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| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 |  Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 6:49AMHello Everyone : I'm gonna try to make my question clear so we don't get all the confusion and buzz that happened in my last thread,so everyone,just be cool and relax and if any of my words sound too much generalizing then I don't mean it :) Ok here's my question : You know when men are with a lovely woman in bed with a beautiful face and a nice body,we just wanna kiss her face,breasts,butt,lick her up..etc.It pleases us when we do it,we enjoy playing with boobs,ass,sucking her up,sometimes I just wanna lick her face but I don't,cause she'll be grossed out (usually,lol).My point is : Men ENJOY doing that,they NEED it,we DONT just do it to please our partner,it gives us a great amount of pleasure ourselves,the female body is amazing to us,we crave it and they can tease us with it saying "wanna suck on my boobs..etc" and we'll go crazy till they unleash the monster they've created on themselves,lol! So do women feel the same about the male body ? I mean,we don't have boobs,we have hairy butts,lol.When a woman kisses a man's chest or shoulders or body..etc Does she enjoy it as much as when a man is kissing a woman's breast ? I rarely see a woman passionately kissing a man's chest or body,she might do it to please HIM,but I don't think it pleases HER much. I know some people are gonna say "Pleasing your partner should please you" and I agree but that's not the case here as I've pointed out:They wont kiss your shoulders or chest or sth cause they're dying to or cause it's irresistible to them.You won't tease a girl saying "Hey,wanna suck on those abs" ,lol .I'm curious what male body parts do women find attractive or alluring? Another thing,we get off on watching a woman orgasm and scream,we love it,a woman can tease a guy saying "you wanna make me cum,watch me scream,hear me moan..etc" and we'll be like chained puppies,waiting for the green light to hump all the way,but a guy can't tease a woman saying "wanna see me cum or explode..etc" she knows you'll cum anyway and sure it's fun to watch for her but she's not dying to see it,or hear you "moan",not like men with women.A woman can say stuff like "fuck my mouth,pussy.." "slap me" in a demanding or even pleading tone and it would turn on the shit out of us,however,if a guy says "fuck my face" "ride my stick till it falls off" (just thought of that,lol) in a demanding/pleading tone that would sound weird to say the least,or is it not weird? Keep in mind here that I'm not talking about anything related to dating or relationships,I'm talking about pure sex.I'm also aware that a guy can tease a woman in other ways but what's amazing about women is that they can let you be a monster on them but they're still dominating you : with their minds. I don't think I've seen a man "mind dominate" a woman to suck him up and ride him till he cums like her life depended on it.How can a guy do that if that's even possible?It's also amazing how they can "beg" you to unleash yourself on them and set you right in the mood,I've never seen that reversed though,never seen a man "begging" a woman to unleash herself on him.Am I just inexperienced or does it really not happen?All of this makes me wonder how men and women lust for each other in different ways.I hope I was clear enough with my questions.Obviously,it's more addressed to the ladies,what do you think? Do you crave us the same way we do sometimes? Does this whole thing sound gay to you?,lol,Guys with experiences are welcomed to share their thoughts as well and Please take my question seriously even though this will be hard for some,I know,and thx for reading anyway :) Edited by - joeteen on Jan 7 2013 Edited by - joeteen on Jan 7 2013 [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 4:27PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 5:04PM [Link] |
| His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 7:33PM *Joeteen - good way to handle SSG! She can be quite brutal at times but that's why she's fucking awesome! [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 7:39PM [Link] |
| His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 7:51PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 8:30PM Our anatomy is different, yes. The way different hormones work eventually acomplishes the same tasks. The way we think, sometimes. But desire, horniness, etc, no. In that we are not much different at all. 99.9% of the time if a guy can feel a certain way about something sexual odds there is a chick that is going to feel the same way too. For example...cock size...Statistically speaking about 10% of the male population is above average in penis size. That actually coincides with the 10% of women who consider themselves size queens to the point of needing a bigger penis. For every toe-sucking guy out there, there is a woman who loves to have her feet worshipped. For every guy that loves a good blow job there is a chick that loves to worship cock. If you have ask what body part we fantasize about, we'll come up with just as many as you can. They may be different parts but we do have our favorites. One of mine is hands and what they can do to me. I also had a partner once that had the softest skin ever on a man. To this day I still compare how his felt to other people I've been with. What it comes down to is communicating. I can't say this enough. You actually have to speak to your partner to discover these things about them. The cock worshipping chick may not admit it for the same reason the toe-sucking guy won't admit it. Which all boils down to gender rolls and shame. Macho dudes aren't supposed to worship feet and good girls don't suck cock. [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 10:04PM I'm not guaranteeing that every woman will do so, of course. Women have their own expectations, after all, and may be made uncomfortable when you attempt to pass the ball. I've had it go both ways. [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 10:44PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 11:03PM Yes, a good Dom can make a woman crave him with a mind fuck. That's part of the whole D/s dynamic. [Link] |
