Did you even read her tweet before you made those statements. See in quotesShe did not mention Christy's name at all. And actually her comments are the complete opposite of "dumb". If porn gals are blowing their money on weed, expensive shoes and purses, and cosmetic operations and yet have no health insurance, they need to re-evaluate their priorities. How is that not prudent advice?
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 6:59PM
Are you really this silly? The TIMING of the comments have a lot of do with it. This is not her calling up Mack one day and giving her consultation on financial planning, saving money, and health insurance. It is her making a harsh remark while someone is in a hospital bed. Can porn girls afford health insurance, yes. Are they dumb for not getting it, absolutely. But her comments came at the wrong time and were in poor taste. And please don't say that because she didn't use the name Mack that she was referring to someone else. Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/16/2014 7:00:24 PM
And for the record I'm not saying Ms. Mack blows her money on any of those things and I believe she said herself she doesn't use drugs......I have no idea of her spending habits. Regardless, she is certainly one of porns more popular actresses and is probably paid as such.
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 7:02PM
She was supporting War when they were living together (his income is quite low because he is not a championship level fighter or having fights on UFC ppv. Fighters with War's career are making , maybe a 100 grand, but when you take out training and travel and supplements (PED's , etc) they are barely making minimum wage. That actually is one of the issues MMA journalists are getting at UFC about is how the guys not at the top are basically making slave wages after they pay all their training and travel costs. (and they all do as they are considered independant contractors unless they have a big deal with a guarantee) Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/16/2014 7:03:35 PM Edited by - earthwindfire on 8/16/2014 7:05:20 PM
Well you can speculate all you want about Dana's intent but her remark was clearly addressed to female porn performers in general, made absolute sense and was not dumb as you stated.
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 7:44PM
You should do better than intentionally being obtuse. You know she was directed it a Mack and you are just making yourself a joke by playing dumb.
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 8:12PM
The republicans argued that in a free country porn stars should be free to spend their money on weed, cosmetic surgery, expensive shoes and hand bags. If they choose not to buy health care it should be their choice. Obama thinks otherwise
Anyone giving to this fund for her medical expenses is enabling Christy Mack and in the end not actually helping her.
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earthwindfire Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 9:03PM
Assuming she is not in her hospital bed committing fraud, why on earth would it help her to not have the cosmetic surgeries needed to fix her face, broken bones, take off the war machine tatoo, and pay for the hospital visits
Not her choice of course to get beaten. However all the other choices in her life are hers and bailing her out is sending her the message that she can keep repeating these bad choices and people will prop her up. You wanna see this girl get killed, keep enabling her behaviour and bad choices. People (and I don't necessarily mean Christy so calm down) enabling bad behaviour by War Machine has caused this situation. Edited by - bumblaster on 8/16/2014 9:19:14 PM
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 9:18PM
Keeping someone with permanent visual injuries or crippling medical debt does not rehabilitate her. It is just vindictive behavior to try to prove a point. We all get the point , but jesus christ we have to keep giving women of abuse chances; we can't just throw them under the bus out of wanting to say "i told you so"
^^^ @ earthwindfire I'm not saying "I told you so" but at one point someone needs to say "I'm telling you no." Edited by - bumblaster on 8/16/2014 9:22:29 PM
well it looks like the goal is 100k and not 10k (unless it has changed) and 88 days left? i guess they will stop when it gets to 100k Edited by - oniwa1987 on 8/16/2014 9:40:47 PM
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 10:03PM
What facts have led you to conclude that victims of domestic abuse who fall into debt are more likely to avoid abusive relationships in the future? Do you have any numbers to support your theory? Percentages would do just fine.
^^^^^ Miss Mack is not solely defined by the tag "victim of domestic abuse." She is many things but none of them seem to be accountable for some of her choices as it was her choice to squander her money on cosmetic surgery (and many luxury items) and supporting an asshole boyfriend instead of getting health insurance. I am by no means saying that she needs to be in debt but I am saying she needs to pause and reflect on her choices and bailing her out is not going to create that pause.
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 10:59PM
Has she or someone representing her now come out and said she had no health insurance? When I raised this point a day ago, no one pointed to any such statement.
This one made me laugh..You completely missed the point..What bumblaster said could be applied to any person who continues to make bad life choices and the people around them don't let them face the full consequences by always bailing the out.Think about something like a kid who's parents keep getting them off every time they do something criminal or Just stupid..Sometimes the best thing for the kid is to let them Go to jail or Lose the car completely,whatever.They won't get it if they always get away with it.And really when you think about the fact that Christy Mack is into a guy who was a Violent Criminal,Before they hooked up.There is a good chance she has the attitude of a hustler ,a kinda get that money attitude.Those are the kinda of chics that are into criminal and Criminals are into them..I would not be shocked if she is using this situation for a payday..And continue to be into dudes like War Machine,,maybe even war machine himself,once he gets out of jail.
