^ Yeah, I just saw that too. I found myself thinking about this and ended up being shocked that I was actually shocked when I read it. I think part of it may have been that I just expected that any pornstar in the business now or having been in the business for the past 15-20 years would have likely avoided Ron like the plague.
In hindsight though he had some of the same traits that seem to occur with regular frequency in other abusers. Fame, a sense of entitlement, money (though I don't think he was too well off), an inflated sense of worth...
With Ron he was always tossing out the crude one-liners too so maybe in his own mind grabbing a woman was just the punchline in a joke.
Those things just seem to breed men who think the world owes them.
(Just remembering this now - in a Jurassic Cock scene that Ron did with Cheyenne Cooper the scene starts at a table outside a convenience store. The setup is that Cheyenne walks by and recognizes Ron and he invites her to join him. They eventually end up indoors and fuck. God I miss Cheyenne... But the thing I recall now, and this didn't seem scripted, is that when they're filming the outdoor part of the scene a car drives by and the passenger, a woman, recognizes Ron and call out to him. I suspect given his unique look and well-know past this happened a lot to him.)
Veronica Avluv called out Manuel and he slammed her back. https://mikesouth.com/porn-stars/manuel-ferrara-has-had-just-about-enough-of-veronica-avluvs-bs-manuelferrara-57788/
What I notice in Manuel's case with all the fake accusations, the people who jumped on the bandwagon of destroying his livelihood never come back to apologize or even admit they were wrong after a liar has been fully exposed.
What these people do instead is try to ignore it and jump on the next bandwagon. They seem to live for this drama and don't care about finding out the actual truth.
People who are presented conflicting evidence that disrupts their view can do the following thing:
1. Change the behavior or the cognition ("I'll eat no more of this doughnut.") 2. Justify the behavior or the cognition, by changing the conflicting cognition ("I'm allowed to cheat my diet every once in a while.") 3. Justify the behavior or the cognition by adding new behaviors or cognitions ("I'll spend thirty extra minutes at the gymnasium to work off the doughnut.") 4. Ignore or deny information that conflicts with existing beliefs ("This doughnut is not a high-sugar food.")
I just today I coud watch the movie of Manuel with Jenny Blighe and Ginger Banks. Maybe I am blind, but the version I've seen, there is no single sign or moment in the whole film where Jenny seems to have problems or want to stop shooting or is visible unpleasant with the situation right now at all. Okay, I don't if and how much cuttings occured or Manuel did afterwards. But rate, value or evaluate the video I have seen there is nothing, even in the veryend she smiles, and said often yes, yes on the last part of the clip. So I don't know. And Ginger, that is just the opposite. She enjoyed the whole shooting as it seems to me.
Since I'm having so much fun saying things that will come back to bite me in the IAFD thread...
Veronica Avluv is a known liar who has made false claims against Legalporno as well. She has major personal problems and should be on everybody's blacklist. Of course, now that her claims against Manuel have been proven to be false, I don't expect the usual suspects to re-evaluate her claims about anyone else... That would require actual critical thinking skills.
Again Veronica, it was a huge lesson to learn, it was wrong from me, to write on twitter as I did, but 2 weeks later after reading again my reply to her and seeing what others just like you on here, I think maybe it was a trap for me, cause I did not know her and had no idea about problems with her and of her too. Now it seems a bit clearer to me. And as I wrote, Manuel seems to be right in this issue and to LP, I don't know. She did such a lot of movies for LP, told me just because she needed the money, but I don't know. Such a shame the whole stuff around her, and in the end I still feel sorry for her.
I realize I'm late for topic but I do believe ptsd can last forever if not treated & blessed it works. I saw what Manuel did to Jenny. We all saw the text it was supposed to be vanilla. He hit her kidneys so hard and repeatedly. If that was her butt it would be insane but kidneys?
And choked her out until she passed out.
And why was she forced to be his fluffer ? That is not legal. What's wrong w Mr big man on campus, needing a fluffer?
She was paid to be on camera. Not forced to do sex off camera.
Then the over weight Manuel puts all his lazy weight on her and bites her a couple times.
