Some of these complaints are a bit much. Sprinkling in a few beautiful black women is not a major disruption to the site. It's as minor to me as when my favorite ice cream shop added cupcakes to its offerings. Eventually, everything needs to evolve and grow. Changes are inevitable. I'll always be cool with black and other people of color getting more opportunities to shine in any industry.
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upsux Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 21 2020 : 11:41AM
^ It absolutely is a disruption to the site, they are promoting IR content and posting anything but that should be addressed. Should they do non-anal scenes on Tushy, perhaps solo scenes on Vixen, or how about using proper lighting on Deeper - all three would disrupt the basis of those sites immensely.
No. of people that were giving them grief on social media who will now sign up to their sites - 0. Guaranteed.
No. of subscribers who will bail as the sites drift further from what they signed up for - more than 0.
No. of people that won't resubscribe because the subscription now offers less of the content they previously signed up for - more than 0.
I would also put money on the IR sites getting the short end of the stick in this development. E.g. every other female heavy threesome or foursome, which have already become rare on their IR sites alone, will now feature a diverse cast while their other sites each continue to film 20+ scenes a year of the most beautiful white chicks in all manner of mouthwatering combos.
Your chances of getting another Elsa/Rachel/Sydney sixsome or a repeat of the BlackedRaw orgy just approached zero. They will diversify the casts of such scenes in future.
You're never going to see the consistent level of high quality and unique BM/WF IR content that this site got famous for ever again, despite what the 10 sycophants in their comments section will continue to pretend.
Once again, I don't have anything against any of these women they're bringing in. I think they're hot and regularly watch their scenes elsewhere. But Blacked was the best IR site in the industry by a million miles and they've decided, for no reason, over the course of the past few years to just keep chipping away at the quality, just keep chipping away at the casting and the production style and the direction, so that the content has become so wildly hit or miss and bereft of the type of content that distinguished it from the other cheap and uninspiring sites, that it's a shadow of what it once was. And now they've decided to abandon the essence of what the site was, as well.
I can only just count on two hands the number of scenes, most of them Euro scenes, over the past 12 months that I've been looking forward to and which lived up to expectations. A few years back every couple of months would've produced the same number of home runs. And the less said about BlackedRaw the better.
They took a prize-winning formula and threw it away.
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Posted - Aug 21 2020 : 1:41PM
I'm not buying this. If they were really bothered by this "hell fire", they would've ditched the names Blacked and BlackedRaw. As of now, it just looks to me like they're putting out whatever they have left in the can. However, if the next month (4 updates) features 2+ updates featuring "non-white" girls, then I would admit that you guys are on to something.
^ Dude, these scenes are new. They're filming again. We know that. And in the 5 minutes since they've been filming new scenes they've already shot with Scarlit Scandal twice, Alexis Tae, Cecilia Lion, Romy Indy, Nia Nacci... totally non-coincidentally since they faced social media accusations over a perceived lack of diversity on their sites.
Rebranding entirely isn't practical in the short-term, if at all. Diversifying their casting is a simple and practical gesture that immediately addresses some of the accusations.
It's not going to be 2 updates out of 4 per month. It will be more frequently than previously, however.
^One scene is already too much if the site is for IR scenes. Or should non-black performers appear in AllBlack scenes? In case VMG wants diversity they have four sites for it already (Tushy, Tushyraw, Vixen and Deeper), casting all black for Blacked and BlackedRaw is going against the fetish they've dedicated these sites.
I think you guys are missing something. The site is called "blacked". As in, a white girl (or at least a non-black girl) gets "blacked" or in other words, gets fucked by black flesh (I can't think of a less awkward way to describe that - it's already an awkward name for a site).
Up until recently, it was assumed that the "blackening" would happen by black male flesh, but why couldn't it happen via black female flesh? Now we're seeing, in these threesome scenes anyway, a white girl getting "blacked" by both black male and black female flesh. So someone's still getting "blacked".
So while it's a turn, it's still staying true to their mission statement, in a sense.
(But really, all of the above isn't the important part. Whether this is a significant pivot from the original site's intention or not, the important thing is going to be whether the paying members enjoy the scenes enough to stay paying members. And I have a feeling that most members will be happy to watch black guys fucking hot girls, even if some of those girls are black.)
^^^^^^ That's semantics. We know what the site has been about since its inception and nobody that signed up for that content specifically is going to be convinced that technically whatever content they introduce still fits the description.
