"You Filthy Slut...How Dare You Gang Bang Us"

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Cizzarries Member 9 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jul 21 2016 : 11:20PM I recently checked out some German gang bang movies from 2005 and 2006..... Even though I don't understand German it was clear that there was a real report between the women and the guys...They'd talk and chuckle and over all appear to be comfortable with each other and having a great time. Compare that to this stupid trend in so much American gang bang porn of treating the women like dog shit for allowing them to gang bang them. Where the hell did all this bullshit attitude come from? I know there are humiliation scenes that are set up as such for those who are into that, but these are supposed to be regular scenes. Actually all in all I think some of the best porn today is directed by women....Many of them get it....Sex is fun, not dumb.....Where the hell are all these foolish male directors coming from? [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 21 2016 : 11:52PM A lot of men in porn, whether people admit it or not, do not like women and think they are all worthless money sucking whores. It is what it is. Here is the US, any scene with multiple guys and one woman that is directed by Mason (female director) are absolutely fantastic and the women are treated like goddesses. [Link]
Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 9:39AM ^ & ^^ Wow. I have Ganbanged 1,2,4,5 (Mason) and - apart from one scene - I can't watch any of them, way too rough for me. (And some of the Gangbang Auditions movies by female director Su are quite rough too.) Edited by - Simple Simon on 7/22/2016 9:52:17 AM [Link]
girlswaygirl Member 162 Posts 7/16	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 11:42AM I like Mason and I like the concept of the gangbang but I agree that it often plays out in a shitty way that does not seem intended to be "fun" so I don't watch them often. I got Jules Jordan's Slut Puppies 9 and Diabolic's Gangbang Auditions 30 purely for Carter Cruise. They were definitely outside my normal wheelhouse. One of the best I remember is Remy LaCroix's for Remy 2 by William H. (Elegant Angel). I don't like any scene where the guys are talking too much let alone treating the girl badly. It would be so much more satisfying to watch them laugh and enjoy each other like you described. Directors should take note but I think the user above is right that a lot of men in porn probably don't have huge amounts of respect for women. Luckily a lot of the worst offenders I remember from when I first began watching porn are no longer around, but it's still a problem. There is an audience for people who want to watch hard acts like gangbangs, blowbangs etc. where the participants are actually enjoying each other so whoever is listening please give us more of that! [Link]
bacon cheesesteak Deactivated User 247 Posts 1/16	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 11:50AM Gang bangs do nothing for me. Heck, I don't have much use for any scene where there are more dicks than pussies. If I were king of the world, every scene would have at least a 2 to 1 ratio of pussy to dick. [Link]

Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 2:04PM Simple Simon wrote: ^ & ^^ Wow. I have Ganbanged 1,2,4,5 (Mason) and - apart from one scene - I can't watch any of them, way too rough for me. (And some of the Gangbang Auditions movies by female director Su are quite rough too.) Edited by - Simple Simon on 7/22/2016 9:52:17 AM Click to expand If Mason's gangbangs don't celebrate women in your eyes, I would respectfully suggest gangbangs are not for you and you should probably put them back on the shelf. Gangbangs are supposed to have some roughness to them. There is however, a big distinction between that and what the OP is referring to (a genuine dislike towards women by male talent and directors). On a side note , if you cant' watch them I wonder why you kept buying them after #1 :) (assuming you did buy them) Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 7/22/2016 2:05:18 PM [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 2:42PM bacon cheesesteak wrote: Gang bangs do nothing for me. Heck, I don't have much use for any scene where there are more dicks than pussies. If I were king of the world, every scene would have at least a 2 to 1 ratio of pussy to dick. Click to expand Absolutely. Although 1 to 1 ratio is fine too. [Link]