What does she weigh ? 100 or 90lb? She is one of the few gorgeous girls imo to be in porn today and we lost her bc her first was max hardcore level.
I also feel it was a huge gas light planned idea to "meet my wife Kayden after I violated the hell out of you."
It was supposed to confuse and soften the blow. Gas lighting.
She is covered in urine & in pain.
A woman cannot negotiate while a COCK is inside her and a ton of people trying to get paid. Lighting, Stagliono, other actors, etc. So when he ask her in his repulsive mumble, "what can I do to you?" She is already dead. Certainly defeated with a ton of guilt due to feeling responsible for everyone getting paid.
Her words are irrelevant. We (sex workers) are used to being robotic and taking care of everyone else to the detriment of our* mental health.
Only someone who has had that pressure on them knows this. Kindly stop using the excuse it is ok bc she got paid. Jesus. I have been raped and he used a condom (fresh from prison and in state of New York at that time it was a topic always discussed: stds.) There are people so ignorant that think bc he used a condom it wasn't rape. Ok ... right. Also some use to hide evidence. I liked Manuel 15 years ago but he has changed. And all of you saying he won't see so many girls. Wrong. He is on their** no list.
The last ten years I have not heard much about him. Before that I heard from huge porn stars he smells horribly and that is one reason he is on their no list. Maybe nowadays it's due to this? Like Jenny said what do they (Manuel & Stagliono) do to girls new with zero following? Jenny has big cam following but they still ripped her to shreds.
You all can talk trash on Nick Manning for him saying silly words but he was Janine's first b/g scene and he gave her the utmost respect. She continued to do b/g after being with Nick. He is always fresh from winning body builder awards to fucking hard but does not believe in the gimmicks of strangulation, smashing face w foot, slapping and so on.
Huge mistake not begging him to come out of retirement to be Jenny's first. We would not have lost her.
Ps:. He is a creep that I had to block on social media. He is not a good person.
Oh, heck yes, Kayden Kross did an extremely racist thing with the bananas. I don't believe a word about V day and they were supposed to be painted. They would have been if that is what she wanted. This couple is so toxic and utterly disgusting. My heart goes out to the performers that had to hold the bananas (am I posting this in wrong place?)
Is James Dean still getting work ? Bree Larson outted him about five years ago on periscope. Played a scene for all in room and said this is rape or something similar. I believe it was same time another performer came fwd hence her being prompted to share. She said he was on her no list for so long until finally her agent said you have to. You two are just too famous now. Bree didn't mention any other men that were rapey. I never liked his scenes bc his slapping wasn't passionate like old (pre 2003) Nacho Vidal. I didn't like Nacho after that year. I felt all were trying to copy old Nacho and Rocco but it came off super abusive, to me, watching.
"Since our scene together took place, a lot of controversy has encircled it. This has escalated to a place that no party wants any hand in. We came together with an openness to mutual understanding with the hopes of finding where each side was coming from in order to move past this. We recognize that our biggest failure was a lack of detailed conversation before the scene, and feel that, had this taken place, the conversation today would be about how great the project was instead of where it went wrong. We all apologize for any bad experiences during and in the wake of this scene and for our failure to recognize where the other side was coming from.
Manuel apologizes for not recognizing Jenny's discomfort. Jenny acknowledges that Manuel acted with no malicious intent. Neither side denies the other's experience. We are standing down in our attacks on each other and are acknowledging that no one performed in bad faith or wanted it to go this way. We are hoping that the good that comes out of this will set an example for others moving forward. Social media wars do not end well for anyone, and we can speak to that firsthand. This blew out of proportion and pulled in third parties who were not involved, who were blamed for things they never did or said. Jenny's partner, Andy, was hurt in this, despite the fact he was not involved in the dispute and he was completely in support of the project throughout.
We are relieved to finally be able to say we bear no ill will toward each another and wish each other the best with future pursuits. Hopefully, others in the future will be able to see this resolution as an option instead of allowing attacks to continue to tear each other down.
- Manuel Ferrara, Jenny Blighe and Chris Gentile"
Basically what happened was just lack of communication.
