Ryan Ryan from Deeper should get a ticket to Blacked, for she is a honeycomb. She is hotter than the sun, and sweeter than sugar. She would break the bank, and they bring her to Blacked.
She got a Deeper video coming out with Kayden Kross on June 18th, I just hope this video is a set up for Blacked.com down the road. Since all those sites are connected to Mr. Lansky, some of those models on that site should be given a Blacked Initiation to its website. Keep your fingers crossed, Ryan may want to tried to be on it.
Big mistake, I own it. After looking up her videos, it would be a miracle if Ryan ever accept to do her first boy-girl hardcore on any interracial site. Anyway, her scenes with Kayden Kross is the bomb, it was just wishful thinking that she would do interracial scenes with a guy, especially Blacked.com. If she ever do it, i think every male viewers including me will be waiting patience for that video to dropped.
^^ It's obvious to me that Demi Sultra is the next Deeper update on June 18th. Don't know how "Ryan Ryans" came to mind when we know she's been a G/G only performer all this time. I don't even know if she still shoots regularly. Maybe you're thinking of Kenna James. I used to get Ryan Ryans and Kenna James confused a lot, but Kenna James has been shooting a lot of B/G lately after only doing G/G for awhile.
Greg Lansky is not good at getting girls to shoot for all of his sites, so don't expect it! There's a long list of girls who've shot for Vixen but not Blacked. Vixen is basically his dumping ground for girls who are vanilla.
Obviously you're right that Lansky's other brands don't have the men's cocks out on the DVD covers. But I think that simply boils down to the fact that the men play much less of role in Vixen, Tushy and Tushy Raw. With Blacked and Blacked Raw, I think more of a focus is on just who the girls are working with. So they're going to play it up a little more. I wouldn't go as far as to say they are the focal point of the box cover, but it can be intense sometimes (I own Interracial Icon 10 which has an intense cover). That said, I think it's fair to say the women remain front and center.
How are the covers any more racist than the studio itself? The entire premise of the site revolves around women having sex with black men.
There's so many reasons girls only shoot for Vixen and don't do IR. The biggest being that they're closet racists/dodgers who charge more for it, or they're waiting for the Blacked contract so they can just be a one and done and people stop harassing them. Their body, their choice. blah blah blah, if you're fucking for money anyway, a persons skin colour shouldn't matter. "Vanilla" barely scratches the surface of their motivations.
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^ So you're one of the crowd that believes every performer should do what you want regardless of their own preference? Who cares why someone does or doesn't shoot IR - there's more to it than being a racist or a dodger, and quite frankly being a racist or a dodger is a perfectly fine reason. I don't like those reasons and you may not agree with them either, but it's also not our career decision, our family/friends to live with, or our personal baggage to reconcile. If a performer chooses not to shoot IR, do anal, gangbangs, etc... they're setting the limit on their own careers and that's 100% acceptable - they owe us nothing and we owe them the same.
The scene with Sybil and freddy gong was amazing! The contrast in skin color is amazing, that's what true IR looks like! The up coming scene with Paris and Louie looks fantastic. Can't wait! Thumbs up. Blacked has been rolling.
The problem is that you think that doing interracial is like doing anal or doing gangbangs. It's not. Interracial is literally working with a black dude, fucking the same holes as a white guy would. And if women don't want to work with black men because they're racist, that's fine. But Greg Lansky and other porn producers shouldn't hire racist people because racism is not ok at all.
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You're talking out of both sides of your mouth - you say that it's okay if someone doesn't want to shoot with a black costar then in the very next line you suggest they then shouldn't be hired for work at all... so it's okay to have an opinion but you'll lose your job over it. This isn't the corporate world where spouting those kinds of beliefs can violate company policy, it's the most basic choice a performer can make - who to work with. Every model who doesn't shoot IR, regardless of the reason, limits their career options and potential fanbase. It's a choice they alone can make and the consequences, if any, are theirs alone to live with.
I'll go back to Brandi Love because there's literally no counterargument to why she waited - she didn't like the raceplay and refused to shoot IR until she was presented with a scene that would be acceptable for her personal views. She didn't wait for a bigger payday, she didn't have a revelation that it was suddenly okay to work with Joss, she didn't want to risk personal relationships being in a scene that was overtly stereotypical. So by your worldview, prior to her coming out and confronting it out of frustration with the idiotic "...why you don't shoot with black men you hatezorz?!" crowd is that she should be denied working at all? *golf clap
In the end I'd rather not have the porn industry act as the thought police or enforce anyone's bias over another. You say you'll never shoot with a black or asian performer... fine, you should still get to work with whomever you want but I won't support you as a model. The same goes, inversely, for the content they will do - like the triple anal choke sex, the vomit and piss porn, etc... it's a major turnoff for me and it's enough to personally blacklist the performers who do it. I'll never suggest they shouldn't be allowed to do it, have at it, but I also don't have to support them once they open that door and present themselves in that manner.
