^ Updates were every 5 days for 5 years. Now they're every 7 days. Have you finally accepted that 5-day updates weren't part of their vision or are you still unhappy that they permanently changed the product you preferred?
Deeper does not outsource half of its production to a euro branch that produces tonally different videos than the what they produced in the past or what their current American counterparts. This site has lost a clear direction if the two branches arent even in sync with each other and arent really doing what established the brand in the first place. Then on top of that reducing the output.
I don't recall expressing a view on the frequency of updates! Just for the record, reducing the frequency of updates across VMG sites has just meant I've subscribed less frequently too!
They moved from one scene every 5 days to one scene every 7 days for COVID related reasons at a point in which nearly every studio had their output slowed or stopped all together because of quarantine. I'm not unreasonable, this was totally acceptable and better than stopping all together. That said, nearly all their contemporaries have resumes to pre-Covid release schedules. COVID is still out there, but it's barely affecting porn output anymore. It's less about whether one scene every 7 days is "enough" and more about the fact that when they moved to this schedule, they said it was temporary and now there's no end in sight.
^ Huh?!? Deeper doesnt offer what I want at all. Its a completely different site. I liked what BLACKED was offering and occasionally they offer it but half of the scenes being produced by Julia and that they have lowered their output has watered down the original vision. The original post I responded to was about how the site's direction seems aimless and me pointing out that half of their production being done by a whole different crew and style is a valid point. Respectfully I think all your counterpoints seem to be missing that point. I think they would be better off having Juila have her own site and allow BLACKED to have continuity in its style.
Never settle for downgrades. They should have gone back to five days schedules for a while. If people keep accepting that kind of stuff, soon we'll get one update every 10 days for the same price.
74 scenes a year vs 52 scenes a year. I prefer if they put more effort to each new one, make it something special. Better directors, write little scripts like Kayden does for Deeper. More exotic locations. We kind of get that now. I personally really like the Positano, Italy location.
I suppose better than beach scenes. I just think sometimes they over think things. The bright white rooms was good to highlight contrast and then you just cast solid and film with good angles. There was an elegance in the simplicity in Greg's producing/directing.I think the exotic locales and some of the plots of Julia's are unnecessary bells and whistles that detracts from a scene. Like the environmental factors of wind or lame cuckold stories delivered in broken English.
Based on that logic, I might accept the fact they lied about it being temporary if every scene now was an absolute home run. However, I, along with a large portion of this board feel like quality has downgraded since Lansky left. There was a simplicity to his locations in bright white rooms and his casting was ALWAYS excellent. You seem to care more about the scenery in porn than I do. The last thing I generally care about is locale and if anything, I find the more elaborate locations distracting/unnecessary.
Who were the two first girls in Venera's scene? I think the first one had a scene but I can't remember her name. Second one looked like Angelika Grays but I'm not sure. Last one was Sonya Blaze I know.
Edit : I found the first one it's Isabella de Laa.
At this point it sounds like you're just finding excuses for them and do not care that they're charging the same price for 22 scenes less. You also seem to imply that you can't have both quality and quantity.
We used to have that when Lansky was around. Kross isn't the answer. Her porn looks like a music video and often quite pretentious. The last Vixen scene with Mina Luxx is a good example of Deeper's bad influence on the rest of the VMG site.
I wonder how Julia grandi got so much influence or (money)? that she now controls the entire Euro production/direction and casting of a website which was once the most popular porn site (going by pornhub and xvideos data). I mean she was once a pornstar herself, how did she even reach here? Is she a part owner of VMG now or what? Or just the director and casting agent? If she's just director hired by someone else, does that mean she can be changed as well? Can someone else be hired as director, producer and casting director of Euro scenes?
Earlier, photoset on blacked used to be all natural. Now, especially in Euro scenes, both the performers are full body oiled up. I liked the old look in photos than these shiny/glossy looks which I find irritating to look at. And also as several have mentioned above that the number of scenes have gone down as well which I find disappointing as well. These are my 2 main complaints..
My only real counterpoint (which you've definitely not addressed) is that porn is now a global business and that your obvious preference for a site that's got only American production and American pornstars is no longer going to cut it. You also need to be aware that there are Blacked fans like myself and my friend Chocoloco who like the variety provided by the site as it has evolved. If you remember, his criticism was: "the Euro scenes are the only ones with decent casting every now and then. The American production casting has no vision or excitement anymore."
Yeah I agree, those scenes were more sensual and had more kissing/foreplay, passion etc than what they have now, not sure why they can't go back to that.
I addressed that by saying that they should give Julia her own brand she has a distinct set up and could have a brand with a unique look. Again somehow DEEPER can have a unified production and doesnt offload half their production to someone with a different vision.I think the flip flopping of Julia production to scenes produced in America makes the whole BLACKED brand have no vision. Lately the American casting has been pretty good and if we had consistent updates like that it would be well received.