The porn addict sycophants that are signed up to every single site on the network will be happy with any porn, on any site, because they're paying for it all anyway. But the people that were grateful to find a high quality IR site after enduring Dogfart being the only show in town for years will recognize the further distortion of the product they appreciated.
It doesn't matter if paying members walk away once the decision has been made. They'd never walk a decision like this back. And in my experience, a business rarely responds to losing customers by improving their product. More likely, they cut corners and go chasing customers with increasingly niche content. I've never been asked why I've dropped subscriptions in the past. I've never been asked what content would make me more likely to resubscribe. If they sought to improve their product in response to customers leaving, I've never seen any evidence of it.
This would be an irreversible step away from what the site once was. And it's the people that appreciated what this site originally was who lose out, while the people that would've been happy with a Brazzers style random scene generator subscription from day one won't care what was lost.
If they really want to create more opportunity for black, Asian, and other ethnic girls, they should start up a whole new line or give them more scenes in Tushy and Vixen. I think it would be great if they did one or the other, and I would watch more scenes from those sites as a result. It would be a much better solution than diluting one of the best IR lines ever created, one which used to be among the few "halfway normal" IR sites available.
Years ago, BLACKED had a lesbian scene where Kendra Sunderland was "blacked" by Ana Foxxx. https://www.blacked.com/kendras-obsession-part-3
It was the lowest-rated scene ever to launch the site, only to be beaten recently by Romy Indy's scene.
In the early stages of business planning for VIXEN, it was imagined as a lesbian site.
And TUSHYRAW used to have a dude in spandex, with rumors there would eventually be role reversals (the girl would put on a strap on and fuck the guy). Luckily that was scrapped. Now it wants to be trueanal, and struggling.
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Posted - Aug 22 2020 : 4:58AM
Okay, I guess you're right that these aforementioned scenes have been shot recently (in the past two months). Still, though, another thing I wonder is if these pornstars, like Scarlit Scandal, did scenes for Blacked and BlackedRaw recently in part because VMG is having a hard time finding performers available to shoot amid this pandemic. Despite the fact the industry's gotten the "green light" to resume production, there are performers out there who have stated they're not comfortable going back to work, at least for the porn studios. Not to mention, you've probably got a lot of performers making a killing on self-shot content (OnlyFans, etc.) to where they don't feel the need to start working with studios again. Well, even if that's not the case, I'll take Blacked scenes with babes like Scarlit and Nia Nacci (I'm pissed her latest scene was for BlackedRaw and not Blacked!) over ones with cookie-cutter Euro babes every time.
Same here, definitely Ella Knox & Violet Myers. I like how Blacked used to put these babes in nice quality lingerie / nylons too. The IR genre has been tame for too long, almost a decade ago interracial companies / websites would have been all over these more natural, ink-free beauties - ravaging them in every which way. I miss the gonzo style and grittiness of IR from the past decade.
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Man am a bit disappointed, this is like vanilla IR porn shot in beautiful backdrops.
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Posted - Aug 22 2020 : 10:26AM
^ Welcome to the current content, Rich.
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Posted - Aug 22 2020 : 12:08PM
you guys realize there are other IR sites out there right? if you dont like the direction its going, cancel your membership and join a different site/sites
its what i did and couldnt be happier, Dogfart and Brotha Lovers are much better anyway IMO
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Posted - Aug 22 2020 : 6:18PM
I don't mind more variety on the site. Scarlit Scandal and Harley Dean are two girls I would love to see on Vixen AND Blacked.
I'm sorry for this answer right after yours that may seem related , it's not , it was related to those who disapprove of Alexis Tae e and Emily Willis or any other black woman appearing on Blacked .
As for Austin Taylor , although not my usual body type she was a more than OK performer especially in her IR scenes which were almost all of hers , I'm not sure but I thing her IR scenes were over 80% of her total possibly second only to Spring Thomas' 97%
^ I specifically asked for this kind of scenes to Blacked a few years ago
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Posted - Aug 23 2020 : 5:53AM
It isn't that black women are nonexistant, but for the purposes of these sites 'blacked' is a verb, it's something that is being done to someone else, it's an action identified purely by the skin color of the party exerting the force.
There's no reason why any other IR site shouldn't capitalize on the beautiful black women in porn who so often are overlooked, but in the case of this brand, it simply doesn't fit the narrative that the black performer is the dominant part of the scene. And yes, you could make a case, or even a scene for that matter, with an aggressive black female role but unless she is pegging the guy, she's still being penetrated and likely not the dominant partner.
