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| Speedy Member 33 Posts 8/11 | I sometimes have the feeling that people are to much into porn fantasy, especially after reading the "Which stars prefer anal to vag" thread. How far has this come? I have nothing against anal and i also think it is hot. But let's be honest: for women it is not. The porn stars who posted there, of course said they love it, but just to keep your fantasies alive. In fact we can say that 99,9 % of the women out there, are definetely not into anal. They are not enjoying or wanting it. And if they do, then mostly do fulfill a desire, most of them not doing it again after they done it once. Perhaps a very little few "enjoy" it with their mind, fulfilling there partners wish. But thats all. It if wouldn't be for the money, you wouldn't even see anal scenes in porn, because none of them would ever do it. And even porn stars are not really liking it, they are just acting like they do. Thats why they use lubrications to deaden the anus when they do those scenes. You woulnd't do that if you like it. I sometimes have the feeling that people here think it belongs to the real life sexuality. But being real, anal is nothing that women enjoy. It is not even possible to get an orgasm for them. Men can, because of stimulating the prostate through anal. But women clearly don't have that. So anal gives them nothing. Edited by - Speedy on Feb 15 2012 [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Do women really enjoy anal sex? The Truth About Anal Sex: Question for the Girls |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | |
| Speedy Member 33 Posts 8/11 | @Bob Thats the point. I highly doubt that some like it. And for porn stars saying that, i think we can agree that you can not trust them. Just porn fantasy. Of course they say that. In reality, they dislike it too. Edited by - Speedy on 2/15/2012 10:50:56 PM |
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| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Your original point (or assertion) was that 99.9% don't like anal sex. That's substantially different from "some do and some don't". Doubt what you like, but I just wonder whether you have any more basis for it than the guys on the other side of the question who think that every woman on earth is, whether she knows it or not, dying to be ass-fucked. |
| Rod Member 908 Posts 8/10 | Let me first say these are women that have answered an ad to make amateur porn. They're not your average bashful young lady. They're all sexually active and usually looking for a new sexual experience. They're confident enough in their bodies and sexuality to get naked and fuck in front of my camera and sell me the rights to show the world what they do behind closed doors. So, I would say I'm working with a relatively small subset of the general population. When I ask what's off-limits, the number one answer is anal. There usually isn't a number two answer, but if there is, it's getting cum on their face. But, those that have tried anal generally like it and a substantial percentage love it and get off doing it. Some do it exclusively! I think your 99.9% number is way off, but regardless, I can personally testify based on first hand personal experience that there are lots of women that like getting fucked in the ass! |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | |
| Speedy Member 33 Posts 8/11 | Thanks for your answer. But you are sure that they don't just tell this because of the money? I bet, not having extra money for it, no one would actually do it. @Goregoregirl My point is, that reading all discussions here, i have the feeling a lot of people lose the view for reality sex. Especially after reading the topic in the Porn Pool, about porn stars liking anal more than vaginal. Nearly everyone was happy with some answers several stars made their. But come one: it is more than clear that they say that, not to destroy any fantasies, they are living from. I highly doubt that anyone on eof them prefers anal, and wouldn't it be for the money, NONE of them would do it on camera. Especially how much hardcore it became, you can't tell me anyone of them likes that. They like the money they get. Just ask men if they would like it up the ass, and the answer will be no, for most. Though men can get an orgasm through it, because of the prostate. Women can't, there is nothing to be sexual satisfied with it. So tell me why some girls should like that, when it even is for men, who could be satisfied with anal, is a no go? My experience with girls is, that IF they do it, which is rare enough, they mostly do it for the guy. Though hating it. Which is sad. But enjoying? No way. And how? And forget about interviews from porn stars, they do it on camera, none of them does it in private life. No matter what they say, because they will always tell you they like everything they do on camera. They use analgesic, probably not because it is such a pleasure to be fucked in the ass, right? Don't get me wrong, i think it is hot, but reality is something else, and nothing hot is there for the girl. It is just sad that porn makes people thing that women enjoy anal or could enjoy it. |