| Ivory Sex Object by Proxy "We all want our time in Hell." 647 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 11:21PM Nonetheless, it is not something reflected much in either popular culture (indeed, I was genuinely surprised while watching Breaking Dawn: Part 2 by a scene where Bella was passionately kissing Edward's neck while he was lying there enjoying the sensation) or in pornography. [Link] |
| scenic Member 46 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jan 7 2013 : 11:56PM There's a terrible fallacy that women only get off on 'romantic' stuff. If you don't already know, that's completely untrue. We find men's bodies generally as attractive as you find women's. We get to see and feel you get hard - we don't have to try and work out if you're turned on or not. For me that's a turn on in itself. Speaking personally I've always found the sound of a guy doing the 'oh god, can I cum, I want to cum' the biggest turn on ever so it's not just a guy thing. I appreciate you asking these questions and hope I've helped a bit. [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 7:05AM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 7:09AM Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 11:10:53 AM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 3:57PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 4:47PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 7:00PM You come here and ask for advice. You want answers to your questions and many of the WOMEN (not girls) have given you some really good ideas and advice on how we think and what we think about. And what do you do? You compare our advice to the opinion of one other member and a porn performer(someone who is paid to "act" a certain way). You decide that what you've seen in porn and what a porn star has told you does not quite match what you want and deserve in reality. So even though some experienced women have given you our thoughts you decide to equate what she said and what you see in porn with reality. PORN IS NOT REALITY!!!! How many fucking times do we have to say this? Seriously? I'm just going to call a spade a spade... Basically what I see happening, is that you've taken the advice that suits your own opinion because YOU'RE A LAZY LOVER. In other words, you heard what you wanted to hear and stopped with that. You want to see a woman get all crazy on you but you don't want to take the time, energy, patience and thought required to make it happen. Edit: I forgot Hardware. He gave some good advice too. Edited by - sexshopgrl on 1/8/2013 7:49:00 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 8:13PM Btw,I asked for Leya's opinion before anyone has answered and even If I did ask her afterwards,I don't think there's anything wrong with that,especially since she has that thread of hers ,maybe she's paid to act but she's not paid to think or give a genuine opinion on sth,and if she wanted to act then she would give the complete opposite answer but she just said how she felt. And I said I don't know how to do that stuff as in I dont know what to say or how to act,I appreciate the guide lines hardcore gave me but I meant details and wahine and scenic definitely made me learn more aspects about women's lust that I didn't know of due to the reason I've clearly mentioned when I said I agreed with Ivory. Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 8:41:15 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 9:03PM thx all for ur contributions,I think I just find it weird to imagine those things cause like Ivory said,I've almost never seen it in a movie or even in porn and haven't experienced it before.So, therefore it doesn't happen in reality?And if I wanted to make a girl like 'all of the mentioned above',I wouldn't know exactly how to.Which is why we gave you adviceUsually when I see a woman doing and feeling what I've mentioned,it's when she's with another woman in lesbian porn !!cuz teh porn iz 4 reel!!1! thx everyone and if anyone has anything to add related to the topic,feel free to say it :) I just did Edited by - sexshopgrl on 1/8/2013 9:04:16 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 9:20PM "Which is why we gave you advice" which I appreciate but I said need more details cause I don't have much experience,it's like I'm not even typing... "cuz teh porn iz 4 reel!!1!" again ur words,NOT mine so please stop arguing with yourself.. Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 10:21:19 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 9:26PM Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 9:55:54 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 9:29PM Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 9:56:53 PM [Link] |
