I have no problems with OF, the way I see it performers need to make money somehow . I do have a problem with performers who want to charge you for everything. Look I have signed up to a few of these OF accounts, and at times I felt like I wasn't getting my money's worth. My issues was with two performers, I was paying $15 a month yet they never posted any nudes on their timeline. As a matter of fact they posted more nudes on their twitter then OF. I'm all for helping out performers and buying content but come on! Every day it was "tip me because I've been a bad girl" or "if you spoil me I'll spoil me, I'll spoil you back" if I'm paying for a subscription I expect to see at least one breast. So I have stopped subscribing to their OF, I will say some performers do actually post long sex videos on their timeline. If anyone is interested in which I think are worth subscribing to here would be my top 3: Nicole Aniston (post sex scenes weekly), Aidra Fox always posting nudes and videos and, Riley Reid( will post nudes and videos, she will also sell you scenes in the dm). Sorry for the long post.
Well I just went on only fans and made an account, and my experience of the website is that it is awful. I couldn't find a simple search facility to search for specific models, or genres or anything, couldn't find that anywhere.. so I'm just left looking at it not understanding how it works or how to even use it.
I've actually recently gotten into watching noughties and early 2010s porn on aebn... it's much better. A lot of stuff these days is shot too close, whereas the older ones had a lot of wide shots so you could see everything properly. And then these days there is often too many guys just blocking up the screen so you can barely see the lass, double anal obsession so that you can't just get a straight up basic anal (looking at you legalporno).. or in some cases the girl has basically just stood waist deep in a vat of lube (Adriano). It's all shiny and slippy and.. nasty.. yeah I'm more grossed out by slippy lube covered asses than a nasty pushed out anal gape (not too far no rosebud.
Oh yeah and too many girls with stupid haircuts or ridiculous tattoos, like that one girl on Adriano with a fucking tattoo of Charles Manson on her ass fuck off lass! He's an insane leader of a drug addled, pretentious, entitled cult of psychotic, murderous, social justice warriors. Everything about them was awful. They murdered a fucking unborn baby. Yeah and metal in their faces, that's nice too.. sure.
In the noughties it seems like a lot of it was more moderate.. just laid back, just loads of different genuinely hot girls taking it in the ass and gaping in hot positions, shot very well a lot of the time. Wide angles then in close for the gape. Like reverse cowgirl when it's shot too close what's the point of that, I want to see her legs spread, her feet up in the air, cock up her ass and her face all at the same time.
So yeah.. it's actually gotten to the point where I don't really like any new stuff. I still regularly check trueanal and allanal for updates to see what's new, who got Adriano'd.. but gettin' Adriano'd ain't the same as it used to be.. there's very few I can dig now.. and Kate Kennedy's never gettin' Adriano'd.. and when she finally does I probably won't dig it anyway now.
I'm not really into the concept of only fans though from my limited understanding, because I think they're just solo? I mean I want a proper fucking scene just not too many guys y'know..
^ OF has no mandate of solo only. Solo is just the most convenient and cost-effective means of doing content. There is plenty of g/g and b/g content on there.
^^ I wouldn't call your post TLDR. I agree with a lot of what you said. I think a lot of business models for OF content providers are seriously flawed where you pay a base rate on a subscription but are only offered content for more money - having to pay to be offered to pay more for content is insulting.
There have been good accounts I've subscribed to as they offer a generous amount within the base price and have offered premium some bonus content at a much more modest fee than you're typically charged for.
The most frustrating was one account where the actress (well known) advertised a scene on her Twitter page. I was interested in buying it but she or a representative insisted on pushing other scenes that had inadequate descriptions or simply didn't sound interesting instead of actually selling me what I was interested in and described no room to misunderstand my request.
