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Darth-Morpheous
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Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 1:56AM
I saw the first 4 titles from DVSX. I have to say that im very impressed with this studio. The girls are hot, the action is filmed well, the tease footage is great, and the DVD quality is as good as it gets. My favorite so far is "Truly Nice Ass." It was a very good title. The DVD extras were really great. I love the Assturbations. That was a nice touch. I do however have a few suggestions for that studio.

1)hire better woodsman
2)More anal and a2m shots
3)get rid of the condoms

Some of the male talent they hire is pretty good but some just don't cut the mustard. A few good upgrades would really help. Maybe Brian Pumper, Eric Everhard, and Marc Davis could fill in. They are all among the best in the industry.

There is some great anal scenes and the action can be hardcore with some nice gapes and a2m shots but DVSX still doesn't deliver as much of that type of action that Anabolic/Diabolic, Red Light District, and Evil Angel give you. A bit more concentration on this type of action would be a great help.

I notice that there are some scenes where the male talent uses condoms. I understand the male talent's concern when it comes to contracting diseases but id rather see a scene without it. I know you will never find a condom in any scene with the above studios.

All in all I think DVSX is going to be a successful studio, but to be in the big leagues a few changes would help. I don't want to make it sound like im knocking the studio. The reason giving these suggestions is so the studio can improve on what is already top notch porn.

alex ladd
New Member

Pornvalley USA
5 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 9:30AM
I have to say , I am overwelmed by the great response we have been getting about our movies. Of coarse
BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 9:34AM
Welcome Alex.

Visit and post often!

---BIGmike, over and out!---

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 10:18AM
Alex, great to see you here! Your DVDs have been super... keep it up.
whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 10:45AM
anyone point me to their url please, I would like to see some of their output, as I have never heard or seen any of their stuff.


may the force be with you
WHITESTAR


 
aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 10:47AM
alex ladd
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Pornvalley USA
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12/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 11:02AM
Sorry about that, I went to spell check and for some reason it posted , Perhaps someone should look into that?
Anyways, As I was saying. All of us at DVSX definitely try do do the best video we can, but there is always room for improvement and we do like and accept criticism.
In the matter of the "woodsman" we are always trying out different guys, but there are our favorites , simply because they are easy to work with. Myself, I like all the guys you have mentioned and have plans to put them in our scenes. There is a lot that goes into a scene and the male certainly plays a major role. At the same time there are a lot of companies that use these same guys that will give them a great performance and unfortunately the final product will look like crap. Figure that one out.
Some girls will do anal and some girls won't , and some will do ATM and others don't and the same goes for condoms, unfortunately that's just the way it is. We will always try to give the customers the most, but the girl or her bodily functions decide on any particular day if we get Anal and / or ATM.
As for condoms, I prefer not to use them in my scenes, that's just the way I like it myself and most would tend to agree but that is not reality. In this day and age people make a choice how they wish to do a scene and we have to respect that. I will never turn down a hot girl like Phoenix Ray because she chooses to use a condom. I would at the same time not force everyone to use a condom against their will in oder to be politically correct. All of us here at DVSX respect our talent and their wishes. Not just for the sake of looking "good", a lot of these people are my friends and I will always treat them as such.
Don't get me wrong, I am in no way making excuses, I guess I am just stating the obvious. There really are a lot of factors that go into making a great scene and I wish like all of us that make these movies that every scene is perfect.
It's not all about the money with us at DVSX, it's about having a good time in every scene and hopefully it shows in the end product.
We are always trying to incorporate new ideas that you and others have. We really do love to input and support that everyone has given us.

Thanks, Darth-Morpheous

Keep a smile on your face, everyone will wonder what you are up to.

