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p_ramezap
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1549 Posts
5/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 12:45AM
I recently downloaded Firefox browser which I love so far, however when I come to this site and try to post/reply/edit I can't. those buttons just don't show up to click on. any ideas why?

Edited by - p_ramezap on Mar 18 2005

cv
Member

My reviews[/url]
594 Posts
7/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 12:57AM
It might be something specific to your configuration.

Firefox (Phoenix, whatever) has been my primary browser for quite a while, at least since before I registered here with my current ADT handle (July 2003).

I've certainly encountered a few hiccups at various sites, but nothing close to what you have described here for ADT. My guess is that your cookies or preference file has been corrupted.

My guess is that of my ~1255 posts, perhaps 1240 have been with a Firefox browser (or predecessor). I'm running Firefox on both Mac OS X and Windows 2000 computers.

Good luck.

EL_
Member

Browsing with Mouse Gestures
193 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 1:00AM
did you get the lastest upgrade to 1.0.1?

I can see them.

jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 2:06AM
FireFox is the only browser I use. It works fine for ADT for me.
VirginSurgeon
Member

LA, CA
23 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 3:57AM
FF works fine for me, cept the post/edit/reply buttons dont show any popuptext, but the status bar shows it.
 
astroknight All-Star Supporter
Questionable Moderator

Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 11:06AM
Been using Firefox for at least 6 months, maybe closer to a year and never had the problem.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 12:29PM
then how did you post this message? (cheeky)

Have you tweaked some colors in the Fonts & Colors under Tools -> Options -> General? Is a downloaded theme messing up? the css file could be screwed or have been incorrectly edited?

Edited by - oatmeal on 3/17/2005 12:37:55 PM

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 7:56PM
I use Firefox for all of my browsing and have been for a few months now. I've never seen the problem that you're describing.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 7:58PM
I do think it could be a cookie issue. Those buttons don't show up if the server doesn't think you're logged in. Are you logged into your forum profile?
p_ramezap
Senior Member

1549 Posts
5/03
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 12:13AM
Thanks all for your responses. I goofed. I used FF to view this site while still running Opera, so what happened was that I was logged in from Opera, but not from FF. that's why I couldn't see those buttons.
Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 8:31PM
So, what is the most recent version to Firefox? I am about to take the plunge. Is it 1.0.1?
VirginSurgeon
Member

LA, CA
23 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 8:35PM
Yep current, after that download the extensions from tools. I like using the dictionary, the weather forecastfox, tinyurl and addblock plugins.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 10:28PM
tabbrowser preferences, forecastfox, FLST (focus last selected tab), bbcode and spellbound for me.
Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 2:22AM
Hmmm, some of my text is slightly different. The way its displayed anyway. Will post my thoughts later.

Anyone else have extensions that are good?

jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 3:12AM
Aside from the ones mentioned above I use these daily:

Image Zoom 0.1.7 (which hole is that cock in? )
Duplicate Tab 0.5.1
Web Developer 0.8 (there's a handy option to disable referrer logging, which is how some sites block picture links)
Text size toolbar 0.2 (useful on notebooks to read small text)

 
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 1:47PM
jrv-if you just want to disable referrer logging, isn't it easier to type about:config in the location bar, scroll down to "network.http.sendRefererHeader" and just change the value from 2 to 0? the reason i ask is that web developer, while incredibly versatile, writes TONS of new code for firefox to go through and it does slow things down a bit if you're just changing one thing.
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 1:59PM
Check out the Pornzilla page. The "linked images" bookmarklet is great.
jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 7:06PM
There are some sites that need referrer logging to work right and Web Developer is a relatively easy way to switch on and off. I think adultcdmovies is one such site.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Mar 19 2005 : 8:31PM
Looks like I have made another convert!

Jacco

Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 21 2005 : 2:04AM
I LOVE FireFox!!!!!!!

Love the tab viewing! It takes a little getting used to, but WOW!!!!!!!!

I can't believe I waited so long to convert, mea culpa.

So is Thunderbird the mail version? I would just as soon lose Outsuck Express as well.

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Mar 21 2005 : 4:12AM
Thunderbird is the standalone version of Mozilla mail, and it is supposedly quite good and has builtin spamfiltering.