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| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 9:50PM Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 10:28:10 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 11:02PM Edited by - joeteen on 1/8/2013 11:03:22 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 1:20AM I don't think you're pathetic. I think you're lazy. Especially if you're using porn as a sex guide.This doesn't even make sense. That is not what you asked. And not even close to what you asked in the other thread. I don't even think you know how to ask a clear question. The first thing you have to do to be able to seduce or dominate someone to the point of pleading for you to fuck them...IS TO LISTEN. OMG! There's a concept. This is exactly why a red flag goes up whenever I hear or see a young Dom proclaim himself "Master." Yes, a Master can be used as a title for the Dom of a slave. But the whole point of being a Master is that a Master has mastered being a Dom before they take on the title of Master.You don't become a Jedi Master without first becoming a Jedi Knight. There was even a time when a person had to serve as a submissive for a certain amount of time before they could be considered a Master. That doesn't mean they have perfected domination persay. No matter how long you've lived that lifestyle you will always make mistakes. However, it does means that they have had a lot of experience and know how to give their sub/slave what they need because they know that sub/slave so well. They are able to listen to the little things to get hints into their personality and the way the sub/slave thinks. They are able to read facial expressions and body language. Having total control means having control over yourself as well. 90% of domination IS the mind fuck. The other 10% is creativity. Rarely has a 20 year old Dom mastered anything. And when I see the younger guys just expecting to pick up the art of domination without taking the time to listen and learn, I know I sure as hell could never call him "Sir" let alone "Master." And I don't. You also need to learn to listen if you want to be dominated. A Dom/me isn't going to put up with a sub that won't listen to his/her instruction. Partly due to the fact that there could be safetly concerns. Another is that it's just too fucking annyoing to have to constantly repeat oneself. The next thing you have to do to be able to seduce or dominate someone is learn how to ask the right questions to get the answer you seek. That mess of an OP waaay up there ^ has nothing to do with initiating the kind of sex you want or seduction. If that was the information you were looking for, then no, you did not make yourself clear. Do you want someone to beg to fuck you or do you want someone to make you want to beg to fuck them? Umm...also, just a tip here. It might be easier to understand your questions if you would at least make a half-assed attempt at punctuation, capitalization and maybe some grammar. Chicks dig brains, you know. [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:08AM I can't believe I have to quote my self,this is from OP "It's also amazing how they can "beg" you to unleash yourself on them and set you right in the mood,I've never seen that reversed though,never seen a man "begging" a woman to unleash herself on him.Am I just inexperienced or does it really not happen?" What doesn't make sense here? I have clearly asked the question,YOU just didn't see it. Yes,I should've been more clear about the initiation and seduction thing and I made a post to clarify that but yu still felt yu have to say something about it,ok. What's with the whole jedi speech? "Safety concerns" ?! I'm just talking about simple domination and submission power exchange in your everyday couples sex life or even in a one night stand with a stranger,I don't wanna be a "master" or anything,and I don't want extreme stuff,I just wanna spice it up.Those guide lines help I guess but again,I sorta need a detailed scenario on how to initiate,seduce,dirty talk,what to do DURING the sex whether it's with a gf or with a complete stranger I've just met. You keep getting things I never said and you don't understand things I keep saying,no,I don't think it's about my grammar or punctuation or language,I think it's about you and what you want to see,so there's no point of even trying to deal with you. Edited by - joeteen on 1/9/2013 2:58:25 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 5:30PM And you'll NEVER get that power exchange unless you learn how to listen and articulate. You're "not much focused on communicating with your partner"??? Are you fucking kidding me? My point was you have to learn the basics before you can master any skill. There are always safety concerns whether they're health concerns like STD's or getting to know someone's mental status before you "mind fuck" them. If you don't communicate with your partner, how are you going to know any of this?? How are you going to know if she's going to take you "going crazy on her" as consentual if you don't communicate? I get pissed off at YOU because you consistantly ask one thing and then turn around and say,"No, that's not what I was asking at all." And yes, the grammar thing is an issue. Half of what you write is one big long running sentence with commas thrown in wherever. It makes your writing very difficult to read and makes you come across as an idiot. It also implies that you must be lazy if you can't be bothered to spell out a word instead of trying to abbreviate it. You obviously only read part of what Ivory said. Personally, I'm begining to wonder if you're even old enough to be having sex. Let alone a