It's the same as usual, sometimes they do get naked, but mostly they are more or less clothed. I never had a problem with that, it emphasize that the girls are there to swallow (like in the classic Japanese bukkake and gokkun movies where the models usually have clothes on).
They more often get naked in the bts and HQ photo-set though.
Regardless, it's not a good look. They pretend like it's a full scene, by saying that she isn't created for hundreds of loads, but she is going to reach her limit today!!!!!!! Got an email yesterday with the 50% discount and they are trying to entice me to resubscribe with this Adriana scene. I'm like, really? That's the best they can offer, a 14 loads scene? I'm not gonna pay $50 for that. They totally lost the plot.
Edited by - Tony_Montan_Nah on 7/8/2025 2:46:40 PM
I feel like the site is a hoax really. And all you that get discounts, why and how? I don't get any and I were a member for two straight years. Strange indeed.
Of course it's not good at all, they try to give the appearance of business as usual, which might fool some new subscribers to sign up, but when it comes to new updates they don't give the members anything even near the value for the price we're paying, and have not for months now...
After cancelling they usually send a discount offer regularly to the mail you used when signing up. Where you a Diamond member? If not maybe they only send it to previous Diamond members, the messages I get usually say something like "get your diamond back", etc.
Remember when 14 loads would actually have been considered good? Actually, it was - not to rake up the past again but some of those old Baker's Dozen scenes...never been bettered imo. Personally, I wish they'd revive American Bukkake - just imagine it with modern production values! - but I get that the market (probably) isn't there, which is what makes PB such an outlier in terms of pricing. Certainly wish someone would come along and challenge them in this space (GGG is probably the closest current competitor).
^Yes, I rather see a well filmed 14 load scene with a hot model and big loads, than a weak 100 load scene. The "only 100+ loads" never mattered to me. Many loads are great, and was big part of what made PB unique, but only quality matters. When PB launched it was a sensation, but no scene was over 100 loads.
Yes I were. But I think I made a 'mistake'. I got so many mails from them in a short time span - that I unsubscribed. I think I did...is there any way I can re-subscribe without paying for a membership?
I first saw one of her video in firstgloryhole.com. She is so gorgeous. I always wanted her to do a big scene for PB. Was disappointed for 14 loads only. Finally, something worth paying for again.
^ Being disappointed over the huge price for PB is a big club, my friend. I'd rejoin if the price was more reasonable. I suspect they're happy charging a few members a high price rather than attracting a larger membership base with lower prices.
In fact, she never had an answer. Several people are contacted PB and they did not respond either. I guess PB is no longer interested in shooting more than two or three scenes with my same actress.
Maybe it's just too niche of a site for them to be able to charge less? In terms of load count, at least, they're pretty much a lone player in the market. The only thing I could see that would perhaps persuade them to lower the price would be the rise of a competitor.
I'm not an insider, but I think these kinds of scenes are expensive to produce. Each time they have to pay: - The actress (I've heard 3,000 per scene, but that's just a guess). - The many girls who help the guys during the scene behind the camera. - Two or three people to film. - A professional makeup artist. - Medical exams for the dozens of guys. - Tips for all the guys who ejaculate well (based on Sophia Locke's YouTube interview).
Add to that the employees, the website, the video editing, the studios, the payment platform, taxes, and the producer, of course.
I think a gokkun is a very complicated and expensive thing to produce. Studios prefer more profitable concepts.
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Posted - Aug 6 2025 : 10:11PM
100% correct. whats even crazier is these scenes would be even more expensive to produce in the us given that we dont have the transportation infrastructure (ie you have to pay for everyones parking somehow) or the public health infrastructure (most female perormers require full panel tests that cost $400 PER TEST) spain does. and im sure youd have to pay at least 5000 Us just for the female talent.
Brilliantly put. They should put this on the sign-up page or at least in the FAQs. The thing is, as with any adult site, you don't have to stay subbed. Join for a month and download the catalogue as it stands - ought to be enough to keep anyone going for a while. At the end of the day you either think this content is worth the asking price or you don't.
I agree with @JonECage and @N00dlesDaddy, great post! People tend to forget all the practical and economical aspects of producing these kind of scenes. You could also add the cost of the scooper/assistant girl, cost of plane tickets to Madrid for the main model, hotel, and so on.
