First time interracial (page 13)

Author	Post
NightTrain4527 Member 357 Posts 2/14	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 6:12PM Lolly Ink Bangbros [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 6:24PM after the review ir council announces that Lolly Ink first interracial is overturned. replay 2nd down. [Link]
Iramaj1 Senior Member 1397 Posts 11/08	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 6:39PM realtip wrote: Iramaj1 wrote: and this guy is clearly NOT black. Click to expand This comment is so ridiculous that I feel like an idiot for even bothering to respond to it. As far as I know, this counts as her first released IR scene. Click to expand Well read the tweet from Lolly herself about the scene and your feelings about yourself will be justified. Bangbros is trying to pass this guys scenes off as IR w/ women who don't do IR. [Link]
ghost88 Member 615 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 8:21PM This alex jones guy is clear apart of bangbros plan. They are clearly selling him as black, but they aren't telling the dodgers. Monsters of cock has been an all interracial for years now, and they even label this scene as interracial. They are tricking none interracial girls like lolly ink into doing this site, and selling it as their first interracial. This is their plan, but it won't work for long. I think maybe they have shot several dodger girls with this guy and plan to sell them as interracial. I think bangbros gets tired of having to pick from the interracial only list, and they want to use a bigger variety of girls like they can for all of their other sites. Now technically this guy really is mixed with black. He said so himself. If he continues to be sold as black, I think dodgers will not work with him as they are afraid that they will be seen as doing interracial. Even though they don't have a problem with him as he could pass for something else completely. [Link]

Megabuster90 Member 6 Posts 7/13	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 9:01PM I would love to see Jasmine Caro do an interracial scene for the first time. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 9:32PM ghost88 wrote: This alex jones guy is clear apart of bangbros plan. They are clearly selling him as black, but they aren't telling the dodgers. Click to expand You mean that someone has to tell them? Are they blind that they can't see for themselves? Gee, I guess if nobody ever came out and said that Lex Steele is black, maybe more white girls would shoot with him too. This whole issue is just dumb. It reminds me of a scene I saw where Morgan Layne told Khan Tusion that she had never done IR before. When he pointed out to her that she had indeed done a scene with Ramon (also on BangBros), she replied that "Ramon isn't black." Khan then correctly pointed out that, 200 years ago, she could have owned him for $200. The porn industry is so fucking warped on race that it now has white girls running around saying that the black dudes they fuck on camera aren't really black. They're so afraid of having to deal with the industry's IR stigma, as if being a porn chick isn't already a stigma. Shit is fucking retarded. Edited by - realtip on 4/15/2014 9:35:12 PM [Link]
Idlewild66 Deactivated User 721 Posts 12/11	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 9:48PM ^ Notice that Alexis Texas has never fucked BB Ramon or Carlo. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 10:34PM realtip wrote: Shit is fucking retarded. Click to expand This bears repeating. [Link]
IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 15 2014 : 11:41PM Someone said to check her Twitter... It wasn't an IR scene it's was just a monster of cocks scene.— Lolly Ink (@LollyInkxx) [invalid URL removed]April 15, 2014 Click to expand <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets" charset="utf-8"></script> Let's keep this moving peeps. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 6:38AM Idlewild66 wrote: ^ Notice that Alexis Texas has never fucked BB Ramon or Carlo. Click to expand Ramon says he's Latin , but truth be told he changes his ethnicity conveniently [Link]
IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 6:57AM Ramon is Afro-Cuban, like a lot of Dominicans, Cubans have a large portion of people with African blood. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:34AM ^ Well since Lolly saying it wasn't IR is enough , I thought that Ramon saying he's not black was also enough. [Link]
IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:41AM The girls never considered it IR, it's not IR. Same as Karlo and Bruno. Edited by - irlover91 on 4/16/2014 7:43:24 AM [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:52AM ^ You realize the nonsensical meaning of this, do you? [Link]

IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:53AM No, sir. Elaborate. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 9:13AM ^ You said that it is IR if the girl thinks it is, reality is ruled out to explain with a paradox if Lex or Mandingo say to a girl they are not black but extremely tanned Aryans and the girl buys this it's not IR because she doesn't think it is. Either the guy with Lolly IS black or he isn't,if he is it's IR regardless what Lolly thinks. Ramon doesn't consider himself a black he says he's a Latin and he says this to the girls too according to your previous statement none of his scenes could be deemed IR because no girl thought it was, yet you keep saying he's black thus his scenes are IR. isn't this contradictory? BTW I am Aryan and I can get VERY tanned and my mother and brother can get even darker than some blacks , all of us can get darker than Alex Jones , my mother can get as dark as Skin Diamond and one of my brothers even darker than that. This getting sunbaths at the beach otherwise me , my mother and especially my other brother are very fair skinned. Another thing Alex Jones' dick is definitely black, coal black , mine can reach such colour only cooked and burnt, I tend to protect it from the Sun though it's strong down here , very , can burn one's skin in a couple hours if you don't pay attention Edited by - LCF on 4/16/2014 9:17:27 AM [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 9:58AM Idlewild66 wrote: Notice that Alexis Texas has never fucked BB Ramon or Carlo. Click to expand I was honestly never a fan of hers, and never found her attractive. So No, I never noticed this, and never cared. IRLover91 wrote: The girls never considered it IR, it's not IR. Same as Karlo and Bruno. Click to expand It is true that it may not be considered IR by porn's definition. I already gave porn's defintion of IR earlier in this thread. But let me reiterate what IR is and isn't by porn's definition. What IR is, by Porn's Definition: It is only IR by porn's definition if a white woman fucks a dark-skinned black man. Him being black alone isn't enough. He must be dark-skinned in order for it to qualify as IR, by porn's definition. As we can see in this thread, there cannot be any doubt or confusion as to the male's ethnicity or nationality. Hence, his complexion must be dark so that there can be no doubt that he's truly straight-up black. What IR is NOT, by Porn's Definition: 1.) If a white woman fucks a non-white man of any other ethnicity besides black (e.g., Asian, Latino, etc.), then that is NOT IR, by porn's definition. Is she fucking a man of a different race? Yes. Is it considered IR by porn's definition? No. 2.) If a white man fucks a black woman, or woman of any other ethnicity, regardless of complexion, then that is NOT IR, by porn's definition. It can only be defined as IR in porn if the man is black and dark-skinned. 3.) If a white woman fucks a black man who is light-complexioned, then that is not IR, by porn's definition. Again, he must be dark-skinned enough to remove any possible doubt of his blackness. Would she still be fucking a black man? Yes. Would it be IR by porn's definition? No. So Yes, they may be right that they haven't done IR, by porn's definition. That doesn't mean that they haven't fucked black men on camera. By porn's definition, they are two different things. So even though most of the IR dodgers have done IR scenes by the actual definition (i.e., sex with someone of a different race), they have not done it by porn's definition. I understand that it makes no sense, but we're talking about porn here. It's not supposed to make sense. Edited by - realtip on 4/16/2014 10:01:47 AM [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 12:39PM But in all this definition talk, the attitude of the females is whats most important, they want to hide and deny any sexual intercourse with men of African decent. thats whats startling, and really encourages exhibiting a 19th century mentality, still. I myself have a system of having good faith towards performers for 3 years since entering. after that period I refuse to be interested with pornstars not doing any type of ir by then, so you're gonna have 25 scenes with Ferrara or 19 scenes with Deen but 1 with Prince is too complicated and must heavily depend on the script , . But of course I salute all ir friendly starlets . [Link]
Superdeluxe Deactivated User 211 Posts 1/14	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 1:03PM NightTrain4527 wrote: Lolly Ink Bangbros Click to expand Just a way to sell memberships. Funny how the still looks black, but he is clearly not. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 1:38PM realtip wrote: What IR is, by Porn's Definition: It is only IR by porn's definition if a white woman fucks a dark-skinned black man. Him being black alone isn't enough. He must be dark-skinned in order for it to qualify as IR, by porn's definition. As we can see in this thread, there cannot be any doubt or confusion as to the male's ethnicity or nationality. Hence, his complexion must be dark so that there can be no doubt that he's truly straight-up black. I understand that it makes no sense, but we're talking about porn here. It's not supposed to make sense. Click to expand Couple things , Sledgehammer has always been defined black and his scenes IR although he wasn't as dark complexioned as most I agree porn has no logic especially when you think that IR in porn is a commercial category to be sold , those looking for IR want a white or Asian girl fucked by black males preferably extremely well endowed. So you label what those buying are looking for, if you label everything that is in fact interracial such as Asians with whites , black females with white males or Asian males, you'll confuse your customers and lose some sales because they will not be so sure about what they're buying any more , thus may wait to get informed and very likely have a second thought or buy something they're certain are IR the way they want it. But in this particular case the porn producers already