Her body, her choice - regardless of the reason, every time. It's the only fair way to look at it unless you presume to tell someone that they have to do something they don't want to simply so you can check a box on your fap list. I'm not sure which is more offensive.
^ That's just reality man. You're allowed to choose to be a racist but you shouldn't be hired for it. That's just reality. Now like another thread I'm posting in, I'm not gonna get sucked into another one of these "debates".
You do understand that you're basically saying that a white performers should work with any black dude they pair with with no saying just because he's black and either she does him or she's racist? Or in other words a black man can't be denied to prove she's not racist? Also what about directors and productions? Do you know there are performers who have put some of those on their no go list?
also what do you know about their private lives? I've read things over the years on this board , performers in relationship with black men in real life labeled as racist because they didn't do it on camera which was laughable to say the least
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It's all good - appreciate you sharing your thoughts, even if we disagree. :)
Here's my two cents regarding a woman performing IR. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, a woman can decide what type of scene she wants to do, she's the one doing it so as "fans" or "consumers" we can all suggest what we would like to see but that's it. On the other hand, I think we have to be very careful when it comes to the race issue in adult industry because this topic always seems to come up. Let's clarify, IR is marketed as doing a scene with a black man, if you're a Latina performer and do a scene with a white man, it's not marketed as IR even though it may very well be or even when a black woman is doing a scene with a white man, it's not nearly marketed to that degree of a scene between a white woman and black man, all you have to do is look at the buzzwords used when it's a scene with a black man and non-black woman and you can understand the difference. Could that be an issue in it of itself? The fact that it's a completely different type of vibe and is marketed differently when it's a black performer? This may even at times come at the detriment of a black man because they get booked less, not because they're less talented but because of their colour. So if not because of their race, they would be doing scenes with damn near a 100% of female performers who do B/G rather than 50% or 60% of female performers.
Some may wanna defend a woman by saying, there are personal choices when it comes to doing an IR scene, stuff like her family life, personal life, friends or significant others may have an issue with it. But at the end of the day, I look at like this, she's doing porn ANYWAY. It's not really a different genre of scene, it's just been marketed that way for all these years. A B/G scene is a B/G scene, whether the woman is Asian, white, black, latina or the guy is Asian, black, white or latino. A woman may bring up all the reasons as to why she can't do a scene with a black man but, there are no personal issues or family issues or significant other issues when it's a scene with a non-black which can be seen as a problem upon itself. The industry is very bizarre when it comes to this matter, charging more to do a scene with a black man? I mean give me a break, could you imagine charging a person of colour more if you sell electronics? I know selling electronics and doing porn is not the same thing lol, but I'm just trying to break down the mental element of charging more specifically when it comes to performing IR, it's still a B/G scene 9 times out of 10. Not a gangbang or anal with more than two performers, it's still the same thing, it's just been marketed as different. That's why I believe the practise of charging more is still done today because the genre of IR has been marketed as a "different" type of scene, which I believe, should be re-evaluated? At the end of the day, it is what it is, don't see anything changing and it's definitely up to the women as to who chooses to work with, but the question is, why is she specifically choosing not to do a specific scene under these circumstances? And what's the mentality behind it?
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Posted - Jun 18 2019 : 3:37PM
Not wanting to fuck a black person doesn't mean you're racist. Some black people don't find white people attractive and vice versa. Some people are not into Asians. Most women like tall men and avoid small ones. Etc...
I'm not into fat women, and I wouldn't fuck one even for money. Another example is a neighbor of mine that I am really into. We're both caucasians. I hit on her a few times but she told me that she only dates black men because she finds them hotter than the others.
Would you guys consider a personal taste such as hers racist ? Because I honestly don't and I was the one being rejected.
As you wrote, it's up to the woman to decide who she works with. That also means that she does not have to justify her decision and she does not have to explain it to anyone.
Those who are not able to accept that, should remember what happened to August Ames.
And that's something I understand, trust me, it's not something that bothers me to such a degree, all I'm saying is, if you don't think there's a race issue in porn in terms of discrepancy of pay, the fetishizing of certain colours, the depiction of certain elements in the adult industry, being able to CHARGE more dependent on certain colours, and just general racism at times, I think that would be disingenuous. Just imagine, someone paying you less or charging you more in your field of work simply because of your skin colour, that happens in this industry as well all know too well.