But - I think most of the complaints about the price is not because of the price as such, but because of recurring periods without regular updates, technical issues, lack of site maintenance etc. Not to mention the complete lack of communication to the members. All of this makes people less inclined to accept a high price, that otherwise would be motivated for the unique niche content.
Exactly, and if you cancel a Diamond sub they regularly email you discount offers to rejoin. I guess most regular members only pay the discount price, 50% off monthly, or 70% off yearly. I'm a regular member since the site started, and have never payed full price except for the very first maybe 1 or 2 months.
But still, even with the discount price, it's hard to motivate that price for anyone joining for the new upcoming scenes, if one can't expect at least more or less regular updates and full scenes. Filler updates like these silly interviews with bottles does not count...
Excellent post and I think see a flaw in my own reasoning. I figured that a site like PB could charge a high fee and have fewer subscribers or charge a lower fee and make it up by having more subscribers. But the flaw in my reasoning is in thinking that what PB produces is mainstream porn and will appeal to a broad audience. I love bukkake and gokkun porn and I failed to recognize that this is a narrow niche. PB isn't like Adult Time or Team Skeet where what the site offers is across a broad spectrum but is mostly "mainstream" porn. Even a site with a narrower audience like Evil Angel can't be directly compared to PB. Evil Angel is relatively narrow when compared to Adult Time or Team Skeet, but it still offers enough variety to keep a lot of members happy. For PB, they rely on fans of bukkake and gokkun. It would be like a restaurant that only serves seafood. Seafood fans would flock there, but if they didn't offer alternatives, then they'd have a smaller customer pool. I can see now why PB charges what they charge.
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Posted - Aug 7 2025 : 10:32PM
its important to compare narrower audience to cost of the scene too-lets say you do a more 'extreme' site like hookuphotshot. thats gonna have a narrower audience but the cost per scene isnt going to be that much higher (maybe a couple grand more for the female talent but otherwise about the same as a normal b/g scene) but in bukkakes case you have a narrower niche but also WAY higher overhead costs.
PB's been getting some really beautiful ladies of late - Adriana Sweetblonde, Alexa Throat (who's ridiculously gorgeous) and Wolfy. They have faces that just look so good covered in cum! Hopefully PB keeps it up.
I second this. Would also love to see clean-up action (fluffers licking the spunk off the face of the main girl and swapping it with her) but this would doubtless increase the scene costs still further. Oh well, at least we still have those old Brandon Iron scenes. Man, I miss that guy more than words can say :(
Doing the extra work like clean-up actions would be costly. I wont want that. But, the fluffing is already present. They just need to point that camera and edit it. It wont take as much time !! And they are way too hot..
It's not that simple, the fluffer ladies does not always want top be seen on video, and if some of them would be ok with performing on video PB would have to pay them extra.
I assume that you are looking for information on those videos, not asking someone to send you those. I only mention that because the MODS will likely delete your request if it's the former while the latter is fine.
On the assumption that your request is for information only, I think the series N00dles is thinking of is "Baker's Dozen." This was a great series that ran through nine editions. The scenes generally followed a formula where the girl would perform a scene with one guy - usually anal - that would end with a facial. The girl would then be led outside where she would kneel in a circle of a dozen guys who would then jerk off on her face. Most of the guys appear to have been "saving up" for a few days because many of the cumshots are huge. At the end of it, the model's face is covered. In most scenes, but not all, there is a second or even third model there who then licks the cum off the main model's face.
This is an amazing series and I highly recommend watching them. Here's the listing on IAFD:
But if this series interests you, there is a cheaper way to view them -get a membership at Bang.com. Bang has some great (mostly) teen-themed (18+) original scenes but also has a massive catalogue of older non-original movies from huge studios from years gone by. My most recent subscription to Bang expired a couple of weeks ago but they offer a full trial so you can see what they have, and they have the entire Baker's Dozen series. Bang is a great deal even at the full price but you can usually find a discount around major holidays or on some referral sites.
