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| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 |  Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 5:10PMI moved this discussion from "How does a girl become successful in porn?" I moved two post here too. Drug Testing in porn Agree? Disagree? Or Are drugs a problem?
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| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 5:17PM [Link] |
| Dither Persona non grata I love America 650 Posts 8/05 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 5:20PM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 5:34PM Edited by - Shagdog on 2/10/2008 5:39:27 PM [Link] |
| Dither Persona non grata I love America 650 Posts 8/05 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 6:05PM [Link] |
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| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 6:25PM Yup and while they are at it they should test for steroid and viagra/cialas/caverject use etc [Link] |
| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 6:32PM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 6:43PM And while your at it. Is the drug addicted girl vital to porn. Edited by - Shagdog on 2/10/2008 6:50:07 PM [Link] |
| Sean Renaud Member 181 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 6:51PM Porn is a unique job anyway and as a results needs unique rules. [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 7:00PM Answer the question do you think porn can survive without drug addicted girls. [Link] |
| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 7:09PM [Link] |
| blowfish Member 874 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 8:03PM [Link] |
| IWAdult Member 628 Posts 5/06 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 8:09PM i don't use drugs, i don't advocate drugs, but it seems like drugs and porn have gone hand in hand since the beginning. i doubt it would change anything if you did or did not test. Checking for STDs is far more important. [Link] |
| nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 8:18PM [Link] |
| Sean Renaud Member 181 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 8:36PM Drugs interfere with every part of your life. So does being in love, or having a fight with your lover, or alcohol. Come off the high horse. If a girl passes the STD test, shows up on time and fucks her brains out it's cool. I don't see the issue. It's not like driving a truck where regular drug tests are administered and rightly so. You can kill a lot of people with an 18 wheeler. It's not like being a cop where if you're a junkie who knows what other crooked things you're into that could damage your integrity. I can go on and on. The fact that employers CAN do something has nothing do with if they should be allowed to do something. If no solid reason can be given for why drugs would be damaging to your bussiness (and honestly you could catch all into, they won't show up on time) then fine if not you shouldn't be allowed. Right now the government CAN tap into any conversation they want, without a warrant. Are you going to tell me that because they legally have this ability that we should shrug or should we be trying our best to get people into office who will change these things? [Link] |
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| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 8:41PM [Link] |
Savoy  All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 9:31PM [Link] |
| Hitit Member 90 Posts 12/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 9:44PM [Link] |
| xxaru Member 128 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 9:54PM Why not try to impliment mandatory drug testing for Hollywood actors? Shouldn't they be placed on the peddle stool too? [Link] |
| Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 9:59PM [Link] |
| Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 10:01PM [Link] |
| Dick Froth Member 293 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 10:05PM But pornstars, rappers, etc. NO. That's just funny. [Link] |
| xxaru Member 128 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 10:06PM [Link] |
| Mike Quasar Zero Tolerance Reluctant pornographer 1765 Posts 7/01 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 10:48PM [Link] |
| blowfish Member 874 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Feb 10 2008 : 11:40PM [Link] |
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| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 1:32AM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 1:33AM cobalt60 I think the artist would be a live. [Link] |
| dead horse Most Beaten Member 305 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 3:13AM and show some respect just because some fat ass mope said it's true doesn't make it so [Link] |
| PornoHolik Member 45 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 3:25AM I'm with the majority here. Just because we can do it doesn't mean we should do it. Waaay too many companies/industries drug test these days for jobs that shouldn't require it. The direction we're going is more and more loss of liberties. And this is just another nail on the porn industry's casket. The increasingly infecting laws and law enforcement hassles, the whole employee/workman's comp thing, now this debate. What's next? And then there's the double standard with alcohol I've never come to terms with. If you get drunk Friday night and show up for work Monday and do your job, well, that's fiiiiine. But if you smoke a joint Friday night and show up for work Monday and do your job and they have you pee in a cup mid-morning and you fail, you get fired. And...last thing, I swear...if you're an alcoholic you need help. If you're strung out on drugs, you need to get the fuck out of here. I'm just sayin'. I don't really have an opinion on the subject, one way or the other. [Link] |
| Ultrasiet2 Wam Bam! Clan Monique, Ultra, Jesse - bustin' suckas down under! 1433 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 5:33AM She'll become the Ricky Williams of porn. [Link] |
| dead horse Most Beaten Member 305 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 5:53AM ever [Link] |