power exchange. I seriously FEAR for the well-being of your future partners. You keep saying you ONLY need to know how to seduce, talk dirty, etc. But what we are telling you (and what you continue to ignore) is that all depends on the person you are with. We are not cookie cutter people. We all have our own likes and dislikes and the only way you are going to discover that...is to ask the person you're with. One woman might like you to stick your tongue in her belly button. Another might smack the shit out of you for doing the same. This is how one Master explains a power exchange...You seriously need to do some Googling and maybe pick up a few books to read on power exchange and D/s and find out what it's really about. Then decide if it's for you. [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 7:07PM 2)It's my fucking question,I choose what I want to focus on,I said in the OP this isn't about relationships,it's about pure sex moves and talk,I'm aware of the importance of communication and understanding but I never asked about that,I just need examples and scenarios and I'll handle the rest of the communication and understanding part myself,get that in your brain. 3)When I saw that I wasn't clear on sth I admitted and clarified it,a thing you need to learn : admitting one's fault. 4)I read every letter of every post here,and I still don't understand why you're not pissed at Ivory too or why you're pissed at all for that matter,Do I have to quote what she said and what I said for you to see it's the same ? : Ivory: "Well, women certainly can desire men that way. Nonetheless, it is not something reflected much in either popular culture (indeed, I was genuinely surprised while watching Breaking Dawn: Part 2 by a scene where Bella was passionately kissing Edward's neck while he was lying there enjoying the sensation) or in pornography." Me : "I think I just find it weird to imagine those things cause like Ivory said,I've almost never seen it in a movie or even in porn and haven't experienced it before.And if I wanted to make a girl like 'all of the mentioned above',I wouldn't know exactly how to.Usually when I see a woman doing and feeling what I've mentioned,it's when she's with another woman in lesbian porn !!" Then you come in and claim I think porn is like real life,what grammatical or language error did I make that made you think that? Or is it possible that the error lies some place else? 5)I answered the whole Leya and pornstars subject and you don't reply so you just decide to bash me on other stuff. 6)I replied to your CLAIM saying that I ask questions then deny asking them in the second paragraph of my last post but you deliberately decided to act as if it's not there ,and I'm quoting the same line from OP addressed to you AGAIN when I was explaining to hardware what I was telling her " "It's also amazing how they can "beg" you to unleash yourself on them and set you right in the mood,I've never seen that reversed though,never seen a man "begging" a woman to unleash herself on him.Am I just inexperienced or does it really not happen?"" so for the second time SSG : What doesn't make sense here? I,for the second time,have clearly asked the question you CLAIM I didn't,YOU,AGAIN,just didn't see it and YOU WON'T and I don't expect to see you reply to that.Go ahead,just run that tape over again and say "You ask one thing and then deny asking it at all". 7)Safety concerns like STDS? yeh,sure,that's what you meant,thx for ur concern on the sexual health and mental status of me and my partner,appreciate it. 8)The whole "language" excuse just shows me how you've got nothing to say really,even If I have some errors,they won't lead to all of what you've come up with.Plus,you don't see me checking YOUR mistakes and you DO have mistakes but I certainly won't take this conversation any lower by correcting your grammar or punctuation. 9)Your personal attacks on me don't validate or confirm any of your claims or arguments or objections or analysis or whatever you wanna call it,it even shows me that you got nothing to pick on,and you've turned this topic into a personal debate or argument between me and you which I won't proceed in any longer for the sake of the topic. 10)Need I say that the paragraph you've quoted is,for the third or fourth time now,irrelevant of what I'm focusing on despite of it's importance? (please refer to point no. 2 , you probably forgot by now or skipped that point ) 11)Please just leave my topic,Consider this a white flag and that I'm not worthy of what you've got to teach me,just leave,plz,this is my only request to you SSG,I don't deserve your help,what you've given me is more than enough,thank you. Edited by - joeteen on 1/9/2013 8:22:03 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:15PM I never said you were a master. I said you remind me of young guys who proclaim themselves as masters. You think you can just ask a few questions and get it on. It doesn't work that way with power exchange. Or are you asking about something totally different now? It's difficult to tell. If you have never seen a man begging a woman it's because you're expecting to see it in porn. If you knew people who were into those dynamics, you would see it. If you went to a dungeon party, you would see it. Hell, even if you go to a munch or a meet and great you will see the dynamics that make scenes like you describe occur. I'm sorry to dissappoint you but you don't simply learn it from asking a few questions on a forum or watching porn. I have several FemDom friends who will agree. If you