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Posted - Dec 3 2012 : 6:19AM
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Posted - Dec 3 2012 : 4:41PM
I think we have some 1st time IR this year Jessica Nyx Sierra Saunders (New to porn) Madyline Monroe Mischa Brooks Jessie Roger Brooklyn Lee Chanel Preston Jennifer White [redacted by legal demand] Alexis Ford Allie Haze Riley Reid Hopes for 1st IR in 2013 Kendra Lust Ava Adams Tasha Reign Melina Mason Missy Martinez Nicole Aniston (A long shot but you nerve know, she could do an Jenna Haze type of comeback) Rachael Starr (Same with Nicole) Edited by - Infamous on 12/3/2012 4:56:54 PM
Hopes for 1st IR in 2013 Siri Ava Addams Jynx Maze Diamond Kitty Rachel Starr Nikki Delano Melina Mason Kimmy Olsen Aj Applegate Dillion Harper Jodi Taylor Staci Silverstone
Let's hope this means super sexy Melina Mason will treat herself & her fans to multiple IR adventures in 2013!
West Coast Prod þ@WestCoastProd @Melina_Mason how about consider doing some IR with us. will you consider? 6 Dec Melina Mason þ@Melina_Mason @WestCoastProd yea in 2013 i will start West Coast Prod þ@WestCoastProd @Melina_Mason can we be the first to book you though, will it be the first week of January 2013?
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Posted - Dec 8 2012 : 9:15PM
^ $20 said her 1st will be with Prince
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Posted - Dec 13 2012 : 5:30PM
Nicole Aniston is doing B/G again so there is some hope but you nerve know. It may not happen but I would like to Jessica Drake and Jessie Jane do an IR scene with a black man before they retire.
Chanel Preston and Kayden Kross in an IR gang-bang!!! ;)
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Posted - Dec 18 2012 : 9:13PM
Well this maybe not happen but I would like to see Samantha Saint but we all know it won't happen since Wicked doesn't do IR with there contract star. But I don't mind seeing Eva Notty and Devon do it.
^ Dude why don't you kept out of this topic since don't like IR. I see why IR topic on here get locked because someone will started crap on here. Edited by - Infamous on 12/19/2012 1:28:11 PM
Well Ava Adam on Twitter said that she is doing her 1st IR scene next week on her website. So I guess it will be with Prince or with Lexington Steele, also Gia DiMarco on twitter she just shot an IR or just got booked for one. So two have done there 1st IR.
Kimmy Olsen Melina Mason AJ Applegate Ava Addams Kendra lust Amy Anderssen Everyone knows about the regulars ( Ms Texas and Rachel Starr) but hey look at it on the dark side there is plenty of others out there. Jada Stevens, Mischa Brooks. Real fine classy women that have done IR and there careers is booming. Jada has been buttwoman and should retain the tittle. Mischa is amazing. I could go on and on. Phoenix Marie with her fine ass. Much respects to the men n women that do it.
Well, Jessica Drake has done G/G IR with Jada Fire, and she also stated in an interview that she "has her eye on Deep Threat" so maybe, when the time is right, it could happen. And Jesse Jane stated in a Roger Pipe interview that she has a list of guys that she wants to work with, and Lexington Steele is near the top. And if you ever meet Jesse Jane in person, you will instantly realize that she is both a "go for it" kind of girl, and also a genuinely nice person. Just because she hasn't done any IR scenes so far, does not mean she never will.