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| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Gay men have anal sex all the time, so when you say 'men avoid it' I assume you mean heterosexual males. If that's the case then you should acknowledge that heterosexual males don't avoid it because they know it feels bad but because they aren't into guys, and women don't come equipped with a penis. So, OK, you can get your gal to strap one on, but it probably isn't a casual sex thing, and a lot of guys, especially younger males, are freaked out by the implicit role reversal. As for women not having anything 'back there' to make anal sex enjoyable, that's absurd. They have nerve endings, and they have brains that receive signals from those nerve endings and assign value to those signals. It shouldn't be such a stretch for you to imagine that some women's brains can interpret the sensations of anal sex as pleasurable. It shouldn't be any more of a stretch for you to understand that some women find vaginal sex uncomfortable at times, yet they still do it. That being so, we cannot make claims about them not doing another sex act just because it might be uncomfortable at times. People can be complicated, which means that their sexual desires can be complicated. You aren't doing yourself or them a service by trying to generalize their behavior based upon your own experience, and certainly not by denying that women who say they enjoy it are telling the truth, or even that they are really women. Edited by - hardware on 2/16/2012 8:53:40 PM |
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| Speedy Member 33 Posts 8/11 | But porn stars enjoying it, while it is even much more hardcore than in real life? No way. They use analgesic for a reason, says enough to tell they don't like it and are doing it for the money. Same as g/g scenes, just money. In real life they are completely straight. They don't enjoy this either, just the cash for it. All about fantasies. Edited by - Speedy on 2/16/2012 10:48:57 PM |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | Moral: Don't think that most of these women are doing opiates just to suppress pain from her scene. Also, before about 2002 you couldn't swing a dead cat around the room on set without hitting talent that was taking drugs. Now to preface this: If someone was obviously high on a set even then she would be sent home unpaid. However, people are high off their rockers all the time and no one around them can tell. I used to be a drinker and it took me drinking a fifth and a half to two fifths of whiskey or vodka before anyone could tell I was drunk. I was actually drunk around the time I drained the first fifth. I certainly did not drink just to deaden pain (although I had plenty with my back injury), I did it to feel good generally. That is why most talent that partakes take drugs or drink excessively, not just to deaden pain during a scene. Edited by - mharris127 on 2/17/2012 12:12:16 AM |
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| Clay Member 216 Posts 8/00 | Before anyone asks, this is from the Journal of Sexual Medicine. |
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| Clay Member 216 Posts 8/00 | I do not have the exact date but it has been discussed in many recent articles . Slate, Marie Claire, others. Many authors are trying to find a reason why anal sex might not have been the cause of orgasm but the numbers don't fully explain the high rate. I know for my spouse, Anal sex is only occasional, done carefully, but virtually always leads to an intense orgasm ( with clitoral stimulation). It is also over after or shortly after orgasm. It is good while building up to orgasm but not great after. Edited by - clay on 2/18/2012 6:13:26 PM |
| avantim Member 7 Posts 1/09 | A few get off on the pleasure/pain thing; something I don't subscribe to. So between them and me it's just in conversation with me nodding "uh-huh, uh-huh". A couple actually get off on anal. The fact that a lot of sex stores have products and books pertaining to anal pleasure suggests this is not just heresay. I had one partner who did enjoy anal. Bless her heart, she said I was a little too big to be an partner in this regard. More than like to admit like the sensation down around there. I'd almost call it anal play. Outside, maybe no deeper penetration than one finger digit. I've found that one erogenous zone is the bottom of the vag; either the lower part that's ignored when g-spot hunting or the perineum. While I've not gotten anyone off there, I know pressure there really enhances their orgasm. |
| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | however, there are a LOT who ask me for it....and trust me they LOVE it i used to think when i was younger women in real life didnt like all that stuff you see in porn ie anal,3somes, dp, facials etc but thats a load of shit some love it some hate it i remember the first woman i slept with who loved anal...we fucked about 30 min before she said while doing doggy to fuck her in the ass i was stunned as exs before that i had to beg to do it anyway, she came 2 or 3 times before that,, then once we started doing anal ( with no lube..her choice) she came over and over and over.. im talking like at least 10 orgasms before i came ( also before then i had never cum from anal as exs liked it slow and soft and i need to go HARD to cum ) so in answer to the question, i think there are women who love it, even prefer it to vaginal sex |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Honestly? I don't care. It's probably not the most common female fantasy among the vast majority of women. The porn I usually watch is generally not about what women like (unless it's porn made specifically for a female customer base). I watch porn that turns me on and women taking it up the ass turns me on. My assumption is that the people involved in shooting and performing in the scene have worked it all out amongst themselves and that even if the females involved don't