2016 - worst year of porn since forever? (page 2)

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fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 1 2016 : 4:42PM Flash wrote: fredgee wrote: Gay guys in straight porn who would even think of doing something like that...it does not look natural or normal especially when they are paired with Black women. Click to expand Wow. That is just a special kind of special there! Click to expand Point is obvious to a heterosexual male. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - May 1 2016 : 4:47PM ^ why I think you made a great reply completely unwilling? That of course if I grasped it correctly, but from this latter intervention of yours maybe not. Edited by - LCF on 5/1/2016 4:49:09 PM [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 1 2016 : 4:49PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ Meanwhile, Stagliano....? Click to expand Well, I think it's pretty clear why he was teflon man in that scenario :) [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 1 2016 : 4:52PM fredgee wrote: Gay guys in straight porn who would even think of doing something like that...it does not look natural or normal especially when they are paired with Black women. Click to expand huh? A few comments... what does the "race" of the female performer have to do with it? Men can be bisexual and have sex with both men and women. I understand a lot of people think sexuality is like binary code and there are only two choices, gay or straight. This is wrong. And, I hate to break it to you, but a lot of your favorite "straight" porn male performers are likely bisexual. Most porn girls will say and verify this if you talk to them. So you might want to get with the times [Link]

Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 1 2016 : 4:55PM xDEFiLED wrote: I was looking forward to the pornyear of 2016, but how disappointed i have been thus far. 95% of all the amazing female performers seems to have retired or gone in hiatus, and there's very little new talent that are worth watching. During the first 4 months of this year, i've found perhaps 7 good scenes worth saving. Where have all the beautiful pornstars gone? Romi Rain and Ariana Marie seems to be the only somewhat active performers that are still worth watching. Click to expand Well, every year sees current "favorites" of any porn fan leave, retire, take a break, etc.... so you could literally make this post about any year in porn. Perhaps 95% of YOUR favorites are not shooting; however, there are plenty of other people's favorites who are. And new performers rise and fall all the time. Actually, I think 2016 is seeing porn improving with even higher quality scenes, great pricing for online memberships and digital product, and a lot of very beautiful performers. I understand it sucks when a whole bunch of personal favorites seem to leave around the same time frame; have to replace them with new ones! [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - May 1 2016 : 5:05PM Canadian_Cindy wrote: fredgee wrote: Gay guys in straight porn who would even think of doing something like that...it does not look natural or normal especially when they are paired with Black women. Click to expand huh? A few comments... what does the "race" of the female performer have to do with it? Men can be bisexual and have sex with both men and women. I understand a lot of people think sexuality is like binary code and there are only two choices, gay or straight. This is wrong. And, I hate to break it to you, but a lot of your favorite "straight" porn male performers are likely bisexual. Most porn girls will say and verify this if you talk to them. So you might want to get with the times Click to expand There was someone who asked why there are so many gay performers in straight porn , we all thought he replied adding a black female as to add value against the homophobic post he replied to adding a plus with race to that. but apparently we were wrong , he just put black women in there as he always does completely unaware of what he did , or so it seems to me , of course I could be the one who got it all wrong , easily. [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 1 2016 : 5:32PM ^ I brought the gay male issue in another thread a few months ago...also in that thread was debate about why wm/bf is the worst performing of the genres but it is still the only time bw work.like I said the point is obvious to hetero males especially Black ones who followed porn a while. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 1 2016 : 6:12PM fredgee, I see what you did there, clever. You insinuated I must be gay. This just leaves me wondering, what happened to you to make you so paranoid that you might actually masturbate to a gay male having sex with a female that makes you think you can "see gay people?" [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 1 2016 : 7:05PM ^Has nothing to do with you...you just spoke too soon. My point has been there seems to be a agenda in porn..I noticed gay men were doing str8 porn a while ago. That is unusual even if it is to save money, it is also a insult to consumer's intelligence because the product is not good as it could be with hetero males..the lack of Black on Black, makes it more suspect.. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - May 1 2016 : 7:16PM ^What does the lack of black on black have to do with it? [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 1 2016 : 7:19PM I agree wholeheartedly fredgee. It is a huge insult to the intelligence. These two male actors were awful and ruined every heterosexual film they were in. Oh wait, no they did a great job. And since adult movies aren't real life, I don't see how it insults anyone's intelligence. I guess I actually don't agree with you at all. And you will really have to explain how gay actors being in heterosexual adult movies has caused the decrease of black on black adult movies. Although I do recognize that to you, everything is involved in a conspiracy to remove black on black adult movies. But I would love to hear the explanation on this one. Yes, I think I called it right the first time, this is a special kind of special. Edited by - flash on 5/1/2016 7:20:07 PM [Link]
