Anyone ever tried to pull a Brandon Iron move on your girlfriend? Shoved your cock a little too far? Slappy-slappy? Forgotten your beloved ain't Ashley Blue and gone too far?
I'm curious. I wonder how much women in the real world, as opposed to X-rated entertainers/Xtreme Sex Sportswomen respond to the manuevers that adult video viewers/raincoaters/ADT'ers take for granted as normal sexual behavior?
I';ve enjoyed some of these antics well before I knew of Rocco/Brandon ... and found some girls love it and some do not. But I have a small cock. So I am probably no more threatening than a cocktail gherkin. I also have had the unusual pleasure of several submissively minded GFs (thank you the Catholic Church, for creating this through your fucked up useless patriarchal bullshit dogma, you are the best gift a dominant minded male can have in this world!!!)
and these girls have asked me to slap them around, get rough, spank them, nipple twist them, shove my dick in their faces, etc, etc. These are NICE girls, too!
Oh, and I am evil. But! What fun, because we both enjoyed it. In fact, I had to be coaxed.
Conversely, I enjoy it when the table is turned.
Anyway, I humble petition the thoughts and experiences of the ADT membership.
skronker writes: "Anyone ever tried to pull a Brandon Iron move on your girlfriend? Shoved your cock a little too far? Slappy-slappy?.......... I wonder how much women in the real world, as opposed to X- rated entertainers/Xtreme Sex Sportswomen respond to the manuevers that adult video viewers/ raincoaters/ ADT'ers take for granted as normal sexual behavior? "
I respond to it by developing a fear of performing oral sex on any guy who watches a lot of porn.
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Posted - Nov 25 2002 : 9:11AM
skronker - i don't take anything in porn for granted as normal sexual behavior. that would be like speeding down the highway at 100mph when the cops try to pull you over because that's what they do on tv.
i'm not saying i've never had rough sex, but the way you phrased the beginning of your post is kind of scary. remember that the kind of sex is discussed with the women first before they perform on camera.
That's what a safeword is for. If I ask my husband to go a little rough today, he knows it doesn't include slapping my face, and he knows we're going by my limits. He's not really into rough anyway, so...
I think I should have phrased my post a little more sensibly. What I am curious about is how the trend towards rougher sex in some recent videos may effect or influence viewers' interest in exploring similar behavior in their own sex lives. Honestly, any time I've ventured anywhere close to that realm, it's been because the other person encouraged it, and actively enjoyed themselves. But, all in all, it's a pretty lightweight version of that particularly tangent.
I like it rough now and again, not slapping and crap but a little hair pulling and banging away now and again can be exhilerating.
I don't think porn has encouraged that desire in me though. In fact. I abhor porn like that. It turns me off becasue all I can think about is degredation and wonder what made the actress make the decesion to subject herself to that.
I guess I need it to be very clear cut, consentual rough stuff for it to interest me.
Oh, good. I didn't mean to overly agitate anyone. You get home late and start free-associating ... and I'm new to the world of posting, so ... dunno, easy to get carried away with the freedom of it.
Mostly, I was curious. As I hope earlier posts indicate, I'm excited by porn where it's clearly an even scenario. I don't like watching car-wreck porn. But when a woman is into something, that excitement is what's a turn-on ...
spanx wrote: "But you got me thinking, and now I keep a cocktail gherkin fork on the nightstand. "
Obviously you're new to the dating scene, spanx. I find keeping a loaded semi-automatic within reach somewhat reassuring these days. Although I wouldn't recommend on the nightstand, if you get my drift. Not unless he's into it.
skronker, welcome to the forums, you sound like a fun guy, and I think it's important to post what you think and not just some pc crapola, so hope we didn't come down too hard on you. But between this thread and your reply in the 'Does Size Matter?' thread, which, if memory serves, was something like "If it's big enough to choke her, it's big enough", I became worried that you are, like many guys, getting caught up in what I keep hearing is a 'fantasy world' only. I will admit to having fantasies about Brandon Iron myself however. <<<<[[[[
DB -- Thanks! I'll retire my flak jacket. No, just trying to navigate between the jocular outrageousness and curatorial wit that abounds in equal measures here. Don't take me too seriously.
Are you kidding???? I pull the Brandon Iron Slap happy technique out in my arsenal with at least one girl a week!! I even repeat his statement to the girl he made on the classic Throat Gaggers #4;"OH IT LOOKS LIKE YOU BIT MORE THAN YOU COULD CHEW"!! Irons is the master at Throat Gagging;and is enjoyable to watch. We all cant all be Brandon;but we can try!And thats what I do. Ive recently put a twist to my Gaggings! I do deep tounge kissing,then slam it in her mouth. I slapp the weener on the mouth,tougue;and face;I make them whiff heavily on the auroma of the balls;and I spit luggy wads down there throats. Nasty Stuff huh? But it's all good;as long as she knows you respect her;and she is having fun being degraded to the sexual limit. Any girl I know is not ready for this;and dont even go there with them. Thanks Brandon;for inspiring me to Channel my Inner Brandon Iron.He's the Yosoki of this Art.
