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the unknown pervert
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Posted - Oct 26 2009 : 6:53PM
A couple of days ago I updated to the newest version of AVG (the paid version). Since then I absolutely can not make a post with Firefox. I hang in cyberlimbo waiting to get back to site after hitting Enter Post. I will neither get back to the site or time out instead the little progress cursor just sits and spins for 15 minutes or whenever I say fuck it and close down Firefox. I had been getting around this using Chrome but now it is doing the same thing. I'm using IE now if anyone can read this then at least it is working for now. I'm sure the update has to have something to do with it because this started my first session on Firefox after the update was through. It is only happening on this site though. (I am having problems on another site I'm a member of with getting a bunch of gobbleygook every time I use the quote function there but it is letting me post.)
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 26 2009 : 11:12PM
I'm just whistling in the dark, but the update may have changed firewall settings or privacy controls, which may in turn be affecting your access to the site. Maybe check the settings.
Also, have you tried logging out and then back in to ADT?
Have you uninstalled AVG to see whether you can access the site without it running?
If all else fails, cal AVG tech support. You've got a paid version, so this should be their problem.
Best of luck!
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Oct 27 2009 : 5:59PM
I recently updated to paid AVG 9.0.697, and everything seems to be just fine.
HOWEVER, when I try to scan with the AVG Anti-Rootkit module, it crashes my computer immediately with the Blue-Screen-of-Death. The regular scan works fine.
The BSOD problem happens on both computers I updated AVG on when I attempt to run the AVG Anti-Rootkit scan.
So, I'm going to say AVG 9.xx.xx currently has some issues (which seem to be bi-partisan, too)
BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Oct 27 2009 : 6:05PM
TUP, did you resolve your browsing/AV issues yet using Bob's suggestions?
Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 10/27/2009 6:06:09 PM
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Oct 28 2009 : 9:35AM
No, I haven't. I haven't had a good enough night of sleep to deal with calling a tech support number right now and I'm too tired to deal with uninstalling it for now. I'll probably play around with it Sunday or Monday. I have bigger potential disasters to deal with this week. (my nephew's wedding on Halloween)
 
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Nov 1 2009 : 11:40AM
Update:
Firefox was working better here for the last couple of days until today when it hung up for me when I tried to post in the Stacy Valentine thread in Star Crossed. I switched to Chrome and made that post but now Chrome just hung up on me on this post.(Chrome worked the second time I tried it here.)
And I was right about the wedding. Weirdest damn wedding I've ever been to and that includes one where the tornado sirens went off during the reception.
Edited by - the unknown pervert on 11/1/2009 11:41:40 AM
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Posted - Nov 2 2009 : 12:19AM
Try disabling LinkScanner in AVG.
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Nov 3 2009 : 7:58AM
I'll try that when I'm done screwing around on the net today. I hate shutting down and restarting my browser in the middle of things.
The latest oddity now is when I use IE I have no problem making posts but when I make one it changes the font on the page of the thread I was on when I posted.
Oops that was the latest as of five minutes ago. Now the latest is that when I go to edit my profile on IE I get a Service Unavailable screen though I can still navigate the rest of the forum. When I use Firefox I get the Service Unavailable message just trying to log on to the forum.