It's stupid, it's only quasi-racist at best, but it's the brand.
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Posted - Aug 23 2020 : 6:26AM
There are parts of the last scene that are just white screens because that retarded lighting Kayden Kross loves goes straight into the camera. Keep this shit on Deeper.
That's your interpretation as I recall the appeal of Blacked at first was the non existence of any force nor dominance the scene were pure passion women attracked by hot men who just happened to be black .
Penetration has nothing to do with dominance and everything to do with having the initiative before and during sex for example a woman putting a dog collar and a chain on a man and having him fuck her although penetrated is hardly dominated by him (i.e. Kitty Jung in Jake Malone's Fuck Slaves). Even without going to extremes a regular woman just riding a man either in Cow Girl or reverse or just kneeling on his face and getting eaten out by him isn't in a dominated position , a passionate scene could have any kind of position during sex without a clear dominance just lust between aroused people find each other attractive .
At first Blacked was just like that nobody was dominating anybody , one of my favourite scenes on Blacked was and still is Allie Rae's first , during the set up she was talking on the phone to a friend of hers telling her about a hot trainer she met (Jason Brown) and how she was going to his place wanting to seduce him . Who's the dominant in there?
My interpretation has never been about dominance especially considering their set ups at the beginning and the fact that a lot of them were firsts . I got it like some kind of simplified concept of the saying : Once you go black you never go back , simplifying that as getting addicted to black or caught with black(ness) in one word Blacked
I don't see why this couldn't happen to white men with black women ,I mean why not ?
Im with ya on the gilf thing. I see some gilf stuff that's pretty low rent..and that's not my speed...but a woman in her upper 40s or 50s who keeps herself up? Sorta a classy older woman who knows her way around, has confidence in bed? Yeah that! I remember that blonde woman Chanel. She had I think a brief career 10 years ago. She was on Anilos and probably some others. I loved her look and personality. So its women like that.
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Yes, Chanel was exactly what we're talkin' about. I'm currently intrigued by a pretty redhead GILF Andi James. Andi has a nice, natural body. Perhaps her scenes need a bit more energy. Erica Lauren is a lovely GILF who's still attractive. Erica definitely brings energy to her scenes. Jodi West defies time. There are others depending on what age is your cut-off..
A hot, high-energy GILF would make sense for Blacked.
It's been clear for a while now that the people constantly saying they would be happy for this site to change, or actively asking for it to change, never truly appreciated it to begin with.
The notion that anybody could even ask why a site which for 6 years has near universally focused on BM/WF interracial porn, building its brand and subscriber base on such, shouldn't arbitrarily introduce WM/BF content is bizarre.
Sadly, that seems to be the way of the world today. To muscle in on and undermine things that other people have enjoyed, rather than request that what you wish to see exist on its own or seek it out where it already exists.
And when people express discontent they're gaslit with claims that the product was always like this, or that each attritional change won't impact the content they enjoyed, before inevitably being encouraged to stop watching and find another product to enjoy, when they'd been perfectly happy with this one before all the meddling began.
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upsux Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 23 2020 : 11:51AM
This isn't "at first" though, this is years after the site started and years into the transformation from 'what was' into 'what is.' The first few years of this brand were hallmarked by there being near zero aggressive or dominant sex, as you keenly pointed out. This is what made it so different from the other dogshit sites and it opened the door for IR to have more mainstream appeal since it wasn't marred by raceplay, stunt sex, and all the other bad stereotypes of the genre. Brandi Love specifically pointed this out as to why she finally crossed over and began doing IR scenes on camera despite doing IR for years in her swinging life, I believe there were others but I can't recall exactly.
I also agree, somewhat, with your thoughts on initiative and position, as a fan of aggressive women there is a dreadfully small amount of it on these sites. And while there have been some brief glimpses of that it generally devolves into the woman's head being pushed down and under for some rimming and the dynamic of the scene shifting to the dominant male. I have no issue with that on its own, but when I get to see female 'a' and male 'b' in a scene where she shows the initiative and controls the pace that happiness sours for me when her head gets dunked down or when the energy of the scene flips with the male in charge. And while we can split hairs about how it's possible that some acts aren't exerting dominance, when you're standing over someone with your hand on their head and they're eating out your ass it's pretty widely accepted that you're in the dominant position.
Your final thought is spot on as well, they have plenty of beautiful black women in their lineup and they should absolutely be cast in their network with white men, but so long as "blacked" remains a verb there is little chance of reverse casting on these sites.