Our personal preferences aside the numbers show that the Julia produced scenes aren't as well received. If you go to the first page of top scenes 11/12 are American produced scenes. Meanwhile if you go to first page of new updates 5/12 are Julia produced scenes and thats more or less the rate of when Julia produced scenes come out. The numbers dont add up. Half of the scenes released are produced by Julia but the scenes that are rated higher are filmed mostly by Laurent Sky in America.
At first I also hoped for Madison, but the girl in the blurred preview was too petite to be her. At the same time I'm not complaining about Haley Spades, moreover from the trailer the scene looks very promising.
I would like see soon Madison Summers on Blacked, but right now her industry status is uncertain. In late Mat she posted on Twitter she is in social media detox and hasn't posted nothing since then (other social are deleted - OF say: Last seen May 22), but she is still listed as available on her agency website, East Coast Talents (usually quite reliable and updated on models availability). I think her recently released scenes has been shot before May. I hope she is not retired. For more see her thread.
Compare to old scene blacked.com really reduced kissing and tit worship duration now it's all about huge cock and exotic locations. Need to more kissing and intimacy moments like old ones
LOL! Try actually looking at the other end of the scale.....at the twelve scenes with lowest ratings. 11 out of 12 are AMERICAN! In fact, if you look at the 40 or so scenes with the worst ratings on the site you'll find only around 10% of them are Julia Grandi scenes with the other 90% American produced. As for the 'Julia's scenes aren't as well received' comment.....I looked at all her recent scenes over the past few months. The average rating from Blacked subscribers is around 9.0. The average rating for all scenes in the site is around 8.8 so the numbers show exactly the reverse of what you are saying! As for 'vision' well Blacked is still what it was from the very start......a more artistic, high-end version of Dogfart. If you don't like what's on offer don't subscribe and leave the site to those who clearly appreciate a bit of variety!
Older scenes were rated with a different scale so its not comparing apples to apples. My previous breakdown is more accurate its comparing things more recent. Its one thing to say you like it but I think its disingenuous to say that its the same as before.There was focus on exclusives and up and coming girls and half the scenes were not on the beach.Next update looks solid though. No point going back and forth. It is what it is this site is half good and girls like the previous posters mentioned probably wont be on a soon as before because they have to farm out half the scenes to Europe.
I mean, he clearly, along with most people in this thread, liked what Blacked used to be. They're the ones that changed, so it makes sense to want to ask for the good old days back if we became fans for a specific reason that isn't being met anymore. You're the one enjoying a different experience than what the site initially promised. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that, but you shouldn't tell an OG fan to leave.
Even if you like the Euro scenes, it's hard to deny that they all feel a bit...samey. Grandi likes casting similar looking women with a similar body type. They only have 2 male talents they consistently use and neither ne wows me, which to be fair, is also an issue in the American production *cough* Anton *cough*. Plus, they all take place overlooking the ocean. That's fine for novelty I guess, but I don't watch porn to sightsee and it seems a bit unnecessary. The best setting they've ever had is the standard Lansky white room because as anyone who was a fan of the era in this thread has said, all it did was highlight the contrast of the performers.
^ The content on sites will change as time goes on. Producers come and go. Directors come and go. Each producer and director will bring their own visions with them. Cinematographers will come and go. Each cinematographer will bring their own vision with them. While it is perfectly understandable that people who like the old vision may not like the new vision, it gets old fast when people keep posting eh, I liked it better when... OG or not, there isn't a guarantee that things won't change over the years and people need to make a decision about when it is time for them to move on from one company to another. And people need to understand that people who like what VMG is producing now don't want to constantly see people whining about but I liked... better.
This is all fair, I just wish there was another company to move to that is doing what Blacked used to. I would move on if there was something to move on to. Dogfart definitely isn't the same thing. Blacked's direction change has left a hole in the industry for more artful IR stuff with passion. I still stick around because occasionally they'll still hit a home run and I love it when they do.
MOD: There was a very nice post explaining why the constant complaints about how VMG isn't like it used to be is ruining the thread for current fans. You almost immediately made one, which I have to assume is trolling. Take the next 30 days to find a new site.
MOD: There was a very nice post explaining why the constant complaints about how VMG isn't like it used to be is ruining the thread for current fans. You almost immediately made a follow up to one doing exactly that which I have to assume is trolling. Take the next 30 days to find a new site.
MOD: We aren't going to let this thread reach the level of toxicity that the Adriano thread had. If you don't like their current output, find another company. If you are thinking about moaning about what they release now don't. You'll just end up with a posting ban.
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Posted - Aug 6 2022 : 1:35PM
uh, ok, anyway... BBG scene with Gianna Dior next 😍
MOD: There was a very nice post explaining why the constant complaints about how VMG isn't like it used to be is ruining the thread for current fans. You almost immediately made a follow up to one doing exactly that which I have to assume is trolling. Take the next 30 days to find a new site.
Posted - Jul 28 2022 : 4:03PM