labelled a scene as Interracial, many customers agreed some blacks such as yourself agreed as well but a small group of self proclaimed repository of the truth decided it was no IR and this originated this debate in a thread the very self group keep diverting from its original purpose Edited by - LCF on 4/16/2014 1:40:43 PM [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 2:05PM rafalas wrote: But in all this definition talk, the attitude of the females is whats most important, they want to hide and deny any sexual intercourse with men of African decent. thats whats startling, and really encourages exhibiting a 19th century mentality, still. Click to expand They are reflecting the attitude of the industry as a whole. As I've said many times before, if the industry didn't make such a big deal about it, then neither would the performers. They work in an industry that is run by insecure white men that keep telling them that if they perform scenes with black men, then they will make less money, or become less popular, or ruin their careers, and other such nonsense. And they believe it. This is an industry that views white women fucking black men as somehow different than people of any other race fucking, and that believes it's perfectly OK to discriminate. If the industry itself didn't exercise such stupidity, then neither would the performers. These broads only act like this because the porn industry not only allows it, but encourages it. If that weren't the case, then it wouldn't be happening. Look at the agencies, for example. You'll notice how some girls who have done IR suddenly stop doing it when they sign with certain agencies, and others who haven't done it will start doing it when they leave certain agencies. You'll also notice that almost all the girls who are represented by these agencies are not listed for IR. In contrast, you'll notice that other agencies that have more IR-friendly attitudes are different, with all of their girls being open to IR. This lets you know that it has more to do with the agents (along with directors and others in the industry) than with the performers. And unfortunately, it's a lot of these same people who hold most of the power in the industry. [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 3:27PM ^ that is a colossal issue (the agents spreading lies or blatantly forbidding doing ir). but thats why I give those 3 years of prep for a star, any contract is up by that time and hopefully they switch till then, everybody has got to take responsibility for eradicating the negative tendencies in the industry. look what happened with the condom laws, the government agencies could've probably been more lenient if the porners didn't decide to just show the middle fingers. every time you can reach a compromise but in CA it seems that the fashionable thing is going from 1 extreme to another. [Link]
Bobmarblee Senior Member 1462 Posts 3/14	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 3:34PM IRLover91 wrote: Someone said to check her Twitter... It wasn't an IR scene it's was just a monster of cocks scene.— Lolly Ink (@LollyInkxx) [invalid URL removed]April 15, 2014[/url] Click to expand <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets" charset="utf-8"></script> Let's keep this moving peeps. Click to expand Thsi tweet was so funny when i first saw it. It clearly said in the title of the scene "Blonde girl swallows some BIG BLACK COCK", I mean that the name of the title and that guy has to be some kind of mixed race black. [Link]
IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 6:24PM Well, Jones had another scene released today, but for NA and they didn't call it IR. Guess he's race convenient too. [Link]

PrimeRandall Member 775 Posts 8/12	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 6:40PM I think that site (MOC) had a scene with Rico and a girl who's been in black girl titles and I think is considered black. I have no idea what they labelled her on the site though. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 6:50PM Bobmarblee wrote: It clearly said in the title of the scene "Blonde girl swallows some BIG BLACK COCK", I mean that the name of the title and that guy has to be some kind of mixed race black. Click to expand On his Twitter profile, he clearly says right there that he's "Mixed Race." In America, this technically means that you might as well say he's black. Take our President, for example. He is mixed-race. But when was the last time you ever heard anyone call him our first mixed-race President? No one ever says that. Despite being only half-black, he is still always referred to as our first black President. Halle Berry is identified as the first black actress to win a Best Actress Oscar. She is never called the first mixed-race actress to win that award, but the first black actress. Also, every role she plays is as a black woman. In America, being "mixed race" basically means you're black. You'll also notice that most mixed-race people refer to themselves as black. This is bebause it's just probably much more convenient for them to do that since they know that's how everyone sees them anyway. Not only this, but they more than likely will identify culturally as black. So yes, this dude is black. And if you say he's not black just because of his complexion, then you've also ruled out a large percentage of the rest of the black population from being black too. [Link]