Last night I slapped my boyfriend really hard in the face and called him a dirty whore and he loved it. Then I attached a mop to his head and made him crawl on his hands and knees over the kitchen floor. The whole time he was gagging on a dildo. Guys love that stuff and I get housework done at the same time. It's brilliant.
WOW!!! You would never get the Tycoon crawling around with a Dildo in my mouth; but I gotta give your boyfriend credit for being so open with you;and being so kinky! I like your spirit! What a since of Adventure!!
All bullshit aside, some people use rough sex. A female friend of mine used to want slapping games. She slaps me I slap her. She also used to play games of tease me, then no. She wants me/she doesn't want me. Force her while she struggles. I think it was some form of therapy for her because of her sexually abusive past.
Yes, we play this way sometimes, but too far? No; I believe restraint and control of oneself is required before attempting to restrain or control someone else, so that's how I approach it.
I could go farther than I do, get rougher. In fact, I have been implored to on ocassion, but I don't feel comfortable and confident at or past certain plateaus of the rough sex game yet with Mrs. 60 (and it's been 14 years).
A little erotic power exchange is fun! "Too far" gets into realms of psychology, such as RobHammer described, that's beyond what I would consider "fun" any more.
Could I gratify myself with a woman who begged for it, who convinced me she is in need of such treatment for her psychological healing/well-being? Ummmm...yes, I think I could. But within the confines of my current relationship? No way. I said something about testing limits earlier; let me amend that by saying some limits are off-limits!
I'm having a dilemma right now choosing between a pair of vibrating nipple clamps (w/heat action!) or a vibrator you wear on your tongue. Slight pain is a pleasurable enhancement, but I shy away from degradation and humiliation games. Just bringing out the sincere inner wanton who begs for unnatural acts in gutter language is enough for me.
I'll watch and wank and wonder sometimes, could I do that? The slapping and spitting, no. The rest? Most assuredly; and it would be well-received, if done correctly. There lies the challenge!
I've asked for the table to be turned, but up to now to no avail. It just doesn't excite or interest her as much as the other way around, or so she says. I keep trying, though. A buddy of mine has a gf who's bi, *hot*, and "into BDSM" who seems inordinately interested in Mrs. 60 (oh, the hugs I've seen) -- maybe if my wife dominated her, she would feel more comfortable dominating me? Worth a try? Or introducing complexity into my life that I really don't need? Overload....zzzzzzzzzttt...
I just broke up with a woman because she absolutely needed to have her hair pulled during sex. After awhile, I broke down and tried it, only to be told that I wasn't pulling hard enough. Apparently, I was supposed to have a handful of hair when it was over.
Sorry, that's just not me.
Edited by - slightly_deviant on 12/30/2003 5:18:40 AM
I like my hair pulled from time to time. My husband is a wonderful, loving man, so I had to demonstrate for him (not during sex) with his own hair that it can feel like sensation, massage, urgency, and not pain. Just something nicely animal-like to put a little arch in my back.
The cause for concern though, is absolutely needing to have something every single time, being dependent and stuck on it.
Yeah, the way you describe it, I could easily have gotten into the groove and enjoyed it. It would make things a little more wild, a little more "animal".
It was the part where she wanted me to actually rip hair out of her head that went a little (ok, WAY) past my comfort zone.
The entire rough sex thing IMO needs to happen between two people who know each other (in real life, not actors and actresses). When these acts are performed out of passion it is most satisfying. In my experiences, on a "I need a quicky" night, rough sex is out of the question, but during an evening of prolonged foreplay and multiple orgasms rough sex is quite enjoyable as long as it progresses from mild to wild.
I have been exploring the roughness of sex with my girlfriend lately. When we started dating a few years ago, the sex was fairly conservative. But in the last 6-12 months we've gotten a bit more frisky. A lot more anal play and tugging on each other, which she especially seems to enjoy! I can see her get a little grin and her disposition changes. And of course, she becomes more vocal. I usually grab her hair when I'm behind her, and I don't pull harder than what I think would be tolerable. She hasn't asked me to stop or pull harder so I assume it's just fine. I also enjoy holding her neck but not choking or suffocating, just gently holding her neck. I guess it became a turn on for me when I tried it once and got a positive reaction from her. And of course I love spanking her ass during sex, I just love asses in general. Actually, I love the female body...Damn, I'm in a lovey mood.
I love this forum. Although I've lurked plenty in the last few months, the disscussion here is just too interesting to not join in on.