Edited by - the unknown pervert on 11/3/2009 8:07:40 AM

BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Nov 3 2009 : 7:44PM
TUP,
Some thoughts
1). Have you tried reinstalling FF (either uninstalling or reinstalling FF ontop of existing installation)? This has helped me sometimes when I've had weird browser specific problems in the past.
2). Just for shits and giggles, have you tried Safari?
3). Have you tried repairing/cleaning your registry with one of those all-in-one utilities like a cleaner (CCleaner) - it's free (I have vetted both)?
4). Not sure of your technical experience/level, but when I have a problem where I end up spending a lot of time, I always have 'wipe - fresh reinstall Windows' in back of my mind, if conducive.
Good luck.
Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 11/8/2009 4:38:04 PM
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Nov 4 2009 : 9:15AM
Tried it, nothing changed.
New problem-I have changed my location and clicked on the update box and my location has not changed under my avatar. It is changed in the profile but my old location is still showing in the forum.
Edited by - the unknown pervert on 11/4/2009 9:22:00 AM
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Posted - Nov 4 2009 : 9:26AM
Oh, well. I'm running 8.5, and disabling LinkScanner definitely reduced the amount of problems I was having. I guess AVG 'fixed' that with 9.
Time to move on to a different anti-virus client, maybe?
in flagrante delicto
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Posted - Nov 8 2009 : 11:50PM
AVG has become a bloated piece of crap, on the road to Norton-hood. Get rid of it and use Avira AntiVir instead. The free version is free.
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Posted - Nov 9 2009 : 7:30PM
Has anyone had a problem with the free version of AVG 9.0? They keep telling me that it's time to upgrade, but this thread has prevented me from doing so up til now.
in flagrante delicto
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Posted - Nov 9 2009 : 9:32PM
Google antivirus comparison, read the reports, then come to realize that you should uninstall AVG's free s/w and instead install Avira's free s/w. I did and I am quite pleased. I don't know whether AVG had a great improvement with the latest release. I wouldn't bet on it.
Norton practically disabled my weak PC. AVG made it drag. Avira's not bad. Avira's also a lot better at catching malware than the others.
Robert
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 2:59PM
I downloaded (from Tucows) the free version of Avira. Luckily I installed in on my B machine (after removing AVG 8).
First I had to register (on-line). Then as soon as it installed, it went nuts telling me I had some Malware in my system 32 directory.
No matter what I tried (delete it, ignore it, etc.) it kept finding dll files and telling me they were Trojan Horses and to do something. At one point I think I had 10 versions of that module active and growing to the point that my machine couldn't do anything else.
I shut down and rebooted only to have it start up again, over and over.
Finally came up in Safe Mode and tried System Restore, which failed because AVG 8 was no longer available.
So I rebooted again, came up in Safe Mode, ignored System Restore and went to Remove Programs and got rid of it. Whew!
I guess that's it for me and Avira.
 
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 3:54PM
^ It may/may not apply to you/your download, but there have been issues with Avira.
Robert
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 4:57PM
^I don't think that was the case for me.
As I mentioned -
1. Downloaded from Tucows, that I went to directly.
2. Registration was the first part of the install NOT the download.
I just looked at the link you provided and it eventually leads you to a CNet download. That download file has the same name (avira_antivir_personal_en .exe) and is the same size (32 Gb) as the one I downloaded from Tucows.
Then, one never knows.
If I had to guess, I would blame it on a compatibility issue with my specific O/S (Windows XP -Professional) and this particular version of Avira.
Not something that I have the expertise to resolve. I consider myself lucky to have recovered. I installed AVG 8 again and System Restore is happy.
BTW, AVG doesn't require that you even be on-line to install version 8. Never-the-less I dread having to go to Version 9.
I've been using AVG free from the get go and really liked it until Version 8.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 5:33PM
So far for me, AVG paid 9.x is a waste of time (v 8.5.x was fine).
I'm not a happy camper!
In addition to the Anti-Rootkit issue, I have now also disabled LinkScanner.
I need to pay money for this?
I have always liked dividing my anti-virus/anti-malware needs between AVG and CounterSpy (plus a few additional free things that I run when I choose).
Right now, I'm planning to not renew AVG, and upgrade my CounterSpy to Vipre (same people), which adds in anti-virus to their package.
Sunbelt Software has always been first-rate, and never screwed me up yet :)
Robert
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 6:03PM
^
I've used Kerio Personal Firewall for years, long before Sunbelt bought them out. It's been a great (free) firewall.
Between AVG (free) and Kerio (free) I can count on one hand all the Malware I've had occasion to remove from my systems going back over 17 years of on-line (dial-up) usage.
in flagrante delicto
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Posted - Nov 10 2009 : 10:50PM
Robert, I uninstalled AVG and installed Avira Antivir from CNET.com, which was linked from Avira's site. The current version there is 9.0.0.407. The version on tucows is 9.0.0.386. I don't know if that makes any difference, since it should update before does anything. I have no idea what caused the problem you saw. I've installed Antivir (free version) on three PCs (all running XP) with no problem, each of which was running AVG before the Antivir installation.
It updates every day, so I presumably have the most recent version, which is 9.0.3.7.
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 2:33PM
I don't know if there was an update automatically installed somewhere or what but Firefox is working much better here now. It still runs a little slow occasionally but it's not going into a holding pattern like it was a couple of weeks ago.
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Posted - Nov 16 2009 : 9:53PM
^
Now my Firefox is acting oddly.
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 2:13AM
Mozilla just released an update a couple of days ago - 3.5.5.
BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 4:43PM
Robert,
I have been using Avira for a while now. Although it's one of the better AV suites out there (at detecting total signatures), it is one of the worst and is notorious for false +. I've seen this in personal experiences as well as AV comparison report.
In the end, it's free and really effective (except for the false +). I don't mind them cause I've been pretty good at figuring out if the false + is legit or not (look at the path of the file and think of program association). Avira's heuristic algorithms aren't good, but I'm guessing they don't have shit loads of $$$ coming in like Symantec or Kaspersky.
As for personal firewalls, I know everyone has favorites, but I've tried most all of them. My favorite by far was Sygate, but after they stopped dev'ing SPF, I finally settled on Comodo. Comodo is free (for now), powerful, and very effective (I can't remember where, but I read a comparative test showing it stopped and didn't leak much/if any in many different test - only Online Armor competed with it). I've been very happy with Comodo and highly recommend it.
Hope this helped a little.
Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 11/17/2009 4:48:11 PM
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Nov 18 2009 : 4:36PM
After "upgrading" to AVG 9.x, I finally couldn't stand it anymore!
I just un-installed my paid version (which had seven months remaining).
Went back and got rid of every last fucking piece the program's un-installer left behind, too!
I just upgraded my CounterSpy home-site license to Vipre (which is a complete anti-virus/anti-malware solution), and my laptop is running on Astroglide!
 
