The back cover viewing credit card requirement has been covered many times in the shopping forum lately and has been in place on their site since sometime in June.

Anyway, Skeeter is a nice guy. He doesn't strike me as the type that would kick someone's ass because they don't like his product. (Unless of course that someone is Roger Pipe, then he might work him over real good just for sport. )

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Edited by - M.B. on 8/3/2003 11:15:40 AM

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It all boils down to community standards. Empire is being cautious by not selling certain items that very well could be considered obscene in some areas, you can't blame them for that. IMO they are being smart about this.

Some of you think that it's your god given right to buy your favorite double-everything stroke flick whenever and from whomever your heart desires. Some are further compelled to bash on retailers that won't sell the stuff you're interested in. What's the point? Go buy it elsewhere or point people in another direction. There's plenty of other places it's still available.

Before you shoot your mouth's off about companies not selling certain movies please take a little time and read The Government vs. Erotica. Many people posting in the forum here haven't been porn fans long enough to know what happened in the 80s.

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Well, there will be always European online stores to order from who don't have to worry about American laws ;-)

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As for "adult" titles, the company has removed all titles featuring the narrowly focused niche that interests me the most. And, as per the suggestion posted previously in this thread, I have taken my business elsewhere as a result (Adult DVD Now, AdultCDmovies, Jaded, and a few import houses).

Remember, the parent company, DVD Empire, has a lot to lose if it gets embroiled in a money-draining community-standards litigation. Most other online porn dealers aren't subsidiaries of a larger mainstream store.

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Please try to act like civil, mature adults.

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I don't blame ADE for girding its loins.

~ GaySatyr

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There are many places around the country where the titles that they are dropping may be considered obscene. Trying to keep track of what they shouldn't ship to where would be virtually impossible.

ADE appears to be rather conservative regarding the chances that they want to take. They are probably the best known e-tailer that sells adult product (possible due to their mainstream DVD presence). Because of this, they could be the biggest target if some D.A. decides to make waves. I can't say that I blame them. The plus side to selling everything doesn't outweigh the potential minus side if they were to have to face prosecution. Even if they won, the legal costs could cripple them.

Therefore, they have two choices. They can either not ship anything to those locations, or they can drop the titles that may be objectionable in those locations. ADE has recently been adding more locations to which they do not ship (there are a few threads here complaining about that). I wouldn't be at all surprised if, once ADE cleans house of "questionable" titles, they were to begin shipping to some of these locations again.

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Edited by - Bill on 8/15/2003 5:46:12 PM

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Edited by - M.B. on 8/3/2003 6:00:35 PM

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Btw, I noticed they also don't sell ANY Extreme Associates movies, not even the tamer ones like the movies from Tom Byron or Mike Stephano.

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Edited by - M.B. on 8/3/2003 7:45:28 PM

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For example, they have almost every volume of Chasing the Big Ones, except 17. Must be some issue there. Also, the Sineplex No Limits titles are not sold there.

I totally agree with their right to make these decisions. The only bummer is that I like to sell used DVDs to Used DVD Empire, and they only buy back DVDs that DVD Empire sells. I'm glad I sold them some of my Extreme Associates titles a while back.

I'd rather see studios tone down the names of titles and make less explicit boxcovers than see good stores not stock such titles.

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You've noted, and I'm often puzzled by it as well, the seeming inconsistencies between material that companies will consider 'safe' and 'risky'. My personal puzzlement is the number of companies that feel fisting is too risky, but will put out an entire series titled "Gangbanged High School Babysitters" (I made that up, please don't tell me it really exists....).

People just make some stance to contain risk as they see it, and there's no guarantee that they'll see it the same way you or I do.

Scott Kinney
Diversified Video Associates
www.xxx-imports.com

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I didn't start Evolution due to any fabled "demise" of
Extreme. I started Evolution because I wanted my product
to be available to whoever wanted it, and the word "Extreme"
kept me out of certain venues. Extreme was no longer just
the name of a company, it described a whole genre of porn.
Even though my movies were no more "Extreme" than any of
my contemporaries,(RLD,PXP,Evil, etc.) in many cases LESS
extreme, distributors like AdultDVDEmpire and others would
pass on it due to the association with Extreme.

It's rather disheartening that we live in a country where
our freedom and livelihoods are threatened whenever a shitbag Republican sits his self-righteous ass in the White
House. PLEASE people, get out and vote this cocksucker out!

Hope this clears up some of the confusion.

Edited by - Tom Byron on 8/6/2003 5:24:30 AM

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I abhor censorship especially when it
cums to Porn! But I do understand
ADE's final decision of not carrying
certain "objectional" movies.

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