weren't comparing why did you crosspost a totally different question from another thread? What was the point? And why would I be mad at Ivory? She specifically said that women can certainly desire men the same way. As far as it being reflected in pop culture, I'd say she's not looking very hard. Maybe she just hasn't watched enough Lifetime or whatever, but it's out there. In porn, not so much and when it is, it's as fake as their tits. very rarely do you see power exchange or BDSM porn that is realistic. Usually when you do, it's homemade. And safety concerns are VERY important. You want to catch something from someone, knock yourself out. You injure someone or your lack of communication (that you're not concerned about) gets you slapped with a false rape claim, don't come crying to us. Because I personally WILL tell you I told you so. And yes, you can hurt people by giving them a mind fuck. You go right on ahead and try to check my grammar mistakes, dude. At least people can understand what the fuck I'm trying to say or ask. Learn to write and speak like a big boy and you will find women (Dommes and subs) willing to teach you. I personally do not have the time to try and decipher your shit and it gives me a fucking headache. Edited by - sexshopgrl on 1/9/2013 8:33:37 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:32PM I replied to the rest of what you said,If you can't tell the difference between "I find it hard to imagine that..." and "There's no such thing as that..." then it's not a language barrier,It's a mind barrier,your mind,how fucking challenging.I don't see anyone else complaining so don't refer to yourself as everyone,No one hired you to speak on their behalf. Dungeons and BDSM has shit to do with the topic. Keep talking,I'll just act like you don't exist. P.s "If you have never seen a man begging a woman it's because you're expecting to see it in porn " there should be a comma in between the two phrases,miss perfect and it's spelled "greet" not "great". Edited by - joeteen on 1/9/2013 8:47:41 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:47PM http://www.lincoln.edu/mhs/owl/commas.htm Using Commas Correctly What are commas? Commas are the most common punctuation mark used in English and therefore the most difficult to keep under control. They signal the reader that it's time to pause briefly but then keep going to the end of the sentence. What causes comma errors? Here are the three main causes of comma errors: 1.Using the old "put a comma where I stop to take a breath" rule; 2.Thinking that you must put a comma before every AND in a sentence; 3.Catching a bad case of comma-itis, a condition that makes a writer feel the need to insert a comma after every couple words. How can I check for comma correctness? After you have written your paper, use the FIND command to move through your writing, comma by comma. If you can't think of a good reason to have a comma in any particular sentence, chances are that comma is not needed. (See COMMA DO'S AND DON'TS.) How do I fix comma errors? Refer to COMMA DO'S AND DON'TS for a quick list of the places where commas are needed and those places where they are not needed. If you're tempted to use a comma in a sentence you are writing, but it doesn't fit into one of the "Comma Do's" categories, keep this simple comma rule in mind: When in doubt, leave it out! Have a nice day, dumbass! <~There! Now I've broken a rule. I'm sure one of the mods will be happy to spank me. [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:49PM Edited by - joeteen on 1/9/2013 9:23:31 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:51PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 8:53PM Edited by - joeteen on 1/9/2013 9:14:25 PM [Link] |
| His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10 | Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 10:42PM " What is her ethnic background?" - Digital Lust [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 12:52AM [Link] |
| matchmaker Senior Member 24914 Posts 4/05 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 1:32AM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 3:45AM [Link] |
| His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 7:17AM [Link] |
| matchmaker Senior Member 24914 Posts 4/05 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 7:28AM [Link] |
| His Dudeness All Business Shut the fuck up, Donny!! 2793 Posts 4/10 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 7:11PM [Link] |
| Ivory Sex Object by Proxy "We all want our time in Hell." 647 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 8:26PM Now, I have enough exposure to commonly-distributed pop culture (meaning movies, television, bestselling books) and pornography (meaning professionally-produced hardcore) to feel comfortable making a fairly generalized statement. "Not often reflected" does not mean "never reflected". I do not have a lot of exposure to written erotica, soft-core pornography, and amateur pornography, so it's possible that those might be venues that feature more of the behavior in question. So that said, I thought the OP's question made a lot of sense, especially because most teens don't have tons of sexual experience, and so much of what they learn about how sex works is through pop culture and hardcore pornography. I think if I were 19, I would wonder the same thing. Just to clarify, I'm talking about seeing women acting upon men, not just reacting to men's actions. In pop culture (apparently Lifetime channel excepted) and commonly available hardcore pornography, how