2016 - worst year of porn since forever? (page 3)

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LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - May 3 2016 : 3:04PM misspornUSA wrote: fredgee wrote: ^ Rumor has it that at one time guys had to do gay porn before getting str8 roles. John Holmes died of aids and a few other male stars...that is not the point..John Holmes was not forced and mechanical looking in his scenes neither were the others. If you did not know better it would be hard to tell they were gay or bisexual ..today is different. It is frustrating to watch that is one reason Ir is so popular. Click to expand Are you saying that among the men in straight porn, only black male performers are heterosexual? Click to expand Bingo! You know every white male lacks hardness and has to jerk off to finish, even when paired with a black woman go figure! Whereas black talents never do ,and when it happens ,very scarcely, it's because they're paired with a white woman , I mean if it's not black who would fuck her? Edited by - LCF on 5/3/2016 5:14:09 PM [Link]
murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - May 3 2016 : 3:46PM Flash wrote: Just because you state something doesn't make it fact. This statement of yours is opinion and therefore is up for debate. Click to expand You must not be familiar with the fredgee rules of engagement. If he says it, it's fact. No need to back it up with logic, proof, or even popular opinion. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 3 2016 : 4:33PM ^ It's not up for debate. It's not a matter of opinion. Tis not for you to question why. Tis the future of porn. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 3 2016 : 5:48PM fredgee wrote: ^ Rumor has it that at one time guys had to do gay porn before getting str8 roles. John Holmes died of aids and a few other male stars...that is not the point..John Holmes was not forced and mechanical looking in his scenes neither were the others. If you did not know better it would be hard to tell they were gay or bisexual ..today is different. It is frustrating to watch that is one reason Ir is so popular. Click to expand Go watch some Holmes scenes.... his legend is far better than the reality :) They did a lot of camera tricks to hide the fact he couldn't get 100% hard most of the time. [Link]

Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 3 2016 : 5:49PM PS - we are all gay.. celebrate it :) [Link]
a9nostic Senior Member 1056 Posts 8/08	Posted - May 4 2016 : 9:54PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ Give this man an award. For what, I don't know. Click to expand Ha ha I too was like, WUT [Link]
Digital_Euphoria Member 422 Posts 2/16	Posted - Jun 28 2016 : 1:48AM fredgee wrote: What's happened to porn is inexcusable but things could turn around in 2016..some actresses seem ready to comeback for instance Jade Aspen is on instagram more, Ivy Sherwood might be back. Some new chicks look really good Skyla Novea, Trixie Tao, Amanda Pink etc..then there are women like Jezabel Vessier, Ava Sanchez, Chanell Heart who should be working more..the production companies are not going to change it is up to consumers. Click to expand Yeah, some of those new chicks need threads on here. [Link]
ilikeithairy9 Member 72 Posts 12/15	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 1:33AM tintintin wrote: I agree... i'm especially disappointed in Evil Angel. The new directors don't rock my boat. And nowadys its mainly fm scenes. Their lesbian stuff is weird or too loud I miss titles like F for Francesca or ohter stand out titles... its all the same one on one fucking. I wish American pron could be a mix of the nasty Legal Porno (east european) stuff and good acting and performing american pornstars. The great Gonzodays are long gone and probably won't come back Click to expand I agree. I'm no longer an Evil Angel fan anymore. I was only subscribed because I loved Jay Sin's lesbian movies. When he announced he's no longer producing any movies I immediately cancelled my membership. [Link]
yourmomma Member 279 Posts 10/14	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:20AM nah, this has been a great year. I've jerked off so much this year. I'll be back in 10-15.... [Link]
yourmomma Member 279 Posts 10/14	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:25AM fredgee wrote: ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. That might be good for the companies but bad for the industry. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well. Hence the thread '2016-worst year of porn since forever'. Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. Click to expand honestly, I don't even pay that much attention to the men (if I'm watching B/G porn) to notice whether his booty hole is winking at me or not. They are mostly interchangeable to me, so I could care less what they do in other videos, in their personal life, in Thailand, in Brazil, etc. I'm only concerned with what is happening in the video in front of my face and how it gets me to my goal of jizzing in some tissue so I can go to sleep. future of porn. right. [Link]