^ I'm not saying it will never happen with those two girls, but it's very unlikely. Stoya had to basically threaten DP with retiring in order for them to allow her to shoot an IR scene, and even when she did, they held off on releasing it for like 2 years. That's how much DP want their contract girls to shoot IR scenes. jessica drake is with Wicked, and only Kaylani Lei (who is not white) ever shoots with black men among their current contract girls. You'd have to go back to Julia Ann in 2007 to find a white Wicked girl working with a black guy. [edit: typo] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/10/2013 4:14:41 AM
janine lindemulder and julia ann as far as we were concerned hell would freeze over before they did interracial well hell froze over and they did it in very nasty sexy ways so drake and jessica jane and all that stick around to long will do it unless they retire
I think a lot of it has to do with the studios the girls work for the type of career they want and who they're surrounding themselves with. I tend to think as long as Jesse is at DIGITAL PLAYGROUND she'll never do IR because they don't seem to want it and do fine without doing and at this point in her career Jesse doesn't have the starpower and clout to make them do it. One could say Jesse will do it when she's not longer a DP contract girl but I don't see Jesse staying in porn if she isn't working for DP. Jessica Drake I wouldn't bet on either. If she really wanted to do IR she could've by now. I think she (and perhaps Jesse) will toss a black black performers name out there to give the impression they're open to it and keep some fans happy and hopeful. But I could be wrong. If Jessica or Jesse quit the business and have to come back to porn because they need to for the cash...perhaps if someone made the right offer they might do it. But as it stands now neither of them seem to have a burning (if any) desire and at this point in their career they don't hve to.
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Posted - Feb 10 2013 : 12:14PM
I don't understand why contract girls can't do an IR scenes with black men in porn. Vivid and ZT is the only ones who let there contract girls do IR in the past. I know most IR watcher are white like myself but there are some black guys who do watch IR why they can't get an black fanbase? If Jessica Drake did her 1st IR with an black man then it would be great but not in an Wicked movies because the scene will be a god damn condom in. Now if she did her 1st IR with Jules Jordan and Elegant Angel (LT) now I would buy it. Do the industy know who is watching porn or don't know there customer are because I see most black guys buy porn not just IR and black porn but white porn (Brazzers) because my friend worked at an adult video store, and he tell me bout it all the time. It would be nice if those companies would branch out an black fanbase if there contract girls did IR but it won't nerve happen so for IR fans (white and black) just stick to the girls who do IR and companies who shoot it.
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Posted - Feb 10 2013 : 12:27PM
Maybe you didn't already know but one girls just did her 1st on her website. So that is 1 down and 5 to go.
It's all about the audience. DIGITAL PLAYGROUND has done a IR movie and has had a few IR scenes in their movies and I'm guessing the sales results wasn't enough to move them to do more or have their contract girls do it. I'm pretty sure if they saw an big increase in sales or if the demand was truly there those scenes would've shown them. DP has a big audience and there stuff sells well, I'm sure they don't want to mess with that business model too much.
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Posted - Feb 11 2013 : 5:31PM
^ Well I why they failed because they didn't get there contract star to do IR, if they did then those movies would sale. Like I say before stick to companies that shoot IR.
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Posted - Feb 14 2013 : 5:08PM
Zoey Monroe is doing IR this year and well as anal too. Edited by - Infamous on 2/14/2013 5:13:00 PM
Interesting article by Aurora Snow on interracial , especially with new comers to the biz. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/05/interracial-sex-still-taboo-for-many-porn-stars.html
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Posted - Mar 13 2013 : 12:14PM