He is ten times more famous than she and neither wanted to deal with the hateful tweets & I did read that a while back. But all the drama between them started again ** after that statement bc he hit like to some tweet that spoke poorly on her. It all started again and more people found out. I didn't find out until the second time drama occured between them. And that is when I told him he is a rapist and blocked him. I don't think he raped her but do feel it was sexual assault.
It clearly wasn't sexual assault. If I remember correctly Jenny said that everything was ok and even encouraged him to be rougher. And the fact that a lot of female performers defended him and talked about him as a gentleman who is constantly looking for the safeness of his partners says a lot.
Don't forget that fat-fuck eric john. can put his hands on women but turns into a scared little bitch when confronted by any man. How many girls has he driven out of the industry?
Why did hiv + stagliono grope Jenny & other girl ? As seen on vid where all say they look terrified. Why do we do all these expensive test if known hiv + men are going to grope you? Nothing to get revved up for a scene by being groped by Stagliono (not discussed prior). These girls do need someone to watch closely that knows their real limits since a woman cannot negotiate with a cock inside you. But I think they are not paid enough or would have this type of person that should exist.
I love watching anal scenes personally, but man, that thread and the painal thread, are bullshit. My wife and i were on the fringes of the fetish scene so one of our big things was SAFE AND CONSENTUAL. i doubt any fans of those threads give a shit about that.
I see a tv show in which some former porn actresses talk about their job...
For things I heard in that tv show...nowdays be a pornstar (thanks to internet) is a lot (but really A LOT) better than years before...today we can see (and we talk about) mainstream porn...we can find everywhere in the net...(right or not...this is not the point now...)
So...turn in theme...Those porn actresses talk about the difficult of the work...and the difficult to be paid... For example: they start a blowjob scene...after the blowjob the movie director told them ...the scene is not enough good...and that if she would be paid ...she needed to make a full sex scene...
Or other example, they started a scene , as vaginal scene, and during the movie the director told them ...that they had to do anal too...if they want to be paid...
All the porn girls I know and ones I don't but we all saw in documentaries say they loved old days because they felt like a movie star. The girls you heard I think are only current girls so they don't know what it was like to be a movie star and travel for shoots. And I don't mean to a motel down the street for shoot. They used to have huge budget regularly. Now it may be one every few years has big budget.
Good point. I forgot Brianna's x bf but assume you saw her details on tt boy interview. I admit I quit watching my favs many years ago bc they did get too rough. Nacho did. Rocco turned me off once he introduced me to Nacho but now that it's been years I am happy that Rocco seems to have a better life then many porn stars. I enjoy TT BOY'S current interviews on YouTube but don't recall his porn for some reason. I was pretty focused on Nacho only. Why does Manuel, Stagliono, James Dean and so many others still get booked as the complaints rise? I get stagliono produces and directs but does he have to grope girls? New girls know his status and are terrified. Not like he pulls this with seasoned porn babes.
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Posted - Jul 28 2021 : 7:53AM
Did the police ever look into the accusations towards James Dean? They seemed pretty serious and probable.
Add Troy Francisco and Rob Piper to that list from everything I read on twitter from girls and I keep up alot on twitter.
And while Im not saying he is abusive I know he was trying to back up the guy who runs Disciples of Desire when so many girls came out and said he was abusive. Im talking about Jax Slayer was trying to back up claims of the guy who runs Disciples of Desire in claims of being abusive. He went even as far as to say Abigail Mac is the fakest girl in porn because she was telling her story about how uncomfortable she was when she was on set. I cant think of the guys name but all Abi was doing was telling her story to back up those claims of the girls who told their story of abuse. Which I think is shame on Jax because anyone who knows and/or follow Abi knows she is extremely genuine and a total sweet, kind, and loving person. She has no reason to lie or act fake in any way.
^ I was about to post heavenpov as well. Personally I've never heard of that site before. I was going to screenshot everything cause these kind of tweets have a tendency of disappearing. But for heavenpov they actually made a separate twitter account dedicated to their abuse 😅
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Make Porn Erotic Again 1736 Posts 9/19
Posted - May 15 2023 : 1:35PM
These dudes producing this content where they punch and black women out, or make them puke, or make them eat feces, etc...who the fuck is this for?
