Reviewers Recommend Hot Wives 8, The - review by Captain Jack Director: Mike Quasar Starring: Van Wylde, Jay Smooth, Codey Steele, Ella Reese, Charlotte Sins, Freya Parker, Melissa Stratton. Read review
Now dont misunderstand me Im certainly not gay. But it seems that in many recent productions the male actors look as if they are fresh out of prison or from the worst trailer park. To enjoy a movie I want at least some guys who are not utterly repulsive.
Where are legends like Peter North or funny, fat guys like Ron Jeremy ? When North did a scene it looked believable that he would get that girl cause hes a hunk. And Jeremy was the "buddy" type, basically "The ugly duckling who had beaten the system".
Some guys get into porn riding on the tails of their girlfriends of the time.
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3735 Posts 10/02
Posted - Dec 28 2004 : 11:53PM
This topic has been discussed many times before, but I think it's kind of interesting nonetheless. Most guys that watch porn will tell you they watch for the girls, which seems fairly obvious. But, with so much porn being made, fans can pick and choose which DVD's to buy with their favorite girl(s). So if you are a big fan of Monica Sweetheart, for instance, you can go to AdultDVDMarketplace.com and bring up 8 pages of DVD's that she's been in. So, yeah, what guy(s) she's with does matter, because it's one of the primary means of differentiating one scene from another. Speaking for myself, if I can tell from the box or a review that the girl I want to see is matched up with a substandard male talent (I will resist naming names), I will very likely not give it my time, just because there are usually so many other choices. Now, if a girl is brand-new in the business, or is just starting to do anal, or there's something else to make the scene unique, you're talking a different ballgame.
I think there are actually a lot of new males coming into the business right now, and that this is basically because of the large amount of porn that's being made. In this type of environment, you're going to see a lot of weaker male talent, a lot of smaller cocks on weird lookin' or flat-out ugly dudes.
Guys are not necessarily booked based upon their acting ability/looks/muscles/penis size, but rather it's about functionality (get it up quickly, don't cum before you're supposed to, and DO cum reasonably soon after being directed to do so). We're shooting low-budget sex, not unlimited budgets or "Gone With The Wind"!! I'm sorta amazed that the blue pill hasn't launched many more careers for the type guys that might appeal more to women/couples---it seems like some new guys can't get always get a cum shot off without it taking a overly loooooong time, hurting filming momentum, delaying follow-on scenes, and sometimes pissing off crew and others! IMHO, the pre-blue pill guys still seem like the most capable and dependable, and do the best sex scenes! FUNCTIONALITY!
Viewed from an economical perspective Dave is right of course. But I think having at least somewhat matching couples/groups adds significantly to the erotic rating of a scene. Im not asking for models or something, but at least dont hire any Quasimodo only cause he can keep an erection.
On the other hand I also dont like it if you overuse the same talents time after time. Recently I try to avoid Private movies cause half of them seem to have David Perry in them. I mean he looks decent and is a great fucker but having him in every other movie feels kinda weird.
I know its not easy if youre on a budget, but some fresh faces and at least a minimum quality standard would be nice. Its a total turnoff to see hairy, beerbellied weirdos covered in prison tatoos (or obvious steroid abusers) humping away with hot women.
The blue pill I'm referring to is Viagra and/or the other erection-enhancers; IMO, prior to them hitting the market, the only guys with much of a chance of breaking into porn were those who indeed could "function" naturally; now, however, lots of guys use "artificial" means to try and get into porn---often getting their "chance" by riding the coat-tails of a new girl (but, sooner or later, some seem to build up a resistence to the over-use of enhancers and it adversely affects their "functionally", especially the aspect of doing a timely cum shot without delaying the shoot. Just my observations and opinion!
I can't ever remember noticing a male performer, for anything other than his ability to hit the proper target, at the most opportune moment, I myself would hope to, but with a load the size of which, rightly merits the opportunity. I have no problem with overweight, underweight, short, tall, ugly, tattooed (pierced can be disturbing), 18 or 81, little dicked, big dicked, any dick, so long as the female doesnt. IMO his objective should be to develop my interest, not simply to maintain his, so his sense of perversity, should be intense, if not extreme. I'm a realist, not all can be the quintessential Dave Cummings.
