo test can be a decent predictor of illness occurring or to come. My issue is that Charlie and Bree are not equal in this regard. Bree is not engaging in risk behavior(that we know of). She's a wholefoods shopper for goodness sake. She and others like her should not have this kind of fear implanted within from faulty science. The following video just on the tests itself does a good job showing the issues of the testing methodology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-jpq0VylQ4 Heit I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or get into a comment war. I do make my views known especially seeing that the specter of HIV has had such a negative hold on porn and modern sexuality as a whole.
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Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 4:40AM
Enough of the point if HIV exists or not. If you want to discuss that, start a thread elsewhere. This is Bree's thread. Comments about this from now on will be deleted. This is everyone's warning
Uncle Gibby it wasn't hard to find the info on Bree doing escort work. First google search was a hit. Try looking at the following website: Honeycompanion.net Edited by - flash on 11/19/2015 11:37:41 PM
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 7:53PM
we were asked not to go in this way. Bree's thread may get locked. Discussion of Bree and this problem would be ok imo, but the area of the disease's existence should be dropped maybe? Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better Edited by - FlacFan on 11/19/2015 7:54:29 PM
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bigdinca469 Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 8:48PM
MOD: Stop being an asshole and read the forum etiquette before posting again! Edited by - flash on 11/19/2015 11:35:32 PM
From what I understand Sheen got HIV long after he broke up with Bree Olson, so why is she going on all of these shows saying that Charlie never told her about his HIV and thing like that?
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hashphish Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 19 2015 : 11:29PM
Let me get a word in before this thread gets locked, I hope everything turns out well for Bree in life.
I apologize for any " bad " things I said. However, the anti-Bree person said things that were untrue. I value this forum but, if certain people feel the need to " rip " Bree , I feel the need to respond… she's NOT an " escort "!!!
Wait a tick… I'm the " asshole " because I was on the side of someone, wrongly labeled??? Great… innuendo rules here!!! Thanks for the " heads up ".
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 12:38AM
MOD: Calling the person you are arguing with stupid and ignorant IS a violation of the forum etiquette you have been pointed to several times now. You may consider this the last time I will tell you. Edited by - flash on 11/20/2015 8:43:18 AM
Uncle Gibby and bigdinca469: We will go over this one last time, you two were engaged in a fight where you were calling each other names. Uncle Gibby, your first post that was removed indicated that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll. The ending posts that were taken down were straight insults at each other, the nicest of which was douche bag. That is what you can't do. It has nothing to do with the point that either one of you was arguing. I would tell you to read the forum etiquette again so you will understand, but after all the times I put that into the responses and the fact that neither of you have means it would be fruitless. Here is the relevant clause.
So has Gloria Allred hired Bree yet? I'm aware that she broke up with him before he got HIV. Allred is bound to find someone Sheen slept with after his diagnosis. Yes, Sheen has acted like a pig but can we focus on news about Bree's porn career?
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klies Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 10:09AM
....or maybe an opportunity to make some money I am no lawyer but I believe he will have to pay a lot of money to all the girls he had sex with during that period. Edited by - klies on 11/20/2015 10:12:17 AM
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 12:16PM
^^ Sadly it probably now is a career, However. were she pondering a comeback, I'd be interested in peoples opinion on these topics. Question: Even if Bree has and continues to test clean, In everyone's opinion If she chose to make a comeback: 1} Would she get booked or would all this drama and scrutiny make her too hot politically to hire? 2} Would talent want to work with her I am stumped on either one actually 1} Were she to make a comeback had this not happened, she would be in incredible demand right out of the gate. IMO, the blow out from this story would make her too hot to hire even if the profit was really high, studios have a Hard call here. And even though she has tested clean, there would still be that little bit of lingering in performers minds, and imo it would affect their performance and truly relaxing and getting into the scene, further complicating things for the studios. As for question 2, no clue on my end Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 5:47PM
I think we can answer these questions by looking at Sheena Shaw. She did not get booked and her return to porn has gone nowhere other than a few bits on her own website. The same would likely happen to Bree I know the particulars are a bit different because Bree can claim she didn't know, and Sheena really can't make that claim with any credibility. However, people will just not be comfortable working with someone who is willing to bareback rich drug users who are having massive amounts of untested promiscuous sex. Yeah, I know lots of girls and guys do this, she is however publicly known to do it, and that makes her a target. As for "testing clean"; there will always be this voice in people's heads who wonder if she is testing "clean" due to the HIV drugs making that possible just like with Charlie. These will be on the minds of her future partners. I think the more interesting question is how will this affect Bree's escorting career. Will men flee, or will this risk factor or excitement kick in and she will get more phone calls? I tend to think the latter and would love to hear people's opinions. A lot of men are turned on by this risk factor and excitement level. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 11/20/2015 5:50:26 PM Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 11/20/2015 5:52:52 PM
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 5:59PM
^ Yes but isn't Sheena positive? My scenario was Bree remaining negative. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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DiamondJackman Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 7:25PM
^Woa, woa, woa! Sheena Shaw has HIV?
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FlacFan Deactivated User
10088 Posts 8/15
Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:16PM
^ I don't know, she had massive unprotected sex with John Stagliano and ended up pregnant with his kid. I can't find conclusive statements either way and have been looking. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better Edited by - FlacFan on 11/20/2015 8:17:18 PM
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
1102 Posts 2/15
Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:18PM
Now now, there is nothing, absolutely zero, to even make a rumor that Sheena has HIV. comon now.... My comparison was between two people who are both HIV negative, but had bareback sex in the past with an HIV positive man. That is the extent of my comparison as to give an idea of Bree's opportunities to be booked for porn scenes in the future. You really had no reason to say that. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 11/20/2015 8:19:06 PM
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 8:49PM
I'd have to agree, she most likely now is blacklisted as is anyone else even remotely associated with Mr Sheen. The male Typhoid Mary has landed! Beautiful Woman. Hope she stays well: Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
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hashphish Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 9:56PM
If she is blacklisted then what about those pornstars that were in a vid with him partying at his house? I could have sworn I saw Dillion Harper there dancing around. I mean who knows if they fucked him or not.
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FlacFan Deactivated User
10088 Posts 8/15
Posted - Nov 20 2015 : 10:15PM
^ I hadn't seen that. Nice can of worms Chuckles opened. Hmmm, that is an exceptional question. Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
My favorite at that time Melanie Rios also banged him. She also retired several years ago but I guess this end any potential of her ever making a comeback.
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DiamondJackman Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 10:18AM
Did she not know beforehand that he was HIV-positive?
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DiamondJackman Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 10:20AM
Someone post a list of all the known pornstars he screwed please.
Off topic post removed. Edited by - flash on 11/21/2015 7:39:30 PM
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 21 2015 : 7:34PM
I get the feeling that the Overseerers may lock this if we don't knock it off. Did anyone else really like the Scooby Doo parody? imo it is one of the best ones done. Bobbi Starr as Velma was a riot Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better
^ I am one who loves women who keep their bush so I have to agree with you. [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 11/22/2015 1:01:04 AM
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DiamondJackman Deactivated User
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^^ Charlie Sheen Has HIV Thread ^ I didn't think so and just verified at IAFD, No DP For Bree. And More Bree: Silicone Is Evil, Razors Aren't Much Better