about the other person some sites say it was a mma fighter ( she already declined this on her twitter) well i doubt that it was. i think any mma fighter would defend her of himself and not be kicked out from the house easily like she said or her statment. if i was a mma fighter i could get ko in a street fight, bout i would defend myself.
about the other person some sites say it was a mma fighter ( she already declined this on her twitter) well i doubt that it was. i think any mma fighter would defend her of himself and not be kicked out from the house easily like she said or her statment. if i was a mma fighter i could get ko in a street fight, bout i would defend myself.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 1:47PM
This has to be one of the best pics of Christy
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 2:28PM
Something that hasn't really been discussed is that if her injuries are too severe she may never work again in the adult industry.
Oh yes, *that* will be an easy sell to the jury...The arresting officers will know this well, and will know his entire record. They're going to protect themselves job #1. They'll approach him guns drawn and aimed ... and he'd better not make any funny moves.Well, we already have evidence she does a remarkably bad job of picking her guys... This is a weak part of the story. But her injuries and his tweets afterward mean no jury will ever conclude her story is false on that part alone. Bizarre yes, but War Machine will be on trial, not the friend, and all they're trying to decide is whether they believe him or her. Had he claimed from the start I-didn't-fo-it, to be in San Diego at the time, and a couple of buddies to provide alibi then the cops might be a little concerned about the case. But not as things stand now.Sometimes it happens in domestic cases. If the only evidence placing him at the scene was her testimony and that had a story of a friend nobody can believe and that friend can't be located to testify ... a jury might refuse to convict him without something else putting him at the scene. But he's already tweeting away any hope of that, and the cops don't act like there's a hole in the case...Dog isn't that dumb, nor are the cops. Job #1 is to protect yourself. Nobody moves in for the capture without a lot of backup and cover.Unfortunately while that behavior might be stupid is it also _very common_ in domestic violence cases. Cops and DAs know that people do strange things in these cases, and that someone may die if they don't act. Christy is at least the third porn girl girl involved with War Machine. Madison Parker was married to him. Come on girls, you can try do better! Nice guys may be boring but jeez look at her hospital pics.
There is something fishy in the Christy's story, if you go and look at her twitter warmachine has tagged her in a pic of her sucking his burger (photshoped) and after two days he beat the shit out of her for what reason?
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 2:52PM
war machine makes very little because he has been a preliminary fighter for his career. He has not got a big championship fight and has never been headlining a PPV. Does he make a living , yeah. But he isn't rich and based on his fighting career, never will be. Most fighters are not paid much unless they get a high profile fight or "PPV Points" if they get championship fights. Otherwise, once they pay for all their training and supplements and such, they are living regular lives from paycheck to paycheck. He is famous for being an asshole and a potential murderer or suicide case (which sadly is coming true now) and legally changing his name to something to stupid. He is not famous because he is a great fighter or potentially a world class one. can he kick the ass of regular guys in hand to hand fights, of course. But in the cage he is not a world class fighter. That is not why he became famous. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 2:55:23 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 2:58PM
It really doesn't matter if she is lying about them breaking up, or about the friend being there, or anything like that. He beat her nearly to death, and he will (if caught alive) receive serious prison time for this. Trying to poke holes in Christy's story is a waste of time because it doesn't change what he will be found guilty of. We all know she has poor judgement, terrible self esteem, and has been beaten many times before and kept taking him back. So, at this point, we all know what her problems are and she has no credibility when it comes to her relationship decisions. So, there is likely plenty of nonsense in her stories. But, that does not change what must be done with war machine. Right now, the main goal is to get this guy into the system and into a long jail term so he can not do this to other women. There will be plenty of hot chicks like Shyla Stylez lining up for the Alpha Male attitude and they need to be protected from themselves. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 3:02:07 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 3:37PM
also funny there are tweets allegedly from his brother saying that War Machine will beat the shit out of Dog if he hunts him down. This isn't about who will win in a hand to hand fight. Dog has several guys with him, weapons, restraining materials, and all kinds of stuff .He will never get into a hand to hand fight with War Machine so that kind of taunting is just fucking retarded.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 3:44PM
^^ Very well said. Now read this series of tweets: https://twitter.com/MsShylaStylez/status/499251940925386752 I'm dumbfounded. Stylez is an insensitive piece of garbage and her only response to the backlash is telling people to "fuck off."