Magnif Member 122 Posts 1/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:29PM What IR is, by Porn's Definition What IR is NOT, by Porn's Definition Click to expand There is no uniform definition of 'ir' in the porn industry. Every company might use a different definition. MOST porn companies categorize scenes between black woman and white men scenes as interracial and use light-skin guys in interracial scenes. So you're definitely wrong on those points. Can't wait 'til we get rid of this word. btw, Naughty America has Lolly Ink's scene with Karlo tagged as interracial as well [Link]
ViolentSaint Member 292 Posts 12/10	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:30PM Not all people do that. But for celebrities it's a mixed bag. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 7:43PM IRLover91 wrote: Well, Jones had another scene released today, but for NA and they didn't call it IR. Guess he's race convenient too. Click to expand I think this is a good thing, and that more scenes should be that way. Just because a scene is IR doesn't mean that it always has to be labelled that way, or that it has to play on the IR angle. I've always said that porn should shoot more IR scenes without the focus on race. For example, Brazzers recently released a scene with Amy Anderssen and Jovan Jordan. But unlike most other IR scenes, this scene has absolutely nothing to do with race. It's just like any other Brazzers scene. The male role could be played by a male performer of any race, black or white, and the issue of race is never mentioned. It is very rare to see an IR shot this way where even though it is an IR scene, it is never emphasized, and is not in any other way different from any other non-IR scene. So yeah, if more IR scenes would be shot this way without the IR-focus, that would be a step in the right direction for porn. Magnif wrote: Every company might use a different definition. MOST porn companies categorize scenes between black woman and white men scenes as interracial and use light-skin guys in interracial scenes. Click to expand Maybe they do, and maybe they don't. That's not the point. Even if they do, the point is that it is not viewed as IR in the same way that BM/WF IR is viewed in the industry. [Link]
Magnif Member 122 Posts 1/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 8:44PM realtip wrote: Maybe they do, and maybe they don't. That's not the point. Click to expand They absolutely do and it was your point in the post I quoted you in. Made with an excessive amount of bold text. Your new point is fine, I guess. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 9:08PM ^Actually, the point is what you apparently missed. [Link]
fanman44 Deactivated User 474 Posts 1/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 11:07PM realtip wrote: ^I'm a very light-complexioned black man. I am not biracial. Both of my parents are African-American. All four of my grandparents are African-American. And, to my knowledge, there are are no white people to be found in my family tree within at least the last four generations. Native-American, yes. But no white people. We just happen to have a bunch of light-skinned black people in my family. But we are black, nonetheless. Yet, if I had a dollar for everytime somone asked me, "Are you mixed?," or "What race are you?," or look at me strangely when I identify myself only as black, then I'd have a ton of dollars. So if I were a porn actor, what this means is that I could fuck non-IR white girls because, by porn's absurd racial views, I am light enough to be "not black," even though I really am (the guy in the Lolly Ink MOC scene is darker than I am, and therefore he's clearly black to me). One would think that people would have figured out by now that we come in all shades, but I guess some people still haven't discovered that yet. Thus, just because they don't come out and say that dude is black doesn't mean that he isn't. All you have to do is look at him to see that he is. And just because they don't call it an IR scene doens't mean that it isn't. Not saying it doesn't make it any less true. Basically, it's just 21st-century "passing." And honestly, can you blame these guys for doing it? Think about it. The U.S. porn industry is a racist industry. So if you're a black male performer who can "pass" as something else, are you going to say that you're black and severely limit the amount of work you can get, or are you going to say that you're something else so that you can fuck all the hot white girls who otherwise won't fuck you if you say that you're black? The choice sounds easy to me. And if these girls don't think they're fucking black guys on camera, then that partly explains why they're doing porn. They're certainly not in porn because they're geniuses. It's basically just a way of getting girls to do IR without letting them know they're doing IR. It's like saying, "We'll have her fuck a black guy, but as long as we don't come out and say* that he's black, it won't count as IR."* It's really stupid that these kind of tricks have to still be played. Click to expand realtip. Im not trying to offend, but if you dont think you dont have biracial ancestry you're sadly mistaken. The average African-American is 10-15% white, and if you're lightskinned your level of european ancestry is higher. Look it up if you dont believe me [Link]