That's the same thing that really irks me, the begging for tips. I don't have a problem buying a video or picture because at least there is a business transaction occurring, but the begging for tips??? How is that any different than someone begging for money on the street? Ultimately, I don't know you and the "tip me because I've been a bad girl" or "if you spoil me, I'll spoil you back" is so egotistical and lame. If a performer on OnlyFans has a "good boy" list and you tip her to get on this list, how long do you think you'll be on this list until she expects to be tipped again? Could be the next day or two.
here's my new experience on onlyfans: wont mention her porn acct name
she never sleeps/ spelling errors/ she's not a hustler type-but the chats are all for $ i was up til 430am yest chatting with 'her' she sent me msg 730am while i was sleeping-i got up 11am the active light still on-plus i know she's nice-this chat is pushy for $ so i know it's not her-instead prolly onlyfans chat center. i'm now 100% positive they have different workers chatting for tips. at 1st the questions were answered by her but now significant rapport is missing, so prolly a non eglish speaking 'chat pro' is on the other end begging for tips. i'm quitting this $ grab scam
Honestly I can't say I'm surprised. I've been following Casey now for quite some years. She is an amazing performer and such a nice person. I will give her onlyfans a try soon...
On the other hand, I had a lot of bad experiences on OnlyFans. I'm not going to mention names on here.. But not answering messages, being rude, asking for crazy amounts of money...
Nowadays my favorites on OnlyFans are Alexis Tae and Ashley Lane, great performers and very friendly girls. They are worth it.
I'm really enjoying this thread. Wish I would have got in before I got into an OF site of one of my favorite performers.
I like OF in that it gives that performer an additional source of revenue. I also like it that the star ( and she IS one ) posts regularly. Especially, since the shutdown. The $6/mo subscription rate is not terrible but I won't go so far to say that I like it.
On the flip side, not thrilled about chatting with a manager when I should be chatting with the performer. It's sad that the " manager " can't handle being exposed in our chats and plays the " respect " card. The performer would NEVER do that. Pricing is a bit uneven, especially for photosets ( that often times are previously published content ). I also am not thrilled with the " begging " or " tip me and I'll do this..." stuff. Once again, I believe it's the manager again and does not speak well for the performer.
I'm currently moving into the third month of a six month commitment ( self imposed ). As I look at the ledger, I'm averaging about $75/month. Obviously, I'm not buying all of her content because if I did, I'd be dropping $2-300/month. Kind of miss the day when her website charged less than $25/month for full access.
Am I a shiity fan for not forking out more? Oh well, is this a unique experience or are most OF sites like this?
What I've found to be really annoying is when you get bombarded by generic messages every couple of hours. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not on the site to chat, just give me the content. If it's included in the subscription, that's a plus, otherwise I'll just pick and choose what I want to pay for, but please don't send a message every morning how "wet" you are or how naughty you have been.
During the quarantine there were a couple of women who did free weeks, and tbh I can't wait until they end and I don't get those messages anymore.
And I have to agree with the praise for Casey Calvert. I don't know why I've yet to see somebody else steal her menu idea. Probably makes too much sense to do it that way. As a new subscriber you can basically get anything immediately and the videos aren't "lost" in the DMs, plus you get a decent description and know how much you have to pay to get it.
So I just recently joined OF like a few days ago. The best way I can describe it is overwhelming but in a way of its new to me so I have to get used to it. I joined three performers OF each one of them are my favorites so Im excited. Each one of them are very active and dedicated. Im too a g/g only fan but I also am interested in ts too. The one thing I hope eventually will happen is for the performers Im following will understand that my preference is g/g and not offer me in DM any b/g videos. Im finding out quickly that customs are very very expensive but if Im going to get a custom I want a g/g custom which would be worth my money if I decide to literally go for broke unless the performer is willing to be reasonable. I too expected when I joined that I would get at least some really good videos instead of just clips but I must say that Adriana (whom one of the performers Im following because she is simply the best) she does post a good amount of full videos. The other two performers Im following dont but hopefully as things get back to normal from this crisis that they can start shooting g/g again and then at a reasonable price I can purchase videos. All the performers Im following are very active and they are amazing or else I wouldnt be following them. Again its just getting used to the tipping and messaging about tipping and even wanting a certain video that is a brief clip on their homepage but not getting any mention about through DM when I mention it. Adriana so far out of the three that is the best but again its to be expected.