A lot of the rough sex in porn movies turns me off because it is always the girl "getting" it. I find it odd, that for sex to be rough only the woman gets choked, gagged, slapped etc. And the only video's that show men being somewhat domianted are the s & m ones, which many men I've spoken too say are their least liked porn movies. It is only when I have seen rough sex movies where the performers have good chemistry and it is all shown in a very natural and positive way where I feel like I want to try things. The top male porn stars that are rough such as Brandon and Rocco have a way with women (from what I have seen of them) and know that if you're going to be hard with a woman, you really need to know how to please her right back. Doing that kind of stuff is pretty intense for a woman, and I don't think that's fully realised. It reminds me of the scene in The Fashionista's where Belladonna has on a mask and two men are putting clothespins on her lips, and in the commentary she mentions how one of them didn't have a clue (he was putting the pins on the edge of her lips, which would feel awful, whereas a thicker section of lip gives a nice feeling). From what most women watch of rough sex porn it would turn them off every trying anything because it is basically a contest of circus acts to see how far the cock can go down, how much her vagina can be filled by cocks or large toys, how hard her face can be slapped; and not anout how good/turned on any of this is making the two people feel.
Well Kitty-kat, I think you've watched some of the same rough sex movies I have. I can only think of one scene in a rough sex film, the one with Rocco and Kelly Stafford in 'Rocco's Way to Love', in which I was positive that the woman got pleasure from the whole thing. Every other one I've seen, it looks like what you describe - the woman is on the receiving end of slaps, spits, gagging BJ's, chokings, and so on.
There was a porn talent agent who posted a couple of months ago about an actress that he used to represent, who did a scene with Nacho Vidal, that the agent described as the actress dominating Nacho. I've watched that scene - that's not what I saw. I watched someone being face slapped, choked twice, forced to talk with a cock down her throat, taking a hard anal pounding, and so on. Not for one minute was this woman ever in control of the action, not once.
And then the agent wondered why this actress left the porn industry after only 8 months!
This is a great thread. Just the topic alone puts a smile on my face. I try to get in touch with my inner Brandon Iron whenever possible. It's not just a way to fuck, it's a way of mind. It's having a Zen relationship with your cock, knowing that you can wield your cock to completely own a woman for an amount of time, the ability to simultaneously give and receive enormous amounts of pleasure in a controlled, calculated manner. Merging your most primal senses with your highly developed human intellect to maximize your sexual pleasure. This, my friends, is chanelling your inner Brandon Iron.
And I'm not talking about the over-the-top Slap Happy, I like it rough stuff, where a girl is geting throat fucked until her face is covered with saliva. That's a bit over the top. I'm talking about the more regular stuff, where a woman is simultaneously desecrated and respected. No jamming cocks down throats in rapid succession. Ease it in slow, and enjoy every little inch going down. Revel in it, and enjoy the gift of simply being a human male.
Nah, just gotta face up to not being a kid any more and take better care of myself.
I need to head down there and see Maw, though. I could sure use a fucking vacation. Or just some fucking would be nice. Damn ADT, damn ES, keeping me up last night when I could've gotten my first piece in weeks. I'd have been channeling my inner somebody . I'm thinking Surewood. I need to grow this beard out a bit, though, a put some pirate braids in it...
This wild man's gonna catch and sing the sun in flight for a long time yet. And with my last breath, and from Hell's heart, and all that good stuff.
As to the topic at hand, if there's anything I haven't already disgorged in lurid detail, I wonder what it might be.
Gone too far? Sure. But as we've matured, I've learned what the limits are, because when she says "Ow" and the festivities stop, it's a real moodkill; usually, it's over after that.
I was this way a long time before I knew about any of these guys.
Not to brag or anything...OK, that is exactly what I am doing....but I spoke with the king himself, Rocco Siffredi, today. It was a short conversation, but I think it inspired me enough to get things into high gear, so to speak. Lots of good stuff coming soon...promise. Six Pack gets finished tomorrow, for sure. August street date, if I can make the cover deadline by the end of the month. I am finishing this movie off with a double girl 6 pack by some top woodsmen. Details to follow once it's finished. Enjoy! Brandon www.platinumxpictures.com
Damn ES???? WTF??? Hmmm, you never told me "Should I have another beer or get some pussy" I would have definitely recommended getting pussy!!!! I vaguely remember you saying "Should I have another beer"
Now back on Topic, kinda. The entire non emotional rough sex is a major turn off for me in adult films and real life. Rough sex can be a major turn on when both parties are willing!!! It is all about getting your partner so hot and bothered that he/she is willing to do anything for the cockdown. Lick her, carress her, touch her, feel her, make her want you to absolute extreme. Tell her "You are NOT going to get my cock until I have my way with you" Ease it into her mouth and ask her..."Do you want your pussy fucked hard like this," Rub her clit as you slowly start to fuck her mouth. Then rub her clit harder and faster as you fuck her mouth harder and faster, she might gag a little but don't stop. Whoa, you get the picture.
Where are the snows of yesteryear? The ivory blossoms that bloom yet once?" Upon the vulgar earth they nestle Like forgotten flowers in spring's embrace Tomorrow is a cruel burden, its sorrow unbidden by the dawn While winter's memory floats like a dream, a frothing cum-sprinkler moistening the lawn
i'm rougher than brandon irons, the girls learn to love the abuse, it gets mixed in with the pleasure until eventually both are the same to the girl...... like pavlov's dogs
and they beg for more..... i rarely bruise them or anything though