Here's the thing, anyone can refuse not to work with anyone, that's their right. That said,d the consumer has the right to not want to receive or pay for services based on that person's beliefs.
When it comes to porn, this conversation is a little difficult because the very nature of the job is to have sex. I'll say it clearly, no performer should have to work with anyone they don't feel comfortable or safe with.
But I think its fair to call out or not want to watch any performer who doesn't want to work with someone because of their race. And I think you can do that without demanding that that performer has to work with a particular individual.
I was an early fan with Alexis Texas, when I found out she doesn't want to work with black men, I stopped watching her vid/scenes. I also will stop watching vets if i notice they've never did an IR scene. As much as I love Kayden Kross, i've pretty much stopped watching her bc of that. Same as Riley Starr, bebe jones, and others.
^^ Women who work with black men don't get paid more because of the skin color of these men, but because the number of women who want to work with black men is smaller than the number of women who want to work with caucasian men. In other words, they get paid more for economical reasons. Just as some women don't do anal scenes, DP scenes or gang bangs, so those who do, get paid more money than they would get for vanilla scenes.
There are women who charge more for IR. Specifically, IR rates. Even certain companies and producers have reported this, and some of them actually oblige to paying more. I get what you're saying about "economical reasons" but it's not as black and white (no pun intended) lol as you make it. Even if there is a smaller pool of women willing to work these men, the discrepancy of pay is still kinda weird for some folks.
What if a black female performer wants to charge more to do a scene with a white male? Wait a minute, with the way the industry has always been that would be impossible.The black female performer would have NO chance of making it into the industry. This is when the hypocrisy & discrimination comes in and this topic becomes a huge problem.The wrongfully stereotypes and assumptions you're programmed into your brain about African Americans from a White/Conservative American's viewpoint growing up. Sadly this is the truth. From an unbiased person's viewpoint I can respect your full out detailed post.
Since we're discussing this on the Blacked thread, let me say this. We forget that this was Lansky's first site created in 2014. If anything from what I've observed, Blacked has made interracial pornography more beautiful and exotic looking than it's ever been compared to previous companies shooting IR scenes prior to this site being created. I can come up with many performers past and present who would have never worked with a black man without the professionalism of Blacked.
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^^ It's nice that you respect the view of a "programmed white/conservative American viewpoint", it's a polite mask but a mask nonetheless.
^ If the style and professionalism of Lansky's site (no agression or raceplay) is what propelled the popularity of the genre since it launched then wouldn't the lack of style and professionalism that it largely replaced (focus on "thuggish" imagery and heavy raceplay) be the root of why it was held back for so many years?
Or did five year's worth of female performers suddenly stop being 'racist' because of better lighting and scenery?
This is a point that I've tried to make in a few different threads now. Blacked has portrayed both the black men and white women in such a positive light that it has really opened the door for more white female performers to feel comfortable doing IR. And now you're starting to see other studios trying to copy the style of Blacked (Hard X has been around for awhile, and now you have a new series called "Blackish" that looks like a Blacked knockoff).I think the "thuggish" imagery probably kept a lot of white female performers from wanting anything to do with the genre. It's not about lighting and scenery as much as it's about presenting people in a positive light. The explosion in popularity of IR porn over the past 5 years has a lot to do with it being more accessible to people of all races.
Give us some numbers , I meant what's difference between those who do and charge more , those who do and don't charge more and those who don't, because I have the impression that the VAST majority of the white stars actually do IR most of which don't charge more for IR , and those who do usually did for ther first IR and possibly any first they did in career, but not all the subsequent scenes.
Those who actually charge more for IR for every scene are very few , the offer of women willing to do it with no extra charges is large there shouldn't even be a issue whether some girl charges more or not it wouldn't be worthy the expense nor the effort to convince them. but there's a big but though ,as it would appear from the messages on many IR sites the VERY LARGE part of self proclaimed iR fans don't want girls who do IR to appear often , they call them rethreads , they want always new faces doing a couple scenes tops then the site should move on.
They are literally enflating the demand for FIRSTS , but not only this they also consider passed those stars who already did IR for another site of even a BJ on their onlyfans/snapchat/whatever raising the value of every first IR even further and concurrently getting shocked because those extremely valuable scenes are charged more. Really?