Like, if your content is about hitting women, somebody should be running up into your spot and dealing with you. Porn is allowing people to just be awful under the guise of "kink" when it's really a combination of people that need *real* therapy and fuckheads who want to abuse somebody.
The shit (literally in some cases) is out of hand. Recording sex is one thing, punching and shitting on motherfuckers is something else.
Somebody needs to put these people in their place.
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Posted - May 15 2023 : 2:45PM
^^It doesn't help with people like Kaitlyn Katsaros perpetuating it. Now SHE is someone with a screw loose, doing videos of guys punching her in the face, sometimes until her eye stops working. I saw a clip of a video of her and a friend putting their face in and licking the seat of a fucking used portapotty. I mean who honestly gets off to that stuff, it sounds like something out of August Underground. It makes no sense to me.
I like porn and the Golden Age of Porn 1947 Posts 9/21
Posted - May 15 2023 : 3:04PM
^ Doesn't she eat shit in videos and have guys pee on her? If she and other women who do golden showers and scat porn are into it, more power to them but I always wonder are they really into this? Would they do this type of stuff in their private life? It's ok to push limits but don't just do stuff you're not into because of money.
I like porn and the Golden Age of Porn 1947 Posts 9/21
Posted - May 15 2023 : 9:53PM
I decided to look at "Dickdrainers" Twitter page and see what type of porn they do before even reading this. And it's just more hardcore trash porn. Why do they make this crap? It's not BDSM, it's creepy disgusting trash porn. I have watched "hardcore" and like some "hardcore" rough sex stuff but this stuff goes beyond Evil Angel and is more creepier than early Pure Taboo stuff. But trash like this has over 200K of followers on twitter and "so-called" soft-core studio like LustCinema has less than 50k followers. Hell, he has more followers than AdultTime. "Goons" have fucking ruined porn
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Posted - May 15 2023 : 10:56PM
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Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ... 717 Posts 3/06
Posted - May 16 2023 : 1:10AM
maybe porn should be banned lol
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Make Porn Erotic Again 1736 Posts 9/19
Posted - May 16 2023 : 1:25AM
^I don't think it needs to be banned. I think the industry needs to be very vindictive about dealing with bad actors to protect their work and preserve space for people who can do right by other humans. Vindictive!
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Posted - May 16 2023 : 2:56AM
I don't know if revenge is the right expression. But I think the industry should take accusations seriously. There have been some cases in the last few years and some studios stopped booking the particular performer and other studios said - I don't care, he is available/cheap etc. Just shows me again how unprofessional the industry is and what a legal vacuum it is.
I like porn and the Golden Age of Porn 1947 Posts 9/21
Posted - May 16 2023 : 3:58AM
Porn doesn't need to be government-regulated or banned. The industry needs a real union, self-regulation, and ethical guidelines that everybody should follow. Studios and performers should ban and blacklist abusive and unethical performers and studios. That also means not working with them for OnlyFan content. I would like if the industry to stop making so much misogynist and abusive porn but if you're going to make this crap do it ethically. It doesn't make sense that guys who have been in the industry for years don't know shit about consent and how to do BDSM and kink play ethically. Also, Fans have some blame for this. Because half of them don't care about the allegations and will gaslight stars and shield abusive male performers. Stop buying abusive male stars' trash porn!! I can safely say I haven't bought or supported any of these abusive men or studio's crap porn. But I'm sure not everybody on here can say that.
I love how this thread has gone from "support performers" to "it's the fault of trash porn" to "it might be the fault of women making trash porn" to "hopefully violence happens to people who are violent" to the self-righteousness of never having purchased trash porn but I digress...
Considering this situation has been going on for years (not just the length of this thread) and the porn industry has done very little to address the situation which has led to many performers finding mores suitable environments (like OF) to make money, I'm thinking the industry might want to implode 'cause it's rinse and repeat with them.
It kind of reminds me of the NFL that for years refused to listen or do anything about concussions.