After hearing glowing reviews about Casey, which Im not shocked because she is truly one of her kind in this industry, I might just check her out even if its just for one month to see how it goes. Casey is one of my favorites too. So far Adriana is getting a great review for me. So if you want a great experience jump on Adriana OF because you wont be disappointed lol.
So Ill add this to the bad experience I just witness. Im trying to get into a live stream cam show for Adriana and I get in for a minute or so then it kicks me out. I log out and log back in. I even exited my browser completely and try to get back into the stream but the same message keep popping up saying "error in trying to get into live stream" or something to that effect. Im confident its not on my end because outside of not being able to get into the stream Im good. Then I was on a live stream earlier for Shyla Jennings whom Im following too and while it started off not letting me get in, I logged off and logged back in and everything worked fine for the entire show which was great by the way. So I dont know if yall have that same issue at times logging in and/or staying in a live stream cam show but I certainly had troubles with it with Adriana cam show just now and Im hoping it doesnt happen in the future but it sucks.
more people (largely women) are able to be more autonomous with their content, are able to make more money from it at an easier entry point (ie, without needing to either build a website or have someone do it for them).
They same thing happened when video cameras became more affordable.
^ It's a change, sure, but evolution has historically implied it was an improvement from something before. There is certainly an improvement in the ownership of content from the model/performer's side but the quality and frequency of content are very much debatable in terms of whether OF is an improvement. My biggest criticism of OF is the lack of transparency outside the paywall as you can have a profile where it has lots of videos listed within the subscription but these can be less than 10 seconds long to make up numbers. Likewise, you can be offered premium content where they're working with performers you aren't keen on but the video description is less than detailed.
I welcome porn performers having more ownership of their content but I think the standards of content production have to increase with it.
^ Yep you nailed it. I'd happily purchase OF subs from my favorite performers if detailed descriptions of whatever is being offered is provided. Fuck a mystery box. The exceptions for me that I might consider taking a chance on would be those whose performances are known to be levels above the average porn star (Proxy Paige, Megan Inky, Casey Calvert, Siswet19, Anna DeVille etc.). I'd just rather not be tricked into paying for a bunch of 10 minute 480p video clips featuring vanilla content.
Again, check out Casey Calvert. Complete menu for her vids, and each little DM vid tells you exactly what is in it and how long it is. Class act!! My money has been well spent. I inquired about customs, but that is some serious scratch. I just don't have that kind of dough, I wish I did, because if I had it, I know she would deliver.
Ok so Ive been on OF for a few weeks now and Ive sorta gotten used to things now. Although Im finding little things about it that I have to learn about. For example, I subscribed to one performer (I wont mention her name), but I asked about a scene with her and another girl and she said $25 so I paid for it. Come to find out she already posted the video in the DM but didnt mention the name of the girl so I just assumed it was someone different and the scene was like $6.99 and I paid for it. So I basically spent over $30 for the same scene when in reality I shouldve only just spent $6.99 but I was my fault. Im not going to blame her for it. She still is amazing although I wish she did cam shows plus her subscription is free for a month and she gave me a discount on one of her vids that I have been wanting to see forever even before I joined her OF.
Another thing Im noticing about OF is just performers are different. Like I got one video from a performer for what a total of like $12 because again she posted the entire video (two parts) in the DMs that the other performer who was in the same video didnt post it in the DM so if I wouldve asked her Im sure she wouldve wanted $25 which again Im not complaining its just what Im seeing and how different performers do things. At the same time that performer who wouldve asked for like $25 for the same video she also gives like free content if you keep your auto re-bill on as the new month gets closer and I have yet to see other performers that I have subscribed too do that. Oh and her customs are great and she delivers them very fast. Like she said she did 24 customs in one day. She did mine and delivered it to me the same day and gave me a naughty shower video to hold me until I got my custom. So yeah again my experience with OF has been something new that was overwhelming at first but Im starting to get used to it and its been fun.