fanman44 Deactivated User 474 Posts 1/13	Posted - Apr 16 2014 : 11:10PM realtip wrote: ^I'm a very light-complexioned black man. I am not biracial. Both of my parents are African-American. All four of my grandparents are African-American. And, to my knowledge, there are are no white people to be found in my family tree within at least the last four generations. Native-American, yes. But no white people. We just happen to have a bunch of light-skinned black people in my family. But we are black, nonetheless. Yet, if I had a dollar for everytime somone asked me, "Are you mixed?," or "What race are you?," or look at me strangely when I identify myself only as black, then I'd have a ton of dollars. So if I were a porn actor, what this means is that I could fuck non-IR white girls because, by porn's absurd racial views, I am light enough to be "not black," even though I really am (the guy in the Lolly Ink MOC scene is darker than I am, and therefore he's clearly black to me). One would think that people would have figured out by now that we come in all shades, but I guess some people still haven't discovered that yet. Thus, just because they don't come out and say that dude is black doesn't mean that he isn't. All you have to do is look at him to see that he is. And just because they don't call it an IR scene doens't mean that it isn't. Not saying it doesn't make it any less true. Basically, it's just 21st-century "passing." And honestly, can you blame these guys for doing it? Think about it. The U.S. porn industry is a racist industry. So if you're a black male performer who can "pass" as something else, are you going to say that you're black and severely limit the amount of work you can get, or are you going to say that you're something else so that you can fuck all the hot white girls who otherwise won't fuck you if you say that you're black? The choice sounds easy to me. And if these girls don't think they're fucking black guys on camera, then that partly explains why they're doing porn. They're certainly not in porn because they're geniuses. It's basically just a way of getting girls to do IR without letting them know they're doing IR. It's like saying, "We'll have her fuck a black guy, but as long as we don't come out and say* that he's black, it won't count as IR."* It's really stupid that these kind of tricks have to still be played. Click to expand Most African Americans come from West Africa. There is no one native to that region as light as you or Alex Jones. Have you not thought about the possibility that the race mixing occured before 4 generations ago, as it often did with most people who are considered "light-skinned" When I go back to the early 1800s, most of my ancestors are listed as mulattos. No idea where the European came from, but its there [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Apr 17 2014 : 12:07AM fanman44 wrote: realtip. Im not trying to offend, but if you dont think you dont have biracial ancestry you're sadly mistaken. The average African-American is 10-15% white, and if you're lightskinned your level of european ancestry is higher. Look it up if you dont believe me Click to expand I'm sure I probably do have white ancestry somewhere in my racial makeup. Most Americans have mixed-race ancestry. But what I said is that I am not biracial, as biracial means that one's parents are of different races. Many people have assumed this to be the case with me, but it isn't. I mentioned this as a reminder that light-complexioned doesn't mean biracial. fanman44 wrote: Have you not thought about the possibility that the race mixing occured before 4 generations ago, as it often did with most people who are considered "light-skinned" Click to expand Again, I'm sure it probably did. But if you have to go beyond four generations to find it, does it really count anymore? [Link]

Steve056 Member 72 Posts 6/13	Posted - Apr 18 2014 : 8:28PM This thread really has gone to the dogs. [Link]
kingdarius Deactivated User President of the IDGAF Coalition 3288 Posts 2/10	Posted - Apr 21 2014 : 11:56PM i have no clue where to post this so imma just leave it here....anybody wondering if mia malkova or natalia starr is a possibility should just check out the sheer awkwardness of this video youtube its clear (to me at least) they want no part of dat life lol and to be honest i never thought they would [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 3:51AM , good I'm not a fan of either or find them attractive cause thats no loss right there. [Link]
IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 4:37AM Natalie will do it, her sister does it and she was open to talking to Ace. She even says not yet instead of no. Mia and Dani probably won't, Dani already hit us the IR porn is racist to black men line so you can write her off. I don't think Mia has a problem doing it, I just don't think she will. I don't think she's a racist though or that she feels superior, she seemed receptive to Ace. Abigail was the only one who seems visibly disturbed by the question. [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 4:42AM https://twitter.com/AaliyahLove69/status/458409739492147200 this right here is Aaliyah Love gearing up for Prince, although she already had that non-canonical ir with Kenni Styles last year. Edited by - rafalas on 4/22/2014 4:43:33 AM [Link]
IRLover91 Deactivated User 1091 Posts 11/13	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 7:50AM A-Love is pure sexy. [Link]