Soapy Suds Member 628 Posts 9/13	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 7:31AM I don't know how porn studios make any money, what with all these free Tube sites, to*** sites, and other d***** sites. Piracy is rife. I'm actually still surprised we still have a porn industry! [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 2:52PM yourmomma Member 153 Posts 10/14 Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:25AM fredgee wrote: ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. That might be good for the companies but bad for the industry. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well. Hence the thread '2016-worst year of porn since forever'. Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. honestly, I don't even pay that much attention to the men (if I'm watching B/G porn) to notice whether his booty hole is winking at me or not. They are mostly interchangeable to me, so I could care less what they do in other videos, in their personal life, in Thailand, in Brazil, etc. I'm only concerned with what is happening in the video in front of my face and how it gets me to my goal of jizzing in some tissue so I can go to sleep. future of porn. right. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The issue that will not die lol. Like I tried to point out this is not a matter of debate. If the problem is not fixed porn as we know it will disappear. 2016 started out good but it has stalled companies went back to the same old stuff. Consumer anxiety is pretty obvious. It is hard not to notice men they may not be the focus but they are a part of it. When the guy is killing the scene it is impossible to ignore. The main problem though is content, companies not giving consumers what they want. [Link]
mgavin Member Anal is My Thing 820 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:05PM It depends on the year and what performers do very well with their careers. Porn isn't perfect in my opinion. For me it's the performers putting out great stuff from companies I like. Anal Sex Is My Thing :) [Link]
yourmomma Member 279 Posts 10/14	Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 9:49PM fredgee wrote: yourmomma Member 153 Posts 10/14 Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:25AM fredgee wrote: ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. That might be good for the companies but bad for the industry. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well. Hence the thread '2016-worst year of porn since forever'. Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. honestly, I don't even pay that much attention to the men (if I'm watching B/G porn) to notice whether his booty hole is winking at me or not. They are mostly interchangeable to me, so I could care less what they do in other videos, in their personal life, in Thailand, in Brazil, etc. I'm only concerned with what is happening in the video in front of my face and how it gets me to my goal of jizzing in some tissue so I can go to sleep. future of porn. right. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The issue that will not die lol. Like I tried to point out this is not a matter of debate. If the problem is not fixed porn as we know it will disappear. 2016 started out good but it has stalled companies went back to the same old stuff. Consumer anxiety is pretty obvious. It is hard not to notice men they may not be the focus but they are a part of it. When the guy is killing the scene it is impossible to ignore. The main problem though is content, companies not giving consumers what they want. Click to expand It is up for debate as it is your opinion. Your opinion is only a fact to you. To everyone else, we are free to disagree or agree with that opinion. And if we disagree, we are then free to voice dissent. That is how life works Who cares what a person does in a scene I am not watching. As long as humans masturbate, there will be pornography. I personally, could care less who the male performer has fucked "elsewhere." I personally could care less who the female performer has fucked "elsewhere." I, and I assume most other porn consumers, focus on what is going on in the current scene/movie and if it entertains us to the point where we masturbate and then have an orgasm. THAT, is how we determine what a good scene is -If it gets us off, not the worry about, "well, I wonder if he paid his water bill or is fucking a big black man named Kwame in his spare time." I don't have any consumer anxiety. Performance anxiety. anxiety disorder, etc. If a guy is killing a scene, I don't watch the scene. Personally, I don't like watching scenes with James Deen. Even before I knew he was a rapist. To my knowledge, He has never fucked a man on camera or off. But really, I don't care that much. I just don't like him. Has nothing to do with any extracuricular activities.. In conclusion, no one but you cares this much about what a male talent does in scenes you aren't watching. And when you stop watching, no one will care. porn will be fine. lube companies will be fine. tissue conglomerates will all be fine. [Link]

murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - Jun 30 2016 : 2:26AM ^ Don't get too invested arguing with fredgee. He evidently resides in a different reality, that is governed by different rules than the rest of us. Logic and reason played no part in arriving at his conclusions, and they will be of little use to anyone trying to change his mind. [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jul 1 2016 : 12:46AM yourmomma Member 154 Posts 10/14 Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 9:49PM fredgee wrote: yourmomma Member 153 Posts 10/14 Posted - Jun 29 2016 : 3:25AM fredgee wrote: ^ This is not a matter of debate or opinion it is the future of porn..if this is not done right the industry will become a one or two company monopoly. That might be good for the companies but bad for the industry. We are talking about people who not know that gay guys pretending to be str8 does not come off well. Hence the thread '2016-worst year of porn since forever'. Like I said 2016 could be a turn around year..there has been more diversity but as long as some consumers automatically defend what has been going on the turn around will be slow. and painful.. honestly, I don't even pay that much attention to the men (if I'm watching B/G porn) to notice whether his booty hole is winking at me or not. They are mostly interchangeable to me, so I could care less what they do in other videos, in their personal life, in Thailand, in Brazil, etc. I'm only concerned with what is happening in the video in front of my face and how it gets me to my goal of jizzing in some tissue so I can go to sleep. future of porn. right. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The issue that will not die lol. Like I tried to point out this is not a matter of debate. If the problem is not fixed porn as we know it will disappear. 2016 started out good but it has stalled companies went back to the same old stuff. Consumer anxiety is pretty obvious. It is hard not to notice men they may not be the focus but they are a part of it. When the guy is killing the scene it is impossible to ignore. The main problem though is content, companies not giving consumers what they want. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It is up for debate as it is your opinion. Your opinion is only a fact to you. To everyone else, we are free to disagree or agree with that opinion. And if we disagree, we are then free to voice dissent. That is how life works Who cares what a person does in a scene I am not watching. As long as humans masturbate, there will be pornography. I personally, could care less who the male performer has fucked "elsewhere." I personally could care less who the female performer has fucked "elsewhere." I, and I assume most other porn consumers, focus on what is going on in the current scene/movie and if it entertains us to the point where we masturbate and then have an orgasm. THAT, is how we determine what a good scene is -If it gets us off, not the worry about, "well, I wonder if he paid his water bill or is fucking a big black man named Kwame in his spare time." I don't have any consumer anxiety. Performance anxiety. anxiety disorder, etc. If a guy is killing a scene, I don't watch the scene. Personally, I don't like watching scenes with James Deen. Even before I knew he was a rapist. To my knowledge, He has never fucked a man on camera or off. But really, I don't care that much. I just don't like him. Has nothing to do with any extracuricular activities.. In conclusion, no one but you cares this much about what a male talent does in scenes you aren't watching. And when you stop watching, no one will care. porn will be fine. lube companies will be fine. tissue conglomerates will all be fine. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is not a matter of debate. Is water wet, do people debate if fire is hot. No because it is a fact. Whether porn will survive on the current path is not a matter of debate. It is going to die. The thread title would be entirely different if it wasn't in jeopardy. This is not about what one person thinks or prefers it is about saving the industry, giving fans what they want. making porn profitable again. [Link]
Ronald Deactivated User 544 Posts 5/05	Posted - Jul 1 2016 : 6:41PM 2016 has sucked, Evil Angel was my go to company in the past, the past year or so hardly any DPs, lots of anals but rare or no DPS. lots of yucky bush returns, Private not a lot of stuff, Hard X/Mason too few releases, Adriana Chechik is always a treat, but too much IR and not enough DV for her so far for me this year, Tushy and "My DP" is a great great film, I see a lot of stuff I want to watch on Legal Porno, but I guess Im a dinosaur and still like to buy DVDs Edited by - Ronald on 7/2/2016 7:08:48 PM [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jul 1 2016 : 7:11PM 2016 started with a lot of potential to see things revert back to it's old ways is sad.. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 2 2016 : 3:35PM Considering I prefer the average old film to the average current new movie, that sounds like a good thing to me. [Link]
tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07	Posted - Jul 2 2016 : 7:36PM Evil Angel is going down hill fast. They used to have new stuff nobody dared to do. Looking at the upcoming titles page.. theres nothing that interests me. [Link]
Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jul 2 2016 : 8:12PM Rico1650 wrote: misspornUSA wrote: ^^Are there? Edited by - misspornUSA on 4/28/2016 1:04:06 PM Click to expand There are so many gay dudes in straight porn it is hard to keep track. Here is a small group: Derrick Pierce Johnny Castle Ryan Madison Logan Pierce Click to expand Now I finally know why I do everything I can to avoid pieces in which mentioned guys do appear in the environment. They kinda fuck for the buck, not for the passion, all over the line. That SUCKS. I kinda dislike the whole idea. DVDs from the last years, that may be. Trust me, I've seen such fellas also trying to fit in/ bang in orgies, only to appear like guys on a goddamn picknique, players on some pitch, happy to score no goal, only to be there, taking caps, smiling with limp dicks and lots of tats. They treat hot young available horny women the way I treat fruit and shrimps at the fucking supermarket for god's sake. Picking some and letting off like if nothing really was on stake. God I miss Mark Ashley, even Evan Stone. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 2 2016 : 9:08PM MOD: End the homophobia now. [Link]
Soapy Suds Member 628 Posts 9/13	Posted - Jul 3 2016 : 5:35AM Ronald wrote: 2016 has sucked, Evil Angel was my go to company in the past, the past year or so hardly any DPs, lots of anals but rare or no DPS. lots of yucky bush returns, Private not a lot of stuff, Hard X/Mason too few releases, Adriana Chechik is always a treat, but too much IR and not enough DV for her so far for me this year, Tushy and "My DP" is a great great film, I see a lot of stuff I want to watch on Legal Porno, but I guess Im a dinosaur and still like to buy DVDs Edited by - Ronald on 7/2/2016 7:08:48 PM Click to expand Even though Girlfriends Films camera angles on the whole suck, they do - or did - have a great stable of 'lesbian' talent. But most of their 'new' movies this year are basically just previously unused scenes from long ago. [Link]
InstantClassic Senior Member What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10	Posted - Jul 3 2016 : 8:16AM I don't say 2016 is the worst year of porn. It depends on what you like. Nay for me, yay for you. For me 2016 is rather a boring year. Too much generic porn. Too much glamporn. Too many skinny "clones". Too many weak male performer. [Link]

Pete Zaface Senior Member 3064 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 3 2016 : 10:53AM I've always thought that 2006 was the best year in porn -- so many of my all-time favorites were either working or still having stuff released. But I have been just amazed at the women whom I'm getting to watch have sex lately. Leah Gotti Christiana Cinn Jojo Kiss Brittany Shae Nina North Sophia Leone (OMFG) Teanna Trump Kasey Warner Lucy Doll Alexa Grace Blair Williams Samantha Rone Anissa Kate Adria Rae Mia Malkova Ashley Adams Nikki Huntsman Lily Rader Riley Reid Christen Courtney Amara Romani Summer Day Melissa Moore Alexis Adams Annikka Albright The girls are as hot as ever, maybe hotter. The problem is that the productions are so formulaic, every scene bound by the requirements of the series it's a part of. Granted, there's only so many ways to shoot sex, only so many storylines that can be accommodated. But there are still some ideas out there that haven't been explored, and some of the sites (Amateur Allure, GirlsDoPorn) could do SOMETHING a little different -- I mean, except for the girls, virtually nothing changes. I've kicked around a few ideas before. I'll throw a few out. DancingBear was one of the few sites where I was able to believe in the spontaneity and verisimilitude of what was happening. Bring it back. How about a reverse DancingBear, where porn stars (or, hell, amateurs) are the dancers, and the customers at a strip club the beneficiaries? How about a series devoted to girls having their fantasies fulfilled? "Ho, I'm Suzy Suckov, and this is my fantasy." In general, more scenes involving sex in front of an audience or crowd of onlookers. Just about everything billed as "public sex" is just sex outdoors, where no one can see. I suppose there's the thrill of maybe being caught, but, as exhibitionism, it fails Revisit some old themes that were killed off a while back: Striptease then Fuck is one that comes to mind. With a little creativity, I think we can get out of the ever-scene-is-the-same rut we're in. [Link]
moebius22 Senior Member 1528 Posts 12/09	Posted - Jul 18 2016 : 10:26PM ... Edited by - moebius22 on 7/19/2016 12:08:14 AM [Link]
bacon cheesesteak Deactivated User 247 Posts 1/16	Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 10:17AM For me, 2016 has been great. Lots of new, pretty girls doing IR and anal relatively early in their careers. Unfortunately, POV is still around but you can't have everything. [Link]
Soapy Suds Member 628 Posts 9/13	Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 12:37PM Pete Zaface wrote:.... The girls are as hot as ever, maybe hotter. The problem is that the productions are so formulaic, every scene bound by the requirements of the series it's a part of. Granted, there's only so many ways to shoot sex, only so many storylines that can be accommodated. But there are still some ideas out there that haven't been explored, and some of the sites (Amateur Allure, GirlsDoPorn) could do SOMETHING a little different -- I mean, except for the girls, virtually nothing changes. I've kicked around a few ideas before. I'll throw a few out. DancingBear was one of the few sites where I was able to believe in the spontaneity and verisimilitude of what was happening. Bring it back. How about a reverse DancingBear, where porn stars (or, hell, amateurs) are the dancers, and the customers at a strip club the beneficiaries? How about a series devoted to girls having their fantasies fulfilled? " Ho, I'm Suzy Suckov, and this is my fantasy." In general, more scenes involving sex in front of an audience or crowd of onlookers. Just about everything billed as " public sex" is just sex outdoors, where no one can see. I suppose there's the thrill of maybe being caught, but, as exhibitionism, it fails Revisit some old themes that were killed off a while back: Striptease then Fuck is one that comes to mind. With a little creativity, I think we can get out of the ever-scene-is-the-same rut we're in. Click to expand I agree with this. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 2:46PM Dancing Bear was so awful it was like anti-porn. Boner kryponite. [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 3:25PM I like dancing bear. It was different than the same old and some big facials from some of those dudes. I say bring it back as well! [Link]
Pete Zaface Senior Member 3064 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 10:12AM Or how about a casting series, or at least a few scenes, where, instead of the girl passively taking direction, she shows up with the attitude, "I'm good at this, I know how to fuck, and I'm going to show yo what I can do." [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 2:59PM Is 2016 the worst year for people bitching about porn on the ADT forum? [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 4:29PM the industry is not structured in a way to address consumer's complaints. Every studio basically looks out for themselves so what happens to the next guy is not their problem. Then you have the big studios basically ignoring consumers and forcing their products on the market...threads like this is a good way to get their attention. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 6:10PM If sex has become to over analyzed to the point that people are getting angered because someone's eyes are in the wrong direction or their feet point wrong or they are not saying the right words... or ... GASP... porn doesn't listen to one individual and make it all like that one person wants....... Well... perhaps people need to take a step back , seriously.... sex is supposed to be fun, amazing, and most of all IMPERFECT.... not so carefully stated to meticulous detail or else you can't get off...... [Link]

murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 8:23PM NO! I WAN'T IT MY WAY! If it isn't exactly what I want, it's the worst thing ever!!!!!! If all the porn producers aren't listening to ME then they aren't listening to anyone!!!!!!! [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Jul 23 2016 : 10:43PM murdock wrote: NO! I WAN'T IT MY WAY! If it isn't exactly what I want, it's the worst thing ever!!!!!! If all the porn producers aren't listening to ME then they aren't listening to anyone!!!!!!! Click to expand Lol. Unfortunately a lot of people nowafays have that attitude and not just about porn. We live in the "me" generation. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Jul 24 2016 : 12:16AM Lol. Unfortunately a lot of people nowafays have that attitude and not just about porn. We live in the ";me"; generation. Click to expand I don't think it is millenials that are the ones complaining on ADT in thread after thread unable to enjoy people having sex because they are so burned out on it that they nitpick it to death. [Link]
roost Member 56 Posts 7/15	Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 9:10AM Pete Zaface wrote:.... The girls are as hot as ever, maybe hotter. The problem is that the productions are so formulaic, every scene bound by the requirements of the series it's a part of. Granted, there's only so many ways to shoot sex, only so many storylines that can be accommodated. But there are still some ideas out there that haven't been explored, and some of the sites (Amateur Allure, GirlsDoPorn) could do SOMETHING a little different -- I mean, except for the girls, virtually nothing changes. I've kicked around a few ideas before. I'll throw a few out. DancingBear was one of the few sites where I was able to believe in the spontaneity and verisimilitude of what was happening. Bring it back. How about a reverse DancingBear, where porn stars (or, hell, amateurs) are the dancers, and the customers at a strip club the beneficiaries? How about a series devoted to girls having their fantasies fulfilled? "; Ho, I'm Suzy Suckov, and this is my fantasy."; In general, more scenes involving sex in front of an audience or crowd of onlookers. Just about everything billed as "; public sex"; is just sex outdoors, where no one can see. I suppose there's the thrill of maybe being caught, but, as exhibitionism, it fails Revisit some old themes that were killed off a while back: Striptease then Fuck is one that comes to mind. With a little creativity, I think we can get out of the ever-scene-is-the-same rut we're in. Click to expand Yeah, I really want Dancing Bear back :( One idea I had that would allow the audience aspect is perhaps to start a series where 'members of the public' are asked to watch an otherwise normal porn shoot. Basically you'd get a porn scene, plus a behind the scenes reaction from onlookers. I can't imagine you'd be adding too much to the cost of a normal shoot but you'd get an extra added slant to it. Imagine a Blacked scene where, behind the cameras are five normal women watching the scene - they've never seen anything like this live before! Could be interesting. We all know money is the issue at the moment, holding back companies. But a huge lack of creativity seems to be the other problem. Studios need to be thinking more creatively about how to get more from just a scene. Utilise the performers more, lets see their personalities. Behind the scenes footage. Keep the cameras rolling after the cum shot. Post-sex interviews. Heck, mid-sex interviews! If I was running a studio I'd be trying to squeeze as much varied content from a shoot as possible. At the very least you might stand out a bit from the crowd. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 3:26PM Canadian_Cindy wrote: Lol. Unfortunately a lot of people nowafays have that attitude and not just about porn. We live in the ";&;semi;&;&;semi;semi&;semi;me";&;semi;&;&;semi;semi&;semi; generation. Click to expand I don't think it is millenials that are the ones complaining on ADT in thread after thread unable to enjoy people having sex because they are so burned out on it that they nitpick it to death. Click to expand No, no everything is the millenials fault. Edited by - BlackSix on 7/26/2016 3:27:48 PM [Link]
Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 4:04PM MOD: Read the forum etiquette. Edited by - flash on 7/28/2016 7:33:03 PM [Link]
LPee23 All-Star Member Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. 248 Posts 1/15	Posted - Jul 28 2016 : 9:31PM I think forums like this one are an easy outlet for complaints. Fewer people will naturally post to say "thank you" when they see an awesome scene than will complain when they are feeling disappointed. Lets face it, if people see an awesome scene, they are likely to keep watching similar scenes from that site until they get off. Posting about it in a forum would likely be an after-thought. It's easy to forget to comment or say "thank you" when things are done well. On the other hand, if people are dissatisfied, like if they notice that a favorite site stops producing scenes to their liking, they are more likely to hold on to that issue. Posting about it on a forum is unlikely to change it, but that is all that people can often do. I've been guilty of it too. I know that posting about the lack of new sites featuring models peeing in really artistic photos is not going to lead anyone to go out and start a new site, but sometimes everyone needs to vent including me. I think it's important to just be aware that tons of industry people come to this forum too, and they look to it for feedback. If I were to say that 2016 is a bad year for porn, it is not because of the people hanging in there and still producing, and certainly not because of the new producers out there bucking the trend. My biggest complaint is that so many people have left the game, and of course, those people are the least likely to read this forum. They have closed up shop and are on to other things. So, for the people still out there doing good work, keep it up! [Link]
ArielBlue Member The new face of extreme hardcore 207 Posts 7/16	Posted - Jul 28 2016 : 10:40PM fredgee wrote: the industry is not structured in a way to address consumer's complaints. Every studio basically looks out for themselves so what happens to the next guy is not their problem. Then you have the big studios basically ignoring consumers and forcing their products on the market...threads like this is a good way to get their attention. Click to expand Exactly. For instance some companies are convinced consumers don't like tattooed girls and therefore they won't shoot them. Which hurts me in particular because I have a half sleeve on one of my arms, so I lose work because of it. HOWEVER clearly consumers do want to see something different than the "normal" porn. I think people have gotten bored of whats out there and want to see girls that aren't "cookie cutter" (not that there's anything wrong with looking that way). Tattoos are becoming more mainstream now and tastes are changing- it would drastically widen the pool of talent to shoot if all companies shot tattooed girls, no matter how many tattoos she had. And I personally believe that then there wouldn't be so many complaints :) [Link]
darthroc Member 754 Posts 4/14	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 1:15AM In a lot of ways porn is better and in some ways it is a bit worse. One big problem for me is that almost all of the girls that I really like quit within a year and are all one and dones. Does anybody else here have this problem? Either that or a lot of my favorite girls have trouble finding work. I guess the kind of girls I like just dont fit in with the industry. I could be wrong, but it seems like it is harder to become a star in the industry today than it was in the 90s. The only active stars that I like enough to go through the trouble of collecting their scenes that seem to be having a good career are Eva Lovia and Chloe Amour (and even she didnt really start getting her due props until this past year), and possibly Jezabel Vessir ( but her career is no where near as good as it should be). The rest are either retired, were one and dones, or they are struggling up and comers that dont seem to be gaining enough steam for various reasons, or they eventually went through a "porn make over". Now in fairness there are a lot of other girls that I objectively admire like Dani Daniels, Nina North, Romi Rain, and Alexis Adams. [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 9:37AM LPee23 wrote: I think forums like this one are an easy outlet for complaints. Fewer people will naturally post to say "thank you" when they see an awesome scene than will complain when they are feeling disappointed. Lets face it, if people see an awesome scene, they are likely to keep watching similar scenes from that site until they get off. Posting about it in a forum would likely be an after-thought. It's easy to forget to comment or say "thank you" when things are done well. Click to expand My thank you is purchasing more of their products. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 1:02PM Some of the complaints, that a performer doesn't show their feet enough or that they take their high heels off too soon or are wearing lingere or don't get naked or take their sexy outfit off too soon are obviously contradictory and incredibly nit picky. But those claiming there is all this diversity in porn aren't really convincing, I've noticed a big drop off in quality scenes with curvy women, latinas, asian and black women. There have been some promising releases though like Mason's recent Black Anal Asses so hopefully it will turn around. [Link]
ArielBlue Member The new face of extreme hardcore 207 Posts 7/16	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 1:12PM BlackSix wrote: Some of the complaints, that a performer doesn't show their feet enough or that they take their high heels off too soon or are wearing lingere or don't get naked or take their sexy outfit off too soon are obviously contradictory and incredibly nit picky. But those claiming there is all this diversity in porn aren't really convincing, I've noticed a big drop off in quality scenes with curvy women, latinas, asian and black women. There have been some promising releases though like Mason's recent Black Anal Asses so hopefully it will turn around. Click to expand I agree. The amount of diversity in the industry is shrinking. I'd rather see a tatted black/latina/ethic girl than another blonde white chick any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, blonde white girls are beautiful but consumers are bored of seeing the same thing year after year. The world is diverse so why can't porn be the same way? [Link]
fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 3:10PM The high turnover rate is the most irritating trend in porn now. It seems that would be a top issue for the industry but it continues. Also wm/bf is boring but it is the only time Black women work that is probably why they leave so quickly. Hopefully Marie Washington, Eva Quinn, Britney White some others will do Black on Black before they leave. The only answer to these problems is consumers re-structuring the industry or build a new one. [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 6:50PM there is certainly less diversity in porn. Seems like in the star crossed section 9 of every 10 girls are white and/or young and skinny.also seems like half the first page or more is people I have never heard of. [Link]
ArielBlue Member The new face of extreme hardcore 207 Posts 7/16	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 8:16PM chessmaster wrote: there is certainly less diversity in porn. Seems like in the star crossed section 9 of every 10 girls are white and/or young and skinny.also seems like half the first page or more is people I have never heard of. Click to expand Well I can't help being white and thin, but granted I don't look like the average white porn girl lol And I certainly can't argue that there's diversity when most of the AVN female performer of the year awards have gone to white chicks [Link]
ArielBlue Member The new face of extreme hardcore 207 Posts 7/16	Posted - Jul 29 2016 : 8:25PM fredgee wrote: The high turnover rate is the most irritating trend in porn now. It seems that would be a top issue for the industry but it continues. Also wm/bf is boring but it is the only time Black women work that is probably why they leave so quickly. Hopefully Marie Washington, Eva Quinn, Britney White some others will do Black on Black before they leave. The only answer to these problems is consumers re-structuring the industry or build a new one. Click to expand This happens because work quickly dies off for us new girls. People recruit us into the industry by feeding us misinformation and not telling us the whole truth. "Oh you'll make $20,000 your first month" "Oh we'll pay all your travel expenses" etc. etc. Then when we're two months in BAM!, we suddenly stop getting shoots and most girls are left in the lurch about what to do because no one ever told them how to make extra money aside from shooting. The people out here in CA only want one thing and that's how much $$ they can get from us girls. ESPECIALLY new girls. Because if an agency recruits a ton of new girls, only to have them quit porn two months later, they're still making a killing. And this happens over and over. I had to learn this the hard way. And I'm barely hanging on now. Only a small percentage of girls that come into this industry stay in it for any length of time. I'm determined to defy the status quo [Link]