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Dec 29 2004 : 12:01PM
I personally don't care what the guy looks like, so long as he keeps it hard and delivers a half decent pop-shot. My view is that if the scene is well directed, you should not even notice the guy, except for whatever body part is strategically connected to the girl at any point in time.
The best scenes are those with minimal and fleeting shots of the man's face (particularly when it is viagra-induced bright red) and certainly no man-ass!
Jimbo733 - I just ran into Jules today - nice guy. We have known each other for a while.
Dave - I give you and the blue pill credit! Hey, if it works and it keeps you working, I'm all for it. We both know that there is still more to it than just getting it up. There is also the mental factor that I hear so many of the guys talking about! I applaud you all the way!
I'm not saying he isn't a nice guy. I'm sure everyone in porn owes him a big credit - he must encounter a lot of envious people like myself! :-)
I think Steve Holmes and Brandon Iron inject a wicked sense of humour into their films, and maybe my dislike of Jules is that he seems quite serious and his titles for me are starting to feel samey.
Hey, i was blown away when i saw the first three episodes of Flesh Hunter - since then though i feel it's levelled out.
Jules and Chico Wang seem to have quite a rivalry.
Hey dave I notice in your films your able to retain a hard on perfectly...THat little blue pill is a great thing isnt it
I am having wood problems, so am thinking of trying viagra...I hear lex takes something called tribulus testerris and he said that works great for getting great wood too
I like chicos vids, most difference I notice between the 2 is jules uses alot more makeup, clothing and plastic on the women, as well as more breast implants...were chico has the girls with less makeup and props, barefoot instead of heels, and more of the next door girl look...
I like to see men in porn and I can forgive less than "perfect" looks if they bring some genuine enthusiasm to a scene that goes beyond the "oh yeah baby suck my dick" school of vocal encouragement.
Joel Lawrence with Friday in the last scene in Truly Nice Ass -- his arms are around her body, caressing and stroking her,he holds her, he says things like "You're so beautiful" like he actually means it, they smile and laugh and tumblefuck around in a very satisfying way. Shame we don't actually get to see much of him or his face...I find disembodied pistoning cocks terminally boring to watch.
I'd be happy to see another male actor that could match Peter North's faboulous equipment. I don't know much about today's male actors, neither in straight or gay porn, but I get the feeling he's still the king when it comes to size, force and amount of cum. Glad he's still around!
A lot of men like to see ugly men in videos. Why? Because it makes them feel more "studly" if the man is very unattractive. No threat is posed.
I will agree that some men still do enjoy watching big-dicked studs fucking a hot woman; it's just less common than it was was 10-20 years ago.
Porn of the past (70's and 80's) focused more attention on the man's "big dick". The "male" seemed to be more than just a "an essential prop", as he is so often potrayed today. I've watched a lot of porn from the early-to-mid 80's, and so much attention was focused on the stud's big dick. That's is no longer the case in today's porn. Sure, there are "big dick" movies, but porn culture is not longer as fascinated with showing "big boys" fucking beautiful women. Any small-dicked, ugly asshole can be a pornstar in today's world.
I do agree with a lot of men who say that men are normally "essential props" in straight porn. But, I would not agree with them if they they would have said that 15-20 years ago. A lot of men in those days were buying porn for the women as well as to to see the big dicks.
Nowadays, it is very fashionable for men to say: I don't watch porn at all to see how hung the studs are, or any physical characteristic of the male (except for cum shot and ability to maintain erection), but rather to focus strictly on the women's beauty.
Men always watched porn to see naked women. That goes without saying. But, it is no longer in style to say that you watch porn to see well-hung studs fuck hot women(very few studs in porn are well-hung nowadays).
It is disappointing how porn has evolved in the past ten years.
Big dicks are no longer "in style" as they once were.
Times change and so do tastes!
I hate modern porn(malnourished women, small-dicked men, overload of lesbian scenes and gangbangs).
Yes, Peter North is a stud in my opinion. He's got the ideal cock needed by a male star. Julian is OK, but he doesn't have the "virility" that Peter has.
The man has a fat piece of meat wich shoots huge loads. Does that not constitute a stud in itself? Most men could only dream of possessing such virility.
This boy doesn't watch porn to see hot women getting fucked by little or average-sized dicks. NO, NO, NO! What a turn-off!