Here another interview by Aurora Snow on Current TV on the topic http://current.com/shows/the-young-turks/videos/adult-film-actress-aurora-snow-i-think-that-racism-actually-does-still-exist-in-porn He said LA Direct had 20% of there girls do IR, lucky we have guys like Mark Spiegler in the industry. Edited by - Infamous on 3/13/2013 1:28:09 PM
Aurora's article is right on the money. The thinking that doing IR scenes hurt your career is dead now. That thinking was dominant during 90s with feature companies like Vivid and Wicked who made a ton of money licensing their content to cable TV for PPV. The southern broadcasters didn't want any IR content because of their racist redneck subscribers and they didn't want their contract girls to be tainted by any black cock. But during 2000's era fans were no longer getting their porn from cable and PPV which was now replaced by DVD rental, online porn sites like Dogfart, Bang Bros, Brazzers, Kink.com, and of course piracy. Most of online sites were not only doing IR but much harder content and rough anal sex. Notice during 90s AVN always picked someone contract girl from Vivid, Wicked, or VCA as performer of the year. Nowadays its Speigler girls who dominate not Vivid girls. In fact you hardly ever hear about Vivid anymore and I think they stopped hiring contract girls. Also nobody wants to admit its true but the recession forced lot of holdouts to start doing IR scenes to get work. Personally I don't have a problem with women like Alexis Texas refusing to do IR scene. I think they are just hurting themselves leaving all that money on the table. I don't necessarily think they are racist. It could be their families are racist and they have enough drama to deal with already seeing their daughter do porn, especially women from racist redneck states. On the other hand, I do find it hard to fathom women who will fuck guys like Ron Jeremy and Dirty Harry but refuse to do scenes with attractive young black guys. ;-)
^ Is Alexis Texas still the #1 IR holdout for most IR fans? I would've thought everyone moved on by now. Actually, I think it's more interesting that she doesn't do IR at this point and let the people who care about this stuff have their unattainable/unreachable prize. For me the reality is that if Alexis Texas actually did an IR scene once you get past the "Wow! she finally did it..." I'm pretty sure the actual scene will be nothing special. Just like when people wanted to see her do anal and she finally did it and...nothing special.
I'm kinda surprised to hear that. Before I started visiting this site I assumed the percentage of non-contract porn girls who did IR was about 70% or so. With me personally, the majority of the girls I like or gravitate to do/did IR. There's only a small handful of girls who I like who don't and it doesn't bother me that they don't. It's nice when they do finally come around like...Priya Rai and Sienna West but if they never did IR it wouldn't matter. A good scene is more important to me than an IR one.
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Posted - Mar 13 2013 : 9:23PM
If I was any female pornstar of any color I wouldn't do Ron Jeremey. But you are right Speigler is the top agent in porn for an long time, and most of his girls do IR. Well I looked up the LA Direct pages and 19 out of 143 girls do IR so that is less. Well let get back to the topic, it look's like Ava Adams 1st IR will be up on her website next week it said on her Twitter. As for Jessica Nyx you won't be see any scene from her because she retire from porn because she is going to get marry but she have done I think 4 IR scenes or more. So hope Kendra Lust, Tasha Reign, Missy Martinez, and Melina Mason can do it for 2013
Me too but then she appeared in that rap video and more recently TMZ thing about her not doing IR. If I had to make a list of the most in demand ultimate IR holdouts stars it would be: 1. Jill Kelly (retired but escorting in Vegas) 2. Alexis Texas 3. Jesse Jane 4. Stormy Daniels 5. Jessica Drake (she may have done IR bj and/or one IR scene?) 6. Mercedez (retired, married) 7. Audrey Bitoni 8. Yurizan Beltran 9. Dylan Ryder 10. Vicky Vette (retired, has a website I think)
^ I guess I'd like to Jesse Jane do IR but I know she probably won't. I'd also like to see Yurizan Beltran do it...and I'm guessing she probably will at some point. She seems to be one of those girls who's "pacing" their career. First she was mostly just doing G/G then she moved on to B/G then after awhile started doing anal and now she seems to be doing "rough" stuff judging her KINK scene. I predict IR from her at some point.