Alex Ladd

alex ladd
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Pornvalley USA
5 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 11:27AM
Thanks for the warm hello and encouragement, BIGmike and Aybesea.
Forgive me in advance if I don't post much. I Just don't tend to, not becouse I am stuck up or too busy, it's just that I am not to good at expressing my thoughts in a written matter . I'll try to get over it and post more. If you do get a chance stop by and say hello at the DVSX booth at the Jan. Expo in Vegas. If you get me talking in person, peaple say it's hard to get me to shut up.
Thanks again for all your support
whitestar
Member

178 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 11:46AM
cheers ayb


may the force be with you
WHITESTAR


constance le
Member

212 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 11:53AM
alex,

if you're using a mac, and you click any of the buttons after typing your message, chances are it will post immediately because i've had the same problem on my mac, but not on my pc. not sure why that is. also, the chatroom wigs out on my mac.

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 12:39PM
Now you're in trouble - I'm gonna hunt you down like a heat seeking missile!

See you in Vegas!

Darth-Morpheous
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1701 Posts
3/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 12:52PM
Thanks Alex. I look forward to seeing your great releases in the future. Thank you for the reply. I will keep smiling as long as this high quality porn is produced.

White Star. may the for be with you!

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 2:11PM
First off, welcome to Adult DVD Talk Alex! It's great to have another industry professional here. Many of us aren't the best at putting things into words (some of us just use more to make up for it ), so please don't let it stop you from adding something when you can.

Second, although I've been pretty impressed with the little I've seen of DVSX, the answers here just raised you up another notch in my book. It's great to hear somebody that lets the talent decide for themself on condom usage, rather than either forcing it on them or not hiring them because they want to play it safe.

So far the only complaint I can really have with DVSX is with some of their authoring. Most of it's been great, but for some reason you can't jump randomly around in the feature. You can only jump by chapters. This irks me, but since Constance has told me she's checking into it, it's something I'm hoping will disappear in the future.

Druber
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187 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 2:34PM
While I think it is nice to respect the talents joice (doing anal, using condoms) I just want to state clearly that I am not renting/buying tapes with condoms, nor with less than 50% anal. And I would wish that noone else does. (though, many porn consumers life is different of course)

I did enjoy quite a lot of your work alex ladd lately, but if I was to decide I would suggest you adapt a strict no anal=no job policy and do not use girls insisting on condoms. There are enough other companies out there for them.
Please keep DVSX raincoater-friendly!

Druber

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 2:48PM
Your recommendations make little to no sense from a business perspective. DVSX is a relatively new company. They need to produce and sell product taht appeals to as wide variety of people as possible. To limit themselves to a relatively small percentage of the overall marketplace would be foolish.

On the flip side of this argument say they actually felt you were right on the money and switched to a no condom 100% anal policy. In six months (or sooner) factions of the raincoater crowd will be demanding 100% DAPs, pissing, fisting, etc.

I think it's entirely possible for a company to produce product that appeals to a wide range of viewers. So maybe each and every release won't be your thing. That's what reviews are for.

 
constance le
Member

212 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 4:01PM
thanks drew. couldn't have stated it better myself.
3rd eye surfer
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Posted - Dec 18 2002 : 4:48PM
can we have a sakura tales#2 please.
keep up the good work DVSX.
Druber
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187 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 20 2002 : 2:53AM
Sorry, typed that too fast: no tape with less than 50% dp I meant. I actually try to avoid videos with less than all girls taking it up their ass.


Druber

Scooter
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MdR, California
46 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 5:28AM
Drew-- Not to get too far away from great porn and into a marketing lesson, but reaching the broadest range of customers is not a wise business practice. Regardless of industry (porn or non-porn) trying to serve everyone is not practical. The most successful approach is to consistently release the most compelling product in a narrow category.

To illustrate, in non-porn, you have Sears, Penneys, Lord and Taylor or any other department store that trys to serve everyone getting there asses kicked by smaller, more focused niche retailers such as Best Buy, Circuit City, Gap, Eddie Bauer, etc. Remember, being the biggest, does not always make you the most profitable. Ask ATT, United and American Airlines.

In porn, while Vivid and JKP serve the largest, but still narrow, market of clients, Max Hardcore successfully serves a different segment and Jules Jordan Prod serves yet another.