Ah okay thanks for that earthwindfire. Going by their twitter i do not sense any animosity between them[granted i have only seen their last few tweets].Christy does retweet a few of his tweets about the aplha male crap and there is also this photo of them having sex on her twitter from july 28. On warmachine's twitter there is a recent photograph where he refers to a girl as his gf but we only see her from behind in a shooting range.Is that Christy? I have not seen any photos of them together though on her twitter for the whole month of July and August. So perhaps there is credence in her statement that they had broken up indeed although they remained friends and we should not doubt her for that and this could also mean that her having another guy over cannot be seen as cheating.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 3:54PM
That is so awesome; an epic rundown if he actually does it. I am still betting money he kills himself though.
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Let's hope that's what happens...one less woman beater in the world is always a good thing
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 4:09PM
Don't be dumbfounded. There will always be a steady stream of women that are attracted to the type of attitude War Machine has. Just the way it is. This is why I hope he either dies or gets locked up for 10+ years because he will find more women who want to be with him, and he will abuse them too. They need to be protected from themselves because they will not do it on their own.
Especially when they confuse a simple bully for an alpha male , alpha males don't need to beat people to death and rarely do violence they're just dominant naturally , actual Alpha males (or women) like Napoleon or Hitler or even Lenin weren't big guys imposing themselves beating those around them , those are called bullies, barely above the apes. Unfortunately many women confuse such violent attitude as dominance , it's not , it's just senseless violence.
There's a flipside to it, though: How many "normal guys" would get involved long-term with a woman who, let's be honest, probably exhibits pretty suspect decision-making skills well beyond just her choice of boyfriends? It takes a particular kind of "doesn't give a shit about much of anything" type of guy, and unfortunately that group probably has significant overlap with the "violent and abusive retard" group.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 5:27PM
Yes, the all kind of go hand in hand I suppose. Based on my feelings of War Machine, my interest in Christy Mack porn died the moment she got that "property of" tatoo. I had just a horrible and sick feeling the first time I saw it because I felt very strongly what this man was capable of. Just a tragic story. May be even more tragic that there are so many women that would still support and even get involved with War Machine after this "incident". He will have no shortage of women to be with after his prison term. It surprises me Shyla would tweet support because that will be a wood killer for a lot of men consuming her product. If she wants to feel this way, that is her choice, but to add it to her brand was just foolish business. I probably could never get off on her scenes again and she was one of my "top 30" of the last decade i would think. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 5:30:22 PM Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 5:31:10 PM
That's your interpretation of her tweets? Seems more like she has no time at all for girls that fall for that wannabe alpha male thing, not that she's one of them herself.
Yes very strange interpretation there earthwindfire.Shyla bascially says if your are going out with a guy who legally changes his name to "war machine" then you aren't very bright.Seems like a little trolling from Shyla but to say i cannot watch her scene because she did not give a shit about Christy is a pretty strange decision Shyla also says she has been beaten up by guys too but has never asked for any media hu ha and stuff.A lot of people seem to have gotten jimmy's rustled by Shyla on this tbh.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 5:59PM
^^Is Shyla implying, as some others have, that all or most MMA fighters beat their partners? If so, does she have data in support of this claim? Personally I still think Shyla was a great performer even if offscreen she is somewhat of an uncaring person, but I didn't even know that she was on Twitter and had I a choice I would have rather just let her work speak for itself.
^ That seems more like a comment about a guy who clearly can't draw a line between his personal life, and his professional life as a participant in a violent activity. After all, how many other professional MMA guys are seriously trying to "live the gimmick" (to take a phrase from pro-wrestling)? I don't see that as a general comment about all MMA fighters at all. Edited by - shalalin on 8/12/2014 6:32:57 PM
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 6:59PM
War Machine is what he is regardless of his chosen profession. Yes, he uses his MMA skills to threaten anyone and everyone who comes near him, but that is just his vehicle of choice. If he didn't chose MMA he would still be this type of person and use other means to abuse women and people in general. I think it is unfair to just brand MMA as the reason he is violent. He may very well have chosen this career because it fed his deepest and sickest desires, but I don't blame the sport itself. MMA would attract abusive men for sure, but they would be abusive whether MMA existed or not.