I will say that OF will give you content that you wont see from studios. For example, I subscribed to Sinn Sage OF and Ive never seen her squirt before in a studio but she squirts with her own content because she uses the hitachi and she has said she squirts almost 100% of the time with the hitachi. So its a pleasant surprise to see content like that. I love the way her OF is set up too. You can buy stuff from her site which you dont have to sign up you just get put your name and email then get what you want then it takes you to another page to put your card info in to buy it and you go back to her site and can watch and/or download her videos. Its rather simple and her cam shows look really good even though I havent actually been to one Ive seen them in the archives and again like look really good.
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I'm all for performers making money for themselves and having more control over their livelihood. That being said OnlyFans is just not a good service. The infinite scrolling is horrible. Why not have page numbers so you can reliably find old posts? Yea you can bookmark things or whatever but why hide a bunch of old (sometimes great) content you have to dig or search for? Also there have been 3 times when their servers crapped out and could barely show 5 seconds of a video I had just paid for before it would crash and I'd have to reload. Or give up and go to my desktop machine. God forbid you had infinitely scrolled down a few hundred posts to find something you liked. And not being able to download something you purchase might be good for fighting piracy but it gets old, being tethered to Onlyfans is a big drawback.
That being said I think the end result will be more models "retiring" earlier cause once you get a fan base, you can make a good living camming/customs/Onlyfans/manyvids. But we'll also see more girls getting into the industry via onlyfans/pornhub profiles. My hope is that more of them will see the value in hiring a third party camera person and having some decent lighting. Imagine if Mason or Jules or whoever your fav director is, would be hired by these talents to properly make quality stuff...and don't even get me started on the ladies with their boyfriends as the "talent" 👍
The reality is the successful directors are the ones with the singular vision, that's why they have mostly consistent product quality people will pay for. Invest in your product and people will stick around longer.
^anyone with decent following is making $10k+/ a month easily and the more popular ones are $50k+ a month, i wont be surprised if someone like riley reid is making 1 million a year from Onlyfans and fancentro
^If these numbers are true, then Onlyfans is making a Shit Ton of money. Surely they can afford to make their website work smoother/better and navigate better.
If Riley (or any of the big starts on the platform) were making that much money off of it they would never shoot mainstream porn again. Just because you have 10 times the following on social media doesn't mean you have ten times the subscribers.
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It's just a given that it'll catch up. That's the nature of anything new in the hands of amateurs. When musicians first had the means for affordable home recording, DIY sounded a lot like crap, but technology, trial and error, and perfectionism eventually got it caught up. Same thing with Amateur Porn or even Internet Porn in general... geez, when I look at old clips from the early days of porn, especially from Home CAMS, it's like 'how the fuck did I fap to this?'
It was what we had - it got better.
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Posted - May 16 2020 : 3:46PM
^ nope not happening. they have realized that they can make lots of money by just posting these small amateurish pics and clips, and spending money on professional shoot, cam, editing etc doesnt really make them that extra to justify it. because if it did more girls would have been posting professional content on their OF. i mean this platform is 3 years old now, not new anymore.
and in case you havent realized it by now, Onlyfans businness model isnt about providing good quality content for a decent price. tt is about luring horny guys in and then making them spend as much money as they can....their team most likely dont sit in a meeting room to discuss how to make their site better, but to come up with the ideas on how to make horny lonely guys spend lots and lots of money.
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Posted - May 16 2020 : 3:49PM
if asked to guess how much money do you think someone like riley reid is making from OF every month??
First, are you suggesting that technology isn't going to advance? Because just by THAT - the advancement of technology - the quality will improve. A picture I took on an iPhone 1 won't look as good as one I took on an iPhone 10. Regardless of if I have the talent to take pictures.
Second - you don't need a professional shoot - just the right tools, and the process of learning how to edit.
Third, some WILL, most won't, but you're lumping everyone in the same category - it doesn't work that way.