Jacco (Your Choice BV)

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Mar 22 2005 : 5:52PM
damn you jrv, and damn your refusal to type about:config into the the location bar and change network.http.sendRefererHeader from 2 to 0. i'm onto you and your scheme to take webdeveloper public and rule the world.
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Mar 24 2005 : 9:19PM
FYI- There's a new security upgrade to Firefox available. They're now downloading version 1.0.2.
Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 25 2005 : 12:33AM
Yes, I know. Firefox downloaded it while I was posting here.
petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 9:18PM
Is Firefox supposed to be slower than IE? It has been for me.
 
JimGunn
Member

Where The Teens Are
173 Posts
1/02
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 10:53PM
I tried Firefox. Not sure that I think it is faster than IE. But it was able to display one site that IE had a problem with. Maybe I will try it a little more.

Jim Gunn Productions

Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 10:57PM
Pete, try this: open a new tab and type "about:config" in the address bar. Go down the long list of stuff that comes up and find the line that starts with "network.dns.disableIPv6." If the value shown is "false" instead of "true," double-click on the line, which will toggle the value. Close the tab.
petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 1:39AM
OK. Mine was "false", but I changed it.

Should I buckle my seatbelt?

petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 1:42AM
Thanks for the tip. I don't know yet if it helped, but I didn't want to sound like a smart-ass.

We mid-westernerners don't want to offend, especially someone who's helping.

jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:57AM
FireFox seems to draw/render differently than IE, so it may seem different even when you're download-speed limited.

Broadband users can try the Tweak Network Settings 1.0 extension, to have FF download more page elements and to use pipelining when possible.

Dial-up users might turn off favicon display.

I've never tried it, but you can tune the way "reflows" happen. This is when the browser draws a partial page as the page downloads. This might make it feel better, even though the result is no faster.

Turn off smooth scrolling if desired.

Unload extensions you don't need.

Funkola
Member

72 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 4:55AM
FireFox hacks
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 6:10AM
what jrv's talking about is the placebo effect you're missing when firefox shows the outline of an image while it loads which ie doesn't. it's at browser.display.show_image_placeholders, try setting it to false.

i've been totally unimpressed with firefox's development for the last year having used it since 2003 or maybe a few months earlier. it's autocomplete stores your credit card info in plain text, so you have to choose between disabling it all the time, using something else for ordering stuff, or having it totally unprotected and visible to anyone who sits at your desk for a second and thieves online. it's not a classic memory "leak", but it still sucks at handling unused space and it's getting dumbed-down by the release.

the real problem is with the developers. a disturbing number of the important ones have stopped working on it, practically nobody's still there for reviews, they're at other companies or just are fed up with people too new to be competent, over-trademarking, soul-selling to google and the general apathy of their peers. right now, 2.0 is optimistically late 2006, maybe a ways into 2007. it's tied to the same gecko engine as the mozilla suite and has traditionally lagged a little in adoption to new shit. when they recently announced the suite was abandoned, they just lost all of the cross-platform people and a bunch of forward-momentum they provided. there was a lot of trickle-down benefit from the suite and who chose to develop it and aren't interested in joining current projects, let alone ones becoming a mess.

Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 9:35AM
If that happens it is an error of the website builder, a properly setup creditcard payment page should use https for starters and use the right type of form so that it doesn't happen.

Oh and a tip for about:config, you don't have to scroll that long page, just type what you are looking for in the filter at the top and press enter, you will end up with only those entries that match your searchstring.

Jacco (Your Choice BV)

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 12:42PM
there are a number of websites that trigger it, there's no way it should ever be allowed to autocomplete a 16-digit number. i've had it happen.

the other issue is you don't see the yellow shading alerting you if a form is encrypted when you're using non-default themes.

another serious issue is the bug POST handling that still double-submits form data, causing people to get billed twice when it happens.

jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 3 2005 : 10:03PM
The idea that 16 digit numbers are somehow more sensitive than 15 or 17 digit numbers is peculiar. Their basic argument probably goes you need to have OS security anyway, that the credit card companies don't care & haven't done anything about card number security, and that there's no way to tell what is and isn't sensitive.
This is what I call the Microsoft syndrome, where you look around and realize that the last person who left forgot to turn off the lights, and nobody has yet realized the building is empty...