People can be pretty damn ruthless in their comments regarding this unfortunate incident with Christy, And you know damn well if it was someone they knew ( or themselves ) they would be outraged and in tears. I really hope she is ok and gets well soon. Sure I would love for her to return to porn but If she doesn't, thats ok I just want her to be happy, regardless of what she chooses I just hope she gets the love and care she needs to get through this. From this Twitter Message earlier I don't think she is returning to Porn though. ( Her comment at the bottom )
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 11:19PM
You have a rather dull sense of humor.Except that we're not discussing "any person" but a specific person, Christy Mack. Didn't you notice the title of the thread? This person Christy Mack is in a specific situation, that of a victim of domestic abuse.Ah yes. Christy quite clearly got away with it. If that's what you took from looking at the pictures of her face and reading her description of the attack, I don't know what I can do for you. In fact, Christy will be suffering the consequences for a long time to come.There is good chance that you don't know anything at all about her attitude toward life and are therefore just talking nonsense. Perhaps I should have opened by saying that, but I'll just close with it instead.
What do you think the scared straight program is based on? You want stats..haha..I suggest you learn how to think.. One more thing to consider..Christy mack has/is her own Business..Legally she has to have insurance..When you consider that apart of her business is dancing and live appearances,when she is not having sex for a living..The odds are she has great health insurance..haha
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Posted - Aug 16 2014 : 11:38PM
^Since when does Scared Straight apply to abused women? Has it been used on abused women? Has it been recommended for abused women? Is it perhaps a pathetic failure of a program which only an ignorant person would use as a positive example? Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/16/2014 11:38:39 PM
wow..Think!!!..I'm talking about the concept of showing people the consequences of their choices..that's what the program is for.. and yes they have a version of it for abused women.They even take the women to the hospitals to see and speck to other abused women like,Christy mack. The concept applies to many things like,drug use,gambling,sex addiction..the list goes on..
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 12:03AM
I agree with Dana. I also just read that the BF had beat Christy in the past. If this is true and she stayed with him, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for her. You would have thought after the first time she would have changed the locks on the door. I'm also curious to know what this fund is actually going to do. Are the donations actually going directly to paying for the necessary repairs or is it just going to up and vanish, IE she pocketing the cash and skipping out on any bills that come due?
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 12:10AM
All this bickering needs to stop !!! Can we all get along, can we get along ?
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 12:11AM
^^^Please provide further information about Scared Straight being applied to abused women. Meanwhile, here's further information about how that foolish technique has failed most of the young people who've been subjected to it. Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/17/2014 12:11:57 AM Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/17/2014 12:12:35 AM
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 12:15AM
Yes, they changed it. It was originally $10,000. If they didn't stop collecting donations when they reached the first goal, then there's no reason to think they'll stop collecting them if they reach the new goal. More likely they'll raise the goal again, which is an obvious sign that this is all based on greed more than need. There are reputable charitable organizations that can't even raise $70K in a matter of days, and here one person has managed to do just that, not for a charity, but for herself and herself only. She's not poor, not terminally ill, and probably has medical coverage. Yet, she has people coming out of the woodwork throwing thousands of dollars at her and offering her free medical services. Unbelievable! I agree with Bonnie Rotten that these guys are being played, but I'm sure they don't mind. Edited by - realtip on 8/17/2014 12:18:51 AM
I hope she just goes out and buys a bunch of pointless, meaningless things, and thanks everyone who supported her. I always laugh when i see these wishlists & funds, because most are making more money than us. Some people rather buy these people things, instead of their wives or family.
I can see divergent thinking is not something you are good at..haha Again the concept..Now you are going all into the program..haha I can see that giving the example of a program like scared straight is too much for you to think beyond the literal program and see the concept behind the program and why it is applied to many recovery programs.It working or not is not the point.I'll give you another one..AA meetings are basically the same concept without the screaming inmate..People get together and talk about how being an alcoholic has damage their life..just talking to people in a similar situation can help.What i find funny is the odds are Christy Mack is playing her fans. I find it really hard to believe she doesn't have insurance when..legally she has to have it..and what she does for a living it would be insane for her not to great coverage..
