No, but she'll have sex with complete unknown strangers who pay her very little and are not tested. I'm not saying the other scenario is without its risks, but I think it's a lot more dangerous and dumb to be a street whore. And I think the comparison is absurd. I think your average 18 year old porno newbie has almost nothing to fear from blow-banging Jonny Fender and Faceblaster. Your average street whore could very easily get assaulted, robbed, whatever ...
Also, the percentage of girls who will do 15 guy ATM gang bands is fairly small ... probably 5% of the talent pool in any given year. The fact is, gang bangs are really expensive to produce, and you actually hardly ever see many such titles anymore. You certainly don't see 15-dude titles. Besides the RLD one with Sasha, can you name any from 2006?
Actually, there are a lot of women who do this kind of thing for free because they get off on it. Does that make them whores, too ... or sluts?
I have no problems with the phrase "Whore," personally. I think it's kind of a fun word. But I'm not buying into judgmental attitudes. If someone has an issue at least say why and what the actual issue is. Words are just words. A lot of porn stars are whores, 24/7. Some are just "whores" on camera. Some "whores" never fuck at all.
I'm tired of this point. I've been a performer AND an escort and when I say they aren't the same thing, that should be the end of it. I'm not the only performer who has done both and said they aren't the same thing. That should be the END OF IT!
I don't care if specific tasks appear to be identical. A housewife washing dishes isn't the same as a barback washing mugs which isn't the same as a lab tech cleaning glassware. Everyone has their hands in soapy water, but the purpose and the skill set is not the same.
No, performing in porn is NOT the same as being a prostitute.
Nup. Bollocks. Going that way, all sex workers of any sort are prostitutes. Pornstars, hookers, escorts, masseuses who give 'hand relief', strippers, nude models, BDSM dominatrices and subs who never get nekkid and never touch a cock but nonetheless give sexual pleasure for money. This way, the porn photographers and cameramen are prostitutes; they're getting paid for providing sexual pleasure too. And so are the people who composit the boxcovers. And so are the truck drivers who deliver the DVDs. And the guy who pumps gas into the truck...
You're going to need some distinctions here, otherwise everyone who even supports the system which gets the porn from camera to consumer is a prostitute.
Sure, there's some degree of shame and guilt for pornstars and I'm sure some prefer to use various labels to avoid saying what they really are. After all, I bet some of them are... atheists. Or humanists! Now that sort of stuff will get you ostracised in the US quick smart. Much better to hide behind an identity like 'erotic performer'. But why bother to call yourself a prostitute when you don't accept payment from people to have sex with them? I don't think prostitution is inherently morally wrong any more than porn performing is inherently morally wrong, but I like words to be used with some discretion.
Here I go for "sexual athlete" and you go for "dishwasher"?
Absolutely the skill set is not the same. I surely wouldn't expect a pro to be able to do the things I've seen my favorite starlet do, not nearly as well, and not acting like she likes doing it all at the same time whether she does or not.
Wait, I already said all this.
OK, then, there's the "deer in the headlights" maulings I've seen a time or two that can be hot. I'm starting to appreciate the finer points of the acting abilities of some chicks I thought were just young, drunk or drugged and getting worked over like a stripper at a lacrosse team party.
ERerererererr... not sure where I'm going with this any more, so I should stop before anyone gets hurt.
+1Kimi is one of the most frank and honest posters on this message board.This seems pretty clear to me.
Hey Married Lucky --
Do you have any motive here besides slinging shit? Because if you do, I can't see it.
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 11:10AM
One has to believe sex is a performance to make that work...someone that feels that way I'm guessing, probably learned it early in life and now views sex as a performance or task she has to perform to get by, even if she likes it.
I was raise to view sex as just a fun biological function and an expression of love or lust... and always thought those that think of sex as a task to be performed are doing it wrong... or they're prostitutes performing a job.
Nor do I think, someone putting a camera on a, housewife doing dishes, a dishwasher, or lab worker washing lab glasses, makes them a film star.
They are just a housewife, dishwasher, lab techician being filmed or taped.
Edited by - married_lucky on 2/22/2007 11:12:18 AM
Intellectual masturbation to go along with my actual physical masturbation....I guess
I don't see prostitution any differently than any other profession... We all have experiences and training along with opportunities that lead us all to whatever it is we do.
Now, What's your point? Other than to marginalize , if not outright censor, any articulate and convincing counterpoint.
I grew up in the same world you did. I read fairy tales of happily ever after. I watched television shows of happily married people. I saw movies exalting the importance of love. Every popular song in the 80s was about someone falling in love or out of love or glorifying someone's hot legs.
I do know of, and have experienced, sex as being a way, one way, to express intimacy. It can be fun.
I have also experienced using my body as a tool, much the same as a hammer or saw, for work and tasks. Those tasks could be lifting furniture, or giving a blowjob. In that sense, sex is simply a performance. I perform, with my body, the task.
Your statements are not convincing or well articulated. You don't back up your statements with anything other than "I think this." What you think, or what I think, doesn't make any difference to reality. Things are what they are. Things are not what they are not.
Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 1:30AM