tempAct- Member 14 Posts 4/14	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 9:49AM Lol, racially unambiguous Black guys may just be the most 'noped' group in the porn industry; however, like some ITT mentioned, I doubt the female talent being disgusted at the thought of working with them, i.e. attraction issue, is actually the reason for their noping the fuck out, in a lot of cases. Again, fuck the current industry definition of "IR". [Link]
Bobmarblee Senior Member 1462 Posts 3/14	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 11:03AM kingdarius wrote: i have no clue where to post this so imma just leave it here....anybody wondering if mia malkova or natalia starr is a possibility should just check out the sheer awkwardness of this video youtube its clear (to me at least) they want no part of dat life lol and to be honest i never thought they would Click to expand LOL this video was so awkward and awesome. I like Mia but she never struck me as the type of girl that would do IR anyway. [Link]
Bobmarblee Senior Member 1462 Posts 3/14	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 11:04AM i read on twitter that Dani Danials is launching her website and she is suppose to be doing her from IR on there. [Link]
kingdarius Deactivated User President of the IDGAF Coalition 3288 Posts 2/10	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 4:21PM IRLover91 wrote: Natalie will do it, her sister does it and she was open to talking to Ace. She even says not yet instead of no. Click to expand natalie has told me (and others) straight up no on her tumblr so idk why you're so confident she will [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 4:36PM http://www.waybig.com/blog/2011/10/26/amateurcollegesex-olivia-rides-tyes-pole/ It appers Alexis Monroe the 2nd did the deed in 2011. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 5:06PM Roxy Rox for MoC [Link]
arpetwe New Member 1 Posts 4/14	Posted - Apr 22 2014 : 7:08PM rafalas wrote: http://www.waybig.com/blog/2011/10/26/amateurcollegesex-olivia-rides-tyes-pole/ It appers Alexis Monroe the 2nd did the deed in 2011. Click to expand Looks like she and Britney Amber have fucked a LOT of "gay actors" ... [Link]
kingdarius Deactivated User President of the IDGAF Coalition 3288 Posts 2/10	Posted - Apr 23 2014 : 3:51AM rafalas wrote: https://twitter.com/AaliyahLove69/status/458409739492147200 this right here is Aaliyah Love gearing up for Prince, although she already had that non-canonical ir with Kenni Styles last year. Edited by - rafalas on 4/22/2014 4:43:33 AM Click to expand i'll pass on the vanilla orgy....hopefully the ir one has a good cast like the last one so i can check it out on the site....they'll prolly put the dodgers on the cover again smh [Link]
Rickastley New Member 2 Posts 4/14	Posted - Apr 23 2014 : 9:37PM davidj69 wrote: I would love to see posts of girls first time doing interracial. Any pictures and links would be great Click to expand There are a great many issues confronting the adult sexual media industry (or, what we call “the pornography industry”) these days. The ease of piracy through free downloading via bit torrents and “tube sites” and filesharing sites like RapidShare….though there is beginning to be a pushback on that . The overall economic recession that is cutting in on profits. The availability of DIY porn via camshows and personal “at home” sites, where it seems anyone with a webcam, a digital camera, and some HTML or PHP knowledge can set up their own money making venture with ease. The threat of governmental intervention at the first sign of moral panic. But, of all those threats, none is more intrusive and more important and potentially more destructive than an old and festering sore that on occasion threatens to explode: the subject of racism and racial discrimination within the porn industry. The quasilegal status of porn has created plenty of subgenres where people of color can make inroads and produce explicit hardcore material for their benefit…and on occasion, there has even been attempts to create interracial porn that expresses the best of communion between different races. Unfortunately, there has also been a history of interracial porn bringing out the worst and rankest of stereotyping for all races involved. This is especially true of the kind of interracial porn featuring Black men and White women, which is often reduced to the basest theme of “BIG BLACK NGGA GANGSTA/PIMP WITH HUGE DCK ASSAULTS PURE WHITE GIRL(S)!!! This “sub-subgenre”, if you will, is mostly justified as playing to the fantasies and “taboos” of their targeted audiences of older White men who still hang on tightly to the worst KKK stereotypes of Black men as wild lustful animals seeking White women for their prey. Now, it should be said up front that this is far from the only depiction of Black men in IR porn; there are far, far more progressive and humane content which actually protrays both the Black men and their White female suitors as free and equal human beings capable of feelings and genuine empathy and healthy consensual lusts. Problem is, though, that the former one seems to be the one that makes the most money and sells the most product when it comes to that particular subgenre…and it has many aspiring Black male performers in a particular bind of either accepting the more rancid roles and getting paid (and also getting their hands and dicks on decent looking White performers who don’t mind doing Black men with their oversized endowments); or not doing so