This forum is something.. Think about it.. I get mod warned in a thread when I said AJ Applegate was not giving her costar credit for a #1 release. This is a business related criticism that any working and career adult should be able to handle. Even if they disagree; yet here at ADT, you better not say something like that to a girl who posts here. But with Mack, people can say she should not get her injuries repaired just to prove a point; that she should be severely punished for her stupid decisions by either staying disfigured or having crippling debt that will cause all sorts of other life problems. Or, they can say that she is lying in her hospital bed deliberately defrauding people for medical expenses that they some how think she doesn't have (even with all the photos that have been released). So, why can people say such vile things about her? Is it because she doesn't post here? The inconsistencies with moderators, fanboys, etc are something else. I am a horrible troll it seems for questioning someones self promotion (a reasonable argument to make) ,but people can call a woman beaten to a pulp a fraud or should have to carry these injuries for life.
In the US the decision to take a case to trial is made solely by the DA (or whatever the job title for the prosecuting attorney is) Private citizens (and the police) have no say in this. Usually the DA will not move a case forward if the victim does not wish to do so since an uncooperative victim makes success less likely. But in domestic violence cases it's common for victims to want to drop the case, yet prosecutors know the very often when they do drop it the violence happens again, often worse, so prosecutors often go to trial anyway, In this case, given WM's criminal history, the severity of injuries, and the likelihood the case can be won even without her help, I'd expect the DA to move the case toward trial even if she "doesn't press charges". Keep in mind there has been no hint she won't cooperate at trial.Harri's estimate is probably within range, perhaps a little low. The "hospital bed" charge varies a *lot* based on the amount of monitoring you need and the kind you need (how high a grade of nurse, how much equipment). Add to what Harri said the possibility of brain injuries from the beating to her head and $64k for two days is not at all unlikely.
1- You obviously have a beef with Mods so why don't you hash it out with them. 2- It's clear from your second paragraph that you are dishonest and self-serving in your interpretations of what has been said in this thread. In my opinion this is worse than trolling. 3- Have a good day Sir, I'm going outside. May I suggest you do the same?
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 8:18AM
earthwindfire, you need to step away. Seriously, just don't post for a few days. You can't stop calling people names. You're obsessing. Those of you making accusations about what Christy Mack is doing with donations from people who care - Healthcare, insurance or not, is extraordinarily expensive and she can't work. Edited by - Janitor on 8/17/2014 8:34:59 AM
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 10:41AM
Why is there heat between Bonnie & Christy? They were in a Brazzers scene together last year that was really good. Is there not enough room in porn for two heavily tatted women/
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 11:20AM
^Yeah, I really enjoyed that Alice in Wonderland themed two parter they were in for Brazzers (Gia Dimarco and Lexi Belle also starred in both parts, with James Deen showing up in Part 2). Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/17/2014 1:35:48 PM
^^i don't wanta sound sexist but i think its pretty simple why they wouldn't like eachother and that because women are naturally more competitive then men and Bonnie can clearly see that her an Christy cater to the same type of porn watcher, so no Christy more work for Bonnie. But then again there could be some backstage stuff we don't know about also, so who really knows.
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 1:55PM
^^^I don't know that Bonnie has cause to feel that way. Christy Mack never did the kind of wild, rough scenes that Bonnie has become known for. Even Anal Apology, which co-starred James Deen and featured a pornstars punishment type scenario, was not at all rough and nowhere near as intense as a lot of Bonnie's scenes have been. I'd say that Bonnie's more in competition with someone like Skin Diamond than with Christy Mack, whose work was always very different from Bonnie's regardless of them both happening to have a lot of tattoos. Edited by - misspornUSA on 8/17/2014 1:56:08 PM
^ yes, Bonnie needs to worry about skin diamond because of her skills but she was afraid of Christy's carreer simply because Mack is way fucking hotter and prettier in every part of her body, face tits ass etc... envy is a bad beast, but she has to deal with it because a lot of girls are better in their look than Bonnie Rotten
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Posted - Aug 17 2014 : 2:19PM
I don't really see a competition-tat girls used to be a niche with the odd girl like Rachel Rotten being a name. The last five years or so they are becoming far more frequent as society changes & even established pretty girls like Eva Angelina have gone for the look. Girls from Burning Angel are starting to do mainstream stuff now & companies are making ink titles regularly.
^ You got it completely wrong , SHE is the webmaster here ,SHE really doesn't care about Christy coming to say hello to HER , SHE just "invited" you to let the thread cool down because it was clearly very heated The second part of HER message here , was meant for those who are criticizing Christy's fund raise ,SHE very well sympathize with a woman who has been assaulted, badly injured and prevented to work to pay the awful amount of expenses she's going to face to recover properly regardless. You should talk to HER using Thee instead of you.
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