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 18 2009 : 8:01PM
I upgraded the free edition to 9.0.x a couple of days ago. I haven't experienced any problems (yet).
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Nov 19 2009 : 11:55AM
^ Does the free version give you AVG Anti-Rootkit?
If it does, see if you can get the BSOD if you try running it
For the paid version, which I had (and un-installed), I don't consider it acceptable.
I've used paid versions of AVG for 4+ years now, and it's been a steady downhill trend with every new "upgrade" version. Always issues. This time, I decided I'd had enough.
FWIW, the last communication I received from AVG tech support.
(I had previously sent them other reports, BTW.)
Enough is enough.
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Posted - Nov 19 2009 : 5:27PM
I am switching to Avast as we speak.
BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 6:29PM

BigBobxxx,
Sounds like you are ready to migrate to a new AV. This helped me way back. Doesn't address the stability (esp. recent builds), but helped me narrow down good AV candidates, so I could then research stability history.
Good luck.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 7:36PM
^ Read my "Nov 18 2009 : 04:36:30 PM" post above :)
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Posted - Nov 21 2009 : 11:08PM
I know very little about tech and I have barely read any of the thread, but I just wanted to say that I felt like contributing to this thread.
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Posted - Nov 30 2009 : 7:39PM
I'm running AVG free right now on Windows 7 (a two day old installation) and it hasn't given me problems. I have the option of installing Norton 10 instead if it becomes a problem.
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Posted - Jan 7 2010 : 1:45PM
If I want to uninstall AVG and use Avira instead, is it safe to uninstall AVG before downloading Avira, or can I download Avira, go offline, uninstall AVG, and then install Avira offline?
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Posted - Jan 7 2010 : 2:11PM
I would go with your second choice.
I would also use something like CCleaner or Revo uninstaller to make sure your removed all of AVG from your registry.
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Posted - Jan 7 2010 : 2:56PM
Thanks, Redish.
You're the best!
 
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Jan 7 2010 : 6:56PM
For the last two or three days every time I have started up Firefox it tries to install an update but the installation always fails and leaves a message saying to make sure I have no other copies of Firefox running and then try to install it again. I don't have any other copies of Firefox running when this happens though.
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Posted - Jan 7 2010 : 7:03PM
^ Go into the Task Manager, click on the Processes tab, and click on the first column to sort the names. Look for firefox .exe ; select it (or them) and hit the "End Process" button.
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Jan 11 2010 : 10:25AM
How do I get to the task manager?
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Posted - Jan 11 2010 : 10:38AM
Ctrl+Alt+Del just one time.
Task Manager should be a choice there.
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Posted - Jan 11 2010 : 1:11PM
Another way is to right-click on the Task Bar (bar at bottom of screen between the clock and the Start button) and left-click on Task Manager.
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Posted - Jan 12 2010 : 7:37AM
Got it, thanks.
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Posted - Apr 4 2010 : 1:13PM
Replacing AVG with Avira was hugely successful. The speed of the computer is night-and-day different.
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Edited by - redish on 4/4/2010 1:49:46 PM
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