Yeah, there are some ugly dudes out there, but I mostly care about the money shot..if a guy can provide a great pop in a chicks mouth or face, he's a winner. I have noticed lately that some of the weakest cum shots are from black men. I have absolutely nothing against black men in porn, but some recent shots from some brotha's are really shitty.
He is indeed in my book the kind of porn, i mean i just love Jules movie and i like when he act in them cuz he have a big and good popshot, but i always tought Jules is really not the prettiest dude, ok he is not ``ugly`` but there a lot better but i don`t care, since he got everything else.
Personally as long as a guy have an average dick and a good pop, then your in for me.
If the guy looks like shit I'm so disturbed it may ruin a scene no matter how good a fucker he may be. I don't fully believe the functionality thing either because in many cases all that seems to be needed is an above average penis... Then porn people know each other... it's like a hip-hop crew with that guy who sucks at everything but still doesn't get kicked out on the street...
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Posted - Mar 5 2006 : 12:03PM
See, now I'm of the opposite mindset, if only because I hate to see a girl I like with someone I find repulsive. And it's not so much decent-looking as the vibe they give off. Seeing Tera Patrick with Evan makes me sick, and it's not because of his tattoos or build, either. It's the vibe.Um, did you ever watch that stuff? All those guys back then were decidedly average Joe types.Again I ask, what porn are you watching? I asked in a thread on another board about today's studs because it seems like every one of them has a damn steel pole and keeps it pointing upward even without jerking it to stay hard. You see it in all the multiple guys to one girl vids that are everywhere these days.
Dick responding first. Men in porn make me feel so good about myself. I am more sensitive, more caring, have a better physique, am more handsome, have a big enough cock, a sense of humor and I love women and respect them. Porn makes me look good. Having said that I want to get off too and all the abusive treatment of women is tough enough for me, but when Jane gets angry about it and the ugly guys with their macho attitudes its a real turnoff for both of us. Dick out.
Jane responding second. I think ugly men are a turn off. Anyone who admits they are such must know at some level they could never get a chance to fuck a girl in porn. Women in porn are beautiful and beautiful women get rich and somewhat attractive men --- just look around. Lets face it porn is a fantasy and I like to look at good looking men who take care of themselves, dress well, are well groomed with some manners. I think the women we see in the DVD's are probably turned on by the same thing. Often they act like they could care less about these things, but then they are paid to respond entusiastically to the lowest form of the male species - the porn male. You guys out there love these ugly duckling guys because there you are sitting on the computer, unshaven, the cracks in your asses dirty, breath like a buffalo, pits full of kinky hair dripping with fowl sweat. And you're thinking yeah these guys look like me, I can get lucky too. Jane over and out.
I agree with the main thrust of what you said. I to prefere beautiful women being fucked by a well hung stud, not Mandingo huge but atleast above average. All these guys with small peckers don't it for me and are a bit of a turn off, no offence. I'd even settle for some ugly looking bloke so long as he had a big dick and new how to use it.
Rocco Siffredi will always be my number one male pornstar, his early scenes with Buttman were awesome. Not so keen on some of his later stuff though.
I agree with you buddy. No, I don't watch porn for "beautiful men". I don't care if he has pretty eyes, big muscles, handsome face. It's not that important to me. The women's beauty is much more important. But, one thing does matter in relation to the stud's anatomy: he's got have a big dick. I must say that small, average, and long, SKINNY dicks don't do it for me either. I want to see a fat dick open up a woman's pussy. A meaty cock is ideal for fucking a hot pussy! Big girth is the main physical trait I look for in the stud. That's really it. If it's long, that's icing on the cake.
I'd also say that big cock confidance/woman making the stud proud of his big meat makes for an extra good scene.
I'd say that Julian/Peter North/Erik Everhard are all worthy to make porn. They got the meat to do it.
I often hear that pornstar Colt Steele is more attractive than other studs in the industry. In my opinion, I don't give a shit that he has muscles/looks. The stud has jack shit between his legs. Since he's small-dicked, I have no desire watch him fucking a hot woman.
The necessary physical traits of both genders in porn:
porn vixens need: beautiful face, long hair, big-titted, hot pussy, curvy
porn stud needs: a big, fat dick that can stretch out a hot pussy (also some big dick confidence added in the mix).
