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All Forums > Tech Talk > Tech Talk Forum Page 36 > Can you get a virus simply from opening an email?
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nietzsche
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5470 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 25 2007 : 10:21PM
I don't mean clicking on an attachment. Just opening and looking at the email. A friend of mine says that she read that you could. I don't see how it's possible.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Feb 25 2007 : 10:34PM
I am aware of outlook users suffering because of flaws in the program. Things which you might not consider virus is the usual was but they will execute malicious scripts which take advantage of having access to things like your address book.

Though when these problems crop up MS fixes them pretty fast

I dunno, I don't keep up on it but I have never heard of anyone who uses web-based mail get virii from it.

RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 25 2007 : 11:46PM
I don't have a clue but I'd like to hear a definitive answer from a knowledgeable person as well.
licker
Senior Member

Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic
1141 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 8:16AM
This is not my area of expertise, but here are a couple of things I have heard:

Some email clients automatically open attachments when you open the mail. The attachment could contain scripts, code, macros with viruses or spyware.

Also if your mail client is set up to automatically display HTML in emails I can imagine situations where the HTML contains or links to malware that would get run when you open it. I know some people who set their mail client to display only plain text for that reason. This could happen either with web-based email or "real" email.

Apart from the obvious ones, two standard recommendations for avoiding viruses are

1: NEVER run Microsoft Outlook
2: NEVER run Internet Explorer

K
Smitten Kitten

Cloud 9
530 Posts
2/06
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 2:11PM
You certainly could in the bad old days if you used Outlook Express. Even if you had disabled every vaguely dangerous feature in both Explorer and Outlook itself.

I don't know if any similarly exploitable flaws have been found in e.g. Thunderbird, but I'd at least make sure it doesn't show HTML content by default.

 
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 3:55PM
The general answer would be yes. It depends a lot on how you access your mail though. I think that email is still the most common means that viruses are propagated even when they aren't attachments.

jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 6:21PM
In a perfectly written mail reader the answer would be No, but none of them are perfect. There do exist attacks of various versions of various mail programs, either just from opening the mail or even just allowing it in the preview pane.

Outlook may still be willing to execute in HTML mail, which has potential problems. Future versions of Outlook will use the Microsoft Word HTML rendering engine instead of Internet Explorer's, which is not exactly a step forward for any perspective, including security.

Another issue is images. If an HTML email contains a reference to an image on the Internet then the sender can track when you read the email. Spammers love this.

In general I try to junk obvious stuff without even previewing it. When in doubt I look at the message source with command/alt-U.

licker
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Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic
1141 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 7:03PM
Thunderbird has an option to block loading of remote images in messages. You can also selectively block images from anyone who is not in your own address book.

Thunderbird also has a checkbox to enable in incoming messages. I always operate with turned OFF, i.e. this box is unchecked.

RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 8:32PM
My easy solution has always been to only use web-based mail and not to ever open anything from anyone I don't know or isn't easily identifiable from the header. The people who know me and want to get in touch with me don't make it hard to figure out who they are without opening the mail. I rarely use email anyway so that makes it even easier. I generally just open my inbox, delete everything and sign off. If I'm expecting email, I'll be a bit more discriminating.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - Feb 26 2007 : 9:52PM
Yes, but even web-based email can get you if it displays HTML messages and allows scripting of content.
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