The FireFox guys should spend more effort on recruiting programmers. FF is huge and has a big learning curve. I could fix your complaint above by hacking in a test into autocomplete, rejecting saving if a regular expression matched: “...-..-....” might be another good one for Americans in addition to 16 numerals. Coding that is easy, but finding the spot to do it, and making the regexp's configurable, would take a long time to figure out.

 
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 4 2005 : 5:14PM
Why should the webbrowser developer do all the work if the webpage programmer is too lazy or stupid to put in a AUTOCOMPLETE=OFF in his form?

Jacco

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 6:38AM
even if the developers aren't going to accomodate something webmasters do wrong commonly enough to be a problem, it's just totally crazy to have it complete sixteen-digit numbers. there are probably nine people who have to constantly type numbers with exactly that many digits in constantly on the face of the planet. i'm almost positive i've never typed 16 numbers in for something other than a credit card number, that's so easy and so wise to disable it kills me.
jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 2:46AM
I found the code ... and there isn't a useful comment in sight, nor a hint of how extensions hook in. I guess someone skipped reading RMS's style guide. It's objectified C++ code with abstracted data typing. Ug.

I don't see a regex library for their string type? That's hard to believe. No wildmat either. My enthusiasm for hacking this in is fading rapidly...

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 6:10PM
A webbrowser should perform according to the standards set by the W3C and not cater to lazy websitedevelopers, otherwise we'll end up with more crap like IE.

And I would seriously think about what else a website will have done wrong if their creditcard form is written so sloppily, that's not a good sign...

Jacco

lou sapphire
Member

Take the plan, spin it sideways.
685 Posts
9/02
Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 9:24PM
maybe its the way ive configured it...but i love firefox im speeding along with it unlike "ie" and have had zero probs?
costello steel
New Member

4 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 3:55PM
As most websites are built around the majority browser it is quite possible that there are crappy non w3c conforming sites out there. I know that the css I did for one site doesnt work properly in firefox the only solice is the client doesnt check the site in firefox
lou sapphire
Member

Take the plan, spin it sideways.
685 Posts
9/02
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 8:53PM
costello me old mucker im having serious computing probs and your the only one i trust to help me!!!!!!!
Loraine
Senior Member

1559 Posts
3/04
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 7:36AM
Just before I throw my PC out of the window ...I've been using Firefox for months and months, all working fine -- until this evening when I've been trying to update my blog with blogger and I started getting the "This document contains no data" alert. Which means I can't get into blogger, which means I'm annoyed and vexed. I had look around the Firefox forum -- very difficult to find any solution. Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas on how to fix it would gratefully appreciated.
jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 7:52AM
That sounds like a server problem, not anything to do with FireFox. Or maybe you use Comcast? They had trouble yesterday.
Loraine
Senior Member

1559 Posts
3/04
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 9:17AM
Thanks jrv, your comment prompted me to try IE which worked. When I got into the blogger status page in help there was a mention of difficulties being experienced with the advice to clear cookies. It is working now I'm pleased to say.


Edited to add I of course spoke too soon still wierd things going on -- maybe it's time for bed and I'll hope the good computer fairy fixes it while asleep.

Edited by - Loraine on 4/8/2005 9:38:30 AM

costello steel
New Member

4 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 1:41PM
Lou for help on computer problems please use my 0870 support number ;) or mail me or start a new thread - entitled my pc is broken who will nick the thieving winkies now?
squirtfan1
Member

Flower
435 Posts
8/04
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 3:04PM
cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 3:35PM
Nerd.
jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 9 2005 : 12:47AM
Guilty
cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 11 2005 : 2:34PM
Besides regular expressions and wildcard matching libraries (which I am surprised to hear the absence of and point out "some 19 year old developers may be brilliant slackers but they're still slackers") I hereby submit: a "creditcard" text <input> type. If that was integrated into the w3c standard, all browsers could be set to never autocomplete a field of that type.

I won't even try to take credit for it.

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Apr 11 2005 : 2:37PM
You're such a card.
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