| Ultrasiet2 Wam Bam! Clan Monique, Ultra, Jesse - bustin' suckas down under! 1433 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 7:09AM Instead of 'Squirt in my gape' we'll have 'Squirt in my Specimen Jar.' Pissing films won't be titillating, they'll become documentary footage. Instead of titles like 'Squirteen' we'll have 'The Testing Process.' Jenna Jameson will be found to have taken performance enhancing implants and will need to return her AVN awards. [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 8:49AM If drugs were so great for them Whitney Houston should be biggest star ever. Why was Amy Winehouse boo off the stage for being fucked up. Drugs didn't make these careers Drugs ended these careers The idea that anyone or any industry needs drugs is insane. Edited by - Shagdog on 2/11/2008 8:57:41 AM [Link] |
| dead horse Most Beaten Member 305 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 9:16AM [Link] |
| zorge Member 278 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 9:30AM And if they want to do that, then why not go out and investigate everything in a person's life and give them breathalizers at the door, too? [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 9:31AM I guess Elvis is still a live lol.Employers can do that too. Edited by - Shagdog on 2/11/2008 9:36:31 AM [Link] |
| dead horse Most Beaten Member 305 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 9:37AM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 9:52AM [Link] |
| dead horse Most Beaten Member 305 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 10:05AM Edited by - dead horse on 2/11/2008 10:07:14 AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 10:22AM The only issue, really, is that it gives the anti porners something else to whine about (Not that they ever needed anything to whine about). Never mind that it's BS. Those who buy their arguments are the same people who believe the universe will end if weed (for instance) isn't wiped out. I have no problem stating that I'm not in favor of meth. But I do think that a porn performer shouldn't need to prove they aren't high unless the company they're working for insists that performers not be high. That's their right, I suppose. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 10:23AM The only issue, really, is that it gives the anti porners something else to whine about (Not that they ever needed anything to whine about). Never mind that it's BS. Those who buy their arguments are the same people who believe the universe will end if weed (for instance) isn't wiped out. I have no problem stating that I'm not in favor of meth. But I do think that a porn performer shouldn't need to prove they aren't high unless the company they're working for insists that performers not be high. That's their right, I suppose. [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 10:43AM [Link] |
| tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 12:41PM I'm not talking about pot, but I remember times seeing a girl get fucked up on whatever to loosen up her inhibitions. I don't want a girl to have to loosen up. I'd hope she's cool with doing what she's doing even if she were sober. I don't need drug testing to be able to tell if a girl is seriously fucked up. If she got high the night before and she comes to set with a clear head, ready to do her thing, that's what I need. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 1:09PM If studios don't want performers to be high during scenes, I can understand that. But the thing with drug testing is that I don't think it's nuanced enough to be able to tell whether or not the person being tested has used anything recently. If it was three weeks ago, why does it matter? It's probably not going to kill their performance unless they took something really hardcore and it fucked up their mind permanently. [Link] |
| MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 2:26PM I think if you have to do drugs to be in this business you have no business in this business I dont allow drugs or alcohol on a set, if the girl appears fucked up she goes home and doesnt come back. Its a legal move as well, if she is impaired when she signs that model release the release is null and void, under a legal precedent known as diminished capacity. And the same holds true for the guys...if you are 40 years old and have to use Viagra to get your dick hard for thesae girls...thats Gods way of telling you you dont belong in this biz, or maybe that you are gay. As a purely protective measure for the industry look at the headaches we'd avoid if everyone in the biz used the same screening I do. No Shelly Lubbens, no more kristineyes etc. These are my choices for doing business and they work for me, as a Libertarian I don't think anyone should be drug tested but if you are gonna do it...do it and include all substance abuse. [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 4:06PM Why should the porn industry care about drugs in the industry? The same reason other industry care money. The porn industry belongs to the porn agents and porn producers not some girl from Kansas that comes to town for 3 months. But that girl from Kansas is the face of YOUR industry. If she goes back home with a new car and money other girls will follow. But if you send her home addicted to drugs, with a blown out asshole and no money. She will not say, " It's my fault I blew all my money" “I was a drug whore” but she will blame the porn industry (YOUR industry) to anyone that will listen. See Shelly Lubbens and the crusaders. As for drug testing. These girl are all ready being tested once a month. Why not include drugs. The risk of an intravenous drug user to the industry is great. As is the risky sexual behaver of drug users. AIM is already set up to do counseling. Sharon Mitchel is an ex drug user. AIM should be set for drug testing and counseling as well. Don't you think it would benefit the other performers to know the extent of their co-worker drug use? In the days past porn was stuck with any girl willing to fuck on camera. That is not the case today. With testing and it on they're test results other performer and producers would know what they were dealing with. The drug testing along with drug counseling could save someone from addiction and death. Porn producers and agents should make reasonable efforts to get these girls back to Kansas clean and sober with a new car and money in their pockets if possible. Edited by - Shagdog on 2/11/2008 4:08:27 PM [Link] |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 5:16PM [Link] |
| below_me Member An entire generation of men spoiled by a few kinky pornstars. You know who you are!! 655 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 5:25PM [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 5:45PM [Link] |
| Dither Persona non grata I love America 650 Posts 8/05 | Posted - Feb 11 2008 : 6:04PM [Link] |
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