Fred Norris Member 535 Posts 8/12	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 3:11PM I was recently watching Holly Heart's scene for hardcoregangbang who has done plenty of gangbangs most of them rough. The interview right after the scene is even hotter than the actual scene. Here is what she says about gangbangs. "I love the feeling of men taking control of me. I really don;t know what it is. I feel empowered in a sense as a woman. The fact that five guys are fighting to fuck you is really sexy. When you;re simulating that type of idea of just five men trying to get at your every orifice it;s very sexy, it;s very empowering. A lot of women wouldn;t say that but a lot of women haven;t been gangbanged so they probably wouldn;t understand. I like the feeling of knowing that I have so much control as a female. Like my body controls dicks and that;s pretty hot. I think if more women looked at it from that aspect like we;re in control of these dicks that can;t control themselves cause our bodies are just so god damn hot. I just feel like women should feel more empowered in that sense when they do a gangbang." That's what gangbangs are all about (or should be) imo. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 3:33PM bacon cheesesteak wrote: Gang bangs do nothing for me. Heck, I don't have much use for any scene where there are more dicks than pussies. If I were king of the world, every scene would have at least a 2 to 1 ratio of pussy to dick. Click to expand Interesting you would join discussion in a gangbang thread if they do nothing for you. YOu seem to like to moan about things you don't like more than enjoy what you do like. [Link]
Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 5:53PM ^^ I really wish we would stop taking things Porn actresses say in interviews as gospel. It's not like they can say, 'I actually hate it, I'm only doing it for the money'. Edited by - Simple Simon on 7/22/2016 6:18:39 PM [Link]
Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 6:17PM Canadian_Cindy wrote: [/quote] If Mason's gangbangs don't celebrate women in your eyes, I would respectfully suggest gangbangs are not for you and you should probably put them back on the shelf. Gangbangs are supposed to have some roughness to them. There is however, a big distinction between that and what the OP is referring to (a genuine dislike towards women by male talent and directors). On a side note , if you cant' watch them I wonder why you kept buying them after #1 :) (assuming you did buy them) Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 7/22/2016 2:05:18 PM [/quote] Huh? I love watching gangbangs they are my favourite type of porn. I listed some of my favorite scenes in this thread. I like the roughness from the women, most of the time I wish the men would just be quite. The reason I kept buying them is the ladies they starred: #2 Dana DeArmond, #4 Julia Ann... . (plus, Lisa Ann's scene is amazing). And for this reason, I actually still try and watch them, but almost always have to turn them off. Edited by - Simple Simon on 7/22/2016 6:20:23 PM [Link]
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 6:21PM ^ This comment from you earlier in the thread: Simple Simon wrote: I have Ganbanged 1,2,4,5 (Mason) and - apart from one scene - I can't watch any of them, way too rough for me. (And some of the Gangbang Auditions movies by female director Su are quite rough too.) Click to expand Seems to contradict what you're saying about liking the roughness. I can see why Cindy thought you were saying you didn't like them. [Link]
Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 6:44PM Canadian_Cindy wrote: A lot of men in porn ... think [women are] worthless ... whores. Click to expand Well, in non "hardcore" porn, not only do they openly call the women as such, I've seen them grab the woman's head and aggressively make the woman call herself such things. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 6:49PM Cizzarries wrote: I recently checked out some German gang bang movies from 2005 and 2006..... Even though I don't understand German it was clear that there was a real report between the women and the guys...They'd talk and chuckle and over all appear to be comfortable with each other and having a great time. Compare that to this stupid trend in so much American gang bang porn of treating the women like dog shit for allowing them to gang bang them. Where the hell did all this bullshit attitude come from? I know there are humiliation scenes that are set up as such for those who are into that, but these are supposed to be regular scenes. Click to expand What scenes from this year are you thinking of? [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 6:52PM ^^Recent (2016) examples? [Link]

Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 6:52PM There's a difference between roughness and nastiness/meanness. Mason's stuff is rough, but I don't find it to be unpleasant toward the women. I guess some of them follow the "yeah you love it you nasty slut" type stuff, which I suppose is partially what the OP is talking about. It does get pretty tiresome and predictable. It seems that people assume gangbang = degrading, putting the woman through the ringer until she is "broken." It needn't. I would love to see more gangbangs that have the joy and fun described by the OP. [Link]
Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 7:24PM ^^ Sorry, I should have said older porn. (One that sticks in my head is Dana Vespoli's scene in Gangbang Auditions 13.) ^ I think you're right. Gangbangs are assumed to be a hardcore act. Hence the things associated with hardcore porn like, yelling, name-calling, objectifying, face-slapping, throat fucking, chocking, are felt they have to be part of a gangbang. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 7:45PM Mister Fahrenheit wrote: ^ This comment from you earlier in the thread: Simple Simon wrote: I have Ganbanged 1,2,4,5 (Mason) and - apart from one scene - I can't watch any of them, way too rough for me. (And some of the Gangbang Auditions movies by female director Su are quite rough too.) Click to expand Seems to contradict what you're saying about liking the roughness. I can see why Cindy thought you were saying you didn't like them. Click to expand I think he has botched this thread and contradicted himself to the point that there is no further discussion necessary :) As I was saying, he says he can't watch Mason's Gangbanged series, yet in a follow up post said he liked them (or implied it), The original post was not lamenting rough acts, I believe it was more going on about how mean the guys and directors can get (and there is a difference that many men don't seem to catch). My point stands Mason's gangbangs are about the best series if you want to watch a gangbang done by a director who loves the girls, and the girls love the director back and celebrate the woman in the scene. [Link]
Simple Simon Senior Member 12302 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 7:47PM Mister Fahrenheit wrote: ^ This comment from you earlier in the thread: Simple Simon wrote: I have Ganbanged 1,2,4,5 (Mason) and - apart from one scene - I can't watch any of them, way too rough for me. (And some of the Gangbang Auditions movies by female director Su are quite rough too.) Click to expand Seems to contradict what you're saying about liking the roughness. I can see why Cindy thought you were saying you didn't like them. Click to expand Sorry, you've lost me. I don't like the Gangbanged series because I found them, for me, too rough towards the women. But yes, I still bought them, and still TRY to watch them, because I want to see women they star. (Eg. Bobbi Starr (#1) and Dana DeArmond (#2): it so bugs me that the scenes are so rough, but I still try to watch them because I want to see these ladies with seven men.) [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 7:48PM ^ it's a gangbang.... if you are asking a gangbang to not be rough to some degree you are asking a peanut butter sandwich to not have peanuts. They just go hand in hand. There are varying degrees to try to get you to where you want to be (Mason vs Princess Donna's Hardcore Gangbang vs some JM Production stuff from years ago just as some varying examples). There are styles where they want the girl to be satisfied and exhausted, or to wanting the girl to be running away in tears wanting to kill herself. There are differences. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 7/22/2016 7:50:30 PM [Link]
rhodium Member A cracked polystyrene man 183 Posts 6/11	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 8:04PM ^ The degrees you're talking about are the differences between right wing and far right wing. For me, I'm also looking for the other end of the spectrum. From the male actor's perspective: Mason: "Bitch you're gonna get it" Hardcore Gangbang: "You fuckin whore, you're gonna get it whether you like it or not" The other end: "I can't believe you're gonna fuck all of us" Obviously these aren't direct quotes, just for exposition. Also, not a left wing / right wing issue, just metaphor for the spectrum. Having said that, some of my favorites usually don't involve anal like Ashli Orion in All Aboard the Gangbang Train and Katie St. Ives from Bang Bang Bang! Mile High usually puts out some good ones in their 4 on 1 Gang Bangs series, and every once in awhile, DDF does too. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 8:07PM rhodium wrote: ^ The degrees you're talking about are the differences between right wing and far right wing. For me, I'm also looking for the other end of the spectrum. Click to expand Haha, that is a pretty good way to frame it. Made me laugh. [Link]
MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10	Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 8:43PM Ah...gangbangs where they are having fun and a great time, without male talents who spend most of their time acting like morons or treating the girls like crap...it's a nice dream. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 2:59PM Simple Simon wrote: ^^ Sorry, I should have said older porn. (One that sticks in my head is Dana Vespoli's scene in Gangbang Auditions 13.) Click to expand That's a pretty soft scene imho. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 3:09PM ^^What if the pornstar's idea of fun and having a good time during a gangbang involves the male talents manhandling her, calling her names, etc.? [Link]

Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 6:24PM ^ now now, don't ever think the performer's interests matter when it comes to fan demands :) [Link]
MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 9:19PM ^^If that's the case then great for them. [Link]