Yep. I still recall the various tweets and Facebook posts from young women along the lines of "Chris Brown can smack me around any day" in the wake of his beating of Rihanna. Depressing stuff.
also for a time WM tried to be a porn actor himself..but that idea went out the window when he knocked out Derek Hay(i believe this happened at Alanah Rae's b-day party)
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 8:25PM
Yeah, someone may have more specific details but I think he smacked his girlfriend around and some of the guys there (including Derek Hay) strongly objected and he ended up beating the shit out of several people who did not have the fighting skills to stop him. Obviously nobody would ever book him after that, nor should they. The girl stayed with him after that which is the saddest part each and every time we see this happen with War. And like I said, if he is alive after his prison term, he will find chicks willing to fuck him and he will have girlfriends and he will physically harm them. We may not hear about it unless it is extreme like this case, but it will happen. The rumors of him beating Christy were always denied but we all knew they were true. At least she has finally had the courage to admit it to some degree although I still think she is defending him as her statement almost dimished his past beatings as no big deal. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 8:27:14 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 8:28PM
War Machine has a history of blaming everyone but himself for his problems. He once wrote on his blog "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi germany [sic], worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America." <http://wmweek25.blogspot.com/> Nobody who thinks like that can be sane, As I recall, he played the victim card after he put Derek Hay in the hospital and jacked up Alec Knight at an industry event in 2009. I can't imagine thinking about anything but this girl's recovery. If she never spends another day in the adult industry, it won't matter, so long as she heals physical and psychologically. A tip of the cap to Mass Facialties for a great post. He wrote what I've been thinking. Edited by - rtj2v0a on 8/12/2014 8:29:44 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 8:31PM
I was talking to a co worker of mine last week about parenting and he was saying he is so glad he never had a daughter. The way girls are being treated by young men these days, and being indoctrinated to believe they are whores, sluts, and deserve to be controlled and knocked around, is at alarming levels. I AM NOT BLAMING PORN. But, the "easy access" for teenage boys to find abusive porn, does shape their expectations of girls when they hit their sexual experiences. When I was growing up, porn was vaginal sex with beautiful girls and a few anals here and there. The porn guys of the 80s and early 90s treated women like goddesses and had no desire to kick them and spit on them and call them every nasty name in the book. Now, a 14 year old can watch facial abuse tapes and interviews on kink.com where the girls say they LOVE being gangbanged, slapped, hit, and treated like 'the whore I am". This does shape a young man's sexual identity and his expectation of how a girl should be sexually. As such, the teenage girls feel they have to be this way in order to please their guys and conform to that way of thinking. And, as such, they accept this type of treatment as normal. The amount of girls who think they deserve and should be treated this way is alarming. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 8:35:28 PM
Neither do I, I'm just saying that it doesn't read to me that Shyla Stylez did, either. Her "I wouldn't date somebody who names himself War Machine" type comment is no different to me from saying e.g. "I wouldn't date somebody who names himself Napoleon Bonaparte The Fourth", or any other type of name that indicates some deep-seated delusion. (Actually, over nearly two decades on the internet I've developed a similar judgement system for internet handles...any username that includes something deliberately grandiose like "Master/King/Lord" etc. in a non-ironic fashion has a likelihood of well over 90% of belonging to somebody who's going to be completely useless for serious conversation. That's far from the only category, but it's the biggest one.)
Brook Haven's birthday party So he smacked her around at someone elses' home in front of a ton of people.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 8:56PM
I hope she never does porn again. Why? I can't imagine seeing her in any scene now where she gets slapped, smacked, called a whore, or any of the common porn scene things after seeing what she just went through with War Machine. We all knew this was happening but now to see the physical results right on our computer is visceral. All I hope for her is she is treated like a goddess for the rest of her life by a good man and never roughed up again. Yes, that is a longshot at best based on her demeanor and history, but one can dream can't we! The images Christy has posted were right in line with what my mind thought as soon as she got that Property tattoo. I already felt strongly he would do this to any woman he was with, and as Christy at the time was a very interesting performer it made me wretch and I never watched a scene of hers again. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 8:57:16 PM Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 9:00:24 PM
Some people like "consentual roughhousing". Read Bobbi Starr's comments about her scene with Rocco Siffredi. War Machine's attack was an entirely different thing. You don't see a porn scene depicting that kind of violence against women very often.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 9:34PM
:I hope she never does porn again. Why? I can't imagine seeing her in any scene now where she gets slapped, smacked, called a whore, or any of the common porn scene things after seeing what she just went through with War Machine. We all knew this was happening but now to see the physical results right on our computer is visceral. All I hope for her is she is treated like a goddess for the rest of her life by a good man and never roughed up again. Yes, that is a longshot at best based on her demeanor and history, but one can dream can't we!