and not getting the roles that may help pay their rent. And then, there is also the perspective of the White female performer who may, for whatever reason, be very resistant to performing with Black men. Either they can’t handle the usual size of the dick, or they are persuaded to forgo IR sex until their brand names are more well established and they can gain more economic firepower, or in the most extreme case, they really are that bigoted against Black men. Or, maybe, they just aren’t into Black men and just want to stay within their own comfort zone. In any case, all this is enough to make a Black male performer holla, so to speak…but until now, no one has been moved to action. Until now, that is. Justin Long is not a particularly esteemed name in IR porn; he doesn’t have his own label like Lexington Steele or Mr. Marcus or Sean Michaels or Jack Napier; or the status and reputation or a Tyler Knight or Nat Turner. He is…or was…simply a mid-level performer who did the daily grind performing plenty of IR porn scenes for plenty of labels. Yet, last week, with his announcement that he would be discontinuing doing IR porn due to what he considered to be rampant racism and discrimination against Black men overall, he has effectively opened up a Pandora’s box of controversy and strong feelings about the state of the porn industry in general. In a long essay first released to porn venues across the Internet (including AINews.com [ here ] and LukeIsBack.com [ here ]), Long explains and justifies his decision. Some sample snippage: [....] Today I have canceled what work I had in LA and informed my agents that effective immediately, I will no longer be doing any sort of IR porn. This decision was not easy. I am not racist as I have stated and obviously could not be with a White mother and family. I will suffer from this decision no doubt, but I feel the mental anguish will be less of a burden than the financial. I feel horrible thinking that this is the only way for people to know exactly how I feel, and more over the only way for me to yell out, if you will, ”what the fuck, this is bullshit!” Some will say, ”Well, you are being racist yourself in this decision.” I would have to agree. It is wrong for anyone to say they won’t work with someone because of skin color or nationality, however, what is a Black star to do if he/she is fed up with the racial profiling he/she has to endure everyday in this industry? This is not just about getting between a contract star’s legs. This is about, the fact that every solid thing that a black star is not allowed to earn in the adult industry can be led back to three simple things; Agents telling girls ”no interracial” or convincing them not to do IR, big companies refusing to shoot a fair percentage of content involving Black talent, and girl being given the choice of whether or not they want to choose co-talent solely on the basis of skin color or nationality. This whole situation saddens me to no end. I am pissed off that I served in the military to protect the freedoms of the same people that would discriminate. I am pissed off that I served in the military and this is what my country does for me, i.e.: nothing, and continues to allow discrimination in my work place. So, the normal way this goes down is a girls statement, ”I don’t do IR I’m sorry, it’s nothing personal”. How the fuck could it not be personal when a girl tells you that she will not work with you because of the color of your skin? Even worse it’s not the color of your skin, obviously, because these same girls work with European and Latin darker-skinned male stars that are not labeled Black. The same contract and non-contract stars that say they don’t do IR are still working with non-White performers. To make it worse a percentage of them are getting fucked off screen by Black males, either talent or civilian. So what really does the term IR mean? It sure in the hell doesn’t mean anyone not of that girl’s nationality. For example, if an Asian girl doesn’t do IR, it should mean she only works with Asian male stars, right? Well, that’s not the case. It means she will work with anyone that is not labeled Black by the Adult Industry. Long sheds special bitterness towards the many White female pern performers who refuse to do IR videos for whatever reason: Is being Black a target? Is it the kiss of death in the industry. A couple of male performers I know are Black, but very light skinned, and seem to work with these girls on a regular basis as they have not been Labled Black. Non-IR girls have no issues shooting with them, so you would think maybe it’s just the color of the skin. But then you get to darker European, Asian, and Latino male talent, all of a sudden brown skin has no bearing! So, does ”it’s not personal” continue to fly as a real statement? Absolutely not. Girls and agents like to say that saving IR extends the life of a girl’s career. I have very serious doubts about that and will use a star I have worked with many times as an example. This girl has shot IR from day one in the industry, as far as I am aware. Very early in her career I had shot with her more than any male in the industry — White, Black or other. Now she is arguably the biggest contract star in the world. So tell me exactly how did IR extend or hurt her career. The fact is that non-IR girls use Black male talent as stepping stones and that is morally bankrupt in thought and action. Girls are permitted to