often do you see a woman kiss a man anywhere but on his mouth (and that's usually her kissing him back), or his genital region? How often do you see a woman touching a man, caressing a man, grabbing a man anywhere on his body besides his dick? What about seeing a woman stripping a man down? These are just some examples, not a comprehensive list. Edited by - Ivory on 1/10/2013 8:28:21 PM [Link] |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 10:00PM Think of it this way...look at how people continue to act even in this era when there is a homo or lesbo-erotic scene in a movie or on tv. It could be as simple as two guys kissing and people freak the fuck out. You cannot base your entire sexuality on what you see in porn or mainstream media. [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 10:34AM Edited by - joeteen on 1/12/2013 1:43:18 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 11:01AM Now, I have enough exposure to commonly-distributed pop culture (meaning movies, television, bestselling books) and pornography (meaning professionally-produced hardcore) to feel comfortable making a fairly generalized statement. "Not often reflected" does not mean "never reflected". I do not have a lot of exposure to written erotica, soft-core pornography, and amateur pornography, so it's possible that those might be venues that feature more of the behavior in question. Me (copy pasting) : "I've ALMOST never seen it in a movie or even in porn" Ivory(copy paste):So that said, I thought the OP's question made a lot of sense, especially because most teens don't have tons of sexual experience, and so much of what they learn about how sex works is through pop culture and hardcore pornography. I think if I were 19, I would wonder the same thing. Me (who said I'm 19?) (copy pasting again) : I think I JUST FIND IT WEIRD TO IMAGINE those things CAUSE LIKE IVORY SAID !!,I've ALMOST never seen it in a movie or even in porn and haven't EXPERIENCED it before. Ivory(copy paste): Just to clarify, I'm talking about seeing women acting upon men, not just reacting to men's actions. In pop culture (apparently Lifetime channel excepted) and commonly available hardcore pornography, how often do you see a woman kiss a man anywhere but on his mouth (and that's usually her kissing him back), or his genital region? How often do you see a woman touching a man, caressing a man, grabbing a man anywhere on his body besides his dick? What about seeing a woman stripping a man down? These are just some examples, not a comprehensive list. ME (copy pasting) : And if I wanted to make a girl like 'all of the mentioned above',I wouldn't know EXACTLY HOW TO.USUALLY when I see a woman doing and feeling what I've mentioned,it's when she's with another woman in lesbian porn *Just added a case where I've seen this behavior from women towards the other partner,I've seen it with boys also,but not often,which is why I said "usually" * So as you can see Ivory,all I did was agree with you 100%,you got my question 100%,You said you understand the reasons why I would ask such a question and I confirmed that when I said that I do find it weird or difficult to picture or imagine those things due to the reasons you've mentioned and I clarified afterwards that I need techniques regarding initiation and seduction,moves,dirty talk,in order for a woman to act or react to me in that way,like I said in the OP "we don't have boobs to flaunt or anything",see?Pure sex talk,that's the aspect that I was focusing on and some of you gave me replies.I don't see how I've "used your words in an unpleasant exchange".Are you referring to the entire convo between me and SSG cause I agree it's unpleasant or do you see I've somehow twisted your words? I've put what Yu said and what I said in one post and as I'm reading it right now,I don't see any contradiction or twisting of your words and I'm wondering If you read this,will you still see that it's contradicting or twisted,hmm :/ ? Edited by - joeteen on 1/12/2013 2:19:59 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 1:10PM P.S : There are plenty of grammatical and spelling mistakes here,feel free to comment on them to divert from what I'm saying.DW,I won't google them,I know people (including yourself) understand me and frankly I don't need to prove myself right on a lame subject as that nor do I have the time. Edited by - joeteen on 1/12/2013 2:14:38 PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 1:25PM |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 3:27PM [Link] |
| joeteen Member 207 Posts 4/12 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 4:29PM |
| SexShopGrl Member F is for Forty and Fabulous! 940 Posts 5/11 | Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 9:15PM And as to that other question and the other answer, it is complete and utter bullshit. As I've said, we are not that different. Biologically speaking, men and women do process thought and desire differently. There are plenty of studies out there that show this. Men may have a higher libido but women's libidos are more fluid. Meaning, we change and adapt, whereas men are more rigid about what turns them on. But that does not mean we don't think about the same things. Just because certain acts are not portrayed in pop culture does not mean it doesn't happen or that it's not more the norm than people might think. And to assume so does a major disservice to both genders and sexual attitudes in general. Edited by - sexshopgrl on 1/12/2013 9:51:57 PM [Link] |
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