BTW, the whole idea of a girl "pacing" themselves and/or holding out on doing certain acts over a long period of time hoping to extend a career is a very outdated business model unless the girl's a contract girl. A contract girl probably needs to pace their sex acts because she has a narrow audience because she's only appearing at one company with an audience who would get bored if she isn't able to give them something new over the course of her contract. However, with a "Gonzo" girl it's a completely different animal. A Gonzo girl needs to have a wide and diverse fanbase and sex acts to exploit to be able to get consistant work. Look at someone like Lisa Ann who seems to work non-stop even though she been in the porn biz for years. It's because she does some of everything and can hop around from genre to genre before she bores that audience. For the vanilla porn crowd she'll do some WICKED or DIGITAL PLAYGROUND, etc, stuff. For the IR fans she'll do some WCP, BLACK MARKET, etc, stuff. For the anal and harder stuff she'll do JULES JORDAN, EVIL ANGEL, etc, stuff. If you like Gangbangs, she'd done them, if you like features she's done them. Because she does all this stuff she has a huge and diverse fanbase who follow her stuff and keeps her in demand. She wasn't able to achieve this type of success until she stopped with the "pacing/holding out" mindset. Sasha Grey was a big hit right off the bat because she hit the ground running and did stuff that appealed to almost everyone by doing alittle of everything. Other pornstars are in the biz for years before they have any major success because they take years to get around to doing anal or IR or "harder" scenes. There are lots of girls in the biz who a big chunk of the porn audience knows nothing about or won't see them perform until or unless they start performing the sex acts that they watch. By holding out on certain things they're needlessly limiting their audience, their work options and careers. End of rant.
Lisa Ann should stay out of the matter she had/has an agency she promote herself and has contacts others don't have also she sells well which surely help , She was on of those who paced her career though , her first IR wasn't in her first yea. Julia Ann on the other hand did IR and anal when she was still a contract star with Wicked
^ she did one scene in 1995 ,a threesome, then stopped for over ten years , she resumed to do IR in 2006 , she did plenty from then on, including two anals with Mandingo , her own website contains mostly IR , her only film as a director (Bases Loaded) was IR , I'm not complaining about her, but she retained from doing IR for over ten years
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Posted - Mar 16 2013 : 5:32PM
^ You are close but Nina Hartley did IR when she first started in porn which was 1984 over 30 years in porn.
My whole point was that she sells well because she has a big diverse audience because she does so many porn genres. Early in in her career when she was pacing herself she didn't have anywhere near the fame she has now because she wasn't doing the types of scenes that would get noticed by certain segments of the porn audience. It's not a smart move for a pornstar to limit what they do. Especially in today's porn world where there just aren't as many companies and oppurtunites out there. I don't think a girl needs to start out doing anal IR DP gangbangs in the very begining but they can't get away with holding out on anal or IR or more extreme stuff for years today like some of the girls were able to years ago.
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Posted - Mar 18 2013 : 11:06PM
If any girls doesn't want to do IR then fine it her choice but IR fans should watch the one who do. BTW I know most porn buyer are white but there are some black guys who do watch porn but not just black porn but white porn too because I seen black guys at my adult video store that I go to buying an Brazzers DVD or an IR movies from WCP or JJV. BTW speaking of 1st IR Here is an preview of Ava Adams 1st IR The dude doesn't look like an Prince or Lexington Steele but hope he doesn't have an limp dick because I hate that in porn scenes when the dude can't kept it hard
I think Lisa Ann made it cool for some A-listers to do frequent IR anal. Don't flame me. It's just a theory I have. That women is a gift from the gods. She ages like wine too.
You guys probably already know this but Tanner Mayes did her first interracial last year. It's anal too. You know, if you're into that sort of thing. lol. and kinda off-topic: Lizzie Tucker and Erica Fontes are two of my favorite girls who do IR.
Well back then there were some superstars around say Jenna Jameson Today there's a whole great new market for MILFS and she fit it well besides I believe that back then she and others were somewhat concerned about how they were judged by doing some kinky stuff , i mean anal , dp , multiple men and so , today I think most of them don't give a fuck to what people think, they look much more free , more self confident. Also in the last few years there has been a flooding of amateur stuff with people doing things even nastier than that in porn, swinging, cuckolding, gang bangs , humiliation , fisting. That showed that much more were doing that without filming or putting anything on the internet , to stay prude so to speak was ridiculous and still is in my view, though I respect and support those who don't want to perform some acts Edited by - LCF on 3/19/2013 5:11:19 PM