do IR and then not do IR, and then start to do it again when their bookings slows down. The sad part is that Black male talent are willing to shoot with these girls which basically is telling them it’s ok to exhibit this morally lacking behavior, and it’s alright to disrupt our income. Black males are telling these girls that we are ok with the scraps that they are throwing our way. The fact is that every girl that refuses to do IR is saying (regardless if they speak the words) I’m doing what’s best for me and I don’t care what happens to you (Mr. Black male talent). Every girl that refuses or dips in and out of doing IR effects every Black male star’s annual income. If contract stars did IR, you’re damn right I and others would have more scenes because we have directors that would kill to shoot those scenes. It is the same with all non-IR shooting females. Black males have no problem if the girls are selective in their choosing of who they shoot with and who the won’t shoot with. That’s fine. But to just say ”sorry your Black?” Hello! Wake the fuck up!” it’s offensive, and then to follow it up with ”it’s nothing personal,” that just makes us even more angry because there is no way to take it but personal. The girl will take 10 cocks in a day — in the ass, pussy, and mouth and multiple cocks at a time — as long as none of them are Black? Come on! We are Black, not stupid! Naturally, when you are a young Black man who decides to make a stand, you get your share of critics, and most certainly Justin Long has plenty of them. Some commentators at the Lukeisback.com thread have all but called Long out for hypocrisy in calling out White performers for not wanting to do scenes with him, while simultaneously promoting IR movies which could be construed of promoting the very same racial stereotypes that he condemned. Others have accused him of being a “reverse racist” in condemning White female performers; while still others have accused him of grandstanding for personal promotion, citing that the industry is more about making a profit than anything else. To be fair, Long has more than held his own against his critics, and has stuck to his principles regardless of the potential consequences to his career. For that, at least, he deserves justified credit and respect. But….the issue of interracial porn stereotyping of people of color has been sort of a dormant issue not to be raised, lest ammo is given to the likes of Gail Dines and the antipornography feminists who are most likely to raise the racism card when attacking porn for its sins of aggression against women. At a time when porn is under a great deal of assault from so many different angles (state censorship, piracy, the mandatory condom mandate, the recession), it’s not at all uncommon to surpress touchy issues that may further divide and fracture fragile alliances. Nevertheless, the underlying issue of racial discrimination in porn is pretty damn important enough, and anything that even comes close to rationalizing bigotry and inequality simply cannot be left to the Robert Jensens and Gail Dineses of the world to resolve all to themselves by wiping adult entertainment off the map. As noted in these pages before, there most certainly is a legitimate issue with racial stereotyping in porn, and if it also is proven that porn is underpaying Black performers (and not just Black male performers, either), it could not have come at a worser time for the industry. Flipping it off as simply the fault of pursuing the mighty dollar simply won’t do any more; maybe it’s high time we listened to people like Justin Long (and female performers like Monica Foster and Marie Luv ) and tackled the issue of racial discrimination in the porn industry as head on as porn piracy or the Weinstein/Lubben/AHCF assault on AIM’s testing regimen needs to be confronted. Above all, those who produce and consume porn absolutely must broaden their minds and their demographics to the point that they aren’t merely chasing after those who have the most bucks, but actively pursuing the ultimate objective of explicit erotic media: to get people off. Regardless of race, creed, sexual orientation, or personal preference. In the end, the color of the penis (or the vagina) shouldn’t matter as much as the quality of the experience. Supporting those artists who wish to produce more humane, consensual, and more egalitarian porn that doesn’t reduce Black people to Stephin Fechit or Pimp Daddy or Black Gangsta roles would be a nice start…you think?? Notice that I’m not calling for exclusively “politically correct” porn that only lives up to my particular values, with everything else being thrown to the depths of Hell; porn, like every other artistic medium, should be a reflection of the feelings and desires of their creators. and those desires are not or should not be reduced to political sloagans or utopias. But, it wouldn’t be such a bad idea if the people who actually did the sexual labor actually had some bit of respect for each other and humankind in general, and didn’t just create crappy shit just because it gets them the most bank, wouldn’t it?? Either way, props to Justin Long for daring to touch that live wire, and surviving. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Apr 23 2014 : 10:36PM ^ If you're going to copy text verbatim from someone else, it's kind of a bitch move to not give them credit. Also, can we please, please keep this thread on track. [Link]