I find a lot of porn guys get burned out and try to do a circus act instead of making a scene passionate and hot. I prefer a guy who's down to earth and sweet then an asshole who thinks the show is all about him. Lot's of these guys forget that's it's about the girl and should start doing jailhouse movies if they cannot find the heat with a woman. I'm tired of seeing a dick fest in porn I want to see the girls enjoying the sex not looking as if they are mulled by wolves.
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7 Posts 2/06
Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 12:57AM
Straight guys watch porn for the men as well as the women. That's why straight guys pay particular attention to the male actors when they rent or buy a dvd. It's not a gay thing but a "reflected glory" thing. Straight guys want to see guys that might look like their handsome buddies, have good bodies, and big cocks.
Actually, the main reason I care about the guys is that I don't want to waste my time watching a scene with some guy that I think is a jerk. I'll just get pissed off and stop watching, so why waste my money?
Sure, I'd like the male talent to be in good enough shape that I don't notice and go "Eww!", and it's nice that the guy's cock is big enough that his body doesn't completely block insertion shots, but I'm really not interested in relating to any of them.
I know men who make no reservations to say that they watch porn to see "the big dick studs" fuck the women of their dreams. Sometimes, I hear men say that they don't care to see men like "Ron Jeremy" in porn.
Personally, a big dick is more important to me than the man's looks/body. I don't like Colt Steele nor John Strong. Their cocks are WAY TOO SMALL to be fucking a hot broad. That's a turn-off for me. Some dudes may find them to be awesome studs. Not me!
But, men often like to buy porn that features studs whom that they'd like to emulate--not fuck! Whether that's a big dick, handsome, muscular, big loads, fucking techniques, sexual energy, etc...
I wont rent a DVD where the guy looks like a pre-madonna stud! I like a male performer who is aged and on the verge of unattractive nailing a slamming looking 18 year old.It fulfills the cornial fantasy of most porn smut male fans when they look at the back of the DVD. "Damn!Look at that gorgeous slut"! She doesnt care who she fucks! Shes just a slut! Thats what the consumer thinks man. The next step is he says....The DVD is $45? Okay I'll buy it.
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Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ... 717 Posts 3/06
Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 3:30AM
Joel Lawrence, Brian Surewood and Randy Spears might not be the best looking guys in the porn business, but they are some of the finest performers that I can always count on to treat the woman to a romp without the extreme or circus act stuff, and still generate some real motion in the sack. They bring out the best in the women they work with, and when the female is an energetic, ravenous sex goddess, I am a happy porn consumer.
Uhhhh...Yeah! Brain Surewood fits the scenario perfectly what I was talking about. He looks lke an Hells Angel with those braids in his beard fucking these young teens.
God...all you guys sound gay. I don't care how the male talent looks or how big or small, thin or thick his cock is. What matter is the fucking, if the guy can fuck the girl like the "whore" she portrays that is what is important.
I agree with you .... I love women and sex. Watching porno jerks act macho and tell women "suck my cock, take it all the way, stick that tongue out and lick my balls, spit on it" like the women are puppets or idiots causes me to hit the skip forward button every time. Besides what I need, Jane wants the men to be as attractive and spend as much time and money on their appearance as the women do (muscle tone, hair, makeup, nails, beard, tan). Men can get a gut, women in porn cannot; men can have sloppy asses, women in porn work on their glutes every day. Men can be butt ugly as long as their dick works; women have to start by being beautiful, stay rail thin and then get implants to make them look like a Venus statue. There are two standards and it detracts from our enjoyment of porn ... if the men were half as fit and half as good looking it would be far better.
as a woman what do you like about watching porn? I don't understand how women can really watch porn, unless of course, she was a lesbian and liked watching the girls. I doubt straight women are watching porn to see the guys, since men in porn are usually stunt cocks and generally speaking women in society can find a guy to have sex with very easily.
Edited by - freedomfighter on 3/10/2006 1:58:25 PM
What tired stereotypes? It is true that most men are pigs. I have yet to hear a woman engaging in sex crimes. The majority cosumer of porn is men(me included). Men are the sole motivator for strip clubs. These are things women normally do not enage in unless she is the victim of a sex crime or offering something sex related. I am not saying all men are bad and evil, but men more so than women are usually the perverted ones.
Hot Wives 8, The - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Dec 28 2004 : 10:55PM