If this wasn't enough already they keep asking the same names over and over no letting go of stars who clearly have no interest in doing IR or are even retired for years
I think that anytime a performer and in many ways her agency have the opportunity to ask for more money for a first of anything then they would be utter fools not to do it. In the same way. If they keep asking for a huge paycheck for the same thing that the performer has already done then they are likely pricing themselves out of the deal and are utter fools.
For me it as always been a numbers game. A popular performer can ask for more money for just about anything she does because she happens to be popular and that's the same thing that happens in the mainstream media. That doesn't mean that she will get it but she would be foolish not to ask. If she doesn't ask for more money on most things but definitely does on doing IR porn than she probably prices herself out of most opportunities because it doesn't matter what her feelings are on IR porn. The people who make it need to make a profit just like the ones that don't. I usually don't know the feelings of most performers on the subject of IR porn because most of them never say why they will or won't do it. The ones that tend to have racist opinions on the subject tend to talk themselves out of the industry.
As far as I'm concerned the adult business is exactly that A BUSINESS! The goal for anyone in any line of work is to earn as much money as possible so the girls in adult should be no different than anyone else! I can't stand the moral high ground people try to take, the name of the game is to get PAID! Get that money while you can. Feelings need to be put aside cuz trust me if black girls could demand more money or hold out for that big IR check they would. I saw a YouTube video where Nyomi bannx (who is black) said she charges more for IR so I ain't tryin to hear people raggin' on the white girls who charge more for IR besides if you don't think Mandingo, lex or any other of the top black male talent aren't gettin paid more than some average white dude in the biz you're crazy! So to the ladies out there....to hell with the fans who talk trash & prob don't pay for their porn anyway. GET PAID!!
Well if that's the case, should this type of thinking be extended in other lines of work? Say the movie business or modelling business? I'm just playing devil's advocate here, the performers can do whatever they want but if I was in the adult business? I'd be damned if a model wanted to charge more for a scene with me because I'm a different race. Just imagine that being told to your face? Imagine a prostitute saying she bangs white guys for 200 bucks but Asian guys, solely because you're Asian, it's 300 bucks. A bit weird wouldn't you say? Once again, she can do that, it's her choice, but I can call that shit out since it's my choice. If I was a producer, that would not fly. Standing idly by and just saying it's a business can be seen as part of the problem. All I'm saying is, there is no way in any other form of business (to my knowledge) that this stuff would fly. Yeah let's charge more for the Latinos at the restaurant, why? Because it's a BUSINESS, like you said. And the name of the game is to get as much money as possible right? I think some people who are trying to take a moral high ground and can be pretentious about it, I'm just arguing that for standard scenes, a vanilla B/G scene, the race of the individual (woman or man) shouldn't matter. Maybe besides size, there should be no difference between a scene with Manuel Ferrera and Rob Piper, other than maybe one being more "famous" than the other. It will still be a standard scene where a HJ, BJ, vaginal sex is all occurring with different positions.
Blacked should do a behind the scene, deleted scenes, alternated scenes, multiple option scenes involving sexual positions putting the power into the viewer's hand. when a scene is downloaded. The viewer could choose the scene shot that they want to see in that one particular video. In other's word, Blacked should do a multiple camera shoot where the viewer could choose the sexual position that they want to see in the video that they downloaded. HD videos would be longer extended scenes, while SD videos would shorter scenes with multiple option scenes, the other video speed mode will have option for multiple angle scenes. As a viewer, some of Blacked best video sometime end too quickly, when it should have been extended. Also, there are times when there video goes on too long, to fix both problem Blacked to do both a shorter and longer of the same video giving the viewer a choice of their liking. I think a multiple camera shoot with a combination of multiple angel shot added with a small dose of POV overhead shots to bring enhance to the sex scenes. POV overhead shot, multiple sexual position shots, and longer extend scene all together would be the bomb.
AJMAC.....It's not about feelings, emotions or rite vs wrong. It's business plain & simple! 30 seconds after a girl enters the adult biz every fan under the sun bombards her with "when are you gonna do IR?" "When are you gonna do anal?" "When are you gonna do a quadruple gangbang?" You & every other fan are the reason for the demand...so like anything else in life when the demand is high the price goes up! Simple economics! The fans only have themselves to blame, the girl charging more didn't set the market....you did! So get off the high horse and stop crying it's a business period!