Prezscott Member 222 Posts 11/14	Posted - May 1 2016 : 7:29PM Can we get back on the topic of how good or bad porn has been these last couple of months? Thank you. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 1 2016 : 8:39PM fredgee wrote: ^Has nothing to do with you...you just spoke too soon. My point has been there seems to be a agenda in porn..I noticed gay men were doing str8 porn a while ago. That is unusual even if it is to save money, it is also a insult to consumer's intelligence because the product is not good as it could be with hetero males..the lack of Black on Black, makes it more suspect.. Click to expand You over looked my comment.... many of your "hetro males" are bisexual from what the performers will say... so you are living in a dream world if you think everyone is a super hot hetero male. And look, many of them have to jack up with caverject just to be hard when fucking some really hot women.... it doesn't take a stretch to think that "hetro porn" has plenty of men with a variety of sexual orientations. I am not sure it matters as long as the scenes turn out really good. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 1 2016 : 8:40PM Prezscott wrote: Can we get back on the topic of how good or bad porn has been these last couple of months? Thank you. Click to expand It's been great if you like the current active performers.... if your favorites are girls who have taken a break or left the business, then it will suck. Kind of the same cycle that we go through at any period in porn. I had a dark period when all my early to mid 2000's gonzo crushes left the business and honestly 2012 to 2015 really re-invigorated me in porn. If your favorite girls of all time are Sheena Shaw and Asa Akira doing bareback scenes, you are probably pretty sad right now. If you love Romi Rain or London Keyes or Adrianna Checkik (for example), watching them come out in stunningly filmed scenes in amazing quality format at very reasonable prices , then you are probably loving porn right now. One of the offshoots of piracy is the producers have to put out a product that is so good you want to pay for it. I really think the product quality, the scenes, the beauty of the women, is really good. I get my nasty gonzo fix from Legal Porno, and enjoy the gorgeous women of the US porn scene putting out some great scenes these days. Unless you have capacity to watch 100 scenes a week or something; you really don't need to be upset about the amount of content.. there is enough to fill anyones needs if you are a regular working person with a social life and maybe has a few hours a week for porn consumption. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 5/1/2016 8:46:11 PM [Link]

Rico1650 Member Living the Dream 414 Posts 10/07	Posted - May 1 2016 : 11:18PM Flash wrote: Rico1650 wrote: There are so many gay dudes in straight porn it is hard to keep track. Here is a small group: Derrick Pierce Johnny Castle Ryan Madison Logan Pierce Click to expand Why does it matter if they are or not? Are you afraid you are going to catch being gay by watching them in heterosexual scenes? Click to expand 2 reasons: 1) Many look, act and talk like they are very gay, so it gives the scene an absurd aura 2) Obviously HIV is a heavy gay issue [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - May 1 2016 : 11:25PM Rico1650 wrote: 1) Many look, act and talk like they are very gay Click to expand This thread is a gift that keeps on giving. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 2 2016 : 8:46AM ^ +1 I don't know whether to laugh or cry. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 2 2016 : 9:02AM Cry. Both he and fredgee think they can tell gay people by sight and we have now stepped back to the early 80s where the prevalent belief is that HIV is a "gay disease." [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - May 2 2016 : 9:22AM ^ well at least they've advanced from "punishment from God" misspornUSA wrote: ^What does the lack of black on black have to do with it? Click to expand He thinks there's a racist conspiracy by the Industry to segregate black males and females and they are determined to destroy the whole industry but to admit that the whole world wants to see black men fucking black women , they only make us believe we want different things, we're being brainwashed by those ruling the industry. You watch IR porn not because you like black men yourself but because you fantasize about black women , you don't really want to see any white woman in there, you've been blinded to the truth. with this in mind , read his post EACH and Everyone of them carries this notion , subtly, hidden, with double meaning but if you know what he's on a mission to let us know then everything is clear. Anyway I can't even believe they don't get those are PERFORMERS they're not fucking with a hot woman they're performing the 20 minutes cut you can see is the edited finished and polished product made after hours of work , get this: HOURS , they may have even cum already but too early for the scene and had to continue and cum again on demand. think about it. gay my ass! Edited by - LCF on 5/2/2016 9:28:41 AM [Link]
murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - May 2 2016 : 10:12AM Came here looking for fredgee conspiracy rants. Did not leave disappointed. [Link]