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I get what you're saying and I'm with you in sentiment, but even if she somehow made her way back into the business, I cannot imagine Christy agreeing to do a scene like that after what she's been through. We're talking 18 broken bones and a ruptured liver, not to mention the almost certain case of PTSD that's going to follow. Another thing: we have to remember that Christy Mack is just 23 years old. To speculate on what might or might not happen to her based on a very short history seems unfair to me, perhaps because I have some experience raising a daughter who in the last couple of years went through some very tough times at that age (substance abuse, abusive men). Trust me, I was worried. But she came through it because she had a supportive family and she decided she'd deserved more out of life. I hope for a similar outcome for Christy -- and I'm very reluctant to write off someone so young. By the way, one of the reasons follow the older performers -- Lisa Ann, Julia Ann, Veronica Avluv, etc. -- is because the age of some of the girls makes me think of things like this.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 10:36PM
you missed my point you silly man. I understand consentual rough housing obviously. I was not critiquing that kind of scene nor was I equating War Machine's actions with a porn scene. My point was, that in light of what I have seen Christy Mack go through, I personally can not stomach seeing her have anything rough done to her, period. It had nothing to do with her consent, I just can't see it after all of this. I had to stop watching her scenes all together once I saw the "property of" tattoo as I feared for her life. Not because of the tattoo itself, but because it was associated with a man I believed very strongly was a risk to hurt maim or kill others (especially women), or kill himself in the course of hurting others. I felt that way about War Machine several years ago when I first heard of him and saw an interview clip. Every alarm bell possible rang in my head. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 10:45:05 PM
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 10:38PM
I doubt this person ever wants to be identified. On top of any drama it may create in his personal life, I doubt he wants to be known as the guy that didn't call 911 after he got beaten and knew Christy was potentially going to get killed.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 10:44PM
A broken down wrassler, the wife who would suffocate on her own tits if you turned her upside down, and some mooks with paint guns and miscellaneous pieces of fake cop clothing that they bought from a costume store. Yeah, the perp is sweating bullets worrying about this development, alright . . .
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 10:47PM
You are comparing War Machines skills in hand to hand combat in an individual fight with an old bounty hunter. Are you trolling? There will not be any hand to hand fighting. Dog , if he were to pursue War, will have a group of guys, weapons, tasers, various restraining devices, etc. This is not a "War Machine could kick his ass and will never get caught". COmon now. Whatever law enforcement group catches him will be prepared, in a group, and have the appropriate tools. Nobody will be saying "let's have a one on one fight to see if you go to jail. If you win, you are free". This isn't a showdown at high noon. And War Machine is sweating bullets. He knows when he gets caught he will be in prison for several years and he has already lost the only money making skill he has (his MMA Career). This isn't like the other times when Christy didn't report him so he gets away with it. Even if she forgives him, the photos have been released and the evidence has been documented and charges filed, so the courts will get him no matter what Christy does. He does not strike me as the guy with the balls to face 10 years in prison so I still think suicide is a strong option here. Or at least taking actions that will lead to 'suicide by cop" so he can fulfill his fantasy of being a persecuted martyr thinking women will feel sorry for him (this is part of his complex). He is all bad ass one on one and threatens to beat up anyone (right down to guys delivering his t shirts and not putting the boxes in the right place), but a group of guys in prison with fighting skills will not take his shit. He will either have to hide in solitary or will have his ass severely beaten. Nobody in prison will want to be friends with this guy and one day of his "alpha male" attitude will land him in the prison hospital. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 11:00:14 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 11:00PM
It was my impression that "Dog" was an ex-pro wrestler. Apparently that's wrong, and he only looks like an ex-pro wrestler. My point remains.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 11:01PM
Why do you remain on a point that is foolish. Nobody, Dog included, is going to get into a one on one hand to hand fight with War. He will be captured by a group with proper tools and devices so other than getting in a few shots, he will not escape. So why are you even making this point other than to be a troll? Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 11:01:51 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 11:04PM
Feel free to ignore anything else I post. Go back to repeating yourself ad nauseum.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 11:23PM
Ah,people who make fun of abuse are hard to ignore. Part of the problem and all that jazz. Our prisons would be pretty empty if the only way a guy could get caught is if the arresting officer could beat him in a one on one fight with no tools.
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 11:45PM
Not a fan of Christy by any means but the shit he did to her or any women he should be shot on the spot. We dont need people like this walking the streets and what he will get a couple years in jail and be back out doing the same thing over again.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 11:55PM
He is a multiple offender so I am hoping he gets 10. I hope he pleads not guilty and whines and tries to blame everyone else so the judge/jury throw the book at him. I would really be upset if he cut some guilty plea and got the 2 years you suggest. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/12/2014 11:56:07 PM
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Posted - Aug 12 2014 : 1:02PM
and we should not doubt her for that and this could also mean that her having another guy over cannot be seen as cheating.