I can't speak for all the fans, only myself, bombarding a chick about doing certain scene is not something I do. I don't think you're understanding what I'm talking about, I'm dissecting the practise. The fact that some models and agents CHARGE more for a scene based on a person's colour is the issue. Emotions, feelings, right (not rite) vs wrong, in the case is just pointing out the clear issue that I don't think you seem to grasp. An anal scene is a completely different scene, different expectation, different act, etc. A gangbang you say? Once again, a different scene, multiple partners, etc, etc. But when the race changes therefore the scene now "changes" you should be able to understand why some people scratch their heads. I will admit that the fans sometimes are to blame, but there's a lot of chicks in the game now today who don't "alter" the scene based on the colour, you know? A B/G scene is a B/G scene. Regardless of the woman's or man's skin colour. That's the hang up for me. It just seems weird for some people how it's represented. I used the analogy of the restaurant business and modelling business ahead. If I own a restaurant and a guy comes in, that's different than a group of four guys coming in to eat at my place. But if one guy comes in, whether he's black, white, Asian or Latino, he's still one guy. I hope that clears up the confusion. You can argue the girl charging more didn't "set" the market, but isn't she the one "setting" the price? She's the one who decides "her" own market.
But what if the female performer charges more for IR scenes? Should she banned from the business?
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Posted - Jun 20 2019 : 4:59AM
^ With that being said, there was a Porn Pool thread created a couple years ago (that used to be very busy) to debate the issue: Waiting to Shoot IR for a Bigger Pay Day
I figure this thread for Blacked.com has been derailed long enough now with this "IR debate". If you want to keep discussing the matter, how about you all do so in that thread now, huh? Just a suggestion.
Edited by - Mass Facialties on 6/20/2019 5:02:15 AM
Seriously, enough with the 'should they charge more for IR' debate.
I want to know who this next girl is going to be. They are on a roll recently, Sybil was great to see again (if you count her scene on BR).
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Posted - Jun 21 2019 : 12:43AM
Is anybody having trouble with any of Lansky's sites???
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Posted - Jun 21 2019 : 10:08AM
^ I currently have an active (paid) membership for Blacked and I am not experiencing any problems. However, in the past week, I have experienced login problems with the two Lansky sites I do not have an active membership for right now, Tushy and Vixen. Even if you do not have an active membership, you are supposed to be able to log in to your already established username/account. Currently, I can not log in to either Tushy or Vixen with my existing username. I thought the issue with Tushy was fixed a couple days ago when I contacted support, but I just tried to log in right now and I am once again unable to do so. Not a big deal for me right now, since I don't have any desire to purchase new memberships to either site right now, but I will have to contact support again to get this resolved so I can rejoin easily when the time comes.
If I had suggestions to make, I would recommand Lexie Fux from Vixen. Also, I discovered an interested girl, Katie Diamonds : https://twitter.com/2hot4phx93. She has a nice potential
^^ Recently I also had problems to log in to Tushy. Had to reset my password several times. Which only worked for one log-in. When I tried to log in again, the password was not accepted any more. Today the problem seemed to be solved.
Edited by - Anal-Porn Archivist on 6/21/2019 1:40:57 PM
Good looking scene between emily cutie and Gong. Europe has so many cuties that i have never heard of before. Never paid attention since I didn't like most male talent used over there and extreme nature of the scenes. Freddy is a winner. These beach scenes look so much better than the ones with Jason Luv. Freddy's dark complexion just works so much better than Jason in the sun and even in night scenes. The beach scenes still surprise me on how they can have sex so openly in public and not get caught or police called on them.
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Posted - Jun 21 2019 : 4:15PM
In case you all haven't noticed yet, Instagram has deleted Blacked. Yes, it was that Omid wanker again. This guy needs to be stopped immediately!
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upsux Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 21 2019 : 4:18PM
I keep seeing that name - what is he doing to get them blocked?
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Posted - Jun 21 2019 : 9:01PM
I really don't know, but somehow I guess he's an employee of Instagram, because he's too successful in deleting all these porn related accounts (most of his victims are female pornstars). If he isn't an employee of Instagram, than at least he's supported by Instagram and Twitter, because he's deleting these acounts on Instagram and harassing his victims on Twitter for almost 7 months now. I also believe that Twitter and Instagram support this Omid wanker, because I don't see any effort from their side to stop him. Especially from Twitter since I only know his Twitter profile, but his Instagram profile is a huge mystery or it would be very easy to report him and get him deleted and hopefully band from the internet.
^ I just read an article at XBIZ about how some porn people got a meeting with instagram this week to address Omid and other seemingly arbitrary account deletions.
It sounds like instagram actually heard them and took them seriously.
We'll see if there is any positive change to come from it.
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Posted - Jun 22 2019 : 5:04AM
That's very good news and I really hope that this Omid chapter will come to an end soon.
Posted - Jun 16 2019 : 4:39PM