If you look at cam sites as an example - 10 years ago, the quality of technology wasn't what it is today. NOW, you can watch HD action live and it streams in time. And it'll just keep getting better. Why? Is it because the talent has gotten better at what they're doing? In some instances yes, but in general, the technology just keeps advancing, so it looks better.
If you're waiting on Jesse Jane to do 'Pirates 2' on OnlyFans... it's not going to happen. Not sure what it is you're looking for, but in general, it's just a given that the quality will get better - better talent at performance, better talent at editing - sometimes through on the job experience, and most certainly better from a technology standpoint.
Sure, there are always going to be those who put out crap, but why just focus on that?
Was one and done with Only Fans. Joined one girls and everyday it was constant going on about tipping. Never much content on her page and in the end It actually put me off her as a performer. I think some girls should be careful. If you annoy someone enough then you lose the fan and lose revenue of them buying DVDs and joining sites and requesting them.
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Posted - May 16 2020 : 5:25PM
i am sure it fluctuates from month to month, you have your new guys subbing to see what she offers but you probably have more guys unsubbing after realizing that its not worth the price of admission
Now, Aaliyah isn't at the absolute top of the game like Riley is, but she's not a nobody either. If I had to guess, Riley probably makes 1.5 to 2x what Aaliyah does (so 45-60K a month) if she's putting up content consistently. Also, this is probably all pre-taxes, so you have to reserve a large chunk of it to pay those taxes back.
So she is essentially retired because people are overpaying for her crappy homemade porn with her hubby? See why the majority of porn fans hate Onlyfans? Because of shit like this. It took potential all-stars like Mia Malkova from us and enabled them to be lazy and overpaid, because they understood that there are porn fans daft enough to pay for a couple of pictures a month with the odd POV scene now and then. Considering how frustrating it is for us not overpaying for OF, I can only imagine the porn producers.
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Posted - May 17 2020 : 5:49AM
riley is sooooooooooooooo much more popular than aailyah and has way mooooore followers than her. assuming she only makes 2x of her is just wrong. like i said someone like riley reid easily makes 100k a month from Of and fancentro.
Jem wolfie used to have 10k plus fans on OF and used to charge $10. Do the math. riley reid is way more popular than jem wolfie.
this random girl is making this much money with only 100k followers... [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available]
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Posted - May 17 2020 : 5:58AM
any camera these days can record at good quality. it isnt about quality of the recording. it is more about putting efforts and money it takes to make professional content. you need to pay money to male talent, camera guy and other expenses. why would they do that when it doesnt make them that much extra to justify those expenses??? because if it did make them that much extra they would be shooting and posting more professional style 30 minutes+ long porn on their onlyfans. when they can make enough money by just posting amateurish short vids from their home, why put any extra effort for no reason???
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Posted - May 17 2020 : 6:08AM
its a fucking trap for horny guys. people keep asking them for video previews but i doubt it will ever happen. manyvids and clips4sale has video previews but OF is more successful than them with no previews. i believe number of people buying videos with no previews (just because of curiosity to see whats in the video) is waaaay more than people who will buy because of previews.
you first pay money to subscribe, then pay money to buy content, pay money to chat (not mandatory i know), pay money for live streams, pay tips to get her extra attention. just empty your wallet in the name of supporting your favorite girl. OF has mastered the art of taking advantage of horny and lonely guys.
Rebel Rhyder for example is great, only monthly subscription and you get to see everything, full video's.. no DM's to pay for extra stuff.. And she always answers my messages! Love it! Elle Knox is an other example.
Riley has about 5x the Twitter followers than Aaliyah does (1.8M vs 400k), and what I'm saying is that that doesn't directly correlate to making 5x the amount that she does (you know, like how Aaliyah has 4x the followers as the person you just used as your example but doesn't make 4x the money that she does). Going exclusive does generally seem to make a difference, too (which is part of the reason you can see people with less followers making more money, because it's the only way to be able to see them), and Riley isn't exclusive yet, as far as I know.