like anal, they have agreed to do it for the purpose of making a product that sells to people who like anal sex. It's nice if they can find women who like anal sex but it's not necessary. Anal sex can be painful (which I know from personal experience). I'm not particularly interested in seeing anal that is painful. It doesn't have to be and usually isn't if care is taken in prep. Edited by - randomprecision on 2/20/2012 6:13:40 PM |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | I didn't see it on here-but I've also read studies about certain parts of the vagina that get pressure during anal sex. So not only are they getting pleasure off the anal (both physical and psychological usually) but also very likely vaginal pleasure as well. There's no question to me that women are curious, and many like it, and if they don't or just did it "once" as you suggested, I would argue their partner sucked-as they would usually not like it due to carelessness leading to pain. @Hardware: What happened in 2002 that led to a decrease in porn stars on drugs? I assume there must be laws against it or something-thus your point that they'd be sent home if visibly doped up. That's too bad, I'd love to see movies where all the girls were stoned ("Stoned Cocksuckers") or twacked out ("Sucking Slow to get Fast Drugs!") |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | |
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| the-end Member 35 Posts 2/12 | Being able to reach an orgasm hasn't got much to do with what people can and cannot enjoy. It's like saying that people can't enjoy licking nipples because it can't bring orgasm. Well, I've read that some women can get orgasm by just someone licking their nipples but I can say I can't reach an orgasm by it (I'm male, by the way) but I do enjoy tremendously if my nipples are licked. Now, about anal... WARNING - the text I'm about to write might contain things considered ugly and horrible The enjoyment about anal isn't the same as things that deal with penis or vagina and nerves. Now, I do know that some people do not understand this because they can't feel it but sometimes as basic thing as having a shit causes a good feeling. If the shit is hard enough and if it takes just the right amount of time to get it out of the system, it can cause even an euphoric feeling. There is a certain look in women's faces if they are liking the feeling of anal sex. It's not the same as in regular vaginal sex. There is this a bit euphoric and a bit "tired" look in their eyes. That's quite like the same when shitting is feeling good. I know both male and female who can have this feeling while having a shit. It sounds dirty and disgusting but in the end there theoritically isn't that much difference in a 5cm wide cock or a 5cm wide shit in one's asshole. Then again, too big and hard shit that's not easily coming out can make a horrible pain which I imagine feels quite a lot like what a woman who don't like anal sex and is hurting is feeling. Also, there is the psychological side of anal sex. It is dirtier and still a more odd thing than a blowjob or vaginal sex so the perversion of it also adds up to the euphoria. Some women also can like if someone puts a finger in their ass while they are having an orgasm. For some reason it makes the orgasm greater to some people, both male and female. |
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| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | |
| scorpiusdeus Member Nice thing about tattoos, I'm spending much less on porn now. 225 Posts 9/11 | My current girlfriend and probably the woman I will marry was VERY horny when I met her, but she'd been in some very sexually unsatisfying relationships. Very one sided and she was not getting what she needed therefore, she was not open to trying new things the guys wanted to do because it was all about them and not her. Fast forward to now. When we started having sex she was REALLY enjoying it, but I could tell she was not really "letting go". She was embarrassed by how wet she'd get and when she'd orgasm more than once in a few minutes she'd stare at me like a deer caught in the headlights and then look away. She said she was feeling a little greedy and embarrassed. She then went on a mission to please me. As we have progressed I've spent a great deal of time pleasing her in every way I can. I'm very generous and she's VERY appreciative. She'd never used lubricants, toys, had good oral... and never anal. I started out just rubbing her anus and every now and then pressing a little during oral sex. She'd O in seconds of me touching her anus. The orgasms were stronger and lasted longer. She'd be dripping wet. She'd never mention it, but I could tell she was loving it. She was jut shy. I've since broached the subject of full on anal sex, starting with smaller toys. Her first reaction was "I don't think that's very going to work, but over the last few weeks SHE brings it up and is no almost demanding to explore the possibility. So why? I think that because I spend a lot of time, willing and happily, pleasing her she wants to reciprocate in any way she can. Our sex is already off the charts great, but she wants to up the ante. She's even been watching instructional videos to learn new things. She's really opened up to me and things just keep getting better and better. We will explore this more and I'll report back. |
| Breeze Member One Smokin Hot Chic 532 Posts 11/08 | I haven't been with a woman who hasn't enjoyed anal sex with me yet, and yes I do get out !! |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | |
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| mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09 | As for entertainment value it would depend how stoned the talent members were as to how they would perform, especially men. However, if the titles you quote actually exist those companies took one hell of a risk from a consent and model release standpoint. In fact, some companies routinely videotape their talent before beginning the scene to have record that he/she is coherent and sober enough to consent to what is about to take place just to assist them if the talent sues for this reason. Companies actually have to worry about those that come in high (allegedly) and don't show it, then regret performing later and sue or press criminal charges against those involved in the scene -- especially those that deal with new talent. As for decreasing the number of porn performers using drugs, I don't think it has decreased off-set all that much. I don't know it drug usage on set was ever rampant but the problem of people toking/snorting/shooting up before arrival on set and performing (or attempting to) in an impaired condition was at least an occasional problem for all directors and a more frequent problem for some. Even Sharon Mitchell admits to being a drug addict for 25 years before cleaning her life up. In the 80's John Holmes was caught using cocaine and/or being higher than a kite on set so many times that he couldn't get work for a while. As you can see from my examples drug abuse has been a problem here for decades and just in the past ten to twelve years has there been steps taken to reduce it. |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | But some of the women really get into it when they are high, which makes the scene hotter... so the 2002 thing is disappointing. And some of them don't seem to concerned, but likely it predates the 2002 thing. For example, I know one of the Anabolic Gang Bang Girl movies at the end, shows one of the guys (one of their most used actors) is sitting there frustrated because he didn't cum. And a message on the screen says something like "why not to take speed prior to doing a porn shoot". Kind of funny. And I just saw an old movie (70s or 80s) and I think it was Dorothy LeMay (I might argue her ass continues to go unmatched), looks freakishly stoned on something, but still a very hot scene-but her eyes are nearly rolling back, likely from her brain's ability to only offer enough concentration to perform a good blowjob and not fall over. |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | |
| Breeze Member One Smokin Hot Chic 532 Posts 11/08 | I just simply don't get it, I don't think that situation would be hot at all. Anal sex can be fantastic if done right, I can't imagine women not enjoying it, but that is just me, and the women I am with are not drugged. |
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| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | I don't believe every girl performing anal does it because she likes it -- although some clearly do. It's a job, and anal pays better. Personally, if I were a female performer, I wouldn't perform anal -- whether I liked it or not. Anal sex is by far the riskiest sexual activity to exposing yourself to HIV infection. Short of sharing intravenous drugs or an infected blood transfusion, anal sex is about as risky as it gets. As long as it remains the girl's choice whether to do anal or not, I have no issues with it, per se. Some girls will only do anal with a strictly limited selection of partners that they trust. Others not at all. There are plenty of successful girls who don't do anal. In the case of anal porn, the free market and personal choice seems to be working for most everyone concerned. |
| Mutley72 Member 57 Posts 9/10 | You repeatedly try and state 'facts' like it isn't possible to orgasm from anal. Where is that written? Who said that? And all women in porn use analgesics? Did you ask them? Conduct a poll, do a study? No? No. You just made up a bunch of misinformation, and threw it up. There's a ton of bad info on anal sex on the web, nobody needs you adding to it. Here's an idea: ask questions when you don't know something. Do a little research. Learn something. |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | I don't follow such thinking. I am not an expert on too many topics myself... maybe star wars figures, real estate (and even then, only in one state...), Business Strategy, and conversation control.... I can't think of much else that I'd claim to be an "expert" on, and even then-only relatively so to the majority, as "expert" is practically unattainable, it hints at "perfection" to me... Anyway, there is no question the OP is completely ignorant, it is basically common knowledge among adults... this indicates to me that other people's opinions, including those that count (like women in this case) are not given much weight by said poster. Further shown by an overwhelming majority of experienced opinions, both of those with the brains attached to said anuses, as well as the men like myself giving consistent testimony that some indeed LOVE it. Yet... still, the original opinion hasn't budged, go figure (sarcasm). |
| Amawatcher Member Show it to us! 134 Posts 9/11 | Other women only seem to like it Doggy where my balls hit them if they took it all.. I find it best with amateur porn girls or girls that use the enemas first and know how to relax. It takes time to get ready, and do it so its good..I have paid a few amateurs for great anal.. |
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