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Posted - Aug 23 2020 : 11:56AM
because there is no demand from consumers to see black women in porn, hence why they get very little work
trying to artificially dictate the consumers preference as some social justice initiative is a surefire way to lose business
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While I would welcome black women with white women on Blacked because it would give us g/g porn fans something to look forward to and it would be another source of income for black women in an industry that doesn't offer them many of them. I'm not entirely sure how many existing or even potential Blacked fans would be happy with them doing those g/g videos. In some ways I would also be happy to see black women with white men on Blacked because it would be another source of income but in this case I really don't want to see white men on Blacked because white male performers already have plenty of job opportunities in the porn industry so them stealing one of the few that is purely meant for their black male counterpart would suck on multiple levels.
Many of us aren't into the whole "humiliate, use and abuse the female" scene, along with its disgusting aspects. Dogfart is a wasteland 90% of the time, too. IR is a mess right now. DF with all their gloryhole and cuck crap, dickdrainers abuse/humiliation scenes, passionless multi-dick stuff that DF and LP can't seem to produce enough of, POV junk, and other assorted clownishness take up a huge percentage of IR scenes. Blacked used to provide passionate, aesthetically pleasing IR scenes back in the good old days. Something so simple , yet it seems like there's not many remaining outlets for those who just want that.
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Posted - Aug 23 2020 : 5:26PM
Edited by - Interracial Gets Me Stiff on 11/14/2020 8:17:59 PM
^ DarkX mixes in the way the produce scenes and they have quite a lot of gonzo in their website. Also, I don't think what they put out is boring. Not all the time, anyway.
I hate to poo poo the gay viewrahip, but for me; Hell. No. I want to see beautiful women, young and older getting fucked hard. I am really not much into girl on girl scenes either. Not that girl on girl is the end of the world however.
I like the color contrast....the dichotomy. I've said this before, I miss Brittney White! God, her boobs swayingu, whether by her own moves or getting fucked? Excellent.
Yes, Chanel was exactly what we're talkin' about. I'm currently intrigued by a pretty redhead GILF Andi James. Andi has a nice, natural body. Perhaps her scenes need a bit more energy. Erica Lauren is a lovely GILF who's still attractive. Erica definitely brings energy to her scenes. Jodi West defies time. There are others depending on what age is your cut-off..
A hot, high-energy GILF would make sense for Blacked.
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Sounds like we are on the same wavelength. I can't wait to beat off to Jodi West on Blacked or Raw. Love Erica's look too. Will have to look into Andi James, thanks ! Time for some classy MILFS and GILFS to take the BBC like a woman.
Sounds like we are on the same wavelength. I can't wait to beat off to Jodi West on Blacked or Raw. Love Erica's look too. Will have to look into Andi James, thanks ! Time for some classy MILFS and GILFS to take the BBC like a woman.
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Let me correct myself, or a classy mature woman of color to a nice hard cock too.
I don't think so there's maybe less demand than other women but hot women are in demand whatever the race , remember Heather Hunter for example not only was she black but she earned a contract and stole many a cover to the white girls around because she , a black woman, was the top seller over there
I am amazed and amused how so many black men who are outraged by the very idea of the IR label and the fetish of black flesh not to mention about the sterotypes about black men are those who are especially fetished about iR and BM/WF especially refusing anything else amd especially the presence of black women on an iR site.
Take a look at the like of Nia Nacci, Kira Noir, Scarlit Scandal ,Ana Foxxx, Ivy Sherwood and I can continue for a long time
No demand? Really? those are not just hot black girls they are among the hottest in the whole Industry
Kira Noir is a sexy black woman and great performer, who appeared in Mandingo's "Mr. M" scenes. She gave all her scenes some fresh energy, mixing with both the featured girls and Mandingo, on occasion. It's a clear example that, yes, the site can go beyond the purest definition of "blacked" and still have successful content.
And it doesn't seem to be specific to anything related to Blacked as it is now , more than that you even went semantyc with the meaning of the "verb" to which you give a dominant interpretation, I just gave a different one
More than that you stated "it's the brand" , I disagree the "brand" stood out exactly because it wasn't like that , it was different from every other IR sites because even though it went on stereotypes they used high end guys rather than thugs and there was less dominance than the usual dogfart, in many cases there was none of it
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Posted - Aug 24 2020 : 2:17PM
^
"because even though it went on stereotypes they used high end guys rather than thugs".
I wonder what you're smoking. Would love to try some of that.