^I actually assumed @N00dlesDaddy was referring to the classic "A good Source of Iron" series, which focus more on multiple load swallowing, where the Baker's Dozen series is more about facials. But perhaps he was just referring to Brandons facial and swallowing scenes in general. Anyway, the "A good source of Iron" series have some of the best filmed multiple load swallowing scenes ever, in my opinion. Also available on Bang.com. As are the "50 to 1" series which also focus on swallowing but mostly single loads, also great scenes.
^ I wondered the same thing and thought about mentioning it too but I stuck with Baker's Dozen since it seemed what was being discussed was a second model "cleaning up" the one who had taken all the facials.
You are right though that a lot of Brandon's stuff from that era is great. I didn't specifically check for "A Good Source of Iron" in the Bang.com library, but I know that there are at least some from that series. Maybe the whole thing.
After spending a month doing a deep dive into the Bang library, I was reminded how great porn from that era was.
^Yes the "Good Source of Iron" series on Bang.com is the complete series, 1-6. I've never been a member on Bang.com though, so I don't know how the picture quality is, compared to the old pornstarnetwork scenes, or the original dvd:s.
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JonECage Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 9 2025 : 1:56PM
bakers dozen is still the best bukkake series ever made imo
^As far as I know pornography in general is legal in Great Britain and Scotland, and a quick google search confirm that. Why would the kind of content PB offer be illegal?
Of course the content is extreme in some aspects, and cater to a niche customer, but if you think about it it does not involve any sexual acts that can't be seen in most mainstream porn. It's basically about blowjobs, sperm swallowing and facials, just much more of it than usual, which of course is challenging for the models, that's part of the deal, but there is no no violence or coercion involved in the scenes, not even acted.
My Bang subscription expired a couple of weeks ago so I can't give a specific answer for any in the series but I did check the two in the series that I was missing and downloaded. I took the highest resolution available, which is 72 hex 540 and a bitrate of around 2000 kb/s. I suspect (but didn't check) the four in the series that I already had but I likely got those during an older Bang subscription. Also, during this past membership I checked several of my favourite series to make sure I had the highest resolution available and I didn't re-download the ones I had so that's a good sign that all of them are 72 hex 540.
They look good, though I'd prefer a higher resolution. But I'm just happy to have the whole series thanks to Bang.com.
The one issue that some people may have is that the resolution means that the video has black bars on the sides. I don't know what that's called, but here's a screenshot to show what I mean:
^Thanks! Good to know, even if the resolution in itself doesn't say that much about the actual visual quality.
The black bars on the sides is the natural effect of watching a 4:3 aspect video (which was the standard back then) on a wide screen display. It's the way it should be. Some sites try to fix that by stretching out the video to 16:9, but that distort the image and look horrible. Thankfully I believe that's not the common thing to do these days.
Baker's Dozen is the gold standard by which I compare everything. As heavy facials are my #1 fetish, there is just nothing that compares to it. I love the scenes from Missy Monroe (40ish loads?), Courtney Cummz, Alicia Alighatti, Aubrey Adams, Taylor Rain, Amy Reid & Sasha Knox, Trista Post, Dillan Lauren, Alicia Rhodes, Sophia, Hillary Scott, Allie Sin, Krista Lynn Lovely, Hailey Young, Annette Schwartz, Mia Bangg and Jada Fire, Alektra Blue, Delilah Strong, Aubrey Adams, Chrissy Katrice (Jean Marie Sullivan), Brianna Love and Karina Kay.
Wow..just typing out all of those names - my "favorites" in the genre - make me realize again how epic the Baker's Dozen series really is.
The content is good, but there is too much screaming, which is a huge turn off for me. That is why, I mostly avoid US based adult sites. The one and only site that I had subbed to , was GHS, but that too has become screaming site recently. So, I only took it for 1 month.
I mostly prefer EU sites, as the contents have less screams.
I'm generally happy with the video quality. The way I see it, I can have these videos in a decent resolution or not at all. The fact that they were shot 20+ years ago is a factor too. I'd love to have them in 1080p, but I know that isn't going to happen.
Yes, I remember well that some companies stretched their videos to 16:9 and how terrible that looked. I'll take the black bars any day.
What all happened to Bubuu Kitty, Reynitta, and others, who had just interviews ?? And Wolfy, who had a BTS ? Are the full videos of those ladies coming up ?
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