Judging from the posts, it would appear the more focused producers are the ones that have the most loyal customers that return often and spread positive word of mouth driving new business.

Let me finish by saying I appreciate and support respecting talents views and wishes. On the other hand, the reason my dollar goes to the products without condoms is that I like to be able enjoy high-risk sexual activity without putting my personal safety at risk. Probably a little too honest, but hey I also like action pictures, but probably would not attempt any of the stunts pulled off there either.

Peace,

Scooter

alex ladd
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Pornvalley USA
5 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 1:52PM
Scooter,

I have to agree with you an the niche marketing aspect. It seems that it is the most successful strategy and does develop great costumer loyalty, we have seen this ourselves in booming sales.
As for the condom issue, It really hasn't affected sales at all because we are not a condom only company I really believe that if there is an occasional scene most people don't mind or do they? What do you guys think? I guess this is one of those issues that will always linger in this business.

Alex Ladd

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Tastes so good...
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Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 2:18PM
I'm actually most impressed by companies who let the performers decide themselves rather than forcing them one way or the other. There's good points on both sides, so I think it's great when companies let the performers decide how much they want to risk their own health and welfare.
BIGmike
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Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 2:42PM
I agree with Astro,

It's always nice to see the performers choose.

Of course it doesn't bother me in the least, condom or no condom. I'd like to see a hot girl, working condom only, than a decent looking girl, working with no condom.

---BIGmike, over and out!---

Drew Black
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Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 2:51PM
I agree. I also realize that Best Buy, and Curcuit City sell a wide range of products that appeal to a broad base of consumers.

They wouldn't be doing nearly as well if they restricted their product selection to, say, items using only rear-mounted user interfaces and rear-entry connectivity. I can envison the ads now. "Come to best Buy where you won't find a single item with front dials, buttons, LEDs, access panels, or input jacks. Everything in our store takes it from the back side." I'm sure their stock would skyrocket the day this plan was announced.


astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 2:52PM
Exactly! If the performers aren't good enough to draw your attention away from a condom, then they obviously aren't that good.
Planet Sex
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Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 3:18PM
I´m curious to see DVSX and that other nice new company, Red Light District, ten years from now. I guess they must be the very first companies that, in a way, were shaped by direct contact with the fans.
 
BIGmike
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Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 3:51PM
I´m curious to see DVSX and that other nice new company, Red Light District, ten years from now.

Hopefully, they'll both still be around, and with a larger fan base. But as long as they keep their ears open to what fans want, although sometimes unrealistic, and making sure that the quality stays the same, or keeps improving, than that's all that matters.

But it is great to see new blood come in and shake things up a little, every now and again.

---BIGmike, over and out!---

Druber
Deactivated User

187 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 4:29PM
I dont get it, Alex, with whom you agree now: Me, asking you to cater for the raincoate-niche, or Scooter (pointing in the same direction, just not mentioning raincoater values)?

Druber

Scooter
Member

MdR, California
46 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 9:33PM
First let me compliment Alex and his team on Double Parked, my first but not last DVSX purchase. Gauge really looked amazing and the film rocked. Let me also compliment you on the dual VHS and DVD release schedule. Other companies would have more of my money if they were more aggressive on DVD releases.

That said let me be more specific on one point. We can run a poll on the forums to see if anyone objects to condoms. But if you truly do not believe this is an issue, release your films with mandatory condom use for ALL performers. While I believe in targeted niches, this audience would be no larger than Max's pecker.

Peace...

Scooter

constance le
Member

212 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 21 2002 : 9:44PM
sorry it wasn't clear. what we're saying is that yes we do shoot genre-specific porn. we're also saying that we do take fan input into consideration, after all, we are fans of what we shoot. we are also saying that in the grand scheme of things, even though we don't prefer it, a condom once in a while isn't gonna hurt anybody. in fact, it did just the opposite of that. it allowed me to shoot a very hot chick who enjoyed her scene a lot. you have every right to choose what videos you watch or don't watch. and the beauty of this business is that there is SO MUCH porn out there for you to choose from. knock yourself out.



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