Alzharhok Senior Member 1481 Posts 6/10	Posted - May 2 2016 : 11:16AM Fredgee still thinking all the WM/BF scenes is part of a conspiracy? I guess I am in on the conspiracy then as I purposely buy a lot of those scenes Our conspiracy seems to be growing in influence as well, first couple months of 2016 has been great for WM/BF scenes with many even coming from the top studios! [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - May 2 2016 : 1:41PM I just got back from our monthly Porn Cabal meeting and we decided we need to up the dosage of gay cooties we add to each movie. Furthermore we need to find out who leaked the existance of our conspiracy. Heads will roll! Jacco [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 2 2016 : 1:44PM You will pry my sexually ambiguous men from my cold dead hands. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 2 2016 : 2:34PM Jacco wrote: I just got back from our monthly Porn Cabal meeting and we decided we need to up the dosage of gay cooties we add to each movie. Furthermore we need to find out who leaked the existance of our conspiracy. Heads will roll! Jacco Click to expand That is priceless and awesome all at the same time! [Link]

Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 2 2016 : 3:09PM Jacco wrote: I just got back from our monthly Porn Cabal meeting and we decided we need to up the dosage of gay cooties we add to each movie. Furthermore we need to find out who leaked the existance of our conspiracy. Heads will roll! Jacco Click to expand [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 2 2016 : 3:36PM No company would sell someone something they did not order unless they felt the customer would not know the difference..using gay males in str8 porn is like selling someone a hamburger and calling it a steak..the studios feel like they know their customers. There is a conspiracy it just not working as planned. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 2 2016 : 3:52PM So gay males are hamburger and straight men are steak? Do you actually stop and think about what you type? And aren't you afraid that since you are telling everyone about the conspiracy that we are going to find out dead behind a gay strip club with a dido in your mouth because if this conspiracy is as big as you say they must be willing to do anything to protect it. [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 2 2016 : 4:03PM ^ You are protesting a bit too much..like I said they know the customer...lol...if you want to make the point gay men have always worked in str8 porn you would be right but it was not as blatant.. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - May 2 2016 : 4:13PM It is the usual rant, they make us believe , they provide the customers gay performers (white of course 'coz no true man could be white)and make them believe they're straight , the very same way the make us believe we want to see whites performing , but the truth is coming out [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 2 2016 : 4:22PM The truth is out there.... [Link]
murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - May 2 2016 : 5:06PM Well at least the message has taken a bit of an upturn in tone (blatant homophobia not withstanding) Several months ago it was "The industry is doomed! DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!! ...because they don't produce enough content featuring black females" Now at least it sounds like the industry has a chance. Maybe fredgee is finally buying enough BF porn to make a difference. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - May 2 2016 : 6:16PM fredgee wrote: ^ You are protesting a bit too much.. Click to expand Is Flash in on the conspiracy? [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - May 2 2016 : 9:19PM ^If we tell we would have to kill you... Jacco [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - May 2 2016 : 9:31PM ^. [Link]

Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 2 2016 : 10:01PM fredgee wrote: No company would sell someone something they did not order unless they felt the customer would not know the difference..using gay males in str8 porn is like selling someone a hamburger and calling it a steak..the studios feel like they know their customers. There is a conspiracy it just not working as planned. Click to expand you keep ignoring my comment... no shock..... tell me how you feel about many of your "hetro" performers being bisexual in their private lives...... does that bother you or is it only if the guys are on film with other men [Link]
murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - May 2 2016 : 10:14PM [mod edit: sorry but no photos of kids. thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/2/2016 10:29:26 PM Understood. In my defense though it's hard to find pictures of grownups doing the "la la la la I'm not listening!" fingers-in-the-ears thing. Edited by - murdock on 5/2/2016 10:31:46 PM [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - May 3 2016 : 12:20AM ^ True, I know, sorry about that. Here's one I searched for to make it up to you (I wish it was bigger though): [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - May 3 2016 : 3:52AM This thread is hilarious. I haven't found a lot to dig so far this year. There are fewer curvy women in porn right now and that's usually my type so that may have something to do with it. Right now Angela White, Karlee Gray and Dani Daniels are my jam. If anyone has any suggestions about stuff they've loved let me know. I see CC mentioned London Keyes, love her but she seems to not be getting many scenes, perhaps I'm not frequenting the right sites or movies? Edited by - BlackSix on 5/3/2016 4:44:04 AM [Link]
Rico1650 Member Living the Dream 414 Posts 10/07	Posted - May 3 2016 : 9:57AM misspornUSA wrote: Rico1650 wrote: 1) Many look, act and talk like they are very gay Click to expand This thread is a gift that keeps on giving. Click to expand like Richard Simmons and Michael Jackson? [Link]