Adriana Chechik - She only charge like $4.99 per month BUT I feel like she should charge at least $20 because she goes above and beyond for her fans. She never ask for tips. She only mentioned a tip to me one time and that was because I was talking about getting naughty to her for DM about a cam show and she said she get naughty for tips. The irony of it all is she gets naughty and I mean extremely naughty during cam shows anyways regardless of tips. She even understand those who can tip and she just want her fans to enjoy the show. She also has some full videos on her homepage and when she post content in the DM they are extremely cheap to unlock. Plus she is literally always logged into OF and she answers all of my messages and is so sweet and cool.
Sinn Sage - She charges $9.99 which the above what I want to pay but I kept her because she is amazing too. Havent joined in on her cam shows because the past two weeks OF been acting up so she had to go to camsoda and I dont have a camsoda account. I have seen her cam shows in the archives though and they look like alot of fun. If you ever want to see Sinn squirt you need to join her OF because she does it ALOT. She has her own store where you purchase customs and content BUT she will post content here and there on her OF cheaper than what she has on her store. Also she will post little clips throughout her homepage of an entire scene. What I do is I download all those little clips from the scene and merge them together in one to get the entire scene but you can watch it and if you want ask her about it to purchase it without the interruptions. She is super sweet and cool too. She answers all my messages and we have indepth conversations and she has never asked me for a tip or anything. Plus she asks me to give her feedback on scenes that I saw of her that I purchased from her store and she really appreciates the feedback no matter if its something I love or something Im a little critical off. So in general Sinn OF is worth every penny.
Abigail Mac - She charges $5.00 but she is the only one I know so far that will give you free content if you can keep auto rebill on. She can get expensive but not to the extreme side like some that Ive joined were. Like if you ask for a certain content she let you know the price which isnt cheap but isnt too expensive. It does add up though. In her cam shows they are entertaining but if you want her to get real naughty it definitely costs. Its worth it though. I love Abigail because she never disappoints so if you do pay up you will get your money worth. So far she has had sales on her customs and she delivers them very quick. Ive got my custom the same day. I have zero real complaints about it. She will chat with you through DM and maybe its just me but I feel like she will really chat with you if you tip often or alot. Like I dont get that feeling about Adriana or Sinn but I get that feeling with Abigail. I wish I had it like that because I love Abigail but I cant afford to tip her often or alot so I guess its safe to say we dont have much conversations in the DM although I tip every time she has the cam show and I comment and she comment back to me and I just have a blast during her shows.
Kristen Scott - I not too long ago joined her OF but so far so good. Her content is cheap when she post them in the DM which is a plus for me. She dont have regular cam shows like Adriana, Sinn, and Abigail so you just have to stay tuned. Ive only been a part of one cam show sorta. Yesterday she had one and it was freezing up and lagging while I was briefly on so I got off. She said she fixed the problem after I got off because others was mentioning about it so that sucked. She is so friendly and cool. Just like Sinn we chat alot in the DM as she always answer my DMs. She has only mentioned gibing her a tip once for chatting with me which I personally dont like that but I understood. She hasnt mentioned about a tip again for her time. In general her OF is worth getting. Plus if I can remember she has a free subscription right now for 30 days and after the free subscription its like $3 so its a great deal.
Shyla Jennings - I want to say her subscription is $5 but right now she has a free subscription for 30 days. If you are a new subscriber you get one free video if you tip her anything. Like you can tip her the minimum and you get one video. When I tipped her for that I couldve tipped her $5 but instead I think I tipped her $15 because I love Shyla and she sent me a nice video of her, Cherie, and Aaliyah. She just started doing live cam shows and Ive only been a part of one which was her first one and she was great. She always will talk to you on her DM and never ask for a tip. She even has a great sell on her custom which she said she wont be doing a sell for a very awhile. Too bad I cant capitalize on it lol.
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Posted - May 19 2020 : 9:11AM
I swear girls from Onlyfans love to brag on how much they get paid more than any other in the industry. Seriously hope they don't become targets for some because of it.
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