Rico1650 Member Living the Dream 414 Posts 10/07	Posted - May 3 2016 : 10:00AM xDEFiLED wrote: I was looking forward to the pornyear of 2016, but how disappointed i have been thus far. 95% of all the amazing female performers seems to have retired or gone in hiatus, and there's very little new talent that are worth watching. During the first 4 months of this year, i've found perhaps 7 good scenes worth saving. Where have all the beautiful pornstars gone? Romi Rain and Ariana Marie seems to be the only somewhat active performers that are still worth watching. Click to expand You should take a look at Tushy, Blacked and Tiny4K. Plenty of hot young girls and good porn on those sights. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 3 2016 : 11:52AM fredgee wrote: if you want to make the point gay men have always worked in str8 porn you would be right but it was not as blatant.. Click to expand This is amazingly off base. "Straight" porn used to be much more blatantly queer. [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 3 2016 : 1:11PM ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. That might be good for the companies but bad for the industry. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well. Hence the thread '2016-worst year of porn since forever'. Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. [Link]
murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - May 3 2016 : 1:27PM ^And here I thought the title was just another casual use of hyperbole since so few people today are capable of (or inclined to) making a statement without resorting to the hyperboliest hyperbole to ever bole hyperly. ('cause you know it's possible that this could be a down year in porn without it being the worst in the history of all the forevers, but now'a'days if it ain't the best fucking ever to come down the pike, it must be the worst.) [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 3 2016 : 1:30PM fredgee wrote: ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. That might be good for the companies but bad for the industry. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well. Hence the thread '2016-worst year of porn since forever'. Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. Click to expand male talent has been having sex with men in their personal lives since the porn industry of the 70's . Many Porn men of the 70s to the 90s did gay porn before entering "straight" porn.. .... I am not sure what you are actually trying to say here that is so different in 2016 If you think the 95% of porn consumers who do not read message forums, gossip blog,s or news sites really care if the male talent is bisexual or had sex with another man in their life, you are kidding yourself. This is not why porn fell on tough times. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 5/3/2016 1:32:15 PM [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 3 2016 : 1:47PM ^ Rumor has it that at one time guys had to do gay porn before getting str8 roles. John Holmes died of aids and a few other male stars...that is not the point..John Holmes was not forced and mechanical looking in his scenes neither were the others. If you did not know better it would be hard to tell they were gay or bisexual ..today is different. It is frustrating to watch that is one reason Ir is so popular. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 3 2016 : 2:21PM fredgee wrote: ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. Click to expand Just because you state something doesn't make it fact. This statement of yours is opinion and therefore is up for debate. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well Click to expand So you are saying only the chosen ones can see "gay guys" and everyone else can't? I think you are having grandiose delusions. But that is just my opinion. Just because I state that doesn't make it fact either. It is frustrating to watch that is one reason Ir is so popular. Click to expand So? WM/WF and BM/BF is gay and BM/WF is not gay? Is that your argument? Because you have completely lost me here. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 3 2016 : 2:24PM This is starting to feel like beating a puppy. Fredgee, your ideas make no sense. Maybe seek help for the bizarro homophobia so you can live a more peaceful life free from the terror of The Gayz. [Link]
misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13	Posted - May 3 2016 : 2:36PM fredgee wrote: ^ Rumor has it that at one time guys had to do gay porn before getting str8 roles. John Holmes died of aids and a few other male stars...that is not the point..John Holmes was not forced and mechanical looking in his scenes neither were the others. If you did not know better it would be hard to tell they were gay or bisexual ..today is different. It is frustrating to watch that is one reason Ir is so popular. Click to expand Are you saying that among the men in straight porn, only black male performers are heterosexual? [Link]
Alzharhok Senior Member 1481 Posts 6/10	Posted - May 3 2016 : 2:39PM I was just watching the preview of Mick Blue fucking Chanell Heart in the ass over at Tushy. The conspiracy continues!! I mean it's not like there are really any straight white guys out there that want to fuck girls that look like Chanell or anything! Edited by - Alzharhok on 5/3/2016 2:46:51 PM [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - May 3 2016 : 2:59PM Fredgee Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ What I say will get a reaction...almost regardless of what I say..it is a reflect reaction and if I see it the studios definitely know it. This is